Golden Age Simulations Pitcairn native FsX under way...

[Roger]

Those GAS guys have decided to update to FsX native their Pitcairn auto-gyro and tonight I got a beta to play with:engel016:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/fsxpit-1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/fsxpit-2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/fsxpit-3.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/fsxpit-4.jpg

[Thoe6969]

Darn looks good,have not flown that one since FS9.

[Spad54]

We thought it was time for a face lift and move the model to FSX. We're going to add the Kinner powered PA-18 to the package as well.



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[Warrant]

It would be great to greet this little bird into my hangar in FSX! :running::applause:

[Bomber_12th]

We thought it was time for a face lift and move the model to FSX. We're going to add the Kinner powered PA-18 to the package as well.

Excellent news all around! It was actually that restored PA-18 which got me interested in buying the orginal product, despite the fact that it wasn't included, so it is great to hear that not only will the product be updated, but that the PA-18 will be included besides!

(In these videos, it is rather funny in that the pilot (who is one of the most experienced in flying just about everything before 1930), says it is an easy aircraft to fly, where as the guy who was in charge of restoring it (who has not flown it), says it is an extremely difficult aircraft to fly) : )

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[Sundog]

This is awesome! I love me some good Autogyro.

Now we just need someone to step up and make a Carter Copter, the other end of the scale, so to speak.

I'll definitely be looking forward to this update. Thanks guys.

[Killbilly]

Now we just need someone to step up and make a Carter Copter

Yeah, baby. I'm looking forward to this Pitcairn; but I would also kill for a Carter Copter in high-quality FSX-native format.
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[pilottj]

That looks awesome Paul :jump:

[crashaz]

Nice! Have not flown this since it was a required racer in the RTW and I flew it out of Rio into the mountains @ night..... will be great to have a full cockpit view to look at LOL!:applause:

[IFlySWA]

Yeah, baby. I'm looking forward to this Pitcairn; but I would also kill for a Carter Copter in high-quality FSX-native format.
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That has Piglet written all over her. :icon_lol:

Brian

[TeiscoDelRay]

Detroit News

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/p1.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/p2.jpg

Lots of detail
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/p4-1.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/p3-1.jpg

[Spad54]

The first news "chopper" can you imagine looking up in the 1930's a seeing that. It was newsworthy in itself!

[heywooood]

Looking forward to its release absolutely

[rayhere48]

It is stated that this airplane is not met to work well with FSX acceleration. Does any one have it working with acceleration? I would love to get it if it will work with acceleration.

[Roger]

It is stated that this airplane is not met to work well with FSX acceleration. Does any one have it working with acceleration? I would love to get it if it will work with acceleration.

The version I am beta testing is FsX native and I am using Acceleration. I had the Fs9 version as a port-over but now that the true FsX version is coming I have deleted it from my FsX install.

[YoYo]

Hi, something strange with blades of rotor. They are transparent on this screenshots, its knowing bug of port model from FS9 to FSX so it will be nice to fix this too.

[Roger]

Hi, something strange with blades of rotor. They are transparent on this screenshots, its knowing bug of port model from FS9 to FSX so it will be nice to fix this too.

Hi,
I believe Paul has made them this way as he feels the effect is more realistic for the relatively slow rotation of the autogyro blades and there is no "prop behind the clouds" effect that signifies an Fs8/9 model.

[MarkH]

The new model is beautiful, especially those high-res paints! Here's a few snaps of Jaykae on patrol...

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[MarkH]

It is stated that this airplane is not met to work well with FSX acceleration. Does any one have it working with acceleration? I would love to get it if it will work with acceleration.

The FS9 version works just fine in Acceleration with a bit of tweaking. See thread here (http://mainescenery.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gas&action=display&thread=10989)for details. You can get the modified prop textures with my PCA-2 paint at OZx (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/1566-pitcairn-pca-2-toniczip/). But like Roger says, the new one is FSX native and the model is a big improvement on the FS9 one (reflective glass, bump-mapping, hi-res textures, etc.)

[Spad54]

Hi,
I believe Paul has made them this way as he feels the effect is more realistic for the relatively slow rotation of the autogyro blades and there is no "prop behind the clouds" effect that signifies an Fs8/9 model.

That's precisely the effect I'm trying to get. The rotor speeds on the PCA-2 are very slow. Literature search indicated that the fastest was about 200 rpm (when Johnny Miller looped the PCA-2). Normally it was about 120 rpm.

[TeiscoDelRay]

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/p9b.jpg

[heywooood]

That's precisely the effect I'm trying to get. The rotor speeds on the PCA-2 are very slow. Literature search indicated that the fastest was about 200 rpm (when Johnny Miller looped the PCA-2). Normally it was about 120 rpm.

it looks right to me...

on another note...any chance you guys could let us in on any other Golden Age ideas you might be kicking around...?

maybe a couple of possibilities like oh I dunno...these?

[Bomber_12th]

These would be my own choices, and right up Golden Age Simulation's alley too...of course after the Pitcairn's are finished. ; )

[Spad54]

Our next project was to be a WACO cabin plane probably the SRE, but the Autogiro upgrade took
precedence because I had promised a fan that we would do it and a promise is a promise. It will like be next after we've completed the PA-18 and released the new package. Then in the queue in the
Boeing 247. It takes a good 4 to 6 months to build a model so looks like with all the aircraft that have been identified is projects we"ll have plenty to do. That's a good thing.

[Bomber_12th]

The Waco SRE is a fine, fine choice, as is the 247! I'm always looking forward to the next Golden Age Simulations release (though I still need to catch up on the most recent releases). : )

Thanks again for everyone who has posted screenshots/information thus far, about this up-coming Pitcairn product!

[TeiscoDelRay]

From one of my favorite movies, the Pitcairn from the Rocketeer.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/r2-1.jpg

[Roger]

From one of my favorite movies, the Pitcairn from the Rocketeer.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/r2-1.jpg


Love the paint:applause:

[P38man]

Guess its way too soon for VC shots?

How does the FS9 fly? - does it feel "unusual"?

From one of the videos the stick has zero effect when slow - is that in the model?

[Spad54]

Guess its way too soon for VC shots?

How does the FS9 fly? - does it feel "unusual"?

From one of the videos the stick has zero effect when slow - is that in the model?

The FS9 version has been out since 2007. The FSX version uses the same flight dynamics with a few tweaks. We've modified the aileron effectiveness to make a bit more sporty in cross winds but aileron effectiveness is effected at all speed ranges equally when making changes, so its a compromise. I guess if we were as smart as the A2A guys we could whip up some xml voodoo to make that happen. The model does simulate autorotation and does not stall. The response from the beta testers has been favorable. Here a few shots of the VC cockpit and remodeled rotor blades to better simulate motion effect. The map case opens with a left mouse click to reveal the simcons for radio, map, atc, gps, and clock

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[MarkH]

VC shots?

Damn, beaten to it! Here a few pilot's eye-view shots. Second shot is the FS9 Miss Champion, for comparison.

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[Sundog]

Just a bump, because I'm really looking forward to this. :)

[greybeardgil]

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Just a bump, because I'm really looking forward to this. :)

[TeiscoDelRay]

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/2-1.jpg

[TeiscoDelRay]

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/1-3.jpg

[TeiscoDelRay]

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/p18details.jpg

[P38man]

Hey I read a review of the FS9 model - sounds like you did a great job with the fs9's flight model eg not stalling and being stable, low speed etc - well done.

The paint jobs are amazing - I cannot wait for this model. :jump:

I also read from a 1931 magazine some great facts:
- does not stall.
- motor is used to start the blades spinning but then disconnected from the blades in the air
- the blades are therefore more like wings


link to 1931 magazine (got from wikipedia):
http://books.google.com/books?id=9ycDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA28&dq=Popular+Science+motor+gun+boat&hl=en&ei=HTLuTPyyFsOOnwe36dH2Cg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Popular%20Science%20motor%20gun%20boat&f=true

[Bomber_12th]

And the blades are built just like 1920's/30's era wings - made of wooden ribs and covered in fabric, and it is pretty amazing when you see just how much wood and fabric structure there is in each blade.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/osh209-14-0520015.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/osh209-14-0520011.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/osh209-14-0520033.jpg

[MarkH]

Something else to whet the appetite...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bo-eb1Gm1U&hd=1

[Roger]

Super video Mark!:applause:

[Naismith]

Super video Mark!:applause:
Seconded. I look forward to all Mark's videos. All informative and interesting whether a review or a historical document.

[P38man]

I also love Mark's videos.

I already had the Teach Yourself How To Fly he reviews - brilliant fun but great to hear his take on it.

Catalina review similarly awesome. Saved me from buying one plane as well.

My favourite reviewer hands down. So down to earth informative in a friendly engaging style. Thanks Mark !

Cannot wait for this plane !!

[MarkH]

I also love Mark's videos.
I already had the Teach Yourself How To Fly he reviews - brilliant fun but great to hear his take on it.

That's an interesting one to pick: the grandson and son of the author (Nigel Tangye) contacted me after seeing the video on YouTube. Funny how things work out!

[Spad54]

Wonderful video mark and thanks for helping us with the redesign of the PCA-2 and the new PA-18. I think its as close as we can get to modeling a true autogiro that FSX will allow. Here's a shot of the PA-18's cockpit. I'd like to have it out in the next week. We'll be doing the PT-22 Recruit and STA for FSX next.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/Spad54/pa18_cockpit.jpg

[Sundog]

That's great news, my pennies have been all saved up for this one. :)