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UKMIL
April 21st, 2011, 04:13
ok instead of posting on other threads, I will start my own

here is a vid of the Aux door testing

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UKMIL
April 21st, 2011, 09:04
some images

remember, this one is freeware:applause::applause:
XLR8
April 21st, 2011, 11:55
Superb work ukmil :ernae:. Any kind of release date ? One month 3 months 6 months?
guzler
April 21st, 2011, 12:06
Looks superb, hope to see it soon for release
conork
April 21st, 2011, 12:26
finally a GR7 for fsx :D lovely work .. i cant wait !!! thanks ukmil :)
UKMIL
April 21st, 2011, 13:13
it is still in early development so will be prob nearer 3 months away
conork
April 21st, 2011, 13:21
thats fine by me :) ....btw can i ask a question ..is there going to be a GR9 ??? or just a GR7 ..to be honest i dont really care which version you make but im just asking :D haha thanks again ..your doing a great job
UKMIL
April 22nd, 2011, 01:06
there will be a 9 yes
UKMIL
April 22nd, 2011, 05:42
some base colour applied, so starting to look like a GR7 now
fallenphoenix1986
April 22nd, 2011, 08:02
Better get the drip pans out then....


I'll get me coat...

Looking forward to it when she's ready.

Craig
Dag
April 22nd, 2011, 10:01
Deleted, wrong thread ;-)
XLR8
April 22nd, 2011, 10:11
Couple of question here.

Will the canopy be clear or milky?

Have any VC photos?
UKMIL
April 22nd, 2011, 10:23
the canopy is clear, but very shiny. the VC does not exist yet, I have only started on the external at present
UKMIL
April 22nd, 2011, 11:19
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UKMIL
April 24th, 2011, 04:23
probe added

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1303647740_3_FT60551_image2.jpg
Railrunner130
April 24th, 2011, 08:10
Cryin' shame the real aircraft are gone. She's looking really nice in FSX though.
UKMIL
April 24th, 2011, 10:18
AIM9's added

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1303669024_3_FT60551_image2.jpg
Pips
April 24th, 2011, 16:02
Looks superb so far. This one will be a real keeper. :)

PS. It occur's to me that the Harrier bears a striking resemblence to the Messerschmitt Me 163. Almost like a grown up version. I wonder if the 163 influenced the Harrier designer?
UKMIL
April 25th, 2011, 11:19
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ZsoltB
April 25th, 2011, 20:49
Very Great!

:applause:

Zsolt
UKMIL
April 26th, 2011, 02:11
this will be another of our 'customizable' load systems. You can choose what to fit, and mix and match the loads
ZsoltB
April 26th, 2011, 02:17
:jump::applause::jump::applause:
Stefano Zibell
April 26th, 2011, 02:18
That's great, customizable payloads are a BIG deal to me.
UKMIL
April 26th, 2011, 02:35
indeed, we did this with our Tornado packs, and it will follow on this, you can fit what you like from the payload screen
UKMIL
April 26th, 2011, 04:03
Paveway added
AndyG43
April 26th, 2011, 04:05
She's already looking VERY nice!! :applause:
XLR8
April 26th, 2011, 14:54
This thing is going to be great.
UKMIL
April 30th, 2011, 03:41
ok, the external model is done, next is to complete the many GR7/GR9 skins, and do the 2d panel, then the vC

any 2d panel experts fancy a go at this?
XLR8
April 30th, 2011, 11:44
We there be any droppable ordnance on this aircraft. Just for realism.
UKMIL
April 30th, 2011, 13:34
yes there will
UKMIL
May 1st, 2011, 09:30
here she is ski jump launching:applause:

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1304270850_3_FT58831_image8.jpg

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1304270850_3_FT58831_image9.jpg
delta_lima
May 1st, 2011, 14:20
Brilliant!

A bit OT, but is there any plans by UKMIL or anyone else to do an updated FRS1?

As far as GR7s go, though, this looks superb!

thanks,

dl
UKMIL
May 2nd, 2011, 01:20
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?52474-Wilco-Harrier
delta_lima
May 2nd, 2011, 08:21
Thanks ... been away for a while ... missed that!

Looks like the Harrier family is getting good coverage these days ... :icon_lol:

Awesome - looking forward to both.

best regards,

dl
Stefano Zibell
May 2nd, 2011, 08:46
Wait, did I see asymmetrical payloads? And did I read droppable munitions?
UKMIL
May 9th, 2011, 00:28
T10 conversion under way,
Stefano Zibell
May 9th, 2011, 10:32
Nice, the trainers too!
strykerpsg
May 9th, 2011, 18:49
Sweet model and always freeware. You guys rock. Two Harriers in one month, the Apocalypse must be approaching soon.

Matt
ZsoltB
May 11th, 2011, 00:09
When will it be available to the Harrier package?
IanHenry
May 11th, 2011, 01:29
This is something to look forward too!

Ian.
UKMIL
May 11th, 2011, 04:27
When will it be available to the Harrier package?

release is still some way off, as we need to complete the VC
XLR8
May 11th, 2011, 06:38
This plane just keeps getting better and better. But I have to re ask this.From the screen shots the canopy looks white/milky.
UKMIL
May 14th, 2011, 05:53
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Bjoern
May 14th, 2011, 07:42
Very cool, Gaffer! Very, very cool!
UKMIL
May 15th, 2011, 05:24
we are also working on the FA2 conversion, then prob the FRs1, then GR3
UKMIL
May 16th, 2011, 08:32
here are the GR7 and T10 together, the external and 2d panels are almost completed and will be released while I complete the vC
delta_lima
May 16th, 2011, 09:00
Looking fantastic - love the idea of seeing your rendition of the FRS.1 and GR3!

dl
UKMIL
May 16th, 2011, 09:26
The FRS, FA and GR3 are coming, so hold on tight:applause:
XLR8
May 16th, 2011, 09:33
we are also working on the FA2 conversion, then prob the FRs1, then GR3



Thats a long nose. For larger radar?
delta_lima
May 16th, 2011, 10:04
Thats a long nose. For larger radar?

That's the second Sea Harrier model - FA2. Obviously, it's a WIP, but he's showing us a preview of what that model will look like.

The first (FRS1) Sea Harrier had a Ferranti Blue Fox radar. The second Sea Harrier (FA2) was designed around the more advanced Blue Vixen radar. The larger antenna, receiver, and transmitter - as well as all the attendant processor, controller, and power hardware required a much flarger orward fuselage/radome space. Bear in mind, that Blue Vixen unit was designed to support the AIM-120 AMRAAM.

From a purely aesthetic standpoint, I never liked the look of the FA2 - but from an objective historical standpoint, it earned a very vital place in naval aviation history. It showed that you could give a comparatively small aircraft a very powerful all weather look down/shoot down capability. Coupled with it's obvious V/STOL capabilities, it gave the FAA a unique, if shortlived flexible multi-purpose fighter capability. Curious that the Indian navy is working to give their FRS1s a similar capability ... all other air arms (Spain, USMC, Italy, Thailand) have concentrated more on the Harrier's ground-focused roles ....

Here's a quick summary of the Sea Harrier history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Aerospace_Sea_Harrier Wiki can be very superficial and occasionally inaccurate - but that should help you understand the Sea Harrier a bit better.

dl
UKMIL
May 16th, 2011, 11:26
we will also release the GR5, a first for flightsim

here are a few more of the GR7
peter12213
May 16th, 2011, 15:23
Mate thats stunning, will Ukmil members have any perks or not? :wavey:

One thing I Beg though, can we have a British pilot in the VC too please, I know it's a rivet counting thing which I normally hate but it would look so much better!!

Those textures and models are stunning though! Really can't wait for this!
delta_lima
May 16th, 2011, 15:51
One thing I Beg though, can we have a British pilot in the vc too please, I know it's a rivet counting thing which I normally hate but it would look so much better!!



Odd ... I don't think I've ever seen a "pilot in the VC" that looked good. I mean, in a fighter, that's just a pair of arms and legs ... I wouldn't want those arms blocking my view of the panel(s). Bad enough when some developers model the 'stick in such a way that blocks the view to a key instrument. The Iris Phantom had this, blocking the view of the primary compass, as I recall. Yet, I can understand why not modelling the stick would be a drawback. But a VC body? Really?

The otherwise awesome FS9 Alphajet had arms/legs, and frankly, I think it looked awful. I think it's telling that in most, if not all leading edge projects in both freeware and payware (Etendard, Wilco Harrier, A2A, Piglet, Piper, Vertigo, Real Air, etc.) the pilot (as seen from the VC) is never present. Too many complex shapes and movements to make it look worthy of the effort to make - and impact to performance - of including it, IMHO.

Or am I missing something here ... ?
peter12213
May 16th, 2011, 17:02
Mate I don't mean in the VC sorry, I mean just for the external model with regard to the helmet and oxy mask, because the one depicted is the American HGU55p and the MBU12p mask where ours is the Alpha700/MK10B and the P/Q type oxy mask which is completely different to anything else harrier pilots wear!

Delta_lima couldn't agree more with regard to pilots in the VC, as said thats not what I really meant mate, hate them here too bud!
Cirrus N210MS
May 16th, 2011, 18:15
looking nice:salute:
delta_lima
May 16th, 2011, 20:09
Mate I don't mean in the VC sorry, I mean just for the external model with regard to the helmet and oxy mask, because the one depicted is the American HGU55p and the MBU12p mask where ours is the Alpha700/MK10B and the P/Q type oxy mask which is completely different to anything else harrier pilots wear!

Delta_lima couldn't agree more with regard to pilots in the VC, as said thats not what I really meant mate, hate them here too bud!

Aah - now that makes more sense. Indeed, correct oxygen masks and helmets is important! Gaffer has an eye for accuracy (as the bypass doors discussion on the Wilco Harrier showed) so I am sure when released, the'll be good.

Cheers bud:ernae:

DL
UKMIL
May 17th, 2011, 00:41
Yes, I will change the pilot before release
UKMIL
May 17th, 2011, 00:42
Mate thats stunning, will Ukmil members have any perks or not? :wavey:



I may hold the T10 for UKMIL members only
Dave Torkington
May 17th, 2011, 02:48
Your GR7's looking very nice indeed :salute: any more shots of the VC coming?
UKMIL
May 17th, 2011, 03:50
no, the VC is only in it's first stages, so not worth any shots
Dave Torkington
May 17th, 2011, 05:19
no, the VC is only in it's first stages, so not worth any shots

Thanks - just thought I'd ask as the VC modeling looked very good :salute:
UKMIL
May 17th, 2011, 08:59
I am concentrating on the externals at present, then the vC

anyway, here is a FIRST for flightsim, a GR5, which has never been modeled

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1305651474_3_FT60551_image2.jpg

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1305651474_3_FT60551_image3.jpg
jagl04
May 17th, 2011, 11:40
Really beautiful, great job
peter12213
May 17th, 2011, 15:15
That is very nice indeed!
Cirrus N210MS
May 17th, 2011, 16:23
goto be nice to have harrier that two seater would be fun to do in multiplayer with passanger in back seat eheh :salute:
Dag
May 18th, 2011, 00:33
Will these models have specular maps and bump maps? Will a repaint kit be 'club members only' ?

Very nice modelling btw :-)
UKMIL
May 18th, 2011, 01:17
they have bump maps, but I have not applied any spec maps

And yes, as normal rules apply, the paintkit will be CLUB MEMBERS only. They have to have some perks! we give away such detailed models for free, so the paying members need to have something:salute:
Dag
May 18th, 2011, 02:16
they have bump maps, but I have not applied any spec maps

And yes, as normal rules apply, the paintkit will be CLUB MEMBERS only. They have to have some perks! we give away such detailed models for free, so the paying members need to have something:salute:

Reason I asked for the spec maps is that I feel the model seems a bit too dull. The old NATO green/Lichen Green and Dark Sea Grey/Camouflage Grey always seemed to have a slight sheen.
For the rest of the reply, ROGER THAT ! :salute:
UKMIL
May 18th, 2011, 05:48
I can add spec maps, but i never manage to get them right
Bjoern
May 18th, 2011, 09:36
I can add spec maps, but i never manage to get them right

Desaturate the (repainted) texture and save it as a texture. Quick to do and works for me.
Dag
May 18th, 2011, 10:17
Desaturate the (repainted) texture and save it as a texture. Quick to do and works for me.

Whooahh ! Maybe you also do something about the alpha-channel?

Seriously, there are many ways of doing specs. Most people darken the RGB and add an alpha channel with a dark RGB value (70-70-70) for a matt scheme or a brighter RGB value (200-200-200) for a semi gloss scheme.
Personally I work with a greyscale RGB, completely desaturated. An RGB value on the spec texture of 77-77-77 and an alpha value of 204-204-204 gave my grey schemed A-7s a nice sheen. It does, however, matter a bit how the materials are set in the model. An RGB value of 25-25-25 on the main spec texture and a value of 128-128-128 on the alpha gives you a much matter appearance. Just a thought.
UKMIL
May 18th, 2011, 10:40
I will give that a try on the green GR5 and see how it looks
UKMIL
May 19th, 2011, 03:17
added sheen with spec map
Dag
May 19th, 2011, 03:24
;-) !
FSX68
May 22nd, 2011, 09:01
probe added

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1303647740_3_FT60551_image2.jpg

Think a US Marines repaint could be done? Not sure what model harrier they use...
fox18delta
May 22nd, 2011, 09:41
AV-8B Plus (parked)with the extended radar nose , the APG-65 radar, I believe it is, and the standard AV-8B (flying)
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Stefano Zibell
May 24th, 2011, 11:58
Looks way better with specular mapping.
FSX68
May 25th, 2011, 11:26
I am concentrating on the externals at present, then the vC

anyway, here is a FIRST for flightsim, a GR5, which has never been modeled

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1305651474_3_FT60551_image2.jpg

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1305651474_3_FT60551_image3.jpg


Stunning.... sure would like to see this morphed to the McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing)) AV-8B Harrier II ....hint hint.. :icon_lol:
I still have issues trying to get it to lift straight up, I have the nozzles pointed down and with fuel at 50%. It wants to accelerate
at about 80 knots in a sort of short take off fashion; I can't seem to get it to perform like your videos (liftoff/hover landing.) But it is a challange.
UKMIL
May 26th, 2011, 06:11
Stunning.... sure would like to see this morphed to the McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing)) AV-8B Harrier II ....hint hint.. :icon_lol:
I still have issues trying to get it to lift straight up, I have the nozzles pointed down and with fuel at 50%. It wants to accelerate
at about 80 knots in a sort of short take off fashion; I can't seem to get it to perform like your videos (liftoff/hover landing.) But it is a challange.

how can you have issue with THIS one getting it to hover, as this has not been released?
FSX68
May 26th, 2011, 11:19
how can you have issue with THIS one getting it to hover, as this has not been released?


I was having the "hovering issues" on your older current Released model, not your new one on this
thread. Hope that clears up the confusion.
UKMIL
May 26th, 2011, 11:39
ah

well hovering with that, is always down to 2 areas

first, a corrupt FSCUIP installation

second, too much fuel, you need to be below around 20% fuel