Pazmany PL-4

[N2056]

Last week I posted about the latest little project I decided to start messing with. I like to have something I can switch over to when I hit a point on the P-61 where I need to take a break. After a week it looks like this...

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[PutPut]

Nice! Looks like a real Put-Put to me! :icon29: :icon29:

Best, Paul

[Piglet]

Taiwan Air Force used PL-1's for basic training.

[N2056]

I thought they had PL-2's?

Nope, you were right! :salute:

[Naki]

Long wingspan..was there a motor gliding variant?

[N2056]

No, at least not as far as I know. The original design used a VW engine, and had a stall speed of 46 kts with a cruise around 100 kts, and a max of 120 kts.

[lazarus]

The PZL-1 is a great lookig little bird, a baby SF260. A mate had one a few years back, painted up in ROCAF marks. Go to airshows with it and get spotted in the warbird park next to all the big iron. Fun little airplane to flog about in.

Check IGA Catalogue (https://www.ladysavings.com/publix-weekly-ad/?iga/) and ALDI Catalogue (https://www.ladysavings.com/publix-weekly-ad/?aldi/).

[MHAircraft]

Did anybody mention PL2?

I started this FS9 model back in 2005. Ran out of steam and it's been sitting in limbo since then. I know. Shame on me. :gameoff:

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[N2056]

Cool! :applause:

Any chance you will get back into it?

[N2056]

This week I did a lot of re-sizing things after I imported Mr. Robo Pilot (the Thorp guy) and found out he didn't fit too well :icon_lol:. I also finished the tail group, added the tail wheel, and now that I'm pretty sure the fuselage & tail group are final I have started mapping. :jump:

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[falcon409]

I know that once you have a chance to actually look this plane over it looks nothing like it, but my first thought was the Cri-Cri, lol. I have a lot of reference material on it and have started to try it many times as my first GMax project, but I'm still having trouble with the beginning GMax tutorials, lol. Maybe someday. In the meantime though, this one is looking great Robert, another fun ride, especially with your eye for detail. Keep up the great work.:applause:

[N2056]

Thanks for the comment. I've continued to work on the model and mapping keeping in mind all of the things I learned while fixing the mapping on the Thorp after getting humbled by OleBoy's paints from h*ll. :icon_lol:
Here's a somewhat finished paint. It's totally fictional, and was meant to try and "force" any mapping issues.

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[OleBoy]

I've continued to work on the model and mapping keeping in mind all of the things I learned while fixing the mapping on the Thorp after getting humbled by OleBoy's paints from h*ll. :icon_lol:

:wiggle: Looking good!

[falcon409]

Here's a somewhat finished paint. It's totally fictional, and was meant to try and "force" any mapping issues.
Yep, that would definitely bring out any issues, lol. Lookin' good though.:applause:

[N2056]

Here's this week's pic. I put on a prop and started working on the rivets and panel lines that will be used for the bump map on the fuselage...

[N2056]

This week I managed to find some old articles from assorted magazines from back in the early '70s. This pic has been a big help in laying out the bump mapping! That's Pazmany in the pic, and the tail that Dad built for him.

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[falcon409]

What a great shot Robert. The covering looks like a thin spruce veneer, am I right or is it all fabric covered?:salute:

[N2056]

It's all sheet-metal. The green is the primer, white parts are fiberglass.

[falcon409]

It's all sheet-metal. The green is the primer, white parts are fiberglass.
Thanks, having done a lot of veneer work on a Staggerwing, it looked a lot like what the pic shows.:salute:

[OleBoy]

Robert, the more I see your progress on this one, the more I like the looks of it. After seeing and experiencing your progress of the Thorp to final release, I was, and still impressed with it every time I take it out of the hanger.

I'm looking forward to seeing the end results :icon29:

[warchild]

heh, Robert is hands down, simply the best.

[Roger]

Another great aircraft for PNW:applause:

[N2056]

While I appreciate the comments I must point out that there are a lot of folks out there doing this that are much better at the craft than I am. Guys like Piglet, Lionheart, N4gix, Gibbage, Chuck Jodry, krazycolin, and many others that have made their mark high enough to give me inspiration to keep getting better. :icon29:

[OleBoy]

Bucking for head swelling. While the other modelers are very good, stop being modest. I'll leave it at that ;)

[N2056]

Hopefully this pic works. I have been working on the normal maps for the fuselage. The assorted individual sheet metal skins have thickness to them and overlap as they would in real life.

[falcon409]

That's some really nice detail Robert. Lookin great!!

[Anneke]

I would love to see it combined with the bump maps for the rivet's

[N2056]

It actually has rivets now, but they don't show up in the pic. After I work on it some more tonight I'll try and post a better one.

[Quicksand]

Looking really nice, Robert.

[falcon409]

It actually has rivets now, but they don't show up in the pic. After I work on it some more tonight I'll try and post a better one.
Actually they do Robert. If you enlarge the posted image you can see them. Granted you have to look close, but follow the seams across the top of the fuselage and down the sides and you'll see them, that's why I commented on the nice detail work. It's gonna be a beauty!

[warchild]

I'm hoping he'll let me get my hands on the flight model :) :) :) .. this would be a very fun little plane to fly and build :)
Pam

[ryanbatc]

Nice modeling!

[N2056]

Here's a new batch of pics. The external textures are getting close now. Diffuse, Specular, and Normal maps are now present :)

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[Anneke]

Very nice!! Love the rivet's. Not too subtle?
Did I understand that Pam is doing the dynamics?

[falcon409]

Really nice job Robert. She's comin' along great.

[warchild]

yup. I'm doing the dynamics :) .. It'll be a challenging plane because little planes are effected by various forces much differently than larger planes do, and I'd like to explore that and learn about them..

[N2056]

Here's the first go at a panel. The ASI and VSI will get new faces to better reflect the performance of this plane. I'm also thinking the fuel level should go under the clock, and move the tach up some. It's a pretty busy panel...part of the "what if" fun! :salute:

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[N2056]

Panel work continues...

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[SADT]

Hi N2056,

This looks great Btw! :-D I was wondering though if you were planning on making all the radios in 3-D? The obsessive compulsive genes inside of me want continuity.. :running: It does look good as is now, and it is nice to see an aircraft in sim, which is not well known about. Keep up the great work! :-)

Craig :-)

[N2056]

That stack is the default MS stuff. I used them to work on the panel layout. I've put the 3d knobs in the same as MS did in their vc setups, but ultimately I think I will end up making my own units in full 3d using these as a guide.
Thanks for the kind words! :salute:

[N2056]

Here's the radio in 3d. I still need to bring it to life. The transponder is my good old Collins unit that might look familiar :icon_lol:

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[N2056]

The avionics are pretty close to being done. I flew around for over an hour today testing...it should be fun! :mixedsmi:

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[falcon409]

Very nice Robert. Really looking good. Will the lower right section be for switches or Circuit Breakers or something similar?

[N2056]

That's the plan. :salute:

[LordAkshay798]

The avionics are pretty close to being done. I flew around for over an hour today testing...it should be fun! :mixedsmi:

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That's some really nice work. nice textures on the prop as well! :salute:

[N2056]

This week I got the electrical bits in, and I installed a VSI with a more realistic scale.

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[falcon409]

Very nice Robert, it's really comin' along nicely.

[N2056]

Here's the panel lighting so far...and the dimmer knob works. :mixedsmi:

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[falcon409]

Very impressive lighting Robert.:applause:

[N2056]

Many Thanks. Your support is always appreciated! :salute:

[N2056]

One more panel set. After some changes to the electrical layout and lighting I think this is the final version. I'm starting to work on the rest of the interior stuff now.

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[Anneke]

Good looking stuff!!

[falcon409]

The Layout looks great Robert and that night lighting is just very cool. Nice job!:applause:

[N2056]

I got the canopy animation done...

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[N2056]

Engine controls and side panel trim...

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[Killbilly]

That's some nice-looking work (both inside and out). I still enjoy "Pete" and the Thorp often. This one looks like a winner as well.

[falcon409]

Thanks for the continuing updates Robert. Always good to see something new pop up in here. Looking great.:applause:

[BrittMac]

Cannot wait for this one to be released. There may be something very similar to this nearby, and I can't wait to see it.

[N2056]

After spending a few days getting my computer working again...Here's the pedals. I am still pondering the floor area treatment though :)

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[N2056]

I made a new stick grip and got the boot in and skinned.

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[Bomber_12th]

I'm really enjoying watching this aircraft taking shape! You do superb work, Robert!

[falcon409]

I made a new stick grip and got the boot in and skinned.
That shows how "slim" we'll need to be to crawl in there and enjoy the ride, lol. Time to knock off the Cokes for awhile, lol. Looking great Robert!:salute:

[OleBoy]

Latest interior update. Looks nice Rob!

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[ryanbatc]

Oooh another fun little weird plane yay! Never even heard of this thing... sweet!

[warchild]

Paul and i are doing our best to make it fly realistically. Your right, its a very fun lil plane.. Awesomely so. But we have a ways to go before were finished with it..
Paul had a computer crash, and I snapped my lower back again so we've both been out of it for a whil;e. Hes pretty much up and running and I'm at least able mto sit up for a few hours, so we're back and almost full steam on this and other planes as well..

[N2056]

Work has shifted to the external lighting. I spent a lot of time trying to come up with how to add the landing lights...I kind of like this set up.

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[N2056]

It's been awhile since I posted...but I have got a lot of things done. I spent a lot of time working on interior materials and learning how to use a detail map. I added the pitch trim knob, canopy latch, and dropped in my robo-pilot. I'm working on making him a bit less android looking :icon_lol:

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[falcon409]

That's gonna be such a cool aircraft to cruise around in Robert. . .very nice!:applause:

[Cag40Navy]

Awesome work Rob!

[N2056]

He's got his safety harness on. That tends to be the last major thing I model on a project. I still have some minor bits to blast out, but it's really close to coming out of the oven now ... :jump:


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[Jim Goldman]

Great looking project, congradulations. Look forward to repainting it :)

Happy New Year

Jim

[falcon409]

I'll echo what Jim just said, congratulations on another beautiful aircraft completed (almost). Should be a lot of fun to fly!:applause:

[Roger]

Excellent:applause::ernae:

[OleBoy]

As always, looking real nice Rob. The safety belts add a lot to the immersion. Almost another notch in the modelers belt.

[N2056]

A few more bits crossed off the list. All of the rigging for the rudder/tailwheel, screws on the spinner, and seeing the engine through the cooling inlets. On that shot I am really happy about how the prop turned out. :jump:

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[OleBoy]

It's looking real good. I like the outlining around the stripes. It really sets it off nicely.

[N2056]

Lots of little bits are getting completed. I might have had it out tonight if not for having to work overtime all day yesterday...
Oh, and I decided to include the paint scheme the first one had.

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[falcon409]

Lots of little bits are getting completed. I might have had it out tonight if not for having to work overtime all day yesterday...
Oh, and I decided to include the paint scheme the first one had.

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Outstanding Robert!!:salute:

[Killbilly]

Looks great! I'm looking forward to taking that little toy out for a spin. I'm still very much enjoying the Thorp, by the way. Thanks for your generosity.

[BrittMac]

Man oh man I love these little planes. For the longest time in FSX I have flown fast fighters and such, but the closer I have come to starting my quest for my PPL, I have found I love flying these types in FSX. I loved the Thorp as well, but am looking forward to the PL-4!

I still need to go by the Museum and snap some new pics of what I think is a PL-4.
Thanks for your continuing efforts!
Brandon