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mvg3d
July 28th, 2011, 02:31
Hi Friends,
I'm still finishing the new textures for the external model, how You can see in the screens the classic mid/late production Macchi's "smokerings" camouflage scheme is veeeery complicate.......
The external model is almost finished, it still needs some adjustments.....
I think I'll begin the VC after the summer holydays......
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_3_01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_3_02.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_3_03.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_3_04.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_3_05.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_3_06.jpg

:salute::salute::salute::salute:

Discus
July 28th, 2011, 05:44
:jawdrop: Really stuning!!

voyager
July 28th, 2011, 12:58
Beautiful!!!!

voyager

wbuchart
July 28th, 2011, 13:23
The Italians really designed some beautiful planes during World War 2, and this is one of them. The screen shots look fantastic. Can't wait to get in the cockpit of this one...:applause:

kelticheart
July 28th, 2011, 15:01
WOW!!!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Would it be too much hoping in a C.200 and a C.205 after this beauty?.......:redface:

Cheers!
KH :ernae:

Pips
July 28th, 2011, 15:04
Poetry in motion. :)

misson
July 28th, 2011, 17:25
MAGNIFICO!!!!

peperez
July 28th, 2011, 21:36
a MC 205N Orione!

fani
July 29th, 2011, 00:27
Complimenti Manuele, speriamo che questo nuovo capolavoro sia facilmente convertibile in CFS2.

mvg3d
July 29th, 2011, 00:53
WOW!!!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Would it be too much hoping in a C.200 and a C.205 after this beauty?.......:redface:

Cheers!
KH :ernae:

Hi Keltik,
Yes, a '205 will follow the '202 release (I hope I'll finish before 11/30).
I have also the Pietro Zazzetta's '200 CFS source file, but it needs a lot of work and I don't think I'll start before mid 2012.......
:salute::salute::salute::salute:

mvg3d
July 29th, 2011, 00:55
a MC 205N Orione!
Hi Pepe,
Sorry, but I don't think I'll make the ORIONE, only one was built and the conversion is too difficult (the '205N had different wings, fuselage and other details)......
:frown:

skylane
July 29th, 2011, 22:49
What a beauiful airplane!! Canīt wait to get it!

peperez
July 31st, 2011, 04:51
Hi Pepe,
Sorry, but I don't think I'll make the ORIONE, only one was built and the conversion is too difficult (the '205N had different wings, fuselage and other details)......
:frown:

In true, more than one was built. The N1 had four Breda Safat 12.7mm around the cowling complementing a 20mm cannon firing from the engining axle and the N2 had three 20mm and two Breda Safat over the cowling. It was suposed to be the DEFINITIVE MC 205 version. To be truthfull, the MC 205 had a mediocre high altitude performance (was a fantastic low and medium altitude fighter).

I think the MC 205N deserves a place at simulation world. I already did a correct airfile for it and its performance is a lot superior to MC 205V one excepting speed. It was slower.

Cheers

Pepe

peperez
July 31st, 2011, 04:53
Could you generate a CFS 2 or FS 2002 version of your fantastic CR 42? It's the only one, including paywares, with correct forms.

Cheers

Pepe

Strafing_run
July 31st, 2011, 04:55
Very, very nice work there :applause:

misson
July 31st, 2011, 09:04
The Italians really designed some beautiful planes during World War 2, and this is one of them. The screen shots look fantastic. Can't wait to get in the cockpit of this one...:applause:

Looking at the architecture, clothing, machines such as airplanes, cars etc, we see that the Italians have good taste, design and incredible communion with the machine. I admire the Italians for this, I'm not Italian or of Italian descent.:applause:

kelticheart
August 1st, 2011, 13:50
Hi Keltik,
Yes, a '205 will follow the '202 release (I hope I'll finish before 11/30).
I have also the Pietro Zazzetta's '200 CFS source file, but it needs a lot of work and I don't think I'll start before mid 2012.......
:salute::salute::salute::salute:

Manuele,

this is great news indeed! Thank you very much! Yours will be the only MC.200 available, together with the very old IS4G's model and the FS9 model by K. Ito. Quite a neglected bird!
:medals::medals:

:jump:



Besides, I'll second Pepe's comments about your CR.42, which, for some unfortunate reason, does not convert very well to CFS2.

Cheers!
Stefano :ernae:

misson
August 1st, 2011, 15:25
Manuele,

this is great news indeed! Thank you very much! Yours will be the only MC.200 available, together with the very old IS4G's model and the FS9 model by K. Ito. Quite a neglected bird!
:medals::medals:

:jump:



Besides, I'll second Pepe's comments about your CR.42, which, for some unfortunate reason, does not convert very well to CFS2.

Cheers!
Stefano :ernae:


i have this converted from capt giovani quai

mvg3d
August 12th, 2011, 03:55
Hi Friends,
These are some screenshots before the summer vacations......
I just finished the external base textures and the first livery for a 7th series mid production aircraft (Major Andrea Favini, 153rd Gruppo Autonomo CT's commander, M.M.9083, based at Sciacca during September 1942)......
The external model is almost finished, it needs only some retouches, I'll start with the VC when I'll back at office (September 12).

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_4_01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_4_02.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_4_03.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_4_04.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_4_05.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_4_06.jpg

:salute::salute::salute::salute:

wbuchart
September 19th, 2011, 15:33
Looking at the architecture, clothing, machines such as airplanes, cars etc, we see that the Italians have good taste, design and incredible communion with the machine. I admire the Italians for this, I'm not Italian or of Italian descent.:applause:


Misson, I agree. I did not mean to imply the Italians only made beautiful things during World War 2. They've made beautiful things before and after as well. I'd love to go there someday on a vacation.....

Naismith
September 19th, 2011, 15:38
Beautiful looking birds. The Italians had a flair for designing pretty aircraft then, oddly enough in aircraft of that era the flair for design seems to have deserted the French, since recovered in the jet age of course (before I get flamed). Phew! cool recovery there. lol

SPman
September 19th, 2011, 21:58
The Italians had a flair for designing pretty aircraft then, oddly enough in aircraft of that era the flair for design seems to have deserted the French,Oh, I don't know....those 'tween the wars French planes had an odd sort of Gallic "charm"...

wbuchart
October 9th, 2011, 13:42
:bump::bump::bump::bump:

Devildog73
October 10th, 2011, 01:30
mvg3d,
Absolutely stunning work!

I cannot wait to get in it myself! I could see a few MTO missions coming forth with that one flying around!

DD

mvg3d
November 11th, 2011, 04:36
Hi Friends,
I'm finishing the VC.......
I just sent the BETA version to Stefano Meneghini for the gauges last check.
I'm still waiting for the sounds from OBIO.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_VC_01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_VC_02.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_VC_03.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_VC_04.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_VC_05.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/mvg3d/202_205_WIP/202_MVG_WIP_VC_06.jpg

:salute::salute::salute::salute:

sc7500
November 11th, 2011, 05:12
.... Your attention to detail is AMAZING !

Great Work, MVG ! :applause:

Thank you
SC
:kilroy:

Rami
November 11th, 2011, 18:52
Good evening,

I agree, the screenshots look spectacular. I also find this aircraft interesting for another reason. Not only was it the relative equal of the Spitfire Mk. V and the Messerschmitt Bf-109f, Mario Castoldi (the designer) actually foresaw this in the original design, and it was only a compromise that the Macchi Mc-200 (Saetta) came into being, because the license-built Daimler-Benz 600-series engine was not ready.

Castoldi also had an interesting technique to counteract propeller torque...he extended the left wing of both the Saetta and the Folgore some 21 centimeters, (about 8.5 inches) which went a long way toward solving the problem.

wolfi
November 12th, 2011, 02:40
Good work, I love the virtual cockpit!...

I'm looking forward to fly this beautifull aircraft

wolfi

OBIO
December 19th, 2011, 22:03
Manuelle has been sending me updates on the 202...and it looks great! There is some still work to do on gauges and flight dynamics. I have no idea when the plane will be released. Here are screen shots of the two variants...the early production model with 2 guns and the mid-production model with 4 guns.

OBIO5467954680546815468254683

Devildog73
December 20th, 2011, 01:03
Most excellent mvg3d! Bravo!

And I love the photo of your "honey" on the panel! Nice touch.

Jagdflieger
December 20th, 2011, 13:22
Superlative! Ausgezeichnet! Superlativo!

Wulf190
December 22nd, 2011, 17:41
Excellent!

Oglivie
December 22nd, 2011, 17:58
Very, Very Nice, mvg3d!

mvg3d
December 28th, 2011, 01:26
Hi Friends,
A Christmas Gift.......
I just uploaded the C.202 here at SOH.......

CREDITS:
Original CFS3 GMAX model by Pietro Zazzetta (Italianwings).
CFS3/FS9 conversion, upgrades and models modifications by Manuele Villa.
VC rebuild (where necessary) and all animations by Manuele Villa.
Original External textures (Skins) by Manuele Villa.
Original VC textures by Alessandro Biagi (Italianwings) & Manuele Villa.
Paints by Manuele Villa.
Paintkit by Manuele Villa.
Prop textures by Bob Rivera.
Flight dynamics by Manuele Villa & Kikko Zanaboni
Sounds by Tim Dement (OBIO),Stefano Meneghini (PCMENEG) and Manuele Villa (MVG3D).
Gauges: many of the Italian gauges in this panel were created from scratch or radically modified from freeware items by Manuele Villa and Stefano Meneghini (PCMENEG,really FANTASTIC His bullet counters !!!), other are MS default gauges and from Doug Dawson (dsd_xml_sound3.gau).Bitmaps for some gauges by A.Biagi(ItalianWings).
Aircraft descriptions and history by Wikipedia,revised & updated by Umberto Sciacchetano and Manuele Villa.
Translations by Umberto Sciacchetano.
Color Profiles (in the paintkit use guide) by Angelo Brioschi.

SPECIAL THANKS To
Mr.Pietro Zazzetta & Mr.Alessandro Biagi (Italianwings), Mr.Kikko Zanaboni, Mr.S.Meneghini, Mr.Tim Dement, Mr.U.Sciacchetano, Mr.A.Brioschi and to my Greek friend Mr.N.Daskalakis for their precious help. A Very special thanks to ALL the Sim-Outhouse members for their support and suggestions.

:salute::salute::salute::salute:

Discus
December 28th, 2011, 03:25
Thanks a lot for this stunning aircraft mvg3d!!
:jump:
Discus

Rami
December 28th, 2011, 03:44
What an amazing job!! :ernae:

Thanks!:salute:

Ian Astill
December 28th, 2011, 08:59
Are there plans for a CFS2 version????

Sascha66
December 28th, 2011, 13:16
...Christmas!

Thank you very much for releasing this as freeware!

Sascha

misson
December 28th, 2011, 14:27
Are there plans for a CFS2 version????

wonderfull work! and u can convert it!

Wulf190
December 28th, 2011, 15:22
wonderfull work! and u can convert it!

But it doesn't look like the gauges will show in the VC.

misson
December 28th, 2011, 15:57
But it doesn't look like the gauges will show in the VC.

allways there are not a Full convertion, that pictures iam showing , come from a quick convertion, u need to rebuild the panel with new gauges, and i used the dp from the mc202 folgore . any one can make his own convertion! and his own panel! :icon_lol:

Ian Astill
December 29th, 2011, 08:50
Unfortunately I can't get mdlc to work on my 64 bit system and sandbox won't do it either so unless someone would be so kind as to prepare a model for me it looks like i will have to look but not touch

misson
December 29th, 2011, 12:29
Unfortunately I can't get mdlc to work on my 64 bit system and sandbox won't do it either so unless someone would be so kind as to prepare a model for me it looks like i will have to look but not touch

sendme your mail , and ill send u a model converted !:wavey:

vidal
December 31st, 2011, 08:24
Hello. I have convertde the beast for cfs2 .. but all the textures are black when I run CFS2. Any idea ?
Thanks.

Ian Astill
December 31st, 2011, 10:07
Sounds like you need to convert the textures to 565 with Martin Wrights DXT BMP utility

sc7500
January 1st, 2012, 09:34
...I have converted the beast for cfs2 .. but all the textures are black when I run CFS2. Any idea ?..

This happened to me when I converted my copy last week.

I switched the textures to DXT1 [No Alpha] and the colors came back....

SC
:kilroy:

vidal
January 2nd, 2012, 08:34
Thank tou both. I will try it as soon as possible.
Cheers.

voyager
January 3rd, 2012, 10:04
Anyone else getting "funny" wing tips after converting it to CFS2? They get thicker and the cross section is flatter and not streamlined. The white wingtip skins show it because they no longer fit properly.

voyager

misson
January 3rd, 2012, 13:47
But it doesn't look like the gauges will show in the VC.


Here u got!


[Window Titles]
Window00=No 2D panel
Window01=GPS cheat mode
Window02=Radio

[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=NO_PANEL,GPS_PANEL,RADIO_STAC K_PANEL
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=11.000, 0.000, 0.000

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=800
position=0
visible=0
ident=NO_PANEL
window_size= 0.010, 0.010
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=267,200
position=2
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500, 0,0,267,200

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=305,240
position=2
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
gauge00=737-400!Comm 1, 3,199,95

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$C202_gauges_1
gauge00=italian_alt, 0,799,200,225
gauge01=italian_airspeed, 302,0,302,302
gauge02=italian_rpm1, 0,0,302,302
gauge03=italian_gyro, 603,0,256,256
gauge04=italian_vertspd, 200,694,256,256
gauge05=iTtempolio_1, 0,302,256,256
gauge06=iTpressolio_1, 256,302,400,392
gauge07=italian_oil, 656,512,256,256
gauge08=iTpresscar_1, 656,256,256,256
gauge09=C202_MVG!mvg_ita_incendio, 859,0,165,165
gauge10=Fsd.He111.Pitot, 0,560,40,40
gauge11=Me109_Instr!Oil_Coolant_Temp, 656,768,256,256
gauge12=C202_MVG!pcmeneg_generator_light, 80,560,40,40
gauge13=C202_MVG!pcmeneg_fuelpump_light, 40,560,40,40
gauge14=shockwave_lights!SW Lights, 1,1,1,1

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$C202_gauges_2
gauge00=C202_MVG!mvg_marilu, 511,0,185,246
gauge01=C202_MVG!GPS_Icon, 861,60,50,50
gauge02=C202_MVG!Kneeboard_Icon, 811,10,50,50
gauge03=C202_MVG!Map_Icon, 761,60,50,50
gauge04=C202_MVG!mvg_sight, 0,295,256,256
gauge05=extra-300.wiskey-compass, 696,118,328,394
gauge06=italian_fuel, 256,375,256,256
gauge07=C202_MVG!mvg_ita_pfreni_1, 0,722,302,302
gauge08=C202_MVG!mvg_ita_pbombola, 256,0,256,256
gauge09=C202_MVG!mvg_oxygen, 855,512,169,166
gauge10=C202_MVG!mvg_flames, 1,1,1,1
gauge11=JWB.analog_canv, 560,859,156,165
gauge12=italian_turn, 0,552,117,117
gauge13=C202_MVG!pcmeneg_SS_attitude, 0,0,256,283
gauge14=C202_MVG!Radio_Icon, 711,10,50,50
gauge15=C202_MVG!ATC_Icon, 911,10,50,50
gauge16=Bucc.G-Meter, 302,768,256,256
gauge17=Me109_Instr!Landing_Indicator, 118,552,105,105
gauge18=dsd_xml_sound3!dsd_xml_sound3, 2,2,5,5, .\Gauges\C202_MVG_127gunsound.ini
//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$C202_LABELS
gauge00=C202_MVG!mvg_202_labels, 0,0,1024,1024

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8192
SIZE_Y=6143