Ohh looky here what I just found on my HD (part FSx) conversion

[michael davies]

Totally forgot I'd started this, very clunky by todays standards but easy to clean and smooth out, cut out intakes and cannon ports, detail landing gear etc, might have a play with it for a few days and see what pops out of the oven LOL. It'd require a new cockpit/pilot and VC but it'd be nice to see the old girl back. Got bits for a G model kicking around somewhere as well if my dim memory serves me well.

I think the F model had the most repaints of any aircraft I ever made, 20 or 30 or something bizarre like that.

Kindest

Michael

[noddy]

Always like this one in FS9, be nice to see it in FSX.

[hschuit]

Jim Domzalski made some of the best paints like this example of the 391th FBS/366th FBW, Alexandria AFB, 1952:

[Bone]

You did do some very nice paints for the F-84. There's one that comes to my mind, it's a very highly polished aluminum USAF livery. Oy, a new VC that could accomodate some guages would be awesome. :)

[FlameOut]

Looks great! An FSX version, finally! :jump:

I'd give you a :medals: and :icon29: if you could pull out the Thunder-Flash version.

[Bone]

Totally forgot I'd started this, very clunky by todays standards but easy to clean and smooth out, cut out intakes and cannon ports, detail landing gear etc, might have a play with it for a few days and see what pops out of the oven LOL. It'd require a new cockpit/pilot and VC but it'd be nice to see the old girl back. Got bits for a G model kicking around somewhere as well if my dim memory serves me well.

I think the F model had the most repaints of any aircraft I ever made, 20 or 30 or something bizarre like that.

Kindest

Michael

The reall life sistership to your screenie. Ship 877, her name's Marilyn. (That's the Spruce Goose in the background.)

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj299/theBone11/marilyn.jpg

[OBIO]

Yes, this is a wonderful bird in FS9 and an FSX native build would be equally wonderful. I would love to have a model without the pylons....just a clean plane. In both FS9 and FSX....that way I could fly the clean plane in FS9 along side the tanked version.

OBIO

[michael davies]

I'm sure there was a clean version in FS9, and a tank less one as well?, will check back but suspect all those files are long gone, were talking about a model built in 2003 now!, eight years old, amazing LOL, granted not a patch on todays fidelity, but boys is FPS good LOL.

Kindest

Michael

[Astoroth]

Michael, I'm sure I'm not the only one who will say that sometimes a plane without all the bells and whistles is just what I'm looking for. If the visual model is good, and it flies good, and I can just kick the tires, light the fires and go, sometimes thats just what I'm after. I would definately add this to my hanger.

[hschuit]

There is a sort of clean model in the "Getti Tonanti" pack from Manuele Villa, it has no tanks but the pylons are still there. It is still available on Flightsim.com: Search for file F84F_GT2.ZIP. The recce model is only available with tanks I believe.

42527 42526

[michael davies]

Michael, I'm sure I'm not the only one who will say that sometimes a plane without all the bells and whistles is just what I'm looking for. If the visual model is good, and it flies good, and I can just kick the tires, light the fires and go, sometimes thats just what I'm after. I would definately add this to my hanger.

I still think there is a place for what I call 'FS9 poly limit models' in FSx, low tech, clean shapes part XML, part modeled gauge, low buck, fun to fly models. There is a place for the in depth $50-60 model but I think there still a place for the $15-20 low tech default systems type of model.

If I finish the F-84 it'll be freeware, it'll be a basic cleaned up, a little extra detail here and there, parts smoothed, new bump maps etc, VC tarted up and some baked textures, the idea is as you suggest, a little 'lite project' you can just throw around or delete when you get bored.

Lets see happens in a few days once I have cleaned it up and see whether its worth progressing to completion. The mapping will remain the same, so all the old textures only need converting to dds to work.

Best

Michael

[skyhawka4m]

outstanding Mike! I have always said that a "light" model with kickass textures will make it to my hanger everytime. There have been a few models with the original paints looked kinda blah...but when one of the many talented artists gets their hands on it.....its an all new model to me.

[Bone]

Michael, can I talk you into adding the wings and tail structures into the VC model? I think a pilot should be able to see his plane when he looks over his shoulders....just my opinion, anyway.

I'm looking forward to it, at any rate.

[CWOJackson]

While looking at the history of this aircraft and it's derivatives, I ran across the XF-84H Thunderscreech; an F-84 fitted with turbine engine coupled to a supersonic prop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H

I particularly liked this section:

"The XF-84H was quite possibly the loudest aircraft ever built, earning the nickname "Thunderscreech" as well as the "Mighty Ear Banger".[/URL] On the ground "run ups", the prototypes could reportedly be heard 25 miles (40 km) away. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H#cite_note-12) Unlike standard propellers that turn at subsonic speeds, the outer 24–30 inches of the blades on the XF-84H's propeller traveled faster than the speed of sound even at idle thrust, producing a continuous visible sonic boom that radiated laterally from the propellers for hundreds of yards. The shock wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_boom) was actually powerful enough to knock a man down; an unfortunate crew chief who was inside a nearby C-47 was severely incapacitated during a 30-minute ground run. Coupled with the already considerable noise from the subsonic aspect of the propeller and the dual jet turbines, the aircraft was notorious for inducing severe nausea and headaches among ground crews. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H#cite_note-Wilkinson_p.1-13) In one report, a Republic engineer suffered a seizure after close range exposure to the shock waves emanating from a powered-up XF-84H."
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H#cite_note-14)

"The pervasive noise also severely disrupted operations in the Edwards AFB control tower by risking vibration damage to sensitive components and forcing air traffic personnel to communicate with the XF-84H's crew on the flight line by light signals. After numerous complaints, the Air Force Flight Test Center (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_light_signals) directed Republic to tow the aircraft out on Rogers Dry Lake, far from the flight line, before running up its engine.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H#cite_note-Hendrix_p._408-10"] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogers_Dry_Lake) The test program did not proceed further than the manufacturer's Phase I proving flights, consequently no USAF test pilots flew the XF-84H. With the likelihood that the engine and equipment failures coupled with the inability to reach design speeds and subsequent instability experienced were insurmountable problems, the USAF cancelled the program in September 1956."

I'm not even sure Piglet would want to touch that beast and who could even come close to doing the sound set.

[delta_lima]

Hello Michael,

Great news - looking forward to whatever this turns into. But, especially so if the RF photo model was to materialize ....

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GbPcI30qhvQ/TLEguks6KuI/AAAAAAAABYk/n5rIOJwOqwY/s1600/Rf84+887019.jpg

Love the old 'Flash ... :)

dl

[michael davies]

Michael, can I talk you into adding the wings and tail structures into the VC model?.

I'm looking forward to it, at any rate.

Certainly, wasn't figuring on doing anything less to be honest.

Best

Michael

[Bone]

Certainly, wasn't figuring on doing anything less to be honest.

Best

Michael

Ahh, happy to hear it.

[mal998]

Being that I grew up just a few miles away from Grumman and Republic Farmingdale it's great to see this beauty refurbished. As happenstance would have it, I just happen to drive by Republic the day that the C-5 was sitting out on the runway. It was quite a sight for sure.

Here are a few memory joggers of the glory days at Republic. I miss 'em.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/963republic225F_845000thc.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/134republic230F_84armamen.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/299republic231F_84sinflig.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/599republic242F_84Fviewof.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/697republic243RF_84Flasta.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/283republic245F_84Fprotot.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/260republic246RF_84Fweigh.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/519republic249XF_84HBldg2.jpg

[FlameOut]

Ol' pic # 5 is doing it for me Mal.
Had those babies out here at my local airport when I was a young sapling.
117 th. Alabama ANG Recon


http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/697republic243RF_84Flasta.jpg

[falcon409]

I'm steadily building a new paint kit for the "F" model, which is my favorite. I found a good "walkaround" site that gives me good closeups of the placards and decals, so I'm adding as much of that as I can make out. All in 2048x2048. . . .up from the 512x512 original textures.

[falcon409]

A WIP shot to show the resolution. Still have shadowing on the lines and rivets to do as well as some mild grease/dirt/gun residue to add.

[stansdds]

The Virginia Air National Guard flew F-84F's from 1958 to 1971. They painted theirs in the SEA camo pattern some time in the late 1960's. Nice to see a F-84F in development for FSX.

[falcon409]

Another WIP:

[richcreator]

Our 95th FIS had the F-84 sabers when I was at Andrews AFB in '56/'57/'58 and was phasing to the Super Sabers F-86's when I got discharged. :icon_lol:

[Bone]

A WIP shot to show the resolution. Still have shadowing on the lines and rivets to do as well as some mild grease/dirt/gun residue to add.

That's looking very good.

[falcon409]

A few "In-Sim" shots. I still have some decals to add in several places and a bit more dirt to add, but close:

[OBIO]

Falcon

Nice seeing the F-84 in Ohio ANG trim. Last Saturday, the 2nd, KMFD held its 2nd annual Airport Day....a fly in (greatly hindered by thunderstorms in the area) and car show. While there, I saw that they have 2 "Gate Guard" aircraft...an F-84 in SEA Camo and an F-100 in SEA Camo. Both are former Ohio ANG planes. I need to get back down to the airport soon and see how I get up close and personal with those planes.

What are the odds of getting that paint in FS9 usable size and format?

OBIO

[Mithrin]

I would love to have this one in FSX...and old model is fine. Better on frames which is awesome when it comes to fast flying jets!:guinness:

[warchild]

That #5 pic looks more like a Cougar to me than it does an F-84 ( its the wing intakes and the F-9f8 nose ). Am I missing something here?:? Am i totally dense??
Pam

42939




Being that I grew up just a few miles away from Grumman and Republic Farmingdale it's great to see this beauty refurbished. As happenstance would have it, I just happen to drive by Republic the day that the C-5 was sitting out on the runway. It was quite a sight for sure.

Here are a few memory joggers of the glory days at Republic. I miss 'em.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/963republic225F_845000thc.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/134republic230F_84armamen.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/299republic231F_84sinflig.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/599republic242F_84Fviewof.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/697republic243RF_84Flasta.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/283republic245F_84Fprotot.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/260republic246RF_84Fweigh.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/519republic249XF_84HBldg2.jpg

[delta_lima]

That #5 pic looks more like a Cougar to me than it does an F-84 ( its the wing intakes and the F-9f8 nose ). Am I missing something here?:? Am i totally dense??Pam42939 The plane you're asking about is the RF-84 photo version. Intakes were on the side ....

[falcon409]

Falcon

Nice seeing the F-84 in Ohio ANG trim. Last Saturday, the 2nd, KMFD held its 2nd annual Airport Day....a fly in (greatly hindered by thunderstorms in the area) and car show. While there, I saw that they have 2 "Gate Guard" aircraft...an F-84 in SEA Camo and an F-100 in SEA Camo. Both are former Ohio ANG planes. I need to get back down to the airport soon and see how I get up close and personal with those planes.

What are the odds of getting that paint in FS9 usable size and format?

OBIO
OBIO, actually the old photos I was able to find of this actual airplane didn't show the ANG Emblem on the tail. There may have been one (Special Paint maybe?) that had it, but nothing I found showed that. I put it on there (had to redraw from scratch as I was never able to find that exact logo) only because it was on the original.

As for an FS9 format. Currently, these are 2048x2048, will FS9 accept that or does it have to be 1024x1024 only? I can reduce everything, but the placards/decals clarity will be lost.

[warchild]

Ahhh, thanks delta_lima.. much appreciated..
Pam