An other C-47 in the paintshop

[huub vink]

In 1958 Martin Schröder founded his airline Martin's Air Charter (MAC), which is currently known under the name Martinair. Although he started with one de Havilland Dove these were several C-47s among the first aircraft of his fleet.

Martin Schröder lives in the same village as I do, therefore I thought I should do a MAC repaint. It is very early "work-in-progress".

As I'm currently refurbishing my house it, will take some time before the paint is dry!

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/WIP_MAP_a1.jpg

[jeansy]

nice

i'll take one please

[jankees]

Looking good so far!

[Ferry_vO]

Another candidate for a 'real vs. fsx' screenshot! :d

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Vliegtuigen/MAC_DAK.jpg

[huub vink]

Like I did with the KLM one, I will take an "old" one instead of the DDA version. However I should have chosen to paint this one, much easier..... :icon_lol:
The nose has given e head-aches and I'm still not fully satisfied.....

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Old_PH-DAB_a.jpg

[huub vink]

The main textures are finished, now I just need to adjust the alphas and made a spec map. The PH-MAG (US reg. 42-92648) served with Martin's Air Charter from 1965 until 1968 after which it became a movie star. It was sold to an aircraft maintenance company at Schiphol and used in the Dutch movie "Dakota". Where it was flown in the Caribbean by Kees Brusse. This aircraft was demolished in 1991 at Malta.

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/WIP_MAP_a3.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/WIP_MAP_a4.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/WIP_MAP_a5.jpg

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[robcap]

That's coming along nicely, Huub.

[pilottj]

That is a beautiful paint scheme. It reminds me of the MAAM DDA C-47 for FS2000 years back...that plane was quite advanced for FS2K standards, I remember it had a pretty realistic radial engine startup sequence.

[huub vink]

It is finished.... I will try to upload tomorrow. Hardly any weathering/dirt as all the picture I could find from the Martinair DC3/C47 aircraft showed very clean aeroplanes!

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/WIP_MAP_a7.jpg

[huub vink]

The repaint has been uploaded to the usual places. Next to the announced PH-MAG the set also contains a texture set for "Doornroosje" the C-47 PH-DDZ from the Dutch Dakota association which currently flies in historic Martinair colours.

Enjoy,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/PHDDZ_a.jpg

[mjahn]

Very nice Huub ... but doesn't the original have the tail stripes the other way round???

[huub vink]

Very nice Huub ... but doesn't the original have the tail stripes the other way round???

Thanks Manfred, very well noticed, but there is something odd here and I can't find out where it goes wrong. Both the original and my repaint have 10 wide blue/red stripes and 9 narrow white stripes on the tail and it starts with red is on top. Halfway at the stiffener from the tail, the long stripe in my repaint is blue, while the original has a red stripe there.......

I noticed when I posted the pictures below in the Real vs FSX thread. However as long as I don't see them together it doesn't really disturb me.

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Doornroosje_real.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Doornroosje_sim2.jpg

[SADT]

Huub, I seriously wonder how this could occur? Perhaps an eye illusion with those parallel lines makes you miss-see? Or perhaps they are not exactly the right width?

Cheers,
Craig :-)

[warchild]

the tail on the real plane is taller and broader maybe??

[Mathias]

Looks as if Huub's stripes are going too far down.:mixedsmi:

[mjahn]

Counting from the tail fillet up you have got nine stripes on the original vs. eight on the model.

[OleBoy]

Just observations.

The blue stripes are narrower than the red. Myself, I would start the layout of the stripes coming off of the aft fuse, then lay the rest out in proportion. I notice that the RW plane (stripes) have a bit more of an angle going to the rear of the tail than Huubs rendition. A thought. It may help to use the RW tail profile as a layout layer (template)

Nice work Huub. I always enjoy your repaints whenever I can. :)

[huub vink]

Thanks for all your observations, but I think I found the cause! Mathias was right.

When you look at the picture posted by Ferry copied below you see that the lowest part of the rudder is white. I started at the bottom from the rudder which is around one stripe wide. I think this explains the difference.

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Manfred both the real thing and my repaint have 5 red stripes and 5 blue stripes. Due to the angle of the picture and the screenshot you just do not see them all.

Oleboy, the red and blue stripes are exactly the same height (42 pixels).

As it is easy to fix I will make a correction (late) this evening when I have mu chill hour. Now I need to plaster a few walls first!

Cheers,
Huub

[mjahn]

Count from the top down to the long stripe that includes the tail fillet (not the ones below). Stop when you reach 8 (mdl) and 9 (original). Same location, hence your stripes are something like 1/8 too broad.

[huub vink]

I think this is the best I can get it.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Doornroosje_real.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Doornroosje_sim_adj1.jpg

[Ferry_vO]

Looks pretty close to me Huub! :applause:

Maybe this could help with any further improvement (If deemed necessary?):

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Vliegtuigen/MAC_DAK2.jpg

[flaviossa]

If you´re looking for perfection huub, there´s a little black rectangle just before the "M" of "Martin´s" that is not in the repaint "yet" :engel016:

[huub vink]

:icon_lol: Well my final attempt....... how difficult can a striped tail be:isadizzy: ? Thanks for the picture Ferry, it did help indeed.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Doornroosje_sim_adj2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Doornroosje_real.jpg

Now I only have to convince Manfred that he should make a model with the observation dome removed and an extra window added :icon_lol:

I will update PH-MAG (not before tomorrow) as well and re-upload for those who want to have this version.

Cheers,
Huub

[rayhere48]

What C-47 is that? It must be payware. Hope this is not a stupid question.

[Ferry_vO]

It's the freeware C-47 by Manfred Jahn; you can find it at Flightsim.com.

[mjahn]

That's very good Huub. I notice I have to constantly remind myself which is real and which the copy.

[huub vink]

What C-47 is that? It must be payware. Hope this is not a stupid question.

There are no stupid questions. This C-47 is a must! And there are many very interesting repaints available for it. It makes use of the default DC-3 VC, but the external model is perfect.

And now this one is finished I will start another repaint from a Dutch C-47 from history.

Cheers,
Huub

[huub vink]

Some very early "work in progress" pictures, from what I think is one of the most sophisticated liveries ever used by a Dutch airline.

I think it look a bit like a luxurious train wagon.

Do you know the airline? It does not longer exist as it was sold to a Canadian company in 2005.

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/New_C47_SA_a.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/New_C47_SA_b.jpg

[scotsman]

Schreiner Airways, I suppose
(PH-DAC?)
Mike

[Ferry_vO]

Yep, PH-DAC or PH-SAA; never seen those before... ( :redface:)

Nice work Huub!

[huub vink]

Very good Scotsman! I had expected a Dutchman to provide the correct answer, but had not expected an answer from a Scotsman living in Germany.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/New_C47_SA_d.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/New_C47_SA_c.jpg

Ferry I think the PH-SAA was a DH-104 Dove, see below;

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/5/5/3/1252355.jpg

Can anybody here confirm that the "S" in the winged logo on the fuselage should be "gold"?

Cheers,
Huub

[kilo delta]

Can anybody here confirm that the "S" in the winged logo on the fuselage should be "gold"?

Cheers,
Huub

Looks red to me?..

http://www.abpic.co.uk/images/images/1232378M.jpg

[Ferry_vO]

Ferry I think the PH-SAA was a DH-104 Dove, see below;


You are correct of course! I found the DC-3 here: http://www.janvet.nl/schreiner_historie.htm

But in the rush before going to work I failed to notice the info below the shot was about the Dove in the foreground. Nice and interesting collection of aircraft btw!

[scotsman]

Huub,

sometimes only the livery makes the difference - ik ben een Duitser met een Schots hart :kilroy:

Mike

[huub vink]

Looks red to me?..

The logo is a well kept secret. All photographs are made from quite a distance and don't show any detail. I finally found the logo on a picture from a schreiner sugar bag, however not in full colour.

I have tried "gold" and red. Red simply looks better. When you say its red, I will just go for red :icon_lol:.

Mike, you sound like a real European, a German with a Scottish heart, who writes Dutch.

Cheers,
Huub

[scotsman]

That's the reason I feel comfortable here in the Outhouse :icon_lol:

This very nice livery will be my first Dutch DC3 to fly the NL2000 scenery.

Mike

[huub vink]

Well it is nearly finished. It has been on my "to do" list for quite a while.

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/New_C47_SA_f.jpg

[huub vink]

Does anybody know where I can find the part which is texturing these? (And there is one at the other side as well....)

Thanks,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Q_schneider_a.jpg

[huub vink]

Found it! It was even labelled "outlets" :banghead:

[huub vink]

The "Schneider Airways" repaint has been uploaded to the usual places. The Martinair repaint here in the library at the Outhouse has been updated.

Enjoy.
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/New_C47_SA_h.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/New_C47_SA_i.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/New_C47_SA_j.jpg

[huub vink]

While the real paint in my house is drying I started a new repaint. It's an other vintage airliner which was requested by somebody. This time it isn't a Dutch one.

I assume you recognise the airline and nationality.... Perhaps the fact the aircraft doesn't have any de-icers is a clue.

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/request_T_c.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/request_T_b.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/request_T_a.jpg

[huub vink]

And the paint is nearly dry.....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/request_T_aa.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/request_T_ac.jpg