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ryanbatc
June 30th, 2011, 11:37
http://www.carenado.com/CarSite/Portal/index.php?accion=product&correl=60

Installed, still using default panel, haven't tried RXP stuff yet (yes it integrates with RXP yay!).


Initial impressions: Excellent! I have no 210 time but it flies much better than some of their earlier releases, like Seneca and F33.


1) AWESOME VC textures. Oh so crisp, pretty nice lighting with some minor issues -> the lights post switch as no effect -> there's no lighting on the GPS buttons
2) Handles well, semi slippery on the ground but that just may be a feature of the 210 lol...
3) Sounds are really nice too, interior and exterior


Another minor issue -> the shift+3 brings up a config type panel but none of the options work for me...


Anyway, off to try the RXP stuff... here's some shots cropped down from 1920x1080 to stay within guidelines.

edit nm, photobucket is having issues ill get some pics up soon

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/c2102int1.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/c2102ext3.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/c2101.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/c2101night.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/c2102ext4.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/c210extclose.jpg

Felixthreeone
June 30th, 2011, 12:00
Looks outstanding. I might purchase this sometime down the road, but for now I will sit tight and wait for a few other releases to come down the pike. Keep posting screens though...it looks like a great plane

ryanbatc
June 30th, 2011, 12:03
Yep, you should get it for sure. It's fills the niche between Flight1 C182 and Orbx Lancair!

And I have my RXP GNS430W working fabulously now! WAAS approaches work with and without the A/P as well!

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/Untitled-73.jpg

ryanbatc
June 30th, 2011, 12:56
Argh, there's a bit of an issue that RXP 430W-only users need to be aware of:

And apparently it's an FSX limitation from emails I've had with them just now.

With the RXP GNS430W only config, you'll lose the ability to tune NAV2 and COMM2. The GPS500 and 430 frequencies will be exactly the same. The same may be true for the GNS530W-only config... I'm not sure since I don't run that one.

This is a pretty big drawback for me considering the RXP integration at first seemed to be flawless.

pilottj
June 30th, 2011, 13:15
Anyone else having trouble getting to Carenado's site?

ryanbatc
June 30th, 2011, 13:15
Anyone else having trouble getting to Carenado's site?

Yes, it's off and on - maybe a lot of activity?

YoYo
June 30th, 2011, 13:51
Now the website is ok.
Thx for info. Nice model, It was my first addon for FS9 from Carenado :).
Good fps with all systems too (sure, not like default but I have 30-35 fps inside).
I see two new friends in cabin (first time from Carenado) :). Realy fast machine.




http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9716/cessna2103.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3419/cessna2102.jpg

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/1590/cessna2101.jpg

ryanbatc
June 30th, 2011, 14:02
Nice pics.. it is nice and speedy! It fills the gap between Flight1's T182T and Orbx' Lancair for singles... I do like it a lot.

YoYo
June 30th, 2011, 14:20
Without gear.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1865/cessna2106.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9180/cessna2104.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1930/cessna2105.jpg

bkeske
June 30th, 2011, 16:53
Argh, there's a bit of an issue that RXP 430W-only users need to be aware of:

And apparently it's an FSX limitation from emails I've had with them just now.

With the RXP GNS430W only config, you'll lose the ability to tune NAV2 and COMM2. The GPS500 and 430 frequencies will be exactly the same. The same may be true for the GNS530W-only config... I'm not sure since I don't run that one.

This is a pretty big drawback for me considering the RXP integration at first seemed to be flawless.

Ryan, did you try changes the 430 to #2 via the RXP configuration tool?


I just made panel folders for each, and am going to check it out right now.

ryanbatc
June 30th, 2011, 17:25
Yep, whoops I forgot I posted that here too... I'm ryanbatcund over at avsim...

bkeske
June 30th, 2011, 17:35
I'm just going to use the 530 set-up as I don't have the unlimited pack. Seems the Carenado 430 operates as #2, as it should.

Strange though, the set-up does not like additional pane.'X' folders, seems you have to decide and simply use panel=

Looks great, I've missed this plane, and this is quite an improvement over the old 210. Not sure there will be a need to get the updated 206 at this point quite honestly.

Alright, going to figure out where to take this bird on its maiden flight.

ryanbatc
June 30th, 2011, 17:52
I'm just going to use the 530 set-up as I don't have the unlimited pack. Seems the Carenado 430 operates as #2, as it should.

Strange though, the set-up does not like additional pane.'X' folders, seems you have to decide and simply use panel=

Looks great, I've missed this plane, and this is quite an improvement over the old 210. Not sure there will be a need to get the updated 206 at this point quite honestly.

Alright, going to figure out where to take this bird on its maiden flight.

True, the 206 really not needed.... I suppose an amphib 206 would be nice :)

I've been flying literally all day... my wife and kid are out of town LOL!!! The T210 cruises well 17,500 @ about 190 ktas... :) O2 was on thankfully...

LouP
June 30th, 2011, 17:52
Well I can't use the rxp530 and 430 at the same time. When I run the configurator for both, the 530 screen just stays black. I have the unlimited pack but I hope that's not the issue. will someone else let me know if they have this issue also?

Thnx,
LouP

bkeske
June 30th, 2011, 18:25
Lou, that happened to me after attempting to create two custom panel folders. Went back and ran the Caranado panel set-up tool, and everything seemed to work fine. Don't have unlimited though.

Whelp, figured out my plan...Cleveland to Elmira NY. About an hour and a half flight according to my Voyager flight planner. Suggested 5,500 ft...but I'll probably take her up higher than that. :icon_lol:

....and here we go....

LouP
June 30th, 2011, 18:43
Took out all the RXP configurator items, re-ran the Carenado tool but still no go.

LouP

bkeske
June 30th, 2011, 21:23
Very nice. Perfect LNAV landing into Elmira, everything switched over well without having to touch anything on my approach pattern to final.

Flew it by hand skirting through around the Cleveland airspace on departure to altitude and cruise, and it seemed very solid, stable, and easy to hand fly and trim.

I wasn't able to 'hit the numbers' at cruise along the way, a bit slower than what the performance charts stated. Not sure if that was just me (pilot error) or not.

Overall, very nicely done. Fantastic detail throughout, great sounds, etc. Fantastic views out of this bird for high flyin cruising around.

trisager
July 1st, 2011, 10:52
Well I can't use the rxp530 and 430 at the same time. When I run the configurator for both, the 530 screen just stays black.
There is a service pack out now that fixes this issue. It also corrects the cowl flaps lever (was reversed in the original release). You need to login to your Carenado account to download it.

flyingip
July 2nd, 2011, 14:50
On of Carenado's best yet! Flies well, feels good, sounds good .. And I love the rxp integration!

Only two things I noticed

I'm having a hard time to get a nice gentle flare on final: Or well I fail to rise the nose and make a "three pointer", if that's how you may call it on tricycles :icon_lol: or well the nose rises way to fast when I slightly pull the yoke. Might be my yoke settings, or pilot error..

The other thing is that at high altitudes and low temperatures I need to enable the Carb heat switch on my switch panel (which isn't installed on fuel injected airplanes) to prevent my rpm dropping.

Anyways, it is awesome. And it gets you there fast too .. 190 kts GS at 24.000 ft :)

N324JK
July 6th, 2011, 05:49
Agree with all posts here. I have quite a few planes from Carenado's catalog, and I have to say I'm impressed. Would like it if they had additional exit openings (right now I can only get the pilot's side door open - maybe I'm missing something). Other than that, great plane to fly - handled a full IFR approach beautifully with conditions just above minimums, fairly stable in moderate chop too. For the flare, I agree it's hard to judge and I end up doing three pointers most of the time, but I think it's just a touch thing that'll come with time in the cockpit.

One thing I noticed: when I turn on the landing lights, there's a light reflection on the left wing right next to the pilot, as if there's a light shining on it - not sure what's causing that, as the lights are positioned in the engine cowling up front. Hopefully someone at Carenado noticed and they'll issue a fix - we'll see.

Looking forward to the C90!

ryanbatc
July 6th, 2011, 16:11
It's probably the ice light... which lights up the leading edge... Are you pressing "L" or manually flipping the switches?

My 3 doors are opening fine. Shift+1, +2, +3 will get them all.

N324JK
July 6th, 2011, 20:20
Ok, I manually turn on the landing lights, you're right, it's the ice light. As for the doors, maybe I'm just tired and not hitting the buttons right.

Thanks - oh, and here's a screenie. Love this plane!

Cirrus N210MS
July 7th, 2011, 20:08
i picked it up today all i can say is wow!


they didnt have my skin so i created one ! this paint Job is from the Old Family work horse that my moms father Used to fly aswell after he was done with it my dad took ownership of it and few years back he sold it for a SR22 i Miss This old plane so i painted it into this Model of the Cessna 210 The Real N3888Y is a D model 210


http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n579/MikeMannschreck/N3888YphotoReal2.jpg
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n579/MikeMannschreck/N3888YphotoReal1.jpg

Cirrus N210MS
July 7th, 2011, 20:23
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n579/MikeMannschreck/N3888YphotoReal3.jpg

Blue
July 8th, 2011, 00:38
I have time in a 210H and it is one of my favorite "real" aircraft. Carenado did a fine job back in FS2004 with their first release of the 210 and they did not fail to impress with the re-release of the HD version IMO. As for any numbers discrepancies. I haven't really played with the Carenado T210 that much since I just got it yesterday morning. the 210H that I use to fly was not a turbo so the only thing I have to go on would be charts like everyone else. Down low yesterday morning everything felt like business as usual. The T210 just rocketed from place to place like a cat with it's tail on fire. I didn't notice any sensitivity on final or when I flared to land. That isn't to say that there isn't a problem. I am just saying I didn't experience one. Then again I only did one short hop. I am about to do a second this morning. I will do some touch and goes and see if anything shows up. :mixedsmi:

Cirrus N210MS
July 8th, 2011, 06:34
i am very happy with this plane!

anyone have a better sound pack? for a C210

SADT
July 9th, 2011, 23:26
i picked it up today all i can say is wow!


they didnt have my skin so i created one ! this paint Job is from the Old Family work horse that my moms father Used to fly aswell after he was done with it my dad took ownership of it and few years back he sold it for a SR22 i Miss This old plane so i painted it into this Model of the Cessna 210 The Real N3888Y is a D model 210

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n579/MikeMannschreck/N3888YphotoReal1.jpg

Hey Cirrus,

Great repaint there! :salute: Would you mind sharing it with us?

Craig :-)

Cirrus N210MS
July 10th, 2011, 07:52
This repaint is not Perfect The Images used to Create The Skin were Very Old so It May Look Aged


Ill see about Sharing Her! :kilroy:

N324JK
July 10th, 2011, 19:59
A couple more pics for your enjoyment - gotta say the more I fly this plane, the more I like it:

skyhawka4m
July 11th, 2011, 09:36
i am very happy with this plane!

anyone have a better sound pack? for a C210

yes there is....and its very nice!

http://secure.simmarket.com/cessna-turbo-210m-centurion-soundset.phtml

glennc
July 11th, 2011, 10:17
Here's a fun shot. It looked OK at start up at Cushman. Right after take-off, it looks like this on arrival at Orcas, then I shut down FSX. Win7, 64, FSX-A, ATI 5770, 8 gig system RAM. This is one of the hi quality paints. I haven't flown again since. It reminds me of some see-thru plastic models I did a long time ago.


43128

Glenn

ryanbatc
July 11th, 2011, 10:19
That's a system issue... I don't have that, neither do any other users from the posts I've seen.

Do you have any shader mods or bufferpool edits? Any other cfg edits?

glennc
July 11th, 2011, 10:22
Wow - that's quick. Nothing custom in the config. DX10 is not on. I have flown that paint before with nothing like that happening. Next flight will be a low-res paint, then this one again just to see what happens.

Glenn

ryanbatc
July 11th, 2011, 10:23
Dam, I have no idea then... thought it might be related to bufferpools edit or rejectradius edit...

Have you seen that on any other of your models?

glennc
July 11th, 2011, 10:34
First time I've seen it on this PC. It's about six months old. It was one of the very early Sandy Bridge PCs from Dell. At this time, I'm not going to worry about it. The flight itself was very good - no sign of any of that in the VC. I'll be flying again tonight. We'll see what happens then. Thanks for the thoughts. The emperor has no clothes?

Glenn

glennc
July 11th, 2011, 10:35
I have a LOT of airplanes loaded. I may have busted an FSX limitation. I did see a discussion along those lines over the weekend. I may drop some that get rarely flown if it happens again.

ryanbatc
July 11th, 2011, 12:43
I guess I'd wonder from a logical test standpoint: can you repeat this disaster lol?

I have a lot too, but perhaps not as many as you. I run about 15 different payware addons at the moment.

glennc
July 11th, 2011, 17:41
I split last night's flight in two. First leg, Red (normal) Cushman to 2WA1 (Diamond Point). No problem at all. Great flight. Then switch to Blue Light and go the rest of the way to Orcas. The same - all normal and and even better flight. I thought about a screen short at the same place at Orcas and decided against it. I never really considered it an "issue", just a piece of wierdness.

Glenn

Smokey Joe
July 11th, 2011, 19:15
Here's a fun shot. It looked OK at start up at Cushman. Right after take-off, it looks like this on arrival at Orcas, then I shut down FSX. Win7, 64, FSX-A, ATI 5770, 8 gig system RAM. This is one of the hi quality paints. I haven't flown again since. It reminds me of some see-thru plastic models I did a long time ago.

Glenn

I was getting that for a while with the RealAir Duke in TongassX. The solution for me (and my ATI 4870 HD) was to increase the bufferpools. Later, I adopted Bojote's bufferpool configuration, and that kept the problem at bay too. It's not the plane. It's a video card configuration issue.

glennc
July 12th, 2011, 18:19
Joe, Thanks, I expect you have a point. If it happens again, I'll chase that down. I did find a thread on the subject so I have the idea. For the moment, I'm enjoying the x-ray vision.

Glenn

spotlope
July 12th, 2011, 20:09
Apologies if you answered this already, but do you have the HIGHMEMFIX=1 line in your fsx.cfg? I always get display corruption like that on a new build without that switch. With it, I never have the problem. It goes under your [Graphics] section, I believe, and it's not there by default.