Modern Airliners (and maybe not so modern) [Archive]

Tom Clayton

January 2nd, 2011, 18:07

OK, so I'm shamelessly copying Roger! Sure, they're called "shop heaters," or "hair dryers," but there's still thousands of users that like to fly them - myself included. Today, it was the Project Airbus A380 from Bangkok to Hong Kong. Personally, I don't bother with anything smaller than a 777-300 or the new 747-800F. I love the challenge of landing the biggest planes out there! If you're a Boeing fan, then you probably already know about Free Sky Project, aka FSPro (http://www.freeskyproject.com/index), and Airbus fans will likely know the name Project Airbus (http://www.pairbus.com/board/).

Oddly enough though, I prefer not to fly them as an existing airline. I prefer private paint jobs. So most of the time, I'll just take the paint kit and slap a small reg on a plain white paint and and fly it as if it was a budget charter service. That may seem counter-intuitive on an A380, but then, it is a simulator! If the entire population of Whitsett NC (735) want to pool their resources and take a trip to London, who am I to say no!?

I also love just about all of the older three-holers like the 727 or the L1011 (Eric Cantu's L1011 unfinished model is currently being reworked by FSPro), and the freeware MD-11 from Overland (http://www.overland.co.jp/japaneseairports/special.html) is also an old favorite.

So, who else out there likes airliners? Do you have a preference? Speak up!

PeteHam

January 2nd, 2011, 18:41

The Tinmouse B737-200 is my favorite along with the Flight One B727 series.

Also the early Vistaliners 727 & 737 series, along with anything by Erick Cantu and Kittyhawk.

Oldies but still good.

Pete.

Z-claudius24

January 2nd, 2011, 18:44

Hi,

Go there and begin to fill your HDD :)
http://www.simviation.com/hjg/main.htm

Matt Wynn

January 2nd, 2011, 18:46

I'm on the Airbus bandwagon, that new PA A380 is a real treat... shame theres no Trent 900 soundsets yet... or none that i know of.... plus anyone know the shockwave light Co-ords on this thing? :icon_lol:

http://www.pairbus.com/derek/A380/5_800.jpg
http://www.pairbus.com/derek/A380/3_800.jpg
images from Project Airbus Forums, older images these too... and i believe they're working on a VC for it... they have a cabin one out so you can sit back there.

ahh more recent.....
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12397338/a380_2_house_1_800.jpg

Tom Clayton

January 2nd, 2011, 18:59

Except for "OPERATED BY CLAYTON AIR" by the front door and a small reg on the back, that white one is exactly what my Airbus looks like!:icon_lol:

For sounds, I use Emil Serafino's Trent 800 sounds. I could be completely wrong, but I'm betting there's not a huge difference in the sounds. Be sure to get the update file too:

FS2004 (ACOF) - FS2004 Sound FS2004 Rolls Royce Trent 800 Series Sounds
[ Download (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=89498) | View (http://www.flightsim.com/zview.php?cm=list&fid=89498) ]
Name: b777t800.zip (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=89498) Size: 38,322,478 Date: 06-02-2005 Downloads: 9,481
http://www.flightsim.com/k/b777t800.gif FS2004 Rolls Royce Trent 800 Series Sounds For The Boeing 777. All of the sounds included in this package were carefully taken and chosen from some of the best Trent 800 recordings around, ultimately giving you an awesome, powerful crystal clear stereo experience in Flight Simulator. By Emil Serafino Jr. (FS Sound Project). (See also TRNT800U.ZIP (http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=TRNT800U.ZIP))

Matt Wynn

January 2nd, 2011, 19:07

they're pretty close... the A380 sounds like a real maniac with the 900's. i'll let you enjoy the aero-music... and play the judge.
Trent 800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdyEZJm57qM

Trent 900 (During a display)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T28wC8UPk7U&feature=related

HorusJ

January 2nd, 2011, 19:23

Yes to airliners!
Airbus anything rates high in my book.Lockheed,Ilyushin and Tupolev sometimes but I don't care for Boeing products,except one certain 73.
2703827039
Airbus A318 Elite by Project Airbus.
Boeing 737-490 by 50 North,Tinker Bell textures by Mike Mahat.

J

Matt Wynn

January 2nd, 2011, 19:27

Tom Clayton

January 2nd, 2011, 19:33

Tom Clayton

January 2nd, 2011, 19:43

hey Horus, know where i can find the PA A320/321 and related paintkits? did a quick search but nothing turned up. also Tom does an An225 count as an Airliner? they were planning to build one to PAX spec years ago... :icon_lol:
You may have to do some creative searching, but Avsim and Flightsim should have the files. As far as the Antonov, I suppose it might slip in a (large) side door...:isadizzy:

Z-claudius24

January 2nd, 2011, 19:45

Hi,

Shockwave 3D lights setting for PA 380

//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing, 6=taxi
light.0 = 3, -111.35, 0.00, 7.80, fx_shockwave_navwhi_l ,
light.1 = 2, -111.35, 0.00, 7.50, fx_shockwave_strobe_l ,
light.2 = 1, 50.60, 1.45, 17.90, fx_shockwave_beaconh ,
light.3 = 1, 50.60, -1.45, 17.90, fx_shockwave_beaconh ,
light.4 = 1, 8.30, -0.40, -11.80, fx_shockwave_beaconb_l ,
light.5 = 4, 110.00, 0.00, 7.25, fx_shockwave_vclight ,
light.6 = 6, 53.00, 17.00, -2.50, fx_shockwave_landing_light ,
light.7 = 6, 53.00, -17.00, -2.50, fx_shockwave_landing_light ,
light.8 = 6, 105.00, 0.00, -12.50, fx_shockwave_landing_light ,
light.9 = 6, 105.00, 0.00, -9.00, fx_shockwave_landing_light_double ,
light.10 = 5, 53.00, 17.00, -3.50, fx_Shockwave_landing_light_narrow ,
light.11 = 5, 53.00, -17.00, -3.50, fx_Shockwave_landing_light_narrow

Z-claudius24

January 2nd, 2011, 19:48

Hi,

A video of some paywares and freewares A380 (just for compare external and landing gear realism)

http://simtube.com/video/4323/Airbuses-A380

HorusJ

January 2nd, 2011, 19:54

hey Horus, know where i can find the PA A320/321 and related paintkits? did a quick search but nothing turned up. also Tom does an An225 count as an Airliner? they were planning to build one to PAX spec years ago... :icon_lol:

Come to think of it Smoothie I don't know if I have ever seen a PA 321!? I have only used the 318.
But Simviation and probably Flightsim and AVSim have the 320s.

Horus

Willy

January 2nd, 2011, 19:56

Eric Cantu has let Historic Jetliners Group (HJG) use his unfinished L1011 TriStar. They've got it up for download now with a bunch of paints, two different panels, improved flight dynamics and a new sound set. I've always liked the big Lockheed as the first trip I ever took commercial the last leg was on a Delta TriStar.

Another I like is the HJG 727.

My favorite jetliner is David Maltby's Comet 4.

But I really like the old propliners. Jens Kristensen makes some good ones. I'm really fond of his Boeing 307 Stratoliner, Douglas DC-4 and Canadair Argonaut. Manfred Jahn's L749 Constellation is another favorite.

Z-claudius24

January 2nd, 2011, 19:59

Hi,

Some videos of the Tristar HJG release ....

http://simtube.com/video/4267/The-Tristar

http://simtube.com/video/4348/HJG-Tristar-landing-test

And 727

http://simtube.com/video/4270/HJG-B727-Colombia

http://simtube.com/video/3310/B727-Emergency-landing-at-Plaisance

http://simtube.com/video/3312/Flight-of-the-Condor

Matt Wynn

January 2nd, 2011, 20:13

thanks for the shockwave locations claudius :ernae:

Z-claudius24

January 2nd, 2011, 20:25

Hi,

Come to think of it Smoothie I don't know if I have ever seen a PA 321!? I have only used the 318.
But Simviation and probably Flightsim and AVSim have the 320s.Project Airbus released so far are:
318-319-320 and 380
For a 321 I suggest the IFDG model.

Matt Wynn

January 2nd, 2011, 20:28

copy that, will go hunting...

PA has A321 as next looking at their forums....
http://www.pairbus.com/esg/pics/a321_3.jpg

Z-claudius24

January 2nd, 2011, 20:30

Hi,

All about PA

http://www.pairbus.com/board/

Some more videos:

PA

http://simtube.com/video/3272/Project-Airbus-A319-at-Mauritius

http://simtube.com/video/3558/A320-ILS-Landing-at-MRU

http://simtube.com/video/4159/Test-of-9-Dragons-Kai-Tak

http://simtube.com/video/4354/Crazy-Swiss

And a 707 from HJG ...

http://simtube.com/video/3356/Travolta-Boeing-707

OBIO

January 2nd, 2011, 20:47

The only airliner that I fly as a passenger carrier is the stock 747....but most of the time I fly it with the weight/payload cut down to just the pilot and co-pilot (no passengers, no luggage, no stewardesses) and fuel cut down to just 8000 gallons in the center tanks. Then I flip the bird over on its back, 500 feet or so above ground level, smash the throttles to the fire wall and watch as my inverted airliner gets oh so close to the speed of sound.

Most of the time when I am flying an airliner..usually one with round engines and props...I do so with the mind set that I am hauling goods and supplies rather than people. I am a cargo hauler at heart.

OBIO

Willy

January 2nd, 2011, 21:16

You never hear cargo screaming in the back.. ;)

Matt Wynn

January 2nd, 2011, 21:21

You never hear cargo screaming in the back.. ;)

well i don't know... depends what your 'Cargo' is, knowing Obio i wouldn't be surprised if it was a brewery owner, and obio was after the keys to the brewery (explains the inverted torture method)...

another odd one i like flying is Jens' Comets... such a beautiful shape...

Willy

January 2nd, 2011, 22:00

Jens' Comets are pretty good, but IMHO David Maltby's are much better. Although I've yet to get the autopilot sorted out on it.

Wing_Z

January 2nd, 2011, 22:10

...A video of some paywares and freewares A380...

My goodness...I didn't realise there were so many A380 offerings!

Yonks ago, I was looking for a good A380, and bought the Overland series (you couldn't buy singletons)ALL the Boeings, ALL the Airbuses. I'm still happy with their A380 although the PA model is really good - just needs a VC and it will be a tough choice.

My all-time favourite jetliner has to be the (then) POSKY B777, because of the VC, and unmatched external model.
Why then, has it proven so difficult to get the FDE right?
Every time I download a repaint, there is yet another FDE update, now v9 I think.
I've just given up on it.

Motormouse

January 3rd, 2011, 03:27

David Maltby's BAC 1-11; Project Tupolev TU-154

ttfn

Pete

T Square

January 3rd, 2011, 06:36

I generally lean towards HJG Boeings. Mainly because of all the variations Civilian as well as Military. If you spent any amount of time in the Air Force from 60s to today you have flown, boarded, maintained or been touched in some way by a Boeing aircraft. It's just my opinion but,there are very few aircraft that can compare with the history of the Boeing 707. Many a passenger has boarded her, and millions of tons of cargo have passed through her hold. In war and peace you would be hard pressed to find a military pilot that has not at least one time, thanked the Lord for that flying gas station. Many a TDY or Combat deployment has started in the hold of a 707/KC135 and many have ended with the return of loved ones in happiness or in sorrow. I spent 30 years in the Air Force, My first flight on an aircraft of any kind was a hop from Ellinton Field in Houston TX on a KC135 to Kinchloe AFB Michigan, my first duty asignment, my last flight on a KC135 was leaving Prince Saultan AFB Saudi Arabia, heading to Germany for the start of a long trip home. That Boeing was a good friend it took me where I was needed and always brought me home safe.

Trans_23

January 3rd, 2011, 10:38

Been spending a lot of time in Boeing aircraft lately....(repainting the fleet)

Z-claudius24

January 3rd, 2011, 12:09

Hi,

My repaint of a 747-SP from Posky :)

http://simtube.com/video/4212/Posky-B747-SP

Fleet Canuck

January 3rd, 2011, 14:02

For some reason, I've always had a fondness for the smallest airliners, the 19 seat planes. Viking Air has put the Twin Otter back in production, so that's the only one I know of being built now. PAD has a pretty good Twin Otter, floats and wheels.

The dominant 19 seater today seems to be the Beech 1900D, and PAD has a very good one. I enjoy flying that one. I also fly Rick Piper's HS748, a plane used in the Canadian Arctic because of its flexible freight/pax configuration. Of course, there's Milton's DHC7 which can shoehorn into any runway. Both of those planes are high quality models.

The DHC Dash 8 by PAD is good, and the Q400 version has a full cabin, but watch that you don't scrape the tail on rotation! POSKY's CRJs are great, and the EMB 195 by PAD is a more modern version of the regional jet. I just like the looks of it.

When I want to go really small, I fly the payware FSD Piper Navajo. Air taxi, charter...the aircraft is top notch and worth the money.

Trans_23

January 3rd, 2011, 14:45

I think I am going to paint up a couple Posky CRJ's pretty soon. I have heard they were nice but have never flown them. (at least I don't think I have) :icon_eek:

Moses03

January 3rd, 2011, 15:07

One that hasn't been mentioned yet that I like a lot is the stylish Sud Caravelle from AFG/HJG.

Moses

Z-claudius24

January 3rd, 2011, 15:22

Hi,

Promoting my videos .. LOL ...some other flying of my "steel tubes" :)

B747
http://simtube.com/video/3274/POSKY-B747-Lufthansa-at-Mauritius

QW 757 Beta (was freeware)
http://simtube.com/video/3331/Qualitywings-B757-200

Some from Air Mauritius fleet
http://simtube.com/video/4315/Air-Mauritius

Tom Clayton

January 3rd, 2011, 15:52

Speaking of David Maltby, another vintage 'liner I like to fly is the VC-10. There's just something about those barn-door flaps that I've always liked. (Screenie from David's site)

Matt Wynn

January 3rd, 2011, 16:25

Speaking of David Maltby, another vintage 'liner I like to fly is the VC-10. There's just something about those barn-door flaps that I've always liked. (Screenie from David's site)

Don't forget the noise the Vicky-ten makes! so loud and so good!

Tom Clayton

January 3rd, 2011, 16:35

I use the same sounds on a few other vintage jets - gotta love LOUD!!!:jump:

Wing_Z

January 4th, 2011, 18:33

PeteHam

January 4th, 2011, 22:28

I also agree, this is another great design , but lacking on a suitable range of textures.

Pete.

Another POSKY bird that I'd rate as good as their B777: the ERJ135...superb external model and texturing, great VC, and easy to fly. A real little airliner.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h200/CHARL_photos/SOH/ERJ135.jpg

strega13

January 4th, 2011, 23:55

Another POSKY bird that I'd rate as good as their B777: the ERJ135...superb external model and texturing, great VC, and easy to fly. A real little airliner.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h200/CHARL_photos/SOH/ERJ135.jpg
as much as i love this POSKY bird , i enjoy a lot more their CRJ . it has been among my favorite planes since FS2002 .

Txmmy83

January 5th, 2011, 12:09

hey Horus, know where i can find the PA A320/321 and related paintkits? did a quick search but nothing turned up. also Tom does an An225 count as an Airliner? they were planning to build one to PAX spec years ago... :icon_lol:

here Pal:
http://www.fastbyfred.de/PA_PAINTKITS.zip

and here a nice site
Joerg Zeitschels Nemesis Portal
http://www.jzserver.de/db/e107_plugins/forum/forum.php
thats where I found the link from above

I heard something like they are working on an A321 but not totally sure

Wild Bill Kelso

January 5th, 2011, 13:03

... I'll just take the paint kit and slap a small reg on a plain white paint and and fly it as if it was a budget charter service. That may seem counter-intuitive on an A380, but then, it is a simulator! If the entire population of Whitsett NC (735) want to pool their resources and take a trip to London, who am I to say no!?

You're a wise man, Tom! :applause:
Besides all tweaking, overclocking, obeying procedure charts and longing for the highest possible "accuracy", it's the fun that brings us all together!
And plain white paints can be fun too!
I did that for a VA some weeks ago:

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/wildbillkelso_berlin/737/orion_n732OR.jpg
(Don't mind the "illegitimate" rego, containing the letter "O": It was changed just before launch).

Although I'm a "piston head" by heart, this Tinmouse is a beautiful hairdryer for sure!

Cheers,
Markus.

Willy

January 5th, 2011, 13:07

The best paints I've done for Merc Air have usually been the simpler ones.

Wing_Z

January 5th, 2011, 14:47

Was there ever a VC for this?
as much as i love this POSKY bird , i enjoy a lot more their CRJ . it has been among my favorite planes since FS2002 .

Their ERJ 145 springs to mind too, also an excellent VC

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h200/CHARL_photos/SOH/ERJ145-1.jpg

I also agree, this is another great design , but lacking on a suitable range of textures.
Pete.Yes it has a number of military operators too - I managed to find a nice Greek Air Force repaint for it.