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brad kaste
January 8th, 2011, 06:47
Published January 06, 2011 | FoxNews.com (http://foxnews.com/)

The planet's northern magnetic pole is drifting slowly but steadily towards Russia -- and it's throwing off planes in Florida.

Tampa International Airport was forced to readjust its runways Thursday to account for the movement of the Earth's magnetic fields, information that pilots rely upon to navigate planes. Thanks to the fluctuations in the force, the airport has closed its primary runway until Jan. 13 to change taxiway signs to account for the shift, the Federal Aviation Administration said.

The poles are generated by movements within the Earth's inner and outer cores, though the exact process isn't exactly understood. They're also constantly in flux, moving a few degrees every year, but the changes are almost never of such a magnitude that runways require adjusting, said Paul Takemoto, a spokesman for the FAA.

The magnetic fields vary from place to place. Adjustments are needed now at airports in Tampa, but they aren't immediately required at all airports across the country.

So just how often is something like this necessary? "It happens so infrequently that they wouldn't venture a guess," Takemoto told FoxNews.com. "In fact, you're the first journalist to ever ask me about it."

Takemoto was quick to point out that the change, which also was required at Tampa's smaller Peter O. Knight airport, will have no effect on passenger safety.

"You want to be absolutely precise in your compass heading," he pointed out. "To make sure the precision is there that we need, you have to make these changes."

Kathleen Bergen, another spokeswoman for the FAA, explained that runway designations and charting rely upon geomagnetic information. "Aviation is charted using latitude and longitude and the magnetic poles," she told FoxNews.com.

The busiest runway at Tampa International will be re-designated 19R/1L on aviation charts. It had been 18R/36L, indicating its alignment along the 180-degree approach from the north and the 360-degree approach from the south, explained an article in the Tampa Tribune detailing the changes. Later this month, the airport's east parallel runway and the seldom used east-west runway will be closed to change signs reflecting their new designations as well.

"The Earth's poles are changing constantly, and when they change more than three degrees, that can affect runway numbering," Bergen said.

While rejiggering the runways is a very extreme event, the fields are constantly in flux and constantly being remapped, explained Lorne McKee, a scientist with the geomagnetism division of Natural Resources Canada.

"Since the fields change relatively slowly, they're marked out at 10 degree increments," he explained. The field has swung from approximately 10 degrees east in the late 16th century to 25 degrees west in the early 19th century -- before returning to a current value of about 3 degrees west.

It wasn't immediately clear when or even if changes would be required at other airports. And even the rate of change is inconsistent, McKee said, noting that it's changing much more quickly at the poles themselves.

Beyond just sliding around the planet, the magnetic north and south poles have been known to completely flip as well; these reversals, recorded in the magnetism of ancient rocks, are unpredictable. The last one was 780,000 years ago. Are we overdue for another? No one knows.

Tboomer57
January 8th, 2011, 19:34
I saw the same article when I was looking for Beebe, Arkansas info.

They were trying to bundle on the apocalypse.....sort of

I've been hearing about this since I can remember............high school science maybe???

Here is a graphic I can seem to remember seeing with some upgrades......

Back then the theory was it might circle back around after approaching north pole????

I would say the 1600 thru late 1700 locations maybe not as accurate?? So the apparent acceleration is misleading. Also, take in the curvature of the earth

Jagdflieger
January 8th, 2011, 20:01
Apparently it's been moving quite rapidly over the last couple of decades. It's at least 2 degrees from where it was when I started having to worry about magnetic declination, magnetic north and grid north.

stansdds
January 9th, 2011, 04:14
It's a sign of the impending apocalypse! 2012!!!!! RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!

Huh? Oh... okay... :173go1:

Interesting information and something that I expect a lot of flight simmers never think about.

I dunno... 2012? Maybe the Mayans knew something we didn't and that is when the poles will reverse?

Cazzie
January 9th, 2011, 04:37
It's called precession, the Earth wobbles, it has done so forever. The Earth goes through one such complete precessional cycle in a period of approximately 26,000 years, during which the positions of stars as measured in the equatorial coordinate system will slowly change; the change is actually due to the change of the coordinates. Over this cycle the Earth's north axial pole moves from where it is now, within 1° of Polaris, in a circle around the ecliptic pole, with an angular radius of about 23.5 degrees (or approximately 23 degrees, 27 arc-minutes<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"></sup>). The shift is 1 degree in 72 years, where the angle is taken from the observer, not from the center of the circle.

Jagdflieger
January 9th, 2011, 08:34
Yes, another variable in how we measure North. Precession affects Polar North, but does not affect the magnetic pole reading. Declination between the two poles varies depending on where you are in the world and believe it or not, our MS flight sims actually model it fairly well. In the days of magnetic only compasses, sailors, airmen, soldiers and explorers all had to be cognizant of the difference. We still teach magnetic navigation in the Army, but GPS and electronic compasses are slowly supplanting the measurement.

North can be measured in several ways:

Polar North
True North
Grid North
Magnetic North

Magnetic compasses all read Magnetic North and the the numbers at the end of airplane runways all indicate the magnetic orienation of the runway and it should match up with a properly calibrated magnetic compass. Thus the quandry of the airport in Florida.

Terry
January 9th, 2011, 09:26
Ready for the new Federal bureau of magnetics to combat man made pole swapping complete with a gauss tax?

stansdds
January 9th, 2011, 10:09
Ready for the new Federal bureau of magnetics to combat man made pole swapping complete with a gauss tax?
Will that be part of the Bureau of Redundant Bureaus? LOL

n4gix
January 9th, 2011, 10:10
Ready for the new Federal bureau of magnetics to combat man made pole swapping complete with a gauss tax?

Let's have Congress fund NASA for a new project that will construct an enormous, in-orbit degaussing coil, so they can degauss the earth and fix the problem...

I used to make a pretty good living degaussing ancient color television CRT's, "rejuvenating" them with my (expensive!) TA-903B, and installing filament "boosters..." :ernae: