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falcon409
November 27th, 2010, 10:56
I'm using an NVidia 9600GT with 512meg right now and I was at Best Buy earlier today looking at the 450GTS ($129.00). I have the power supply to handle it, but is anyone running this board right now and if so, what's your opinion and how much would I actually gain over what I currently have?

Thanks!:salute:

bstolle
November 27th, 2010, 11:35
I'm just going to buy the same GPU but read today multiple times that the 'old' GTS 250 is way faster in 'older' games like colin mcrae etc....
So I'm not sure if the 450 is the better choice for FSX.
I assume that the better the drivers (like the new 260.99) get, the new Fermi architecture of the 450 will take the lead. On the other hand it's only 128bit and the 250 is 256bit.....

Oh well, not an easy decision.....

txnetcop
November 27th, 2010, 11:36
Depending on which GTS450 you get the gain would come from 192 processor cores but the down-side is 128 bit interface-low bandwidth for FSX. It would be better to wait for a decent 256 bit interface GTX460 1GB. Even a low-end 192bit GTX 460 would be a better buy than any GTS450, because you get 336 processor cores on even the lowest GTX460. Gigabyte makes a very good GTX460 192 bit and 256bit

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390 $149.99

falcon409
November 27th, 2010, 11:40
Yep, that's what I needed. . .I made the same mistake when I bought the 9800GT many years ago only to find out that the 8400 would have actually been a better choice. . .live and learn.

Thanks guys!:salute:

bstolle
November 27th, 2010, 21:41
Unfortunately the 460 is not an option for me as there's no fanless version aviable from the company which has specialized on totally fanless PCs. It would have been my choice as well.
As FSX is rather CPU dependent and only DX9/10, would you recommend the 420 or the 450?

For high performance they offer only the HD5770 and HD5870 and FSX and ATI is a combination I want to avoid.

However I hope there will be a noticable improvement switching from my 640MB 8800GTS

Best regards

Bernt

txnetcop
November 28th, 2010, 03:51
Bernt whereas you really only have the two choices I don't think you will notice that much difference between the GT420 and GTS 450, but the GTS 450 comes with 1GB of RAM and that does help, but again both are 128 bit interface. They made that little GT420 FERMI pretty powerful for the money you pay, but still not as powerful as even the GTS 450. Good luck hope this works out well for you!
Ted

noddy
November 28th, 2010, 05:53
Ted pointed me towards the GTX460, and they do perform very well.

falcon409
November 29th, 2010, 04:16
Ted pointed me towards the GTX460, and they do perform very well.
Only thing about these cards is that as soon as you move away from the 128bit to anything higher, the price goes way up, lol (obviously). I'm trying to find a better card than the 9600GT that I'm using now, something that will improve the overall experience short of upgrading to a new CPU "AND" Video card together. Unfortunately, the cold hard fact is that at this point it appears that big bucks is the reality of it all, that, or stay where I am and put up with stutters, blurries and low autogen settings.

txnetcop
November 29th, 2010, 05:03
Only thing about these cards is that as soon as you move away from the 128bit to anything higher, the price goes way up, lol (obviously). I'm trying to find a better card than the 9600GT that I'm using now, something that will improve the overall experience short of upgrading to a new CPU "AND" Video card together. Unfortunately, the cold hard fact is that at this point it appears that big bucks is the reality of it all, that, or stay where I am and put up with stutters, blurries and low autogen settings.

That is the price you pay with 128 bit interface, of course if your PC is not set up correctly you can still have stutters, such low bandwidth memory, BIOS improperly set up, low GHz CPU etc, you can have the right video card but have it set up wrong as well. I remember you bought a pretty new build so a good 256 bit video card should make a world of difference.
Ted