F-15E Paints

[MenendezDiego]

Thought I'd share some shots I took today:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6208/6084085936_d8a4494765_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6187/6084085114_a0f3102836_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/6084085528_2e686f0832_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6070/6084084726_9f4009260d_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6073/6084084284_c1c319b9fb_b.jpg

She looks so damn sexy!

If you guys have any photo requests, just ask!

Regards, Diego

[peter12213]

Can we have a Mad Hatters one please, with the actual symbol on too? Thats how I rememeber these!:salute: Awesome paint jobs though, but the panel lines are far too much on the 48FW version, it doesn't rain oil in England you know! lol!

[MenendezDiego]

I can make the request for the Mad Hatters paint, but no promises. Our painter is working on some other liveries at the moment.

As for the LN bird, that's not oil, it's Marmite! ;)

Best regards, Diego

[peter12213]

Hahaha "well you either love it or hate it" anyway when are we going flying again?

Maybe when we've both got this we can go head to head in a Tornado GR4 v F15E formation/RACE? lol

[robert_basil]

The F-15I 267 doesn't have the bird on the vert. You probably might want to fix that or assign another number.

[MenendezDiego]

Roger that, we'll change it to 234

[MenendezDiego]

Not the best video :( but hey, I decided to film with Fraps at half quality (stupid me), and I had to rush the shot/filming since I have the freeware version (30 seconds per video).

Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC0cPU6u7zE

[MenendezDiego]

Sorry Robery, but she's staying as 267:

http://milviz.com/forum/download/file.php?id=630

Diego

[Skyhawk18]

The F-15I 267 doesn't have the bird on the vert. You probably might want to fix that or assign another number.

Well it has (or at least had). So I will keep the bird :icon_lol:
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk004_F-15E/part3/images_Mark_Curley/09_Ra%27am5_Pt_aft_qtr.JPG

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk004_F-15E/part3/images_Mark_Curley/07_Ra%27am8_Port_vert_stab.JPG

[robert_basil]

Yeah yours is 2001 and the one I had was 2008. Never mind, just trying to help you out. Yeah now they have a bigger bird stencil on the vert for higher visibility.

Have fun then.

[Skyhawk18]

Yeah yours is 2001 and the one I had was 2008. Never mind, just trying to help you out. Yeah now they have a bigger bird stencil on the vert for higher visibility.

Have fun then.

:icon_lol:...

When painting an aircraft, I collect as many photos as I can get of all part of it. I noticed that the IAF 267 appeared with different paint at the vert. stab. In such cases I will often use the «most interesting» combination for the livery. So, even if the eagle describes an older paint, I will prefer to choose this one. :salute:

[ZsoltB]

What model is it?

[Skyhawk18]

What model is it?

This is the Milviz F-15E (under development) :icon_lol:

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[ZsoltB]

Ahhh...Yes!

When can I buy?

[kcgb]

(under development)


In the post Skyhawk18 made

[Skyhawk18]

In the post Skyhawk18 made

This is a very detailed model with a lot of features. The Milviz Team is working very hard to get this bird as real as possible within the limitations of FSX. No release date yet, but the team definitely makes progress.

[khaast]

Looks awsome. I would have to say, though, that the panel dirt is too much, especially on the Lakenheath aircraft.

[krazycolin]

We all know this. Everyone says it. BUT, I have pics of F-15E's on active duty that are even dirtier. Just do some checking on the net. You will find them...

[khaast]

We all know this. Everyone says it. BUT, I have pics of F-15E's on active duty that are even dirtier. Just do some checking on the net. You will find them...

Roger. No need to comment on the grey tone used on same aircraft either I guess.

[Skyhawk_310R]

I have seen them just that dirty. There are many many variations in paint. Aircraft get repainted out of depot refurb and they look beautiful. They go on a deployment and stand outside in the sand for about three to six months and they get rather grimy.

Also, paint specs change over the years, so a given tail number will have a particular shade one year and then come out of depot with another shade.

As Gunnar has said, every livery he paints get a lot of research before he does his work.

[MenendezDiego]

Coming back Winchester...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6205/6086633745_a04b4a338e_b.jpg

[Skyhawk18]

Nice shot Diego! :applause:


Can we have a Mad Hatters one please, with the actual symbol on too? Thats how I rememeber these!:salute: Awesome paint jobs though, but the panel lines are far too much on the 48FW version, it doesn't rain oil in England you know! lol!

Yes, I will paint a «Mad Hatters» as long as I can get proper photos of one.
I can not promise that this one will be finished within release, but I will proceed with the F-15 painting after release. :icon_lol:

[krazycolin]

Khaast, Please check out this:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?55939-MILVIZ-Aviator-Series-F-15E-Eagle-Screenies&highlight=milviz

Feel free to compare that texture to the FS codes found on the net....

[khaast]

Khaast, Please check out this:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?55939-MILVIZ-Aviator-Series-F-15E-Eagle-Screenies&highlight=milviz

Feel free to compare that texture to the FS codes found on the net....

I rest my case, colour is colour anyway. Too many variables to take into consideration. Just read an article on 'gunship quality' polyurethane delivered to the USAF, among them, grey 36118. It appears that the hue of this colour vary greatly with lighting conditions. Colours with a specular gloss factor of less than 5 would reflect with a different hue depending on the angle of the light beam/source. Standard angles are 20, 60 and 85°.

[Skyhawk_310R]

Part of our work is to create airbases and AI aircraft for the package.

Here are two screenshots showing one of the airbases, Hatzerim AFB, Israel, that we created, plus another showing the IAF livery touching down.

http://www.kenstallings.com/images/MilViz/Hatzerim5.png

http://www.kenstallings.com/images/MilViz/Hatzerim7.png

Cheers,

Ken

[strykerpsg]

Oh man! This release just gets better and better! You guys have raised the bar of standards for releases. Working ordinance, airbases/AI, working avionics and paints. You are truly on par and beginning to accelerate beyond VRS in my opinion, and I really love VRS for their attention to detail. This will be a must buy for me once released. Since my deployment date may now be DEC, may actually get to see and enjoy the released product.

Matt

[peter12213]

Heres some shots I'm tring to find better ones.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43697832@N06/5273955092/

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As hideous as the picture is you can see where the badge is on the port CFT. Btw all crew survived and are now back flying or so it says.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Stories1/001-100/023_F-15 crash/05.jpg

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[fox18delta]

Heres some shots I'm tring to find better ones.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43697832@N06/5273955092/

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As hideous as the picture is you can see where the badge is on the port CFT. Btw all crew survived and are now back flying or so it says.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Stories1/001-100/023_F-15 crash/05.jpg (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Stories1/001-100/023_F-15%20crash/05.jpg)

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Airborne Again
F-15E crash survivor lives
to fly another day
http://www.aetc.randolph.af.mil/se2/torch/back/2002/0203/images/CptJones.jpgCapt. Don Jones is an Air Force weapons systems operator flying and training troops at a Naval air station in Pensacola, Fla. But it’s a miracle he’s still in the military at all. A year and a half ago, the F-15E fighter he was flying in at RAF Lakenheath, England, snapped in half on the runway during landing. The crash nearly tore off his arm and disintegrated his Air Force flying career.

Ten months after the Sept. 12, 2000, accident, Jones, 29, beat the odds. An F-15E weapons systems operator with the 494th Fighter Squadron at Lakenheath at the time, Jones, accompanied by his commander, flew again July 13. Shortly thereafter, he was reassigned as an Air Education and Training Command asset to NAS Pensacola, where he’s a navigator school instructor for future strike fighter weapons systems operators. He teaches air-to-air intercepts in the T-39.

Jones’ first flight back from injury was pretty tame for someone with more than 120 hours in combat. And this time the landing was typical ... unlike Jones’ last landing.

On the day of the mishap, Jones and Capt. Rex Ayers, a pilot with the 492nd Fighter Squadron, were at 29,000 feet and 310 knots over the Atlantic in an F-15E. The airmen were on day two of their return from a Green Flag training exercise at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev. The 6.5-hour mission started at Langley AFB, Va., and was nearing completion.

Ten minutes from RAF Lakenheath, Ayers piloted the Strike Eagle into a standard approach pattern. The aircraft touched down normally at about 170 knots.

Then, suddenly, something went terribly wrong.

“We both heard a ‘bang,’ or ‘popping’ sound,” Jones said. “Rex thought we had blown our left tire. It’s not a common thing, but it has happened before. It usually just means a little more drag on that side to be countered with more rudder. So that’s what we did.”

They didn’t know it then, but the left main gear connecting link failed, which caused the left main wheel to turn 90 degrees from the aircraft flight path. Once the left main gear tire and strut failed, Ayers lost directional control, initiating a horrific series of events.

At 130 knots, the aircraft whipped sharply to the left and went off the runway. The jet dug into the ground, standing the airframe vertically on its nose. In a grotesque ballet, the Strike Eagle twisted to the right and broke in half immediately behind Jones.

The wreckage slammed into the earth.

Before the aircraft had stood on its nose, Jones reached for the ejection handles.

“When we went vertical, I backed off,” Jones said. “The ejection would have skipped me across the ground. I knew I just had to ride it out. I remember hearing metal breaking and dirt going into my eyes.”

The nose section, cockpit and canopy broke off the jet, and the cockpit rolled into the dirt. Jones was momentarily stunned. He lay on his side and wondered how that was possible.

A second later, instinct and training took over. He started to safe the ejection system and work on his straps. He also started to feel pain; he was certain he had broken his arm.

Ayers was at the same angle in the seat as Jones. He had a long cut on his head, cuts to both hands and his back, and a sore neck. The seat angle caused tension on the straps and made egress difficult.

It had been less than 15 seconds since the initial “bang” heard in the cockpit.

From the 48th Operations Group conference room, 30 seconds earlier, Lt. Col. Steven Depalmer, 494th FS commander, and others watched through a window as the jets flew past on final approach. Depalmer remembers everyone was pleased the airmen and the jets were home.

Then the phone rang.
http://www.aetc.randolph.af.mil/se2/torch/back/2002/0203/images/crash.jpg“The director of staff answered the phone,” Depalmer said. “He went pale and said, ‘Oh my God! Oh my God!’ He hung up the phone and told us the last aircraft crashed, and the aircrew hadn’t made it out.”

Everyone in the room scrambled to the runway. On the way, Depalmer looked up the names of the aircrew in the last jet. On the radio it was announced someone was alive.

The squadron commander didn’t take in the full magnitude of the crash site as he approached it; his focus was on the men.

“I looked over and saw the medics taking care of [Ayers],” Depalmer said. “He was moving, and he looked all right. I started looking for [Jones]. He was being placed on a stretcher and loaded into an ambulance.”

Jones had serious injuries to his left arm. His anti-exposure suit, harness and flight suit had been ripped in two locations, and he was losing blood.

“I knew we had to stop the bleeding to keep him alive,” Depalmer said.

In the ambulance, Depalmer applied self-aid and buddy care — placing his hands deep inside Jones open wounds in an attempt to stop or slow the bleeding. The arm was nearly severed in two locations — above the elbow and on the shoulder — slicing through the triceps and deltoid muscles, among others. His left shoulder also was broken.

Side-by-side in the hospital, a neck brace prevented Ayers from seeing what was happening with Jones. The sounds told him his “backseater” was in severe pain. Unaware of the cause of the accident, Ayers was frustrated and angry, unable to think of what had gone so wrong.

Ayers spent one night in the hospital and returned to flight status nearly three weeks after the accident.

After five weeks in the hospital and five surgeries, Jones returned home to California and underwent therapy at Travis AFB for three months.

“It was hard and very painful,” said Jones, who says he was offered a medical discharge but never considered it.

“My parents helped me get to and from rehab until I was able to do it myself,” he said.

After returning to Lakenheath, Jones monitored wing-wide electronic warfare upgrade training and did a variety of other projects. At the time, he was unable to bend his arm more than 90 degrees. Another surgery solved it. Through it all, he stayed focused on returning to full flight status.

In the base hospital, Maj. Damian Rispoli, 48th Medical Support Squadron, operated on Jones.

“His spirit and effort to heal himself and return to flight status is the real accomplishment,” Rispoli said. “No one will ever know the pain and effort and care he went through to heal his body. Many people would have given up — not pursued the extra surgeries that brought back his full range of motion. It’s a phenomenal accomplishment.”

By late April, Jones nearly had full use of his arm, and by late June he had received a medical waiver. The last step was to receive U.S. Air Forces in Europe approval for abbreviated upgrade status. He got it, and flew for the first time July 13.

Depalmer had high praise after flying with Jones.

“He didn’t miss a beat,” Depalmer said. “It’s obvious he has remained engaged in his training. We pulled more than eight Gs without a problem, and I have high confidence in him.”

Jones said, “I don’t think I can put into words what something like this does to you. It felt great to be back in the jet again.”

Both aviators credit training for their survival.

“The accident gave me an appreciation for how many things need to go right at one time for a safe flight,” said Ayers, now an instructor pilot at Seymour-Johnson AFB, N.C.

“The crash reminded me that what we do is potentially very dangerous,” Jones said. “I learned that life support training pays off, because my first thought after the crash was to immediately safe my seat [the first step of the ground egress procedure]. ... Anything can happen at anytime, so it's important to be prepared for any eventuality. ”

Sergeant Miller is with the 48th Fighter Wing Public Affairs Office at RAF Lakenheath, England. This story is courtesy of U.S. Air Forces in Europe News Service and updated by Torch.

[fox18delta]

Heres some shots I'm tring to find better ones.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43697832@N06/5273955092/

46992

As hideous as the picture is you can see where the badge is on the port CFT. Btw all crew survived and are now back flying or so it says.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Stories1/001-100/023_F-15 crash/05.jpg (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Stories1/001-100/023_F-15%20crash/05.jpg)

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48th Patches

http://www.f-15e.info/joomla/en/patches

[fox18delta]

48th Patches

http://www.f-15e.info/joomla/en/patches

also, great reference;

http://mjaviation.co.uk/Lakenheath.htm

[fox18delta]

F-15E's from Lakenheath

[skyhawka4m]

hmmmmm....not sure but the overall shine of the aircraft itself seems a bit too much. I just saw this on the F-15C also......a bit too much for my taste. Its too bad cause it looks like a great product otherwise.

[krazycolin]

I'm sorry you feel that way. There are, however, many MANY different F-15's that I have seen over the past near on 3 years of R and D on this plane, and I can tell you with no qualms that there are planes that are shinier and NONE that are matte entirely.

In the end, it's a matter of taste... and you can adjust the shine to your liking as we include the paint kit....

[Naruto-kun]

Oh man! This release just gets better and better! You guys have raised the bar of standards for releases. Working ordinance, airbases/AI, working avionics and paints. You are truly on par and beginning to accelerate beyond VRS in my opinion, and I really love VRS for their attention to detail. This will be a must buy for me once released. Since my deployment date may now be DEC, may actually get to see and enjoy the released product.

Matt

Thanks for the compliments :). As one of the coders on this baby i kinda drive the others a little crazy with my perfectionism but I cant stand the thought of anything less than what it should be.

[MenendezDiego]

hmmmmm....not sure but the overall shine of the aircraft itself seems a bit too much. I just saw this on the F-15C also......a bit too much for my taste. Its too bad cause it looks like a great product otherwise.

As Colin said, don't buy a plane simply for the repaints, there will always be more repaints available in the future. Buy the plane based on it's systems, flight model, 3D model, etc. :)

Regards, Diego

[fsafranek]

:icon_lol:...

When painting an aircraft, I collect as many photos as I can get of all part of it. I noticed that the IAF 267 appeared with different paint at the vert. stab. In such cases I will often use the «most interesting» combination for the livery. So, even if the eagle describes an older paint, I will prefer to choose this one. :salute:
Absolutely. And the result looks great.
:ernae:

[Skyhawk18]

hmmmmm....not sure but the overall shine of the aircraft itself seems a bit too much. I just saw this on the F-15C also......a bit too much for my taste. Its too bad cause it looks like a great product otherwise.

Please have a look at these then: :icon_lol:

http://wallpaperstock.net/f-15-front_wallpapers_12878_1920x1200_1.html

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5_rEthUGE0Q/SYregGUaOrI/AAAAAAAAAE4/ZZVevO6NXew/s320/f15.jpg

http://files.air-attack.com/MIL/f15/f15afghanistan_2_20081109.jpg

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/files/images/f15-strike-eagle-afghanistan.jpg

http://www.bythedrop.com/gallery/var/albums/Aircraft/Gunfighter2008/F-15E-Strike-Eagle-Taxis-Fighter-Airshow.jpeg?m=1306632903

The shine on the Milviz model only appears under certain light conditions. My post earlier in this thread shows 7 screenshots of the IAF livery. Only 2 of them appears with shine.
Studying pictures of real F-15's shows all kind of surfaces and color variations. :cool:

[Bone]

F-15E's from Lakenheath

Those real life photo's of the F-15E show a much dirtier paint than any of the current Milviz paints. Whew! They are dirty. I'm sure you could find some real life pics of shiny F-15E's also.

[krazycolin]

Stencils anyone? I put every single one of these on.. There are a LOT of them. I was going to put the panel numbers on as well but they were too small to read and just looked like more dirt.

[khaast]

Hype in the making :-)

[krazycolin]

Yup! And you have to admit, they are pretty nice... (as well as being correctly placed and spelled!)

[khaast]

Oh my oh my, things go deep here :-)

[DaveWG]

So not only do we have to read the manual, now we've got to read the aircraft as well :icon_lol:

Nice work :applause:

[krazycolin]

Not only read but follow the rules or... C & B

[robert_basil]

Hello,

Ok as from what I see here is that there is a few miss-placed warnings on the fuselage near the intakes there should be more (total of 5 not including door numbers). Also you are missing air probes, and your ammo-loading door is incorrect (you have a C not E version) and various other little issues. Other then that it looks good.

Thank you,
Rob

[FlameOut]

Ok as from what I see here ....

Who can read lettering that small?
I'm "4-eyed" and I have a magnifying glass here at my P.C.

[Stickshaker]

Who can read lettering that small?
I'm "4-eyed" and I have a magnifying glass here at my P.C.

Press Ctl and turn your mouse wheel for magnifying.

[krazycolin]

Hello,

Ok as from what I see here is that there is a few miss-placed warnings on the fuselage near the intakes there should be more (total of 5 not including door numbers). Also you are missing air probes, and your ammo-loading door is incorrect (you have a C not E version) and various other little issues. Other then that it looks good.

Thank you,
Rob

Sure. Please provide pics so we can see what you are talking about.

You're a real live crew chief, right? What unit and ship? We will, of course, fix any errors that can be shown as such.

Thanks

[Skyhawk_310R]

Hello,

Ok as from what I see here is that there is a few miss-placed warnings on the fuselage near the intakes there should be more (total of 5 not including door numbers). Also you are missing air probes, and your ammo-loading door is incorrect (you have a C not E version) and various other little issues. Other then that it looks good.

Thank you,
Rob

Rob,

Nice hearing from you. I note that you are a crew chief on the F-15E. What base? I have several friends of mine who have flown F-15E's at each of the various locations over the years. PM me if you do not wish to reply here. It might be that it's a small world and folks I know would know you. Would love to get any insights you may have of the jet!

[robert_basil]

Yes Staff Sargent, at (shady J) Seymour Johnson AFB NC and I was part of the 333rd Lancers, and airframe I crewed was F-15E-46-MC-88-1693. It was a while ago, after Desert Storm during Southern Watch, I was lucky to stay state side and then use my GI Bill to go to school.

To find photos you want, well I have to say right now, I am a bit busy but, I am sure you have resources to find them yourself. I can tell you that their is a lot of little things that are off, and when I look at the jet it just doesn't all the way look like the real thing.

I am just telling you this so you can make a proper F-15E so it is complete and accurate. I will how ever say that I have been called a "Rivet Counter" due to the fact that this hobby of mine is something I like to make sure it stays a simulation of the real thing and not a imaginary game. I personally will say to keep up the good work and hope to see a good looking F-15E.

Thank you,
Rob

[Skyhawk_310R]

Ever run across any of these guys:

Bill Mullins
Brian Killough
Lichen Pursley
Mitch Walrod
Paco Harris

I suspect John Stillion was well before your time.

Cheers,

Ken

[krazycolin]

I thank you for your input and will do some research and see what I can find.


Thanks for your help (such as it is).

[krazycolin]

As well, I think, if you are interested, I would like to invite you to the beta team. This way, we can at least see if we are close...

Interested?

[robert_basil]

To be honest,

Yes I would be interested, I have to look at my schedule, due to business obligations and my Wife. Let me think about this. How would I get in touch about this if I am able too?

Thank you,
Rob

[Stickshaker]

Are the stencils the same on all F-15E planes, and always in the same place, even if a plane is repainted? No doubt they should be, but can it account for differences between planes?<o:p></o:p>

[krazycolin]

colin at milviz dot com

[Skyhawk18]

Are the stencils the same on all F-15E planes, and always in the same place, even if a plane is repainted? No doubt they should be, but can it account for differences between planes?<o:p></o:p>

The (smaller) stencils will be almost identical on most F-15E liveries with a few exceptions (among them the IAF livery). The tint will vary a bit from livery to livery.

[Skyhawk_310R]

Especially for military aircraft, the placards are tightly regulated to specify what they say, how they look, and where they are placed. A lot of discussion goes on to determine all that.

General aviation aircraft placards are also standardized but not as tightly.

These placards can appear outside or in the cockpit as well as sometimes inside compartments especially strorage and baggage compartments.

Ken

[Naruto-kun]

Couple shots of a FS Recorder session

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz/MilvizF-15E91.jpg

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz/MilvizF-15E92.jpg

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz/MilvizF-15E94.jpg

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz/MilvizF-15E100.jpg

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz/MilvizF-15E101.jpg

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz/MilvizF-15E102.jpg

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/8Naruto-kun8/Milviz/MilvizF-15E103.jpg

[Skyhawk18]

A few more shots:
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[MenendezDiego]

Nice AK paint.

The radome should be a darker shade than the rest of the plane (that's how they're doing it now since the new radar upgrades), and are you going to include the Alaska stars on the inboard vertical stabilizer?

Many thanks, Diego

[Skyhawk18]

The Elmendorf Eagle is a livery that I am doing on request.
The description of the aircraft, do not mention the Alaska stars. I will have to ask if they were present on the current aircraft.

[MenendezDiego]

Many thanks :)

[Naruto-kun]

The AK paint that Gunner has there is for my friend at vUSAF Michael Taylor who crewed on the jet depicted 90-0253. So...he is the one giving the real details on the bird. Just have a few more things left though so waiting on his response

[Skyhawk18]

RAF Lakenheath F-15E «Madhatters» in progress.

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More screenshots of newer Milviz F-15 liveries here:
http://milviz.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3

[peter12213]

Awesome thanks for doing the Mad Hatters!!!