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noddy
July 11th, 2011, 04:28
Thankfully both pilots escaped.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-14101641

TomSteber
July 11th, 2011, 05:50
Thankfully, everyone Ok, but no more "Big Beautiful Doll". That part is sad.

kilo delta
July 11th, 2011, 06:54
Some zoomed in shots of the collision here...

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showpost.php?p=1772315&postcount=226

HorusJ
July 11th, 2011, 07:13
What the Hell is going on!?!:isadizzy:
It has been a rough few weeks for warbirds and vintage types.Is the world coming to a end?!?
I'm very happy no one was hurt.

J

TARPSBird
July 11th, 2011, 14:28
I'm glad nobody was injured. Too bad about the Mustang but it's not like they're on the warbird "endangered species" list yet. Looks like they were doing some sort of climbing break from the formation and somebody lost the bubble.

mrogers
July 11th, 2011, 15:09
It's good that the pilots are ok, but unfortunate about the Mustang.. It looks like human error unfortunately.

PeteHam
July 11th, 2011, 15:30
A Kiwi friend of mine is over there at present ( he's a display pilot and had a choice of aircraft including Mustang or Kittyhawk to fly there ).

I'm glad the pilots are OK, don't know who the Mustang pilot is.

It's a sharp reminder that display flying , especially formation work requires the utmost vigilance and discipline.

Pete.

Railrunner130
July 11th, 2011, 15:42
I'm glad nobody was hurt. Duxford is the place to have an accident like that. I'm sure that Mustang will either be rebuilt or will live on as parts of other Mustangs.

Allen
July 11th, 2011, 19:05
From all the pics I seen it looks like the 51 was not damaged even after being hit but may somthing inside the tail broke or jammed...

robert41
July 11th, 2011, 19:17
Here is a pretty good video. http://www.flyingfilm.co.uk/

N324JK
July 11th, 2011, 19:32
Seems as though these things come in threes. A few weeks ago, the B-17 "Liberty Belle" crashed not too far from where I live - fortunately, everyone survived. Now this. And didn't we lose another warbird a week or two ago? Truly saddened by this loss - I have a model of Big Beautiful Doll, and now it looks like I'll never see her fly again.

Well said about demo flying - looks great, but you have to pay attention and know what you're doing. Not at all for the faint of heart.

HouseHobbit
July 11th, 2011, 22:35
WOW!! :icon_eek:

The Mustang took quite a Hit, and the Skyraider loss some wing..
Bummer..:isadizzy:

I am Grateful that No one was Killed..
Thank God..:applause:
The crash of the Mustang is a Big Loss, such a pity..:crybaby:

AndyG43
July 11th, 2011, 23:36
A Kiwi friend of mine is over there at present ( he's a display pilot and had a choice of aircraft including Mustang or Kittyhawk to fly there ).

I'm glad the pilots are OK, don't know who the Mustang pilot is.

It's a sharp reminder that display flying , especially formation work requires the utmost vigilance and discipline.

Pete.

As per my earlier post in another thread (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?55372-Sea-Fire-gear-up-landing........), the pilot was Rob Da (http://www.simplyplanes.co.uk/rob_davies_mustang_pilot.shtml)vies, former owner of Big Beautiful Doll.

Allen
July 12th, 2011, 10:56
Add one Fokker to the Duxford crash list....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013821/Nose-dive-Pilot-lands-World-War-One-Fokker-plane-propellor-gust-wind-scuppers-display.html

Wing_Z
July 12th, 2011, 13:28
Here is a pretty good video. http://www.flyingfilm.co.uk/It sure is, now you can see exactly what happened.
The Skyraider was pulling as hard as he could... not enough.
Good job Mr Davies managed to get the chute open.
Good job Mr Davies had a chute to open.

EDIT: Looking at the slo-mo, you can see he popped the canopy in preparation, immediately after he was clipped.
Then he stayed with it until very late in the piece.
Very cool performance.

GT182
July 12th, 2011, 15:12
Sad loss of a P-51. Glad to hear both pilots survived, tho injured. Big Beautiful Doll was a regular at MAAM's WWII Weekend every year.

From the looks of that last video link it was the fault of the Skyraider. Still a shame and should not have happened at all.

TeaSea
July 12th, 2011, 16:42
As long as you have the aircraft's data plate.....you still have the aircraft.

Plenty of warbirds flying around (and regular GA aircraft too) that were just data plates and not much more at one time.

Bomber_12th
July 12th, 2011, 18:06
Following Gary's post, and so that there is no confusion on which specific Mustang it was that was part of the incident on Sunday....

The "Big Beautiful Doll" that was at Duxford and destroyed, was not the only airworthy "BBD" in the world - there is another, completely different P-51D painted as "Big Beautiful Doll", operating here in the U.S. as well, for many years now. For those in the states, it is the U.S.-based example which you are familiar with seeing, not the example that has been destroyed.

See here:

U.S. -based "Big Beautiful Doll" (a regular at Oshkosh):
http://mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/p51survivors/pages/44-63634.php

Former U.K. -based, recently German -based, "Big Beautiful Doll" which was part of the Duxford incident:
http://mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/p51survivors/pages/A68-192.php
(http://mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/p51survivors/pages/A68-192.php)
And TeaSea, you have it very correct! With the value in newly-built/restored Mustangs today, reaching the $2-3 million mark, easily, and the way in which various companies can build you a brand-new P-51D, around an original data-plate (or even just paperwork), means that it will be highly likely that a P-51D will be flying in the future, with the same serial number/identity, though the amount of the original contained, will all depend on what can be salvaged and re-used. As such, don't be surprised if several years down the road, you see 'this aircraft' flying again!

Again, thank God, that such a fine pilot and gentleman as Rob Davies, made it out okay! Planes, even when written-off, have a habit of being reborn to fly again. The same cannot be said about the men that fly them.

Terry
July 13th, 2011, 03:30
There is a tribute to BBD at planeaday.com today.

AndyG43
July 13th, 2011, 04:09
Following Gary's post, and so that there is no confusion on which specific Mustang it was that was part of the incident on Sunday....

The "Big Beautiful Doll" that was at Duxford and destroyed, was not the only airworthy "BBD" in the world - there is another, completely different P-51D painted as "Big Beautiful Doll", operating here in the U.S. as well, for many years now. For those in the states, it is the U.S.-based example which you are familiar with seeing, not the example that has been destroyed.

See here:

U.S. -based "Big Beautiful Doll" (a regular at Oshkosh):
http://mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/p51survivors/pages/44-63634.php

Former U.K. -based, recently German -based, "Big Beautiful Doll" which was part of the Duxford incident:
http://mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/p51survivors/pages/A68-192.php
(http://mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/p51survivors/pages/A68-192.php)
And TeaSea, you have it very correct! With the value in newly-built/restored Mustangs today, reaching the $2-3 million mark, easily, and the way in which various companies can build you a brand-new P-51D, around an original data-plate (or even just paperwork), means that it will be highly likely that a P-51D will be flying in the future, with the same serial number/identity, though the amount of the original contained, will all depend on what can be salvaged and re-used. As such, don't be surprised if several years down the road, you see 'this aircraft' flying again!

Again, thank God, that such a fine pilot and gentleman as Rob Davies, made it out okay! Planes, even when written-off, have a habit of being reborn to fly again. The same cannot be said about the men that fly them.

And there is a further, non airworthy, "Big Beautiful Doll" in the Imperial War Museum in London.

Wing_Z
July 13th, 2011, 12:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wLQsJS7zQOM

GT182
July 13th, 2011, 15:06
My thanks to John for correcting my assumption she was the 'BBD' from here in the US. That's a relief. Still sad tho that the 'BBD' at Duxford was lost.