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tommieboy
August 19th, 2011, 18:55
TEXTURES ONLY.......

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fa_a12-a_avenger_ii_v1.0.zip

If the A12-A evolved into a FA-12A we might have seen a retro paint scheme like this......


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timghetta
August 19th, 2011, 19:49
jolly rogers vf-84

Gibbage
August 19th, 2011, 22:21
Thats just friggen cool! I love this aircraft, and that paint just made my day. Great job!

tommieboy
August 20th, 2011, 10:15
Thats just friggen cool! I love this aircraft, and that paint just made my day. Great job!

Hi Gibbage.....

Glad you like it. I'm working on a VF-111 Sundowner paint scheme too, just started it today. With the triagular shape of this plane, the obvious graphic solutions do not always give the best results. I'm thinking of an asymmetrical paint scheme. Time will tell. VF-111 will be revised to read as VFA-111 just like the Jolly Rogers paint scheme.

Regards,

Tommy

Gibbage
August 20th, 2011, 10:55
Flying wings lend themselvs very well to some very creative paint jobs due to there flat and mostly unbroken canvas. I just there were more flying wings in the world to paint!

tommieboy
August 20th, 2011, 11:41
Sundowner's Work In Progress......still needs a lot of work / alignment.
WOW. It looks cRazY StuPid, but I'm really liking this one......:isadizzy:

I mirrored the sun beams to the other side of the plane for a symmetrical look, but it just looked cRazY StuPid x2. I'll stick to the asymmetrical paint scheme, as currently shown, for now.

Tommy

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PRB
August 20th, 2011, 11:44
The A-12A Dorito II, hehe. Nice paint!
:ernae:

Gibbage
August 20th, 2011, 20:12
Nice! I would try one of the new retro paint jobs your seeing on Navy and Marine birds now, like the 2 tone or even 3 tone blue on grey paints from WWII.

http://airpigz.com/blog/2011/2/10/more-awesome-retro-paint-for-the-centennial-of-naval-aviatio.html

tommieboy
August 20th, 2011, 22:28
Nice! I would try one of the new retro paint jobs your seeing on Navy and Marine birds now, like the 2 tone or even 3 tone blue on grey paints from WWII.

http://airpigz.com/blog/2011/2/10/more-awesome-retro-paint-for-the-centennial-of-naval-aviatio.html

Yeah, the EA-6B looks pretty cool.....

Tommy

tommieboy
August 21st, 2011, 19:49
AVAILABLE NOW!

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fa_a12-a_avenger_ii_sundowners_v1.0.zip

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tommieboy
August 21st, 2011, 19:59
Nice! I would try one of the new retro paint jobs your seeing on Navy and Marine birds now, like the 2 tone or even 3 tone blue on grey paints from WWII.

Work In Progress......It's not based on any one particular paint scheme, but I think it captures the feel of the period. The VFA unit is not set just yet....

Tommy

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morpheusfz
August 22nd, 2011, 12:55
cool... :applause:

tommieboy
August 22nd, 2011, 15:30
Should be finished soon......

Tommy

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StormILM
August 22nd, 2011, 20:34
Awesome paints for a great model!

I love this model but boy oh boy did I have to adjust the contact points for the landing gear for AI Carrier ops. It's approach speed is still quite high. I may do some work on the airfile to tweak it out for a lower approach speed and other improvements in handling.

TARPSBird
August 23rd, 2011, 02:35
An air file from an A-6 Intruder might be a good starting point. :)

peter12213
August 23rd, 2011, 11:34
Is there any chance of some RAF and Swiss air Force ones a flight of these over the Alps would look fantastic in my opinion!

tommieboy
August 23rd, 2011, 11:39
Awesome paints for a great model!

I love this model but boy oh boy did I have to adjust the contact points for the landing gear for AI Carrier ops. It's approach speed is still quite high. I may do some work on the airfile to tweak it out for a lower approach speed and other improvements in handling.


How and what are you using for AI Carrier ops? I used Alphasim's Enterprise back when I used FS2004, but never fooled around with the AI stuff.

Tommy

tommieboy
August 23rd, 2011, 11:42
Is there any chance of some RAF and Swiss air Force ones a flight of these over the Alps would look fantastic in my opinion!

As time allows and if it's within my limited skill set; I can't do everything in Photoshop and curved lines kill me.

You have any links to the paint schemes you'd like to see?

Tommy

peter12213
August 23rd, 2011, 14:04
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This one for the Swiss and this one for the RAF. Many thanks if these can be done Tommy!

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StormILM
August 23rd, 2011, 14:12
How and what are you using for AI Carrier ops? I used Alphasim's Enterprise back when I used FS2004, but never fooled around with the AI stuff.

Tommy

I use AICarriers 2 program which is freeware over at Avsim. It allows me to set the carrier position and direction in FSX Acc. Most of the FSX Carrier models can be set up in AICarriers and of course they are now moving and not static. Setting up an aircraft model's contact points for carrier ops for the moving AI Carriers takes a bit more tweaking than standard non-moving decks and runways. The biggest problem I encountered with the A-12 was the gear compression/rate which would tip steeply forward during traps and cat launches sometimes causing a crash detection. I got it sorted out but it isn't perfect. I need to work on the airfile to get a slower approach speed to the deck.

Ferry_vO
August 23rd, 2011, 14:48
Great repaints; thank you!

P.s. I bet it would look great in a Blue Angles livery too! Nudge nudge, wink wink! :icon_lol:

tommieboy
August 23rd, 2011, 15:18
46599

This one for the Swiss and this one for the RAF. Many thanks if these can be done Tommy!

46600


Hmmmmmm.......OK..........

Those are pretty plain jane paint schemes; overall grey with just some a few unit flashes / decals here and there. Is that what you are looking for on the A-12A too?

Tommy

OK, just a quick and dirty texture mod as a start; not sure about the overall grey color......

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tommieboy
August 23rd, 2011, 15:19
I use AICarriers 2 program which is freeware over at Avsim. It allows me to set the carrier position and direction in FSX Acc. Most of the FSX Carrier models can be set up in AICarriers and of course they are now moving and not static. Setting up an aircraft model's contact points for carrier ops for the moving AI Carriers takes a bit more tweaking than standard non-moving decks and runways. The biggest problem I encountered with the A-12 was the gear compression/rate which would tip steeply forward during traps and cat launches sometimes causing a crash detection. I got it sorted out but it isn't perfect. I need to work on the airfile to get a slower approach speed to the deck.

Thanks, I'll have a look-see into that when I have more time.

Tommy

tommieboy
August 23rd, 2011, 15:22
Great repaints; thank you!

P.s. I bet it would look great in a Blue Angles livery too! Nudge nudge, wink wink! :icon_lol:


I'll see what I can come up with after I do the Swiss and RAF repaints.

Tommy

tommieboy
August 23rd, 2011, 15:31
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Stefano Zibell
August 23rd, 2011, 22:36
StormILM, could you upload that airfile? It's impossible to land this on a carrier without doing some rad backflips :icon_lol:

morpheusfz
August 24th, 2011, 04:17
Is a "normal" all grey Paint for the u.s.navy possible?

tommieboy
August 24th, 2011, 07:43
Is a "normal" all grey Paint for the u.s.navy possible?

The default paint scheme that comes with the model is an all grey paint scheme with U.S. Navy markings.

Tommy

dvj
August 24th, 2011, 08:40
Great repaints guys! I'd like to see some USAF retro if possible.
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peter12213
August 24th, 2011, 09:35
Thats exacatly what I was looking for Tommy there great!

XLR8
August 24th, 2011, 10:48
TEXTURES ONLY.......

Available on avsim.com; search for:

fa_a12-a_avenger_ii_v1.0.zip

If the A12-A evolved into a FA-12A we might have seen a retro paint scheme like this......


http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/933.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/934.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/936.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/938.jpg

This is a very nice repaint. I love it!

tommieboy
August 24th, 2011, 15:01
......Tommy there great!

This is a far as I feel that I can take this one.....

Do you want me to upload it as shown, or do you want me to delete the large "ghost" cross on the top, or add some specific markings?

I'll look into the RAF repaint after this one, but I may need more specifics on unit makings, serial numbers, etc. as I don't know jack about the RAF.

Tommy

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tommieboy
August 24th, 2011, 15:02
This is a very nice repaint. I love it!

Thanks! Nice to see more people using these repaints.....

Tommy

peter12213
August 24th, 2011, 15:19
"This is a far as I feel that I can take this one"

This is exactly what I wanted and more!!! Thanks so much and Yes please, thanks so much my friend!!

Pete!

Your work is stunning!

peter12213
August 24th, 2011, 15:27
RAF 41sqn http://www.raf.mod.uk/organisation/41squadron.cfm

46670

46671

46672

I love how you just make them up as this is a fictional aircraft so this is all yours, I want to see what you think this should look like! :jump: :salute:

tommieboy
August 24th, 2011, 16:02
RAF 41sqn http://www.raf.mod.uk/organisation/41squadron.cfm

46670

46671

46672

I love how you just make them up as this is a fictional aircraft so this is all yours, I want to see what you think this should look like! :jump: :salute:

So, you want a "Hi Vis" Red / White paint scheme in lieu of the "Low Vis" grey?

Tommy

peter12213
August 24th, 2011, 16:22
Thats the beauty of it Tommy, is that it's up to you my friend!! It's your paint brush you choose, I look forward to it, 41sqn is the weapons test sqn they tought the Royal family to fly jets, how would you like it to look, I want to see what you think the A-12 should look like! Its all for Sh*ts and giggles mate!:wavey:

peter12213
August 24th, 2011, 16:24
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All for fun!

tommieboy
August 24th, 2011, 18:43
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peter12213
August 25th, 2011, 09:58
Thanks Tommy these are great, I will post some shots later!

delta_lima
August 25th, 2011, 11:09
Hello Tommie!

Your recent repaints have caused me to dig up this lovely little gem.

Any room in the line for a basic CF-188 scheme? Just medium grey uppers, lighter grey bottom, maybe a false canopy (don't know how that would work given where the nose gear sits ...)

That would be lovely.

Many thanks - whether you choose it or not.

regards,



46725

tommieboy
August 25th, 2011, 11:27
Hello Tommie!

Your recent repaints have caused me to dig up this lovely little gem.

Any room in the line for a basic CF-188 scheme? Just medium grey uppers, lighter grey bottom, maybe a false canopy (don't know how that would work given where the nose gear sits ...)

That would be lovely.

Many thanks - whether you choose it or not.

regards,



46725


I was planning to do one of those too, with the false canopy. But that will have to wait until after the RAF, and Blue Angel repaints.

Tommy

delta_lima
August 25th, 2011, 11:40
I was planning to do one of those too, with the false canopy. But that will have to wait until after the RAF, and Blue Angel repaints.

Tommy

Brilliant sir - no hurry whatsoever - happy to wait!

DL

tommieboy
August 25th, 2011, 17:47
Thats the beauty of it Tommy, is that it's up to you my friend!! It's your paint brush you choose, I look forward to it, 41sqn is the weapons test sqn they tought the Royal family to fly jets, how would you like it to look, I want to see what you think the A-12 should look like! Its all for Sh*ts and giggles mate!:wavey:

Welp, I tried an old school symmetrical retro repaint at first but it wasn't working out so I dropped that for now. I decided to go in the opposite direction and went with more modern asymmetrical paint scheme to accentuate the lines of the A-12A. I notice that some of the RAF jets were heavy on the red color with a little blue on the tail rudder. I felt the an overall white base would look more modern and clean. So I went with white and added some blue into the mix. Do you think the Royal family would faint if this bird rolled up on the flight line? I wouldn't mind a backseat ride in this one. It looks clean and sharp.....

Tommy

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delta_lima
August 25th, 2011, 18:05
The Red Arrow(heads)!

Inventive and clever....looks like you've added some panel lines ... sweet!

XLR8
August 25th, 2011, 18:16
I was planning to do one of those too, with the false canopy. But that will have to wait until after the RAF, and Blue Angel repaints.

Tommy


ooooooooooo....The Blue Angels!

tommieboy
August 25th, 2011, 18:28
The Red Arrow(heads)!

Inventive and clever....looks like you've added some panel lines ... sweet!


Thanks DL.......

The panel lines are there in all the repaints; it's just that the stark white really makes them pop out. I might tone them down a bit in the white areas.

Tommy

peter12213
August 26th, 2011, 16:32
"Sir Tommy" that is the complete opposite of what I expected and I LOVE IT!!! You have done an unreal job!!
The Royal Family would Knight you my friend!! :salute: :applause::jump:

tommieboy
August 26th, 2011, 18:33
"Sir Tommy" that is the complete opposite of what I expected and I LOVE IT!!! You have done an unreal job!!
The Royal Family would Knight you my friend!! :salute: :applause::jump:

Thanks for the kind words.....

Is the 41 Squadron logo / flash (located at the left side of the back seater) appropriate on this aircraft? If not, I'll remove it.

Tommy

Ferry_vO
August 27th, 2011, 02:44
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/Dorito.jpg

:applause: Thanks again Tommy! There's just something about this aircraft..

That British paint looks great too (Although it looks a bit like a Dutch police car now!); how about a Vulcan retro paint? All anti-flash white, or maybe a green/gray camo..? Sorry, just thinking out loud here!

Small question here: Is it possible to change the exhausts so both have the same colour? I love this model but I just think the red and green 'lights' in the back look a bit odd:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/exhausts.jpg

peter12213
August 27th, 2011, 02:58
Tommy it is not normally put on the aircraft I just included it incase you wanted to use it, as said it's up to you how you want it too look, if you don't like it then feel free to remove it.

Roger
August 27th, 2011, 03:45
Thanks Tommy:applause:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/A12-a-tb.jpg

Ferry_vO
August 27th, 2011, 04:55
Where did you find that paint, Roger?

tommieboy
August 27th, 2011, 06:49
:applause: Thanks again Tommy! There's just something about this aircraft..

That British paint looks great too (Although it looks a bit like a Dutch police car now!); how about a Vulcan retro paint? All anti-flash white, or maybe a green/gray camo..? Sorry, just thinking out loud here!

Small question here: Is it possible to change the exhausts so both have the same colour? I love this model but I just think the red and green 'lights' in the back look a bit odd:



Wow, the Dutch must have pretty cool looking patrol cars. I'll have to check that out.

Not sure if I can do too many more repaints at this time as my plate is full.....

Those exhaust colors seem to be hard coded in, as there are no entries for it in the [lights] section of the aircraft.cfg file. Not 100% sure though. Might be also be an effects texture file; I look around sometime later this week.

Tommy

tommieboy
August 27th, 2011, 06:53
Tommy it is not normally put on the aircraft I just included it incase you wanted to use it, as said it's up to you how you want it too look, if you don't like it then feel free to remove it.

I'll leave it on then, as it adds some character to the repaint.

Tommy

tommieboy
August 27th, 2011, 06:57
Thanks Tommy:applause:



You're welcome Roger.....

That seems to be Dillingham Air Field in the background. I spent my high school summers out there with Civil Air Patrol. Did more fooling around than flying, but it was all fun.

Tommy

Ferry_vO
August 27th, 2011, 07:35
Those exhaust colors seem to be hard coded in, as there are no entries for it in the [lights] section of the aircraft.cfg file. Not 100% sure though. Might be also be an effects texture file; I look around sometime later this week.

Couldn't fix it myself; there are two squares in the right color on the glass texture but changing the colors didn't work. There are only two lights, both beacons and the effects don't seem to be linked to the exhausts either.

As for the police cars..

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tommieboy
August 27th, 2011, 08:27
Couldn't fix it myself; there are two squares in the right color on the glass texture but changing the colors didn't work. There are only two lights, both beacons and the effects don't seem to be linked to the exhausts either.


Just checked my it out on my computer and it looks like this! It's a pretty cool and dynamic effect and not static as shown in the screen capture; the offset of the lights / effects is a known FSX bug. Are you running FSX Acceleration?

Tommy

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Roger
August 27th, 2011, 08:30
Where did you find that paint, Roger?

Hi Ferry,
Avsim fa_a12-a_avenger_ii_sundowners_v1.0.zip

Roger
August 27th, 2011, 08:32
You're welcome Roger.....

That seems to be Dillingham Air Field in the background. I spent my high school summers out there with Civil Air Patrol. Did more fooling around than flying, but it was all fun.

Tommy

Dead right!:applause: I thought I'd take the shot close to home for you.

Ferry_vO
August 27th, 2011, 08:44
Just checked my it out on my computer and it looks like this! It's a pretty cool and dynamic effect and not static as shown in the screen capture; the offset of the lights / effects is a known FSX bug. Are you running FSX Acceleration?


Yes I am running Acceleration.

It's only a small niggle, but I thought maybe there was an easy fix.

Ferry_vO
August 27th, 2011, 08:45
Hi Ferry,
Avsim fa_a12-a_avenger_ii_sundowners_v1.0.zip

Thanks Roger, somehow I missed that!

tommieboy
August 27th, 2011, 12:29
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Roger
August 27th, 2011, 12:55
Great stuff Tommy:applause:

peter12213
August 28th, 2011, 17:09
Awesoem thanks so much!

tommieboy
August 29th, 2011, 22:37
Any room in the line for a basic CF-188 scheme? Just medium grey uppers, lighter grey bottom, maybe a false canopy (don't know how that would work given where the nose gear sits ...)

AVAILABLE NOW!

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fa_a12-a_avenger_ii_canada_1.0.zip


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delta_lima
August 29th, 2011, 22:54
That is just so classy - well done and thanks again!!!

DL

rayhere48
August 29th, 2011, 23:18
Ok I missed the airplane, where can I get it? Great repaints by the way.

Dain Arns
August 30th, 2011, 02:23
Ok I missed the airplane, where can I get it? Great repaints by the way.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/page.php?lloc=downloads&loc=downloads&page=info&FileID=12303

dvj
August 30th, 2011, 17:47
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tommieboy
August 30th, 2011, 18:21
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Looks a bit apocalyptic, like it's for all the marbles....

Tommy

tommieboy
September 1st, 2011, 14:02
AVAILABLE NOW!

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a-12a_avenger_ii_fsx_raf_cc_1.0.zip

This is a WW2 RAF Coastal Command retro repaint.

Not exactly the retro Vulcan repaint that was asked for in a previous post, but this was already in the paint shop, so I hope it will suffice.....


Tommy

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delta_lima
September 1st, 2011, 15:00
Looks great Tommie! Love the CF bird, btw - that was a real treat.

:guinness::guinness:

dl

doublecool
September 1st, 2011, 15:08
You're welcome Roger.....

That seems to be Dillingham Air Field in the background. I spent my high school summers out there with Civil Air Patrol. Did more fooling around than flying, but it was all fun.

Tommy

I got the worst sunburn ever there, snorkeling right along the shore, what a great day that was :wiggle:

Wonderful Paints Thanks so much

tommieboy
September 10th, 2011, 11:09
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I did this retro Royal Navy paint scheme to compliment my previously released retro RAF Coastal Command repaint. They look pretty cool flying together.

Tommy

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big-mike
September 10th, 2011, 11:13
Wow----that`s looking great!
Going to dl.
Many thanks!
Michael

tommieboy
September 10th, 2011, 11:14
Here's the two flying together.....

Tommy

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tommieboy
September 12th, 2011, 13:40
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This paint scheme is styled after Keith Ferris' deceptive camouflage paint schemes from the past. I had some fun trying to figure this one out......:isadizzy:

Tommy

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ryanbatc
September 12th, 2011, 13:57
Is this a real plane that went into production? How odd!

Okami
September 12th, 2011, 14:39
Hi Ryan,

The General Dynamics/McDonnell Douglas A-12 Avenger II was intended as a stealth replacement of the Grumman A-6 Intruder. It was initially designed to have a higher payload than the F-117 Nighthawk and a true air-to-air capability, but was largely developed in secrecy.

The prototype should have made its first flight in 1991, but the programme was cancelled by the then Defense Secretary Dick Cheney in January of that year, just before Operation Desert Storm, the First (US) Gulf War (or Second Gulf War if you count the Iran-Iraq war of 1980-1988). At the time of its cancellation, there were still a lot of issues with the aircraft, such as development problems with its radar system, the aircraft weighing 30% more than expected, and a unit cost of over $100 million.

The entire programme cost over $2 billion, and produced little more than a full-size mock-up model that was revealed to the public in 1996, five years after its cancellation; tonnes of artists' impressions of what could have been, and dozens of court cases, some of which are still ongoing, a little over twenty years later...

lazarus
September 12th, 2011, 15:00
The full scale engineering mockup was saved and restored by a group of ex-GD employees, as of a few years back, it was still in store at Lockheeds in Ft.Worth.
Nice repaint! I've always liked the ferris cam schemes.

ryanbatc
September 12th, 2011, 16:02
Hi Ryan,

The General Dynamics/McDonnell Douglas A-12 Avenger II was intended as a stealth replacement of the Grumman A-6 Intruder...

Thanks!

tommieboy
September 14th, 2011, 10:54
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Available on avsim.com; search for:

fa_a12-a_avenger_ii_canada_digital_1.0.zip

I originally tried an ocean blue digital scheme for the U.S. NAVY, but it just didn't look right, so I went with a winter digital paint scheme which looks pretty cool. The Canadian's seem like the one's game enough to pull this off, so I went with the Canadian insignias on this one.

Tommy

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/650.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/649.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/648.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/647.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/646.jpg

tommieboy
October 4th, 2011, 18:25
AVAILABLE NOW!

TEXTURES ONLY.......

Available on avsim.com; search for:

a-12a_avenger_ii_fsx_raaf_1.0.zip

Here's one for the Aussies......

This was the hardest paint scheme to layout so far; it doesn't look like it took much effort, but geez this took a while to come up with something presentable.

Tommy

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/549.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/544.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/543.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/539.jpg

Ferry_vO
October 5th, 2011, 01:45
:applause: :applause: Looks great Tommy!

tommieboy
October 5th, 2011, 06:42
:applause: :applause: Looks great Tommy!

Thanks Ferry_vO......

I struggled with this one, but learned a few more techniques in Photoshop along the way. Also, I found an easy to use payware program that allows me to insert any aircraft as an AI aircraft; it's called AirTrafficFX. That's how I've been doing my screenshots with multiple aircraft.

Tommy

dvj
October 5th, 2011, 14:53
I happen to know that the Aussies never flew these!

Sundog
October 5th, 2011, 16:14
I happen to know that the Aussies never flew these!

Nobody ever flew these. Which is why with fictional schemes, anyone can. ;)

tommieboy
October 5th, 2011, 19:14
I happen to know that the Aussies never flew these!

But now they can.....:cool:

Tommy

lazarus
October 6th, 2011, 01:41
AI Formation! Freeware, in game usable, though it uses an limited number of preset formations, altitudes and speeds, a maximum of 4 aircraft. It does allow a certain amount of manipulation of the configuration file prior to start, and will let you use anything in the aircraft file, including rotorcraft and seaplanes, as long as they're in the aircraft folder. You can spawn on a stationary AI carrier as well, as long as you start the add on after you've landed on.
Looking sharp. Too bad the Dorito didn't make it. Hmm. Dorito... Perhaps a Dutch machine- painted like a wedge of cheese!

tommieboy
October 6th, 2011, 15:18
AI Formation! Freeware, in game usable, though it uses an limited number of preset formations, altitudes and speeds, a maximum of 4 aircraft. It does allow a certain amount of manipulation of the configuration file prior to start, and will let you use anything in the aircraft file, including rotorcraft and seaplanes, as long as they're in the aircraft folder. You can spawn on a stationary AI carrier as well, as long as you start the add on after you've landed on.
Looking sharp. Too bad the Dorito didn't make it. Hmm. Dorito... Perhaps a Dutch machine- painted like a wedge of cheese!

I think AirTrafficFX is done by the same author; AI Formation doesn't seem to hold a tight formation, so I picked up AirTrafficFX which does. However, AirTrafficFX doesn't have the preset formations like AI Formation does. So it's a toss-up.

Regards,

Tommy

tommieboy
November 4th, 2011, 11:03
AVAILABLE NOW!

TEXTURES ONLY.......

Available on avsim.com; search for:

a-12a_avenger_ii_fsx_raaf_2.0.zip

I wanted to see what a grey on the underside paint scheme would look like. While I was at it, I decided to have another look-see at the layout of the stripes, and the result are what you see here. I think it looks better than the original release. I've included both the new grey and original blue underside paint scheme with the revised stripes in the zip file.

Tommy

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A12A_504.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A12A_503.jpg



http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A12A_502.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A12A_501.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A12A_500.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A12A_496.jpg

Jafo
July 1st, 2012, 05:43
I've had this one for yonks.....but these recent repaints got me all eager to mess with it some more....

Thought I'd see what 4096x4096 would do for it [there's only one 'real' skin image, anyway]....

Getting some lines back in.....vaguely close to the moving bits was 'interesting'.....

First a 'rework'..... [this is my 'thumbnail']....
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....then more 'what if' in Camo..... [you never know]....;)
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tommieboy
July 1st, 2012, 23:28
I've had this one for yonks.....but these recent repaints got me all eager to mess with it some more....



Jafo, nice to see this aircraft still getting some TLC from the flight sim community.

Tommy

Jafo
July 2nd, 2012, 05:26
Yes, it's a fun plane. I've rigged up a 2D pit from a cap of the VC [I like having both], added some burner effects [the built-in ones are a bit twee] and some smoke....always looks more fun with smoke.... hunting down some GE turbofan sounds and reworking skins at per-pixel level.
Ah, it's all fun....until someone gets hurt....;)

dvj
July 3rd, 2012, 09:28
I've had this one for yonks.....but these recent repaints got me all eager to mess with it some more....

Thought I'd see what 4096x4096 would do for it [there's only one 'real' skin image, anyway]....

Getting some lines back in.....vaguely close to the moving bits was 'interesting'.....

First a 'rework'..... [this is my 'thumbnail']....
68474

....then more 'what if' in Camo..... [you never know]....;)
68475


Excellent! I hope ye be posting these soon lad.

AussieMan
July 3rd, 2012, 15:34
I've had this one for yonks.....but these recent repaints got me all eager to mess with it some more....

Thought I'd see what 4096x4096 would do for it [there's only one 'real' skin image, anyway]....

Getting some lines back in.....vaguely close to the moving bits was 'interesting'.....

First a 'rework'..... [this is my 'thumbnail']....
68474

....then more 'what if' in Camo..... [you never know]....;)
68475

Available for download yet?

Jafo
July 4th, 2012, 06:36
First one is a rework of Tommieboy's original....so I'd need consent to distribute.
[I am a site admin for a GUI skinning site [Wincustomize.com] so am conscious of Intellectual Property rights]
It also has 'nose-art' [bare boobs]...a Marilyn pose....also not mine to distribute.

The other one'd be OK...that's all mine.

Here's another....pulled some graphics off a F117....[not originally mine].....silly thing looks like a pair of jeans....;p
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dvj
July 4th, 2012, 07:20
First one is a rework of Tommieboy's original....so I'd need consent to distribute.
[I am a site admin for a GUI skinning site [Wincustomize.com] so am conscious of Intellectual Property rights]
It also has 'nose-art' [bare boobs]...a Marilyn pose....also not mine to distribute.

The other one'd be OK...that's all mine.

Here's another....pulled some graphics off a F117....[not originally mine].....silly thing looks like a pair of jeans....;p
68571

"bare boobs" :applause::applause::applause:

tommieboy
July 4th, 2012, 08:00
First one is a rework of Tommieboy's original....so I'd need consent to distribute.


I'm not picky about what people do with my repaints, so go ahead and distribute when you are ready.....:cool:

But please do give credit to Tim "Piglet" Conrad (in your readme.txt file) for the original textures that we are basing our new textures on, as much of what we still see on our aircraft repaints, is his original texture work.

Tommy

Jafo
July 4th, 2012, 19:53
Thanks, Tommy ...;)

Re Tim's original/s I'd certainly include any and all references to source work/s....that's a given.

The increase to 4096 res gives me the chance to do a lot more in 'fine detail' 4 pixels per pixel ... so I still want to 'clean' up the colour boundaries...eg blue/white....red/white etc so zooming in can be more 'fun', but that's going to take 'some time', mostly because I didn't do enough of the linework in layers...so it's pixel-pushing-time.

68617

Here's another shot ...bit newer. The air intakes look a bit like a 'shark' so I added eyes....
The graphic to the rear of the canopy is from the Aliens dropship ... "We Endanger Species" [always got a giggle out of that]. SQN badges are No.2 RAAF Amberley [it IS 'what if'] and RAAF, and the yellow linework around the canopy glass was a REAL PAIN as the model does horrible things to it in places, but at the graphic scale all sorts of text info can be added. I haven't really touched anything other than the main a12a-01 and its equivalent LM....
But....there's always more to do....;)

dvj
July 4th, 2012, 20:41
Thanks, Tommy ...;)

Re Tim's original/s I'd certainly include any and all references to source work/s....that's a given.

The increase to 4096 res gives me the chance to do a lot more in 'fine detail' 4 pixels per pixel ... so I still want to 'clean' up the colour boundaries...eg blue/white....red/white etc so zooming in can be more 'fun', but that's going to take 'some time', mostly because I didn't do enough of the linework in layers...so it's pixel-pushing-time.

68617

Here's another shot ...bit newer. The air intakes look a bit like a 'shark' so I added eyes....
The graphic to the rear of the canopy is from the Aliens dropship ... "We Endanger Species" [always got a giggle out of that]. SQN badges are No.2 RAAF Amberley [it IS 'what if'] and RAAF, and the yellow linework around the canopy glass was a REAL PAIN as the model does horrible things to it in places, but at the graphic scale all sorts of text info can be added. I haven't really touched anything other than the main a12a-01 and its equivalent LM....
But....there's always more to do....;)


Being an American icon, you should probably remove Marylin.

tommieboy
July 4th, 2012, 22:29
....The increase to 4096 res gives me the chance to do a lot more in 'fine detail' 4 pixels per pixel ...,

I run Photoshop C5, and my CPU / system struggles to load / save 4096 res files. If I have to load a second file of that size to "cut and paste" between the files, it's simply not going to happen.....that takes the fun out of repainting for me.....:blind:

I run WinXP Home with 4 GB ram (3 GB usable); just not enough horsepower to keep up with the big boys....:costum:

Tommy

Jafo
July 5th, 2012, 06:53
I run Photoshop C5, and my CPU / system struggles to load / save 4096 res files. If I have to load a second file of that size to "cut and paste" between the files, it's simply not going to happen.....that takes the fun out of repainting for me.....:blind:

I run WinXP Home with 4 GB ram (3 GB usable); just not enough horsepower to keep up with the big boys....:costum:

Tommy

Ah....GTX590 here and 12 gig of ram, SSD et al. Loading more than one image [PSP] isn't so much of an issue...but unlimited 'undos' soon sees things getting iffy....only because it's a small SSD [60gig]....stepping up to a 256 or so soon.

Spent the arvo 'cleaning' the borders between colour stripes....and now I'm not as happy with the panel lines....
Poor old DXTBmp has a hard time switching/loading 4096's .... but you can always reread War and Peace in the interim.

tommieboy
July 5th, 2012, 07:57
.....Poor old DXTBmp has a hard time switching/loading 4096's ....

How did i forget about that one......:isadizzy:

Yeah, that's pretty much the kiss of death on my rig; that is just a morale buster when you've got family breathing down your neck to get off of the computer, and you are just sitting there waiting for DXTBmp to do its thing on a 4096 file.....:blind:

I have started to save up for a new rig, but it will be over a year until I save up for something decent; I am going to finally retire my WinXP Home Edition and move onto Windows 7 64 bit at that point. Might just go back to FS2004 (the good old days) and save some bucks, time, and frustration.....:icon_lol:

I should add that FSX runs just fine and smooth on my current rig; it's Photoshop that ruins the day.

Tommy

Jafo
July 10th, 2012, 20:06
I guess I am going to have to upload 'something' sooner or later.....
One thing I've always messed with was USAF Thunderbirds graphics..... did a Thud, even a Tonka ....and now the Avenger....though it's easy in some respects it isn't like a 'normal' aircraft planform [stating the bleeding obvious]....
....but it sort of worked OK. I just need to think up something for the stars placement ....;)
68975

Jafo
July 10th, 2012, 20:21
Oops...forgot the bum view....
68976

tommieboy
July 10th, 2012, 20:38
I thought about doing a Thunderbird scheme too, but didn't want to mess with religion... I figured if I really wanted to get nasty, I'd place Navy pilots in those jets too..:icon_lol:

I also started a Blue Angels scheme (a bunch of them), but put it on the back burner as I didn't get the warm and fuzzy on the graphics that I came up with.

Tommy

Jafo
July 11th, 2012, 17:59
I had a go ......as with the Tbirds ver the shape doesn't go easy with either livery.....

69018

Edit... pretty well finished.... though this screenie doesn't show the redone Pilots....blue suits yellow helmets....

69027

Jafo
July 30th, 2012, 20:09
Still having fun with the Avenger....
Had a go at reworking the Sundowners into 4096 ....with a few tweaks.....
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Then I got all eager and had a go at 101 Squadron as well ....more to do, though....
69961

Sundog
July 30th, 2012, 21:44
I thought about doing a Thunderbird scheme too, but didn't want to mess with religion... I figured if I really wanted to get nasty, I'd place Navy pilots in those jets too..:icon_lol:

There was going to be an USAF version of the A-12, as the Navy was supposed to get a Naval version of the ATF, the NATF as well. The Air Force variant would have differed from the Navy variant in not having folding wings and with the exhaust above the wing, not below it. The Air Force, with it's stealth experience over the years, especially with the F-117, knew it's aircraft would usually fly above 20K ft, so they wanted their exhaust shielded from below. Whereas the Navy, not having as much experience with stealth, felt they would still need NOE capability and therefore wanted their exhaust shielded from above.

Bone
July 30th, 2012, 22:25
Nice paints. On the T-Bird and Blue Angels paints, are you going to paint the pilots? (Red flight suit with red/white helmets for the T-Birds, and blue flight suits with yellow helmet for the Blues.)

Jafo
July 31st, 2012, 05:07
Nice paints. On the T-Bird and Blue Angels paints, are you going to paint the pilots? (Red flight suit with red/white helmets for the T-Birds, and blue flight suits with yellow helmet for the Blues.)

Yes, the helmets and suits are revised also.

The quirky bits of the model are a pain in the bum when you try skinning at such a high res....literally per pixel. The 'nose' is particularly iffy....at 4096 I'm still a half pixel out in places....the law of diminishing returns....;p

Jafo
July 31st, 2012, 07:40
Here's a couple of Tbird crew who stowed away on a Reaper.....
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That black pointy nose was a pain....;)

tommieboy
July 31st, 2012, 07:57
Still having fun with the Avenger....
Had a go at reworking the Sundowners into 4096 ....with a few tweaks.....

Very nice work on the Sundowners; I didn't think any one would be reworking these repaints, but I'm happy to see these and a bunch of new ones coming on line for the Avenger.

I was thinking of revisiting my Jolly Rodgers repaint as I always felt the overall graphics looked a bit to predictable. Still mulling over my Blue Angels repaints too; I am just not satisfied with what I've got so far.

Tommy

tommieboy
July 31st, 2012, 08:56
.....That black pointy nose was a pain....;)


That and the wings leading edge texture mapping has dashed many of my paint schemes; but that forced me to think outside of the box and go in directions that I would have not considered else wise.

Tommy

Jafo
August 1st, 2012, 06:04
I'd certainly be interested on your take on the Angels styling. When it's quasi-imaginary....just 'relating' to real aircraft paints.....there's so many ways one can go.....

Now.....if the Avenger was going to be in Oz service there's no reason it couldn't end up at Sale....... [a WIP]

70044

Once I finish finding new 'tweaks' to add to them all...I'll do something about uploading....;p

dvj
August 1st, 2012, 06:14
Please please upload! Great skins, esp the AUS model

j

Jafo
August 1st, 2012, 22:20
OK.....these two are finished [I need to stop somewhere]....will submit them once I've contacted Tim to verify specific permissions for these repaints...[I've skinned the Windows GUI for decades, but this is my first FSX upload - so I'll make sure I'm not stepping on toes, etc. FIRST]....;)

70079

Added a few more 'bits' to that one....

70080

....and that, too...;)

Meanwhile......Red Arrows........

tommieboy
August 2nd, 2012, 08:29
I'd certainly be interested on your take on the Angels styling.....

Oddly enough, this repaint started off as an attempt to do a crazy a** Aztec paint scheme based the ancient "aircraft" artifact shown below. Needless to say, I didn't get far with that paint scheme, and it somehow started to evolve into the Blue Angels paint scheme. You can see the influence of the Aztec "aircraft" in the Blue Angels paint scheme shown below. I also wanted to incorporate the duel yellow stripes from their uniforms into the paint scheme while emphasizing the triangular shape of this new aircraft; it just kind of work out with that Aztec aircraft deal. The aircraft paint scheme is what I would call directional, in that you have to fly the aircraft relative to your intended audience, or the text on the aircraft will appear upside down. At first I didn't like the directional issue, but the more I thought about it the more I thought that the Blue Angels could pull this off. This is pretty much where I left it, before I moved on to other repaints / aircraft......

Tommy

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/Ancient%20Airplane%20Model.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/BA_999.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/BA_735.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/BA_738.jpg

Jafo
August 2nd, 2012, 16:50
They're cool...;) I followed the 'normal' text 'shaped' to the wings as in the Hornets - with the rear 'end' of the form becoming the 'wings'. I have a bit more to do on mine before it's done.

Meanwhile....the Red Arrows one is 'blocked in' with the linework cleanup yet to do.....

70128

70129

Sort of works....;)

Update.... must be getting easier...almost done....;)

70132

Jafo
August 3rd, 2012, 19:31
Early days yet.... but there's squillions of Display Teams.......

70194

Edit.....starting to make sense.....

70205

Edit again.... top's done....now to start on the bottom.....

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Ferry_vO
August 4th, 2012, 01:28
Fantastic repaints! Still one of my favourite Piglet aircraft!

Can I put in a request for an A-12 in one of these schemes....?

The orange lion:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/GilzeRijen%202010/IMG_4990.jpg

Or the shockwave:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Leeuwarden_2008/F-16_Solo_Dirty_roll.jpg

Jafo
August 4th, 2012, 06:02
Possibly...I'll need to look into them....;)

Edit....just got an email from Tim .... looks like I'm good to go with my skin uploads ...so I'm gonna be a busy little wood duck ....;)

Did I mention this particular model is a lot of fun?

It is...;)

70210

The bum-side of the Snowbird.
It's all inspired from this one....

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delta_lima
August 4th, 2012, 13:57
Nice job on these!!!

I've always thought the angular lines of the Avenger II had a NASA test-bed look about it - might lend itself to a scheme like this ... a flying wing, if not a lifting body ... :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Martin_X-24B_USAF.jpg

Just an idea. Love the work you two have put into this bird...

DL

tommieboy
August 4th, 2012, 17:51
.....Love the work you two have put into this bird.....

Thanks DL.....

Once I finish my current in-progress repaint for the AlphaSim / Virtavia Martin Mars, I'll get back to finishing up the Blue Angels repaint. My friend wants me to "surprise" him with the finished product, though he already has had access to the current scheme shown in this thread for a few months now. He says it has grown on him and he doesn't really want me to change it at all. I think I can still surprise him and leave it as is.......:cool:

Tommy

Jafo
August 4th, 2012, 18:52
The NASA one as an 'X' plane wouldn't be too hard..... worth a go....
Meanwhile....the Snowbird is finished....even down to the two different vers of the Sqdn 431 badges....;)

70228

Jafo
August 4th, 2012, 19:04
Eek.....just looked at the RNLAF one.....that's gonna be a challenge....;)

Edit.....

VERY early in the process ....finding a suitable Lion-Rampant was the first problem....but maybe near enough....

70241

Edit 2 .... sort of works....assuming they'd make use of the 'bigger canvas'.....

70246

Ferry_vO
August 5th, 2012, 02:06
Not bad, but 'our' orange lion is not on all fours but standing on its hind legs. On the aircraft the lion is at an angle, not standing up straight.

You can find more info on the Dutch display F-16's paintschemes here: http://www.f16demoteam.nl/pages/multimedia/paintscheme-j-015.php

Jafo
August 5th, 2012, 04:03
Yes, I looked at the Dutch coat of arms....but was also looking for similar form and lineworking to what's on the 16s....

That lion actually isn't on 'all fours'....it's 'rampant'.....but I probably should have angled it at 45 to the axis of the plane....that way it'd be more obvious.

Nothing as yet has been complete and/or ideal.

There 'has to be' a complete lion 'graphic' from which the 16's artwork was applied.
If you can find it [not just the little bits on the 16] I'll be able to do it properly...;)

Jafo
August 5th, 2012, 06:00
A quick rotate of 22.5 deg ..... perhaps shows it more 'rampant' ....it's an 'orientation thing'....;)

70252

Ferry_vO
August 5th, 2012, 06:45
That's more like it!

Haven't been able to find a better suited lion anyway; yours looks about correct.

Jafo
August 5th, 2012, 07:24
That's more like it!

Haven't been able to find a better suited lion anyway; yours looks about correct.

Ah...great....;)

BTW....my Father-in-law is Dutch....still has a great accent...tho been out here since not long after WW2....'Verkade' ...;)

So....revised the colours too......

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dvj
August 5th, 2012, 09:36
Hi,

Where are the keul paints posted?

d

Jafo
August 5th, 2012, 17:42
Hi,

Where are the keul paints posted?

d

These two [so far] have been submitted here ....;)

70290
70291

Here's the WIP of the RNLAF Lion .....

70296

Edit....almost done .....

70298

Jafo
August 6th, 2012, 06:14
Giving this one a go....

70318

Ferry_vO
August 6th, 2012, 06:46
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! :ernae:

The shockwave scheme works really well with the triangular shape of the A-12! :applause:

The lion looks cool too!

tommieboy
August 6th, 2012, 13:14
.....Here's the WIP of the RNLAF Lion .....

70296

Edit....almost done .....

70298

Damn, that looks like one of those crazy paint schemes from the Japan Air Self-Defense Force.....:isadizzy:

Tommy

Jafo
August 6th, 2012, 18:40
These three have been submitted....

RAF Red Arrows....
70358

RCAF Snowbirds...
70359
...and my variation of the US Navy Blue Angels...
70360

Meanwhile I'm still messing with the 'shockwave' RNLAF thingie...;)

Jafo
August 6th, 2012, 21:09
Kinda finished with the Shockwave RNLAF .....

70365

dvj
August 6th, 2012, 23:58
Holly hole in a doenut Batman! The graphics are superb! Well done ol'chap!:applause:
:applause::applause:
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/954Untitled_1.jpg

dvj
August 7th, 2012, 00:16
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/545a12b.jpg

Jafo
August 7th, 2012, 05:36
Glad you like it, dvj ....;)

Meanwhile....since the XB-70 is one of my all-time fave aircraft [I can remember the News reports of the mid-air] ..... playing with a NASA ver.....XA-12, anyone? ....;)

70383

delta_lima
August 7th, 2012, 06:20
Love it! Glad you went with the earlier NASA lettering, rather than the 80's red worms style.

Meatball looks huge - but that's just opinion.

Really captured the essence of that mid-sixties test vehicle look. Will be all over this if you release this!

Many thanks,

DL

Jafo
August 7th, 2012, 07:07
DL ....yes, I was sucked in by a trendy '3D' graphic.....but I recovered....
The old NASA lettering is likely an anachronisim....but it suits.

Bit more to fiddle with....cos I'm aiming for a 'prototype' look ...so will rework the alpha to 'dull' bits....;)

70385

delta_lima
August 7th, 2012, 07:36
Hello Jafo!

Reallyl like the new look. I'm thrilled you're also picturing a "prototype" versus "billboard" - we're definitely on the same page. Curious you say anachronistic - which is true based on the cockpit. But I'm contemplating transplanting in a different VC in, to take the vehicle back to something that might have surfaced in the 60s or 70s. The windscreen frame common on most period aircraft pose a challenge, but something like the Piglet's F-5 or something on that vein may work.

Anyway - kudos on the progress - and thanks for the paint!

Regards,

Jafo
August 7th, 2012, 16:50
DL....
Still haven't altered parts of the shine....but I think I'm finished with the 'paint'....

70415 ...redid the NASA text, and put in several 'notes' re explosive charges, etc. 92-001 seems 'about right' ...;)

Edit..... finished. Got 'carried away' and added signatures to the canopy [from X15 pilot autographs]. Will upload soonish.

70425

delta_lima
August 7th, 2012, 17:23
Looks cooooool!

Like the Dryden logo - looks good. Did you intend to not include the hyphen between the XA and the 12A? That's about all I say ... bravo!

DL

Jafo
August 7th, 2012, 18:15
Rats....you noticed....;)
The USAF font I used didn't do dashes...so I left it out.
I'll put it in.....;)

Thumbnail..... 70433

dvj
August 7th, 2012, 22:50
DL....
Still haven't altered parts of the shine....but I think I'm finished with the 'paint'....

70415 ...redid the NASA text, and put in several 'notes' re explosive charges, etc. 92-001 seems 'about right' ...;)

Edit..... finished. Got 'carried away' and added signatures to the canopy [from X15 pilot autographs]. Will upload soonish.

70425

Fantastic! Not crazy about that General Dynamics blue banner, but hey, I'll take it! :jump::jump::jump:

I'd go as far to suggest that you offer a 50's flying wing like poished skin, but this on is the dog's bolli....

Jafo
August 8th, 2012, 05:34
I was already toying with the idea of 'hollow' text only for the GD ....the blue stripe worked better in the other skins that had more solid colouring....

Re 'metal'...the US of that one has a couple of 'unpainted' panels ... but not every model takes metal [chrome] as well as others....no spec bmp...;)

Edit....

70451 hollow lettering...;)

tommieboy
August 8th, 2012, 06:13
....Not crazy about that General Dynamics blue banner....

I think it would look better without it too.....:pop4:

Tommy

Jafo
August 8th, 2012, 13:53
A 'quick go' at metal....using the skin that was loaded at the time.....
Possibly with some delicate tweaking it can be plausible....though the 'flat' or expansive sheet metal look currently reflects without the right detail....needs more deliberate variation....

70487

dvj
August 8th, 2012, 15:44
A 'quick go' at metal....using the skin that was loaded at the time.....
Possibly with some delicate tweaking it can be plausible....though the 'flat' or expansive sheet metal look currently reflects without the right detail....needs more deliberate variation....

70487

I actually like the look of that. Looks more "proto" to my eyes anyway.

delta_lima
August 8th, 2012, 16:13
Wow - I hope you don't consider the NASA paint your "problem project/project from hell!" :icon_lol:


To be honest, when I first thought of it a few weeks back, I had a bare metal type concept in my head, along the lines of the ealier MF-2F, MF-F2/3, HL-10, etc. lifting bodies. IHowever, since I saw all the other paints were "fully painted", I assumed bare metal - or even a facsimile, would not be doable. Hence why I posted a painted X-24B (rather than the earlier unpainted) scheme. So that it's evolved to what it looks like now is just fantastic.

I'm happy with where it's headed - love that it's evolved into a "test vehicle" type concept. The contractor decals aren't really my thing either - but again, beggars can't be choosers. Thanks so very much!

DL

Jafo
August 8th, 2012, 18:00
It's gonna become the-skin-I-just-couldn't-get-beyond ......

Perhaps I keep at the metal ver .... and release both.
I'd always preferred my Tbirds skins to be metal-and-paint.....like the style of the F105 Tbird Tbirds
....so that one, too ....;)

Edit....
Managed to be a little more happy with the look....but the expanse of one-type of shine/reflection adversely affects detail and scale....particularly the underside.....so there's a lot more to do....

70511
I took out the 'General Dynamics' ....but left the MD
Going to need a black no-shine nose now.....

Jafo
August 8th, 2012, 20:54
OK...it looks like it's going to work.
Aliased text on a reflective surface is 'annoying' at this resolution/detail. I'll have a go at doing the trans and main both at even higher res unaliased....then shrink. [it's my notes re fuel and explosive charges....tiny fonts] Other than that, large variation in the trans tones breaks the bland metal look.

70521

Edit....finished.
Looks like I'll upload both vers....essentially only difference is the metal and text detail.

70537 Painted
70538 Metal

dvj
August 9th, 2012, 07:52
OK...it looks like it's going to work.
Aliased text on a reflective surface is 'annoying' at this resolution/detail. I'll have a go at doing the trans and main both at even higher res unaliased....then shrink. [it's my notes re fuel and explosive charges....tiny fonts] Other than that, large variation in the trans tones breaks the bland metal look.

70521

Edit....finished.
Looks like I'll upload both vers....essentially only difference is the metal and text detail.

70537 Painted
70538 Metal

:salute:
:salute::salute:
:salute:

Jafo
August 9th, 2012, 15:43
70552 Will this NASA one ever end.....

Yet another revision....continuing NASA stripe to US of plane.....

70555

delta_lima
August 9th, 2012, 18:16
You're likely going to hate me for this ....

But on reviewing this further, mightn't it make more sense if the "NASA" flashes went the other way - so you read them right side up when you're looking from the side looking inward - right now, they read right side up when looking outward from the inside (if that makes sense). Basically 180deg flip.

If not doable, no sweat ....

I'm running away now ... :)

MANY kind thanks,

DL

Jafo
August 9th, 2012, 20:15
You're likely going to hate me for this ....

I'm running away now ... :)

DL

Ah....you can run.....but you'll only die tired....;)

It's difficult...cos typically the NASA is on a tail, not a wing....but when there's directional logos/text they tend to be the way up I have them....eg like the Aussie roo's feet point towards the fuselage...not the wingtips....and the nose always points forward.

But...if you 'must' I can swap them easy enough....it's a simple mirror.

/me now goes off to kick something....;)

Edit...

I turned them round....but now [of course - sod's law] I'll HAVE TO do the same with the Serial Nos.......

I suggest you keep running.....;)

70558

Jafo
August 9th, 2012, 21:10
Gotta be done now.....;p

70559

delta_lima
August 9th, 2012, 22:06
Well, actually, there's something else .... :kilroy:

J/K. It's excellent - looks superb - nothing left to say.

As things worked out, I'm going camping for a number of days - if I don't comment until next week, it's because I won't be able to download.

Fantastic work - thanks for your tireless patience.

Regards,

DL

dvj
August 10th, 2012, 07:25
Gotta be done now.....;p

70559

Upload, upload !!!

Jafo
August 10th, 2012, 08:12
Shall do....all 3 vers of it....;)

Meanwhile...early rework.....70587

Finished......70602

Jafo
August 10th, 2012, 19:32
These three have been submitted.

Hopefully one of them will 'suit' just about everyone....;)
70603

70604

70605

Meanwhile.....

70608

Jafo
August 11th, 2012, 20:46
Here's another one on the go....

70647

Edit ....think this is done-ish ..... what to wear to a Tiger Meet....;)

70666

Jafo
August 13th, 2012, 07:26
Am going through the motions of creating a separate layer for.....rivets....making up a quasi-theoretical [artist's impression] of what 'might have been'.
It'll probably take forever....as I really need to research 'similar' aircraft in detail......for ideas.....

Dumbed down to 25% they're not 'annoying'....and a matching trans detail creates a fake 'bump map'....[sort of]....
70775

Ferry_vO
August 13th, 2012, 09:14
That Tigermeet paint is really cool! :applause:

tommieboy
August 14th, 2012, 13:29
AVAILABLE NOW!

TEXTURES ONLY.......

Available on avsim.com; search for:

a-12a_avenger_ii_fsx_blue_angels_1.0.zip

Though my friend (an ex marine helo pilot) had a lot of input on the blue / yellow paint scheme as shown below, I still managed to surprise him by adding a #8 aircraft at the last minute. It's the only one he wants to fly now.....:mixedsmi:

The #8 aircraft should ruffle some feathers among the old school Blue Angels establishment.....:icon_eek:

Make sure you read the Readme.txt file and click on the Readme.jpg image file for installation instructions.

Tommy

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/BA_735.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/BA_740.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/BA_447.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/BA_443.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/BA_473.jpg

Jafo
August 14th, 2012, 16:37
"AVAILABLE NOW!"

/me downloads.....;)

Jafo
August 14th, 2012, 17:15
These two have been submitted here.
Based on the RNLAF F16 Solo Display Team colours..... both J-015 and J-055.
I reworked the Shockwave ver to have 'metal' colouring in the rings - originally I had them all variations of grey.

Lion -
70864

Shockwave -
70865

Ferry_vO
August 15th, 2012, 01:51
Downloading now; thanks to both of you! :applause: :applause: :applause:

tommieboy
August 15th, 2012, 11:52
Here's another one on the go....

70647

Edit ....think this is done-ish ..... what to wear to a Tiger Meet....;)

70666

I prefer the one without the postage stamp on the tongue.....:cool:

Tommy

Ferry_vO
August 15th, 2012, 13:50
Great stuff! :applause:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/DutchDorito1.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/DutchDorito2.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/DutchDorito3.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/DutchDorito4.jpg

dvj
August 15th, 2012, 15:07
70910These are all great! Here's the next idea for you

Jafo
August 15th, 2012, 20:38
70910These are all great! Here's the next idea for you

dvj ... the NASA ones were 'inspired' by the X15 [a bit]. Do you mean something 'closer' ie. black?

dvj
August 15th, 2012, 21:21
dvj ... the NASA ones were 'inspired' by the X15 [a bit]. Do you mean something 'closer' ie. black?

Kinda thought so based on the NASA logo, but closer to black matte finish would be interesting.

Jafo
August 16th, 2012, 02:54
Kinda thought so based on the NASA logo, but closer to black matte finish would be interesting.
K ..... I have a half-done black one already.... could be suitably modded...;)

Jafo
August 16th, 2012, 07:12
Tommieboy's paint shown in #44 was what got me all inspired and eager. It was/is a superb bit of graphics/styling....and has been the one that got me trying the high res repaints....

While messing with a layer of rivets I found mine wasn't 100% symetrical. The axis of the top was 3 pixels out...and the bottom was 2.
There's a few bits that make it all 'interesting' but I decided to assume the beacon lights top and bottom were on the centerline and set everything from that [other than the canopy which is in a world of its own].

This is where it's at..... [no rivet layer or weathering - yet another idea].... but even the tiny text is legible...stuff about grabbing a ring...pulling it out 6 feet to jettison canopy...etc...;)

But it's the original styling that makes it work...;)

70956

The 'eyes' have it...;)

Jafo
August 16th, 2012, 16:38
Kinda thought so based on the NASA logo, but closer to black matte finish would be interesting.
Early throes of a more X-15-like appearance....but more to do....;)

70985

dvj
August 16th, 2012, 16:52
Early throes of a more X-15-like appearance....but more to do....;)

70985

:applause::applause::applause:

Jafo
August 17th, 2012, 15:49
"X-15" Avenger II is done. I think I prefer it to all the other NASA vers ....;)

71032

dvj
August 18th, 2012, 08:33
:applause::applause::applause:
"X-15" Avenger II is done. I think I prefer it to all the other NASA vers ....;)

71032

ThinkingManNeil
August 18th, 2012, 12:08
Flying wings lend themselvs very well to some very creative paint jobs due to there flat and mostly unbroken canvas. I just there were more flying wings in the world to paint!
Would definitely lend itself to some VERY interesting possibilities for racing at Reno!

N.

Jafo
August 19th, 2012, 06:39
The X-15 inspired variation of the NASA paint has been submitted here...;)

71121

Now to get back to the Tiger Meet .....

Then 'maybe' Reno.....;)

dvj
August 19th, 2012, 14:00
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/874a_12_nasa_light_copy.jpg

Jafo
August 19th, 2012, 18:32
Tiger meet version is done....and yes, the large wing expanse provides a decent canvas for the sort of fancy graphics of the Reno aircraft....;)

71143

Jafo
August 21st, 2012, 19:57
Grim Reapers is done....VFA-101
Shall up this and the Tiger shortly....;)

71288

Jafo
August 22nd, 2012, 07:29
Added a bit more to the Reaper .... toying with 'weathering' for a lived-in look ....dunno if I 'need' to get close and personal and chip the paint.....

71323

tommieboy
August 22nd, 2012, 13:11
"X-15" Avenger II is done. I think I prefer it to all the other NASA vers ....;)

71032

Fantastic......:mixedsmi:

I might just finish up my NASA repaint that has been sitting in the hangar for quite some time now. It won't be as cool as yours though.

Tommy

Jafo
August 22nd, 2012, 20:00
Fantastic......:mixedsmi:

I might just finish up my NASA repaint that has been sitting in the hangar for quite some time now. It won't be as cool as yours though.

Tommy

Tommy ....that'll be another one I'm interested in seeing...;)

So far, all my repaints have been modded/redone at pixel level as one-offs. My next effort will be to set them up as layered PSDs so I can add lines, rivets, weathering and other bits and pieces with 'ease'. The way I'm doing it at the moment is labour-intensive [and silly].

Here's a bigger pic of the Reaper skin ... with rivets and weathering as layers. Gets a bit tedious to have to add them to the trans image as well, but that's the price of high res, I guess...;)

71343

tommieboy
August 22nd, 2012, 22:00
Tommy ....that'll be another one I'm interested in seeing...;)

So far, all my repaints have been modded/redone at pixel level as one-offs. My next effort will be to set them up as layered PSDs so I can add lines, rivets, weathering and other bits and pieces with 'ease'. The way I'm doing it at the moment is labour-intensive [and silly].

Here's a bigger pic of the Reaper skin ... with rivets and weathering as layers. Gets a bit tedious to have to add them to the trans image as well, but that's the price of high res, I guess...;)

71343

My NASA repaint will be a bit simplistic, but one I wanted to do in any case. Even the "simple" repaints can drive you nuts. There is always something new to learn on every repaint.

Since you are doing rivets, metal skin, and weathering, I'll send you some images (maybe this weekend) of some work I did on my most current Virtavia / AlphaSim Martin Mars repaint. I tried a new technique I found on the internet that you may be interested in.

Tommy

Jafo
August 23rd, 2012, 05:11
My NASA repaint will be a bit simplistic, but one I wanted to do in any case. Even the "simple" repaints can drive you nuts. There is always something new to learn on every repaint.

Since you are doing rivets, metal skin, and weathering, I'll send you some images (maybe this weekend) of some work I did on my most current Virtavia / AlphaSim Martin Mars repaint. I tried a new technique I found on the internet that you may be interested in.

Tommy

Tommy,...simple paint or not I'd still like to see others' ideas, particularly when proto aircraft are such 'blank canvasses'....;)

Looking forward to anything you send, too ...;)

Jafo
August 23rd, 2012, 19:17
These two have been submitted here....

The Tiger Meet [Luftwaffe]....

71398

...and the US Navy Grim Reapers .... probably a more realistic 'what if'.
This one is resplendent with seam rivetting and weathering...;)

71399

Jafo
August 25th, 2012, 21:20
Am working on the layer method. This currently has 6 but I can see a few more to add.
I want to get a little more detail yet...;)

71520

Getting a bit 'fussy'....the 'rays' of the sun are exact at 11.25 degrees each ...;)

Edit....Just about done, I think....

71546

tommieboy
August 27th, 2012, 17:15
AVAILABLE NOW!

TEXTURES ONLY.......

Available on avsim.com; search for:

a-12a_avenger_ii_fsx_nasa_1.0.zip

Using the retired space shuttle as an inspiration, this is a fictitious repaint of a NASA New Technology Demonstration Test Platform. It is intended to test new technologies for a reusable two-seat emergency re-entry vehicle from future space stations.

Tommy

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_372.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_379.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_378.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_374.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_373.jpg

Jafo
August 27th, 2012, 18:32
Tommy....that looks great....;)

tommieboy
August 27th, 2012, 19:07
Tommy....that looks great....;)

Thanks,

That one was gathering dust on the shelf for quite a while. I figured I'd have another look-see at it before abandoning it for good. It came out much better than I expected it to look.

I am looking forward to your re-release of the Sundowners.

Tommy

delta_lima
August 27th, 2012, 19:19
Tommie and Jafo - some seriously yummy repaints there. Love the X-15 and most recent NASA paint - really believable.

Bravo!!

DL

Jafo
August 27th, 2012, 22:03
Thanks,

That one was gathering dust on the shelf for quite a while. I figured I'd have another look-see at it before abandoning it for good. It came out much better than I expected it to look.

I am looking forward to your re-release of the Sundowners.

Tommy

Took a bit of time off to buzz around in an Avenger Space Shuttle...;)
The retros are effective as 'flat' images ...I'd toyed with similar to create cannon ports ...but then got distracted.

It's taken a while to redraw almost 'everything' into alayered PSP image ....have never really done a lot with them ... so now am discovering how easy things can be made to be....

I'll add the Sundowners into this system more fully before release...but here's another of yours that is in the layered PSP....

71634

Didn't take as long as I thought.... here's the Sundowners in the layer system...;)

71635

Jafo
August 28th, 2012, 07:08
71637

This one has been submitted here...

One of the [several] great designs by Tommieboy that I just 'had to' play with in a higher res...to see what would happen.

111 Sqn. US Navy Sundowners. The Avenger II wing/form is just perfect for these graphics ...;)

ST0RM
August 28th, 2012, 11:44
The fantastic repaints for the Avenger has grabbed my interest again. I'll reload and give it some more time. Piglet's stuff is already top-notch. Your repaints have added to it.

Thanks!

JEff

cheezyflier
August 28th, 2012, 13:53
there are some really cool paints in this thread. i'm surprised it's been so active. still though, in all his time, no one has painted one to look like an actual dorito.

tommieboy
August 28th, 2012, 14:47
@DL
Tommie and Jafo - some seriously yummy repaints there. Love the X-15 and most recent NASA paint - really believable.
Thanks DL, if it wasn't for JAFO, my NASA repaint would still be sitting on the shelf gathering dust.

@JAFO
The retros are effective as 'flat' images ...
The retros came out much better than I ever imagined; they look good from any angle. Sometimes you get lucky.

@Storm
The fantastic repaints for the Avenger has grabbed my interest again.
I am glad these repaints are creating more interest in this jet. And the jet itself is freeware; you can't beat that!

@cheezyflier
still though, in all his time, no one has painted one to look like an actual dorito.
Trust me, I started one; it looked like a real bad skin condition, so I stopped.....:blind:

Tommy

tommieboy
August 28th, 2012, 16:41
The NASA bird up in its element 300,000 feet above Maui; I just wanted to see the curvature of the Earth.

I had to "slew" it up there to get these images......:costum:

Can you go to the moon in FSX?


http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_368.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_370.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_367.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_369.jpg

delta_lima
August 28th, 2012, 17:38
Nice shots!

I really, really like the orbiter-NASA paint - it's just fantastic.

Wondering if anyone else is thinking what I'm thinking: a rocket powered test aircraft. Wondering if I can string together a short-duration "rocket" motor (I understand FSX doesn't do them properly) with just a couple minutes worth of fuel - along the lines of the X-24A mod from Piglet and recently Lazarus. Maybe borrow the exhaust from that model, and a short-duration fuel supply. Maybe borrow some bits from the the Xtreme Prototype X-15 .... or from Piglet's own Orion Clipper ...

Conceptually, if the XB-70 had been kept around for a few years, it could ostensibly have been a launch platform, just as it was envisioned for a delta-winged X-15 aircraft that was conceived to follow up the original 3 airframes ... product family progression to have followed as per the following ...


http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/serjx15c.jpg


http://www.astronautix.com/graphics/z/zx15b70.jpg

For those familiar with Martin Schweiger's fantastic freeware Orbiter sim, this addon was created to simulate exactly what I describe ... it's as much fun you can lawfully have in a pressure suite ... http://www.gregburch.net/orbiter/X-15D.html

So, back to the XA-12, and Tommie's crew return vehicle idea - this model could work well, if I can figure out a suitable propulsion system. You could either slew up to around FL450, like the typical X-15 launches, or maybe the concept would be a runway launch - with a really long (likely 5-min plus fuel duration) to go from runway to around FL2500 or higher, and at high (Mach 4+) speeds ... partial reentry test flights, flying the HAC to land at X68 at the Cape ... ahh, the possibilities.

Final paint question: I think I know the answer (likely no) - but would there be a way to manipulate the canopy texture in order to partially "enclose" the bubble canopy for a more "thermal" resistant design? The idea in my head is again, from yet another Orbiter addon, the fantastic XR5 Ravenstar, a concept vehicle set in the mid 21st century ....

http://www.orbithangar.com/addonpics/XR2_sfcnILL.jpg

Possibly not doable - but thought I'd ask.

Anyway, I'll poke about with propulsive ideas - and see what I come up with. But to Jafo and Tommie - a huge thanks.

DL

Jafo
August 28th, 2012, 18:42
Tommy's NASA paint is great....I can't even think of a way to add to it. It just looks right as-is.

I'll give the 'Dorito' a go...... might end up looking like Spongebob Triangular pants tho....;)

tommieboy
August 28th, 2012, 19:09
......but would there be a way to manipulate the canopy texture in order to partially "enclose" the bubble canopy for a more "thermal" resistant design?.....

I tried to do that (for a "drone" version of my NASA repaint) but couldn't figure it out; no matter how much a messed with the color of the canopy and the alpha channel, I couldn't get an opaque canopy. I'll have another look-see to see if I overlooked something simple.

Looking forward to new propulsion system if you can figure one out. I would prefer a maglev rail for the initial shot into space.......:costum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maglifter2.jpg

Jafo
August 28th, 2012, 19:10
OK...here's a go at it....

71670.......[don't laugh]...;)

Edit...

Loaded into my layers....

Only thing to do now is to work out which airforce to 'blame' it on...;)

71675

tommieboy
August 28th, 2012, 19:15
OK...here's a go at it....

71670.......[don't laugh]...;)

So is that Cool Ranch or Nacho Cheese?.....:icon_lol:

Tommy

delta_lima
August 28th, 2012, 19:38
Hey Tommie!

Amazing how like minds think at times ... scary! I thought about more after posting and realized there's also the "how-this-will-look-from-the-VC" question - maybe solidifying parts of the transparency is just not doable. If it can be, it'd be pretty cool, though.

Even if not, I'd like to see how to figure out how to do the propulsion. Maybe it's an air-breathing engine (as is) - but with the inclusion of a ramjet/liquid rocket booster motor effect (and resultant speed increase) that's triggered by the afterburner. The flight characteristics may be seriously wonk ... but it could be a sort of X-24 Dynasoar meets antipodal bomber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silbervogel) type of craft ... possibilities...

Jafo - all you some serious lumpy bump maps to give that texture the 'TEXTURE' it deserves ... :icon_lol: Fun stuff all ...

DL

Jafo
August 28th, 2012, 20:04
I think the only way to alter the canopy would be with MDLMat ...and change the properties of the model.

The Avenger doesn't have bump mapping ... so all that can be done is some 'faking' with the trans layer...;)
Here's another great one by Tommieboy.... imported into my layers. It'd need more tweaking for alignments re text etc. but it's certainly more efficient than pushing each of every 16 million pixels in a 4096 res...;)

71680

tommieboy
August 28th, 2012, 22:25
......there's also the "how-this-will-look-from-the-VC" ....

With a totally opaque canopy, you (as a passenger) would only see this signage on the interior side of the VC:


If you are close enough to read this,
you are in some serious #@%$


Seriously, by the time you have to abandon ship (the space station), things can't be all that good....:blind:

Tommy

tommieboy
August 28th, 2012, 22:45
.....
Here's another great one by Tommieboy....

71680


Wow, I really struggled with the graphic layout on this one. It's bothered me enough, that I was thinking of revisiting the graphic layout on this scheme too. I didn't think you would bother with this one, but it's nice to see someone likes it enough to give it some additional TLC.

Tommy

Jafo
August 29th, 2012, 03:41
Wow, I really struggled with the graphic layout on this one. It's bothered me enough, that I was thinking of revisiting the graphic layout on this scheme too. I didn't think you would bother with this one, but it's nice to see someone likes it enough to give it some additional TLC.

Tommy

Tommy .... I prefer the red/white one graphically, but it was that and this one that sparked my interest.
It's virtually a 5 second job ...chucking it in as a layer but TLC will mean revising text locations and the odd alignment or two....but I think otherwise less-is-more and I shouldn't add too much BS to it...;)

Edit...
Here I've put a little TLC in....aligned the blue/white border to exact 45 deg ... makes the white a bit thinner tho... and stuff like the Aussie flag is refined to high res. Deleted much of the extraneous stuff...logos etc. even softened my lines....

Probably need advice from the 'boss' though...like keeping [or not] the RAAF badge, etc....;)

71699

Oh...and the weather has come in.... [using REX for YMML [where I am]]...;p

dvj
August 29th, 2012, 06:00
Best of the lot IMO

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/226Untitled_1.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/946sundowners.jpg

dvj
August 29th, 2012, 06:08
Tommy's NASA paint is great....I can't even think of a way to add to it. It just looks right as-is.

I'll give the 'Dorito' a go...... might end up looking like Spongebob Triangular pants tho....;)

The x-15 model perhaps looks a little too clean?

Jafo
August 29th, 2012, 06:29
The black NASA one was pre-dirt/weathering....and also not in my layering....but it's on the 'to-do' list.

Meanwhile....we can blame the RAAF.....[still WIP]

71700

Jafo
August 29th, 2012, 18:40
I put my black NASA through the mangle ....and scruffed it up a little. Curiously the Dorito's trans layer almost works....

71722

dvj
August 29th, 2012, 19:01
I put my black NASA through the mangle ....and scruffed it up a little. Curiously the Dorito's trans layer almost works....

71722


'Almost' is the key word here. :icon_lol:

Jafo
August 29th, 2012, 19:47
Maybe a bit more than 'almost' ..... now ....;)

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Jafo
August 30th, 2012, 17:56
The Avenger II is ostensibly a 'stealth aircraft'.....so....

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That's just blank 'pink' loaded into the layers ....;)

tommieboy
August 30th, 2012, 18:57
The Avenger II is ostensibly a 'stealth aircraft'.....so....

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That's just blank 'pink' loaded into the layers ....;)

That reminds me of PAPADOC's "pink flamingo" repaint for ED's Su-27 flight simulator.....:cool:

I loved that flight simulator, but got tired of flying over the same old very limited area of Russia.

Tommy

tommieboy
August 30th, 2012, 19:12
More repaints that I found sitting in my repaint "trash bin" gathering dust......

This image below was user requested mod; he wanted the red / white stripes removed from my RAAF repaint. In retrospect, the user had a better eye for design than I did at the time. I like it......now; it's clean and simple. Now I see what he saw.

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_316.jpg

The image below is based on the P-51 Mustang - Millie "G"; I didn't get to far with this one.

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_314.jpg

The image below was based on the template that I use for the Millie "G" as shown above. This was one of the my first RAAF repaints, but I never warmed up to it. It looks better now that it has been sitting in the trash bin for quite a while.....

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Etommieboy/A12_315.jpg

Tommy

Jafo
August 30th, 2012, 20:49
Tommy...the first one looks a little too plain.....maybe I just like stripes..... but that third one is cool.
Asymetry is always preferable [it's an Architectural thing]...though back in the seventies it was "Black is Architectural"....we were always humming...."I see a red door and I want it painted black...."...;)

Looking at it again...is the junction between light and dark actually a curve or is that the model perspective?

Edit....it's perspective....
couple of clicks and.....
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tommieboy
August 30th, 2012, 22:10
Tommy...the first one looks a little too plain.....maybe I just like stripes..... but that third one is cool.
Asymetry is always preferable [it's an Architectural thing]...though back in the seventies it was "Black is Architectural"....we were always humming...."I see a red door and I want it painted black...."...;)

Looking at it again...is the junction between light and dark actually a curve or is that the model perspective?


The first one has really grown on me; I have reloaded it into FSX as one of my go-to repaints.

The second one (the Millie "G") was shelved because of my lack of exposed metal painting skills. Now that I have completed my Martin Mars Barrier Reef Airways repaint I have a better understanding of what is involved.

The last one does look a lot better to me now than when I originally shelved it.

Tommy

Jafo
August 31st, 2012, 18:52
Time to move on from pink things...and get a little more 'real'....
Here's a 335 Sqn 'Chiefs' inspired by Vietnam-vintage Thuds....as always more to do....

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Edit.... finished ....now with the TAC bolt emblem.

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71859 ....now it's done...;)

Jafo
September 1st, 2012, 22:28
Camo....again Vietnam-inspired/vintage.....slowly getting all the 'bits' into individual layers.....

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tommieboy
September 2nd, 2012, 06:29
Camo....again Vietnam-inspired/vintage.....slowly getting all the 'bits' into individual layers.....

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Both of those Vietnam-inspired/vintage repaints look cool; especially the camo......:cool:

Just one thought though.....Like your X-15 repaint, the 777 / JJ occur at both wing tips, and it might look better??? if you flipped the text at both wing tips so the text reads up right when face outwards. It's a tough call with the shape of this bird.

Tommy

Jafo
September 2nd, 2012, 07:22
Both of those Vietnam-inspired/vintage repaints look cool; especially the camo......:cool:

Just one thought though.....Like your X-15 repaint, the 777 / JJ occur at both wing tips, and it might look better??? if you flipped the text at both wing tips so the text reads up right when face outwards. It's a tough call with the shape of this bird.

Tommy
Tommy...it's easy to swap....
here it is reversed.... and knocked up the trans a little on some layers.....34th TFS ....

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I have 3 layers for levels of crud....this is the cruddiest...;)

tommieboy
September 2nd, 2012, 09:42
Tommy...it's easy to swap....
here it is reversed.... and knocked up the trans a little on some layers.....34th TFS ....

71941


I have 3 layers for levels of crud....this is the cruddiest...;)

Looks real good......the only thing missing from that repaint is the smell of sweat in the cockpit.....:cool:
I wonder if there are any Vietnam U.S. airbases for FSX?

Tommy

Jafo
September 2nd, 2012, 17:05
Looks real good......the only thing missing from that repaint is the smell of sweat in the cockpit.....:cool:
I wonder if there are any Vietnam U.S. airbases for FSX?

Tommy

Tommy....

http://vietnamwar.project.free.fr/ ...;)

tommieboy
September 2nd, 2012, 18:04
Tommy....

http://vietnamwar.project.free.fr/ ...;)

Thanks for the link.....

Tommy

tommieboy
September 2nd, 2012, 18:15
Jafo,

I'm going to release the two RAAF repaints that are shown on the previous page after all. It's that or trash them for good, as I have to clean out my hard drive for new stuff that I want to bring on board. I tweaked the one with the white wing tip just a bit and I like what I see now. I think it can now hold its own against the red / white RAF repaint that I previously released.

As far as the Millie "G" goes, I may take a crack at this one with some exposed metal skin, now that I have the Alphasim / Virtavia Martin Mars Barrier Reef Airways repaint under my belt. That might take a while to figure out this one though.

Tommy

Jafo
September 2nd, 2012, 19:14
Tommy....looking forward to those...;)

Here's the Chiefs 335th with the TAC logo and serial turned around.... kinda starting to agree that's the way to go with them....

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I quite like the metal finish now I'm using the mottled trans from the Dorito...;)

tommieboy
September 2nd, 2012, 19:21
Tommy....looking forward to those...;)

Here's the Chiefs 335th with the TAC logo and serial turned around.... kinda starting to agree that's the way to go with them....

71978

I quite like the metal finish now I'm using the mottled trans from the Dorito...;)

Vapor effects??? Must be monsoon season.

I've also used photos of clouds for my mottled trans effects too.

Tommy

Jafo
September 3rd, 2012, 20:22
The "Flying Doritos" SQN [I'll need to make up a badge....currently it's the 34th TFS].....
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Jafo
September 4th, 2012, 17:27
Avenger II of the [fake] 355th SQN 'CHIPS' Flying Doritos no. DO-123 [AF95-123] has been submitted here. [just for fun].

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The logo....
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tommieboy
September 4th, 2012, 18:53
Avenger II of the [fake] 355th SQN 'CHIPS' Flying Doritos no. DO-123 [AF95-123] has been submitted here. [just for fun].

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The logo....
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I'll add this repaint to my collection.....I like the patch too!

No doubt there will be a lot of competition between the "Cool Ranch" and the "Nacho Cheese" factions within this unit....:cool:

Tommy

tommieboy
September 4th, 2012, 19:17
AVAILABLE NOW!

TEXTURES ONLY.......

Available on avsim.com; search for:

a-12a_avenger_ii_fsx_raaf_3.0.zip

I was not really satisfied with my previous RAAF releases as I always felt they needed a better graphic solution to hang with the big boys. I just could not nail it down. But this one (retrieved from my repaint trash bin) can now hold its own against the RAF repaint. I'm really really happy with this one. I've also included a stripped down version that was a user requested mod. I really like it too; it's clean and simple.

Tommy

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A-12_272.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A-12_277.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A-12_276.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A-12_274.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A-12_283.jpg

Jafo
September 4th, 2012, 20:33
AVAILABLE NOW!

TEXTURES ONLY.......

Available on avsim.com; search for:

a-12a_avenger_ii_fsx_raaf_3.0.zip

I was not really satisfied with my previous RAAF releases as I always felt they needed a better graphic solution to hang with the big boys. I just could not nail it down. But this one (retrieved from my repaint trash bin) can now hold its own against the RAF repaint. I'm really really happy with this one. I've also included a stripped down version that was a user requested mod. I really like it too; it's clean and simple.

Tommy

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A-12_272.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A-12_277.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A-12_276.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A-12_274.jpg

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A-12_283.jpg

I'll grab this one for sure.....I do like that two-tone...;)

Jafo
September 4th, 2012, 21:16
Imported into the layers....and got a bit dirty.....

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This one's a keeper....looks just 'right' ...;)

tommieboy
September 4th, 2012, 22:09
Imported into the layers....and got a bit dirty.....

Wouldn't want to be on the crew that has to clean that one before the airshow......:isadizzy:

Jafo
September 5th, 2012, 04:17
Wouldn't want to be on the crew that has to clean that one before the airshow......:isadizzy:

OK....got "the guys" to give it a wash.....

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cheezyflier
September 5th, 2012, 12:43
OK...here's a go at it....

71670.......[don't laugh]...;)

Edit...

Loaded into my layers....

Only thing to do now is to work out which airforce to 'blame' it on...;)

71675

dude, that's so cool, i don't even have the words!

delta_lima
September 5th, 2012, 13:07
dude, that's so cool, i don't even have the words!

With that handle, this repaint was without question, destined for you .... :icon_lol:

Nice job on these repaints. I'm sure Tim had no idea this model would spawn as many ideas and schemes as have materialised .... cool!

DL

Jafo
September 6th, 2012, 07:10
34th TFS 'Rude Rams' JJ-777 lifting off at YMML - Vietnam-vintage inspired....uploading shortly....;)

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Sundog
September 6th, 2012, 14:52
Your Vietnam Scheme isn't that far afield. Check out the paint scheme on the GD "Sneaky Pete" design in the lower left hand of this photo.

http://www.codeonemagazine.com/images/media/ATF_Evol_part1_11_1267828237_1659.JPG

tommieboy
September 6th, 2012, 19:30
Hummmmm.....seems to be an old classified photo from the old Soviet skunk works.....the bird looks familiar.....strange......

Tommy

http://home.roadrunner.com/~tommieboy/A12_237.jpg