P-51D Mustang ‘Cadillac of the Skies’ for FSX Part 1 Restored - OUT NOW!

[WarBert]

North American's Classic Iconic aircraft takes to the skies with a new and unique series of sets specially designed for FSX

Restored examples as they fly today across the world are represented in this series and not detracting from the historical importance of this iconic aircraft either since these are some of the finest representations of the breed!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Using ORIGINAL North American plans and blueprints and working from literally thousands of photographs and sketches incorporating three years of extensive research and development. This is THE enthusiasts definitive version that many have long been waiting for brought to life with loving care and stunning attention to detail.

Represented in this definitive work of rare and unique models of the thoroughbread fighter are a host of details from the small but significant to the spectacular. This is as close as you will get to flying the real P-51D in FSX!<o:p></o:p>
The following aircraft are included in this unique and highly-detailed package:<o:p></o:p>
SEVEN DIFFERENT & UNIQUE AIRCRAFT AS THEY FLY TODAY!
Packard Merlin Sound Set as recorded in the real cockpit on the day with
Complete Livery Package (see details below) for every version inc. subtle changes!

P-51D-30NA - 'Happy Jack's Go Buggy'
P-51D-20NA - 'Upupa Epops'
F-6D-25NT - 'Lil' Margaret'
P-51K-10NT - 'Fragile But Agile'
P-51D-25NT - 'NACA 127'
P-51D-25NA - 'Ferocious Frankie'
P-51D-25NA - 'Vintage Wings Of Canada' <o:p></o:p>
www.warbirdsim.com (http://www.warbirdsim.com/)<o:p></o:p>

[jankees]

downloading as I type...

[Bomber_12th]

For all new users, be sure to read through the features, several of which may not preset themselves all too clearly within the sim! For example, within the cockpit, you can choose to either have the pilot wearing a common, modern, Air Force HGU-55/P helmet, or a period-correct WWII flight helmet and goggles. Separately, you may choose to raise and lower, either the visor or the goggles, depending on selected head-gear. Accurate payload-switches within the cockpit allow you to load whatever payload is available per the individual aircraft - whether it be 108-gallon paper tanks, 75-gallon metal tanks, or 500-lbs replica bombs. By defualt, no payload will be shown (as requested by many a multi-player/AI involved flight-simmer). The variants that come equiped with a K-14A gun sight installed, allow you to remove the gun sight if desired (some pilots/owners decide to remove the sight on any long trip, or any aerobatic display for added visibility over the nose).

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image12-4.jpg

[Barfly]

Also downloading now...

[jankees]

a few shots:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7299.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7309.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7312.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7314.jpg

wonderful stuff!!

:salute::salute::salute:

but they're so clean......

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7304.jpg

it looks ...a bit naked...

[AndyE1976]

Will definitely be getting this just as soon as I have flying time again. Looks superb.

[Odie]

Will be home in a bit and a'downloading we will go!

[huub vink]

Some pictures....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/HJGB-final_1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/L-Marg-final.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Upupa-final_1.jpg

But the best parts are definitely the VCs, which are all different and exact copies of the real aircraft.

Cheers,
Huub

[Cleartheprop]

Looks fan-tas-tic !

[jp]

Looks great, Ill be buying this I think!

JP

[jeansy]

downloading as I type...

hope you do some RAAF paints

[Barfly]

Lots of nice detailing all over the model, seems very authentic both from a distance and close up. Flight model is very nice, sounds are fantastic - question though - what is that famous whine the plane makes at speed (only audible from outside) - I've alternately heard gun port whistle, and radiator intake noise...

[Bomber_12th]

Barfly, the whistle is mainly a result of wind passing through the gun ports at high speed. Some Mustangs are more pronounced than others in this regard.
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Jeansy, I will have to try and see about creating authentic RAAF Mustangs, down the road. In this particular product, each cockpit and exterior is different, modeled specifically to match only the individual variant it is intended for - as a result, there is a lot of individual aspects of the model and texture work for each type, that is different from one to the other, making it unique to that particular variant. No longer will you see the exact same cockpit, or exterior details, from one Mustang to the next, either through production models, or individual restorations.

[Bomber_12th]

One of the great things about this build, is that finally access could be had to a large collection of original NAA engineering drawings, so that a majority of the components were modeled right off of the original parts and assembly drawings. The result is that, for instance, when you are sitting in the cockpit, the perspectives are the exact same that you have in the real aircraft - the distances between parts, the proportions and dimensions, are all accurate. There was nothing modeled or textured that wasn't crossed referenced probably three or four times or more, through drawings, dimensions, photos, talking with 3 Mustang restorers, a Mustang maintainer, several pilots, and discerning Mustang-modelers, life-long researchers, and artists, which all provided their own unique contributions.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image6-6.jpg

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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image3-7.jpg

[Naki]

hope you do some RAAF paints

..and RNZAF.:salute:

[Cirrus N210MS]

wow looks nice was the price in USD?

:salute:

[Ian Warren]

I promised myself a Mustang and this will be the first one i have brought so its chocks away :salute:
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[Cirrus N210MS]

whats the usd on this plane?

[Meshman]

39.44USD by today's exchange rate, says Google.

[Cirrus N210MS]

not bad may have to get it some time

[jeansy]

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Jeansy, I will have to try and see about creating authentic RAAF Mustangs, down the road. In this particular product, each cockpit and exterior is different, modeled specifically to match only the individual variant it is intended for - as a result, there is a lot of individual aspects of the model and texture work for each type, that is different from one to the other, making it unique to that particular variant. No longer will you see the exact same cockpit, or exterior details, from one Mustang to the next, either through production models, or individual restorations.

oh goodie :salute:

[Cirrus N210MS]

I am a Big Fan of the P51D aircraft i cant wait o try this one i allready Love the F1 P51D cant wait to try this when i have some more spending money:salute:

[skyhawka4m]

ok...paid via paypal....when do we get our download link?


This is like paying for a piece of tail and someone else gets it........this is killing me.......I want my P-51D!! :salute:

[Cirrus N210MS]

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[Javis]

Congratulations with your new masterpiece, Johnnyboy !! :applause::applause::applause:

Your B/C model is a masterpiece already of course but with this new D model you have really outdone yourself ! It's a true WORK OF ART both inside and out and both in the 3D modelling and texture department. I can see now why you have been so quiet around here during the last year. What a wonderful surprise !! Came like a lightning strike out of a blue sky, didn't even have a clue you were working on it ! :cool:

The Merlin sound is very nice as well but i'm not too sure about the 'whine' ..... Don't you think it might be a bit too exaggerated ? ( i love a high speed low pass along the runway and then watch it in Replay while standing aside of the runway. It's almost only the whine you'd hear then and there seems to be no doppler effect at all coming into to play... ) It pretty much spoils the exitement of such a scenario. Maybe seal off the gunports in a few models ?.... :)

Have to say i am an itsy bitsy dissapointed in the pilot sitting there like a lifeless mannequin, John.... especially because it is superbly modelled ( love the HGU-55, well done, mate ! ) I'd say get some well deserved rest and then sink your teeth into some of that skin&bones animation, breath some life into that gallant looking Mustang driver. He surely deserves it, you know ! :cool:

Anyway, i just wanted to say that my A-11 or HGU-55 is off to you for your more than excellent and outstanding work on this 'hobbyhorse' of yours ( almost mine too, i happen to love the Spitfire just a tiny bit better.. :) ). You have come a long way in 3D modelling in such relatively short time ( texturing has been second nature too you for a looong time already, hasn't it... :cool:), and it is truly amazing what you have achieved !

Kudos to you, my friend ! :medals::ernae:

Cheers,
Jan

[skyhawka4m]

sure wish I could be flying mine..........guess this is gonna be another waiting game. :sleep:

[Kiwikat]

Yay, yet another P-51D.

I'll be waiting for the "other" one. I think you know which one I mean... :wavey:

[DX-FMJ]

Will this be sold at simmarket also?

[Cirrus N210MS]

found this COol Video Online showing This plane! now i really want IT!

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[SADT]

Me want bad! :salute:

3-D Gauges? Is the supercharger switch functional?

[jim]

$40 Instant download. Load it into FSX; No nonsense, code or any other stuff. Up and away! Boy oh boy It's easier to fly than the "B" model. Love it, just love it.:jump::jump::applause:

[skyhawka4m]

Download link was in my spam folder........not sure why it went there but downloading now.

[Ian Warren]

(only audible from outside) - I've alternately heard gun port whistle, and radiator intake noise...

The Whistle is a little to over done 'well over the top ', funny soon soon as i heard i it i compared it to a DB-603 from the ME109 as it faced me in Wanaka - this Muzzie has to many whistles glued to it , .. over this time off the year in we have our friendly P-51 driver taken all for a spin and the aircraft is more attuned to a Spitfire .. no obvious reason

The external model is superb , almost each panel was hand made shown by the textures in the panels , Internal again absolute !

I do believe the sound set needs to be looked at .

Cheers Mister Ian
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[stiz]

looks absolutly stunning! however like kiwi, i'm waiting for that other one, if i wasnt i'd be extremly hard pushed to not buy it though, still enjoying the B/C models :)

[jankees]

I've been playing with it a bit more, and I agree with Jan, the pilot is a bit of a dead fish, he just sits there. And why is he always wearing an oxygen mask when wearing the old helmet?
I also agree with Ian, that howl is extremely annoying, I even looked at the sound file for the first time in my life. Wind2 is the culprit, how can that be toned down? I find myself flying just above stall speed to avoid that irritating sound...
Apart from that, John, your love for the P-51 is once again showing. Excellent job! Looks great, sounds great (apart from..), flies great too, just had the smoothest of landings...
There is just one other thing....so forgive me John, but I mistreated one of your babies..

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7329.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7339.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7345.jpg

I also noticed this is part 1...what will part 2 bring? unrestored?

[WarBert]

Folks,
Sorry you are finding the sound annoying. This whine was based on listening to various P-51Ds in the UK. Mainly Rob Davies 'Big Beautiful Doll', 'Ferocious Frankie' and Hangar 11 'Jumpin Jacques' They all have a very distinctive and quite loud whistle/whine.

Hadn't been done before so I really wanted to do it.
I though people would either love it or hate it but, I will address it for part 2

In the meantime inside the sound folder the config can be altered to the below, just put a couple of forward slashes in which kills the sound for you.

[wind_sound.1.01]
filename=//P51D_WIND2

Hope this helps,
Albert
www.warbirdsim.com

[Bomber_12th]

The whistle sound can be de-activated, simply by placing // marks in front of the Wind2-entry within the sound.cfg file, where then you will simply only hear the Merlin recordings. The inspiration for adding the authentic whistle, came from the high-spirited airshow displays in the UK, by pilots such as Peter Teichman, Rob Davies, and Alister Kay, at which times the whistle is very commonly heard. (Edit: Albert beat me. :) )

Research for this product began three years ago, and actual work going into the product began almost exactly two years ago. As a result of so much intensive detective work, using original engineering drawings, maintenance manuals, blueprint specifications, correspondance with the guys in-the-know, and what have you, you simply won't find a more accurately reproduced visual model of the P-51D, either inside or out, and I don't know if you ever will. It went far, far beyond simply looking at photos, and making a good recreation.

Jan Kees, personally I would rather fly a well-treated aircraft, lol, but the bit of weathering looks good. That, and the P-51D-30, as the restored "Happy Jack's Go Buggy" is, isn't really a WWII-type P-51D, as most all P-51D's that served in WWII were D-5's, D-10's, D-15's, and D-20's, which were very different aircraft. Most all D-30's were simply sent straight into storage, from production, in 1945, since there was already enough P-51D's in service. As a result, the RCAF got a lot of those D-30's - many of which now populate the warbird-P-51D inventory. There will be time to cover WWII-variants, I'm sure - and again, there has never been the real opportunity to fly a true D-5, D-10, or D-15 within flightsim.

[WarBert]

Just found this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiU3VpP2VhU&playnext=1&list=PL3882E35E7A2C47A1&index=50

Cool!
Albert
www.warbirdsim.com

[Bomber_12th]

Here is a little walk-around of sorts, within the cockpit of P-51D-30NA, "Happy Jack's Go Buggy", finished with all orginal paints, primers, and bare-metal finishes, just as there is in the restoration, exactly as it was when it came out of the factory in 1945.

All font-types are exact as originally used, on all stencils, placards, panels, gauges, stamps, and stickers.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image1-5.jpg

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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image6-4.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image5-3.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image7-3.jpg

Note the installation of a tall-profile Spitfire mirror, and a faired-over P-38 mirror. Both are fitted exactlly the same way, using the same hardware, as on the real "Happy Jacks' Go Buggy".

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image25-3.jpg

Note: Installation of the fuselage fuel tank, authentic fuel tank gauge in proper location, authentic radio rack designed using original engineering drawings, original radio box created using original engineering drawings, an authentic battery created using various side-profile photos, balsa wood wedges designed using original engineering drawings, and more...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image27-2.jpg

[Quicksand]

:jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop:

[Quicksand]

Beautiful work, John! Awesome release! I'm gonna be in deep doodoo with my "Minister of Finance" in the near future..:a1089::icon_eek:

[Bomber_12th]

Anytime a part had to be made, or a detail created, in which a photo or drawing couldn't be had (especially parts manufactured by other companies than NAA), it was a blessing having people like Mike VadeBonCoeur of Midwest Aero Restorations, and Glenn Wegman of Fighter Enterprises, Inc., two of the best in restoring Mustangs to factory original condition, provide me photos like these, which you can now see this power receptacle within the sim for the first time (note the distinct font-type of the Signal Lamp stencil - which is accurately recreated within this product):

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/IMG_7272s.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/P1100196s.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/P1100197s.jpg

[jankees]

John, in real life I'd probably prefer a brand new example too, but this a sim, and there I prefer them old and worn. This was just a quick edit to satisfy my strange tastes...

Just out of curiosity, what are the differences between the 5, 10, etc models?

and of course the p-word...any plans for a paintkit?

[Bomber_12th]

Without wanting to elaborate further, here are the original NAA documents listing the changes from the D-5 to the D-10, from the D-10 to the D-15, and from the D-15 to the D-20. Accompanying this, I have photos from all D model-variant cockpits, including the prototype. Even little items such as the gear-indicator lights placard, changed throughout production, while more important items, such as the electrical panels, armor plate, gear wells, all changed throughout production models.

First, the D-10 changes from the D-5:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/BLOCK_10_5_1.jpg

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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/BLOCK_10_5_6.jpg

Next, the D-15 changes from the D-10:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/BLOCK_15_10_1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/BLOCK_15_10_2.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/BLOCK_15_10_3.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/BLOCK_15_10_4.jpg

[Bomber_12th]

And finally, the D-20 changes from the D-15:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/BLOCK_20_15_1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/BLOCK_20_15_2.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/BLOCK_20_15_3.jpg

All of these documents are provided by John Melson. Changes would continue to occur from the D-20 to the D-25, and from the D-25 to the D-30.

[Bomber_12th]

An idea of the canopy variations from one variant to the next, provided by Charles Neely. This product features both the mid/typical California canopy (as normally found on restorations), as well as the early/typical Dallas canopy (on Happy Jack's Go Buggy).

The California canopy was modeled using the original engineering drawings, as they exist for that particular canopy. However, no drawings exist for the Dallas canopy, so I had to build it using some excellent side-profile photos.

Another variation that one can spot, between the D-20 "Upupa Epops" and the D-30 "Happy Jack's Go Buggy" is a difference in canopy-mounted antenna wire guides, which are completely different.

Marked as California #1(-2), this canopy was only ever fitted to the D-5, one of the ways in which the D-5 has such a distinctively different look than later production models - as all later canopies had the highest-section of the canopy moved forward, above the pilot's head.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Neely_Canopy_Types.jpg

[Bomber_12th]

Here is just a quick comparison between the accurately-restored P-51D-20 "Upupa Epops", and the accurately-restored P-51D-30 "Happy Jack's Go Buggy". The paintwork through the cockpit and rear cockpit, as well as various equipment, is different (Note the different gear-indicator positions, which are both accurate to the type - the gyro compass, gyro horizon, and tachometer are different as well - early and late types. Also note the early and late design throttle levers).

"Upupa Epops"
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/D-20NA.jpg

"Happy Jack's Go Buggy"
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/D-30NA.jpg

[Bomber_12th]

Enjoying some free-time last night, with the P-51K "Fragile But Agile", a true Pacific-war veteran, and one of the newest restorations. Owned by Dan Friedkin, it has been used as part of the "Horsemen" routine, late this past airshow season.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image1-7.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image2-8.jpg

[SpaceWeevil]

ok...paid via paypal....when do we get our download link?


This is like paying for a piece of tail and someone else gets it........this is killing me.......I want my P-51D!! :salute:

Just a thought, but quite a few e-mails I've had from Warbirdsim tripped my spam filter and had to be rescued from the trash - worth a look?

[Bomber_12th]

Hi SpaceWeevil - that is what occured, as Skyhawk has posted, later on in this thread. All sorted now I'd take it. ;)

[Cirrus N210MS]

looks Nice i wanna get The plane need to find out how much it is too bad there website does not show USD on it only EURO :salute:

[Bomber_12th]

Cirrus, I've replied to your PM, so the answer is there.

[stiz]

those are pounds actually :)

and for conversions http://www.xe.com/ucc/

[OleBoy]

John

One simple sentence to sum it up. Your work is just amazing. You're a well accomplished craftsman doing what you do for the flightsim community.
....I've seen your work right before my eyes with stick in hand. The level of detail had a huge wow factor with me in your previous work. In my eyes you are a great asset to the history of the P-51 with your ability to represent it in such a real form. I'm not a historian. I don't know one model from the next.

Everything about the one I had the chance to fly had my eyes open wide in amazement. It was such a great experience to be there.

I remember speaking to you some time ago about my interests of purchase as I would love to have it. I had a real hard time being in control well enough to feel in control while flying. It wasn't a beginners model. Landings were a real challenge and far to fast for a tail dragger configuration. For me. After several attempts of flying it, I sadly had to pass on my purchase because it would likely never get flown much. Atleast not the way it's meant to be. For those that can manage to truly fly the mustang by the numbers and in full control, your P-51 is a great simulation experience.

Never stop doing what you do. You're a great asset to bringing aircraft back to life for everyone to experience.

[SpaceWeevil]

Hi SpaceWeevil - that is what occured, as Skyhawk has posted, later on in this thread. All sorted now I'd take it. ;)

I'm quite used to being last with the news! Glad he's sorted anyway. I can feel an early Christmas present coming on - this just looks too good to pass up.

[Bomber_12th]

Having been so long since the last product release, I had lost my trouble-shooting knowledge, otherwise I would have been much more of a help to you than I was, SkyHawk! :) I hope tonight you'll be able to fully enjoy it, as you had hoped to last night.

[Cag40Navy]

Looks very nice! Awesome work! I will buy very soon. Bomber, i have also sent a PM on a different subject matter. (unless it did not get sent.)

[Cirrus N210MS]

just leting you guys know from what pay pal Says planes in USD IS $40.43 USD

Just order my Plane! so I am Happy now

[Bomber_12th]

OleBoy, thank you very, very much for your message, I greatly appreciate it! Creating this first P-51D Mustang product, I think I learned more about the Mustang than probably is mentally-safe, and I'm glad it sounds like it shows. :) Up until this build, I simply figured that one P-51D was the same as any other P-51D, regardless of the production block, though obviously different through each restoration. Over time I began to realize just how much things changed from one P-51D production block to the next, and even the changes that occurred right during the middle of a production block, creating early and late versions of the same D-20, D-25, etc. Well what an opportunity to be had, to finally see what a proper D-20 looks like in the sim, and compare it to a proper D-30, allowing each aircraft within the product to be uniquely individual, just as they really are! Plus, it is so great to finally have an F-6D, fitted out with all of the same, original camera-operation equipment on the interior, and the camera ports, camera, and authentic wing and canopy marks - or a P-51K, with the special prop spinner and accurate Aeroproducts prop blades. As you can tell, this product was designed for my use, just as much as it is for anyone else. :)

[Cirrus N210MS]

well I am goto have fun trying my new P51 out ! here in a Few sec bomber and if you need any photos i have Lots of P51 Photos from EAA 2010 and EAA 2007 and EAA 2004

[Marlin]

Absolutely amazing :salute::applause::salute:

Congrats

[Bomber_12th]

Cirrus, I am always open to seeing new photos of Mustangs! EAA 2007 and 2004 were actually some of the years that I didn't get out to Oshkosh. If you have any photos of "Daddy's Girl", that would be great!

I did just start cleaning out a lot the images I have had on my system, much more than I needed - at one time, I had more than 1,000 images, just for use in building this product, but most of which were from within the cockpits, of various little details.

[Bomber_12th]

By the way, anyone notice the two different serial numbers on the tail of "Fragile But Agile"? Don't worry, this is completely accurate. The aircraft itself is really 44-12016. However, period photos show that the left-side of the rudder was painted as 44-12018, a mistake that was made when the last three numbers were applied again, after the tail markings were painted in the field. Within the restoration, this was copied. The actual 44-12018, wasn't assigned to the same squadron as Fragile But Agile.

The family of Lt. Bert Lee, the original pilot of this very aircraft, were able to see the aircraft for the first time, a few months back, shortly after the aircraft was finished. While piloted by Bert Lee, however, the aircraft wasn't yet known as "Fragile But Agile", though his marks are left directly below the canopy, found still scratched into the original metal.

[Cirrus N210MS]

all i can say is wow! this P-51 Is Better then my Flight1 P51 By 900 times! way Better Frame Rates Better Handling and the Flight Panel is By Far Better then theres could have ever been!

i give Your P-51 10 of 10

My NEW FAV P-51 Mustang :salute: Good work Warbird SIM

[skyhawka4m]

Having been so long since the last product release, I had lost my trouble-shooting knowledge, otherwise I would have been much more of a help to you than I was, SkyHawk! :) I hope tonight you'll be able to fully enjoy it, as you had hoped to last night.


All is well bomber! she is awesome! I only took her up for a quick spin this morning but I will be doing a bunch tonight after family issues are taken care of.


Just a quick question...is there a key to make the doors bleed off when on the ramp? and also make the pilot disappear?


Again bomber thanks for your help and a wonderful plane and I look forward to more versions and paints.

[Bomber_12th]

SkyHawk - without delving into any 'black-magic', the clamshell doors do drop open, when the engine is shut down, and the red hydraulic T-handle is pulled. They fall completely down in about 5-7 seconds, accurate to the real thing.

There has been a myth, for quite some time (started by plastic model builders), that when dumping the hydraulic pressure, the flaps will come down too - which is completely false. On a poorly-kept Mustang, the flaps will lose pressure over time, and will fall, but it can take hours, sometimes days, for them to drop fully - a properly-kept Mustang, with a tight system, the flaps will not fall after shut down. The common practice amongst Mustang pilots is to drop the flaps, just before shut down, so that there isn't any pressure being held in the lines.

[Cirrus N210MS]

MY NEW REPAINT FOR MY NEW P51!!

[Gibbage]

I gotta say, as someone who has modeled the P-51 many times, its not an easy bird to capture. She looks simple, but has many many small complex curvs on it. This model I think captures the feel of the P-51 better then any others I have seen so far, and not only that, but it gets good frame rate? Top notch work guys! Nice to have a good Runstang D in the sky! :salute:

[Bomber_12th]

I guess it helps that I have an older machine - the important thing is that it runs okay on my computer, right? ;) Thank you Kevin!

It is interesting how flat certain areas really are, especially over the nose, or how the spine contours up into the canopy frame, or how much the top of the vertical fin strakes back, etc. - all areas that were checked, double-checked, and checked again. Of course things like the laminar airfoil, radiator scoop, carb intake, landing gear strake, were all given the same scrutiny.

[Cirrus N210MS]

how do i get my drop tanks for long range?

[Bomber_12th]

As this image indicates, you must click on the either of the two right-side arming switches, for the tanks to load. Some variants have 75-gallon tanks, some have 108-gallon tanks, and some have no tanks at all. They can be released (in an emergency of course!) by clicking on the "Train Bombs" switch, also pictured, and then either clicking on the top control stick button, to release both tanks, or by clicking on the individual, manual release levers, below the engine control unit, which will drop the tanks one at a time.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/payload-1.jpg

By default, just as in the restored aircraft, you only have the option to fill the left and right main wing tanks. The fuselage tank and wing tanks, if in-place, are really just for display, even if functional. However, both 75-gallon and 108-gallon external fuel tank entries are provided for within the aircraft.cfg file. Simply remove the // marks from one of the sets of external tanks, and then you can fill them with fuel in the sim (activating both 75 and 108 gallon tanks really won't work, nor is it accurate).

[fuel]
Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
fuel_type = 1
number_of_tank_selectors = 1
electric_pump=1
LeftMain = 0, -4.37, -2.28, 92, 0
RightMain = 0, 4.37, -2.28, 92, 0
//Center1 = -6.5, 0.0, 2.620, 85, 0 <- 85-Gallon Fuselage Fuel Tank
//External1 = 0, -7.51, -3.23, 108, 0 <- Left 108-Gallon Drop Tank
//External2 = 0, 7.51, -3.23, 108, 0 <- Right 108-Gallon Drop Tank
//External1 = 0, -7.51, -3.23, 75, 0 <- Left 75-Gallon Drop Tank
//External2 = 0, 7.51, -3.23, 75, 0 <- Right 75-Gallon Drop Tank

[Bomber_12th]

Some more images I have on file:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/lilmargaretrocketports.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image3-6.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image2-7.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image11-3.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image14-4.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image9-3.jpg

Glowing gauge faces under UV-light - though not by Radium of course!
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image28-4.jpg

[Cirrus N210MS]

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/hotshotmike1001/N210MSOVEREDWARDS.jpg

[Sundog]

Wow, I was so busy reading the post on NACA 127, I hadn't seen this. OMW to download!!! :)

[SirBenn21]

Sorry to pee on the parade, but was it not just problems from this company a while back when they released the P51?

Is it safe to buy???

I love to support, but I'm to old for bull?!? Life is just to short.

Ben

[Bomber_12th]

Sorry to pee on the parade, but was it not just problems from this company a while back when they released the P51?

Is it safe to buy???

I love to support, but I'm to old for bull?!? Life is just to short.

Ben

Rectified moons ago, Ben! Should be no worries. ;)

As indicated by another member in this thread - purchase, download, install, and you're good to go!

[doublecool]

Could not help myself :jump:
It said 2 to 7 days to receive :banghead:

Really looking forward to another Brilliant Mustang Bomber. I wish you much success:wavey:

[jp]

It said that on mine, but it only took ten minutes. Worry not, you who are on the fence... It is worth it! By the way, I really like the whistling sound. I know some do not, but I feel it makes it much more realistic and closer to the actual aircraft. Initially I was worried, but after I heard it, it was a non issue, sounds just like that video. So if you're worried about the company and download,etc; don't be.

JP

[doublecool]

Warbirdsim has done Good :wiggle: What a beauty... Well Done!

Thanks again Bomber :wavey: Can't wait to see what you're thinking of after the Mustangs

PS Fighter Leaders is still an all time Favorite of Mine

[Fireball6]

The screenshots of this bird looks realy awesome - also the video. It looks like this Mustang is a must have for every "Warbird"-Fan. Stunning "artwork"! Maybe i should try again .....

[PRB]

This looks like a winner. I have the P-51B/C for both FS9 and FSX, but currently only have the FS9 one installed. This Warbirdsim outfit makes some of the best looking ships out there for FS. The screen shots for this one look fantastic. After the FSX P-51B/C activation experience I admit to being a bit reluctant to get this one, but after John answered this question, my credit card is once again locked and loaded. I may not be able to resist... :icon_lol:

[Gibbage]

It is interesting how flat certain areas really are, especially over the nose, or how the spine contours up into the canopy frame, or how much the top of the vertical fin strakes back, etc. - all areas that were checked, double-checked, and checked again. Of course things like the laminar airfoil, radiator scoop, carb intake, landing gear strake, were all given the same scrutiny.

The two area's that gave me the most problems was the area just forward of the radiator intake (you have the wings, body, and landing gear/wheel well all meeting up in the same area) and the area just aft of the spinner, and forward of the canopy. There are a LOT of curvs in there that people simply dont see! They had to cram that engine in there, and fold aluminum around it till it was smooth. Both very difficult, but I think you nailed them! Good luck with sales on this!

P.S. Planning an H by any chance? ;) I know it would take SIGNIFICANT work if not a 100% new model though. The H was a totally differant bird in almost every way, and I dont think the market could support it, but one can always dream. Just thinking of a P-51D, that has 2200HP, and about 2000lb lighter......

[Bomber_12th]

The two area's that gave me the most problems was the area just forward of the radiator intake (you have the wings, body, and landing gear/wheel well all meeting up in the same area) and the area just aft of the spinner, and forward of the canopy. There are a LOT of curvs in there that people simply dont see! They had to cram that engine in there, and fold aluminum around it till it was smooth. Both very difficult, but I think you nailed them! Good luck with sales on this!

P.S. Planning an H by any chance? ;) I know it would take SIGNIFICANT work if not a 100% new model though. The H was a totally differant bird in almost every way, and I dont think the market could support it, but one can always dream. Just thinking of a P-51D, that has 2200HP, and about 2000lb lighter......

Kevin, an H-model definitely would be a whole new model from scratch, and we won't be going in that direction. In regard to this, we had originally planned to use the P-51B as a base for the D-model, but it became a whole new build, and it ended up being that there was nothing carried over from the B-model product at all.

There will still be plenty of attention being focused on the P-51D, for a while, though a complete set of engineering drawings for an entirely new aircraft, from an entirely different manufacturer, to begin next year, will be in the mail soon. ;)

[skyhawka4m]

hmmmmmm....come on now....hint hint.....

[Gibbage]

Looking forward too it! Better not be something from Lockheed that rymes with "mightning" ;)

[PRB]

hmmmmmm....come on now....hint hint.....

Indeed, come clean, what is it? We gots to know!! :icon_lol:

[Bomber_12th]

Kevin, you most certainly already did the Lightning justice, and I am more than satisfied with it - one of the most flown aircraft in my virtual hangar!

For those who have yet to notice, you can turn on the K-14A gun sight, through using the gun sight control box. On it you will find a red circuit breaker button, which turns on the power for the sight. When it is turned on, the reticle will appear, and when in flight, the reticle is coded to respond just as it would from gyro computing-inputs, when you maneuver the aircraft around. Further more you can adjust the size of the reticle, using the range dial on the side of the gun sight housing. A switch on the gun sight control box allows you to turn on/off the fixed cross-hair, which is also projected onto the gun sight glass.

I was fortunate enough to be provided a photo of a functioning K-14A, with power turned on, so I was able to get the exact look of the reticle, very, very close.

Here is an original diagram showing the proper use of the K-14, using the projected reticle and fixed cross hair, combined:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/P-51DK_03.jpg

[Naki]

I am pretty keen on this one...might have to pick it up when the finances are right.....

I am hoping the new Warbird project is a P-40E and/or N, SeaFury, Corsair or Yak-3..:salute:

[Bomber_12th]

Naki, you must be a mind-reader! In a perfect world, with no need for sleep, I'd say all four! ;)

[JIMJAM]

Ive been simming since Microprose F-19 and musta bought or flown hundreds and hundreds of addons. I need another Mustang like another fsx.cfg tweek but my weakness for the plane kicked in and last night I bought her.
Dam fine plane and one of the best flying and over fun to buzz around in I have flown.
Easy on the fps and the best sounding engine of any warbird Ive flown.
One of the top 10 FSX Warbirds planes Imo.
Great work.:applause:

[skyhawka4m]

I'm hoping for that late model F4U-5....:salute:

[Cirrus N210MS]

just finished my first real Flight KHII TO F70 Flight time 13 min

SPEED 300MPH

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/hotshotmike1001/P51DMustangMargarel.jpg

[guzler]

Will have to give in to this one. The b/c model gets alot of air time on my rig, this is going to get even more ! Simply beautiful

[swimeye]

Yeah I could not withstand the urge to buy this one, it looks amazing. Order is send. May my wife forgive me :jump:

[MDIvey]

at last an FSX native P51D that looks just right from every angle and the attention to detail is amazing... I had every confidence it would be based on the B/C models which I bought when they came out... but I was still pleasantly surprised... thank you John & Co

Matt

[Creepy847]

worth every penny. After buying the B and C I knew I would pick up the D. Well Ive only had afew minutes to fly it, but it simply amazing so far.

Thanks for giving me another great Pony...

R/S

Creepy847
www.throttleback.net (http://www.throttleback.net)

[Fireball6]

Hmmm - after all your comments and all the great pics i jumped over my shaddow and bought her - now i am still waiting for a download-link. Hope to be able to fly her soon .......

[Bomber_12th]

Again, everyone, if you don't seem to get an e-mail shortly after you place your order, be sure to check your spam folder just incase! ;)

Thank you all so very much for your comments and feedback, it means a heck of a lot to both Albert and I!

[Fireball6]

I`ve checked the spam-folder a few times - nothing in there - if i can do something else on my side, please contact me via pm. Thanks for your efforts.

[wombat666]

<o:p></o:p>Jeansy, I will have to try and see about creating authentic RAAF Mustangs, down the road. In this particular product, each cockpit and exterior is different, modeled specifically to match only the individual variant it is intended for - as a result, there is a lot of individual aspects of the model and texture work for each type, that is different from one to the other, making it unique to that particular variant.

FWIW, RAAF CAC Mustangs were finished overall in aluminium dope.
The first batch that arrived in 1945 appear to be finished to the USAF standard of aluminium doped main-planes (as in filled, rubbed down, filled, rubbed down again and finally doped to preserve that nice laminar flow aerofoil) and (mostly) bare metal panels on the balance of the air frame.
The RAAF and CAC seemed to have used that aluminium dope on just about everything, Mustangs, Avon Sabres, CAC Mirages and even our Macchis.
A blessing for any of us who built RAAF models, I even managed to scrounge several litres of the 'real thing'.
:australia:

[tommieboy]

Kevin, an H-model definitely would be a whole new model from scratch, and we won't be going in that direction....



DOH!
I was going to hold out for the H model myself. :pop4:

Tommy

[Fireball6]

Everything fine now - got my download-link. My first impression is - wow, fantastic plane. Gentleman, Hats off!

[Barfly]

Is there a good virtual group that flies WW2 era birds?

[swimeye]

Yes, everything ran very smoothly, the order was processed very fast and a download link was sent to me, download was fast and installation was flawless. First flight was amazing, excellent. I think the whistling noise is a very cool feature, especially when you buzz the tower in tower view.
Superb job, i am a happy returning customer. :jump:

[Stickshaker]

Fantastic plane, John and team! Glad I bought yet another Mustang because this one is really outstanding!

[dougal]

How does this compare to the A2A?

Any point in having both APART from the restored aspect?

Thanks

[heydon2008]

Rulings on the Internet are talking about
New film about the Tuskegee airman called "redtails" directed
By George Lucas . Would it be possible at
Some future date for a repaints for this new and excellent
Warbirdsim p51d in the Tuskegee colours, maybe jankees, he
Did and excellent repaint for me for the flight leader
P51 b by warbirdsim maybe he might be kind enough
To do another one ?

[Quicksand]

Got mine today.... OUTSTANDING PRODUCT!!!!! Congrats Warbirdsim on this release... Absolutely eye-popping detail in the model! Thank you!!!!:salute::jump::ernae:

[ColoKent]

....Also, any thought to adding another helmet (early jet P4B comes to mind) option for those of us who want to do the early/mid-50's ANG thing?

Kent

[Bomber_12th]

As far as a paintkit, the trouble is that each variant is uniquely modeled separately, to match an actual, specific, P-51 Mustang. This is of course a concept that has never been done before, but as a result, you are provided a new experience with each variant, both inside and out. Each interior and exterior, uniquely matches only that specific aircraft it is made for.

[Bomber_12th]

How does this compare to the A2A?

Any point in having both APART from the restored aspect?

Thanks

Dougal, if it is any help, please read my posts throughout this thread, my individual threads about the Upupa Epops and NACA variants, and read through the information provided on the Warbirdsim site. There was certainly hundreds of reasons, or more, that this product needed to be made - none of which are in respect to these being restored types. ;)

[Rezabrya]

Bomber, it may not be for you to say, but do you think there will be a sale any time in the coming holidays? I really want this plane, but I don't know that I can spend that much. Will a discount be offered for people who have already bought the B & C varients?

[Ian Warren]

John & Albert , now this is intriguing "P-51D Mustang ‘Cadillac of the Skies’ for FSX Part 1" what s in the next part ? :wavey:

Cheers Ian
www.nzff.org
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[Naki]

Yes I am also interested to know what the next models are for the P-51D. I'm not sure whether I should get this one or wait for a RNZAF P-51D (if there is one..but I guess somebody could do a repaint)..which presumably will be in a more orginal configuration and not a restored warbird...I'm leaning towards a restored example though as that is how I like to fly my Warbirds in FSX.


Naki, you must be a mind-reader! In a perfect world, with no need for sleep, I'd say all four! ;)

That narrows it down considerably!...I'm really hoping that its a later model P-40........but I would be happy with any those I mentioned.

[ColoKent]

....that if someone is a psycho freak for ABSOLUTE realism, they would roll up in a ball knowing that a repaint of these models are not "strictly accurate".

Bottom line-- I'm not one of those people....so repainting schemes I like trump having 100% "accuracy".

Now that I think about it, I seem to remember the -B and -C models you produced do not have paints kits either...

Kent

[THibben]

I ordered mine hours ago and still haven't received an e-mail. It is not in my spam folder.
How long has been the typical wait time?

Tom

[skyhawka4m]

Kevin, an H-model definitely would be a whole new model from scratch, and we won't be going in that direction. In regard to this, we had originally planned to use the P-51B as a base for the D-model, but it became a whole new build, and it ended up being that there was nothing carried over from the B-model product at all.

There will still be plenty of attention being focused on the P-51D, for a while, though a complete set of engineering drawings for an entirely new aircraft, from an entirely different manufacturer, to begin next year, will be in the mail soon. ;)



Hmm.....as I do more thinking....I'm wondering if it might be a Spitfire? Maybe the variant Mr. Beasley flies?? Now that would be very nice!

[SADT]

Hi John,

Great work there! :salute:

Just to clarify things: Can the wing and fuselage tanks be activated so that someone is able to recreate a war ready aircraft? Or will war ready aircraft come in part 2? Also, is the supercharger gear change switch functional?

[Bomber_12th]

Craig,

Yes, the drop tanks and fuselage tank can be activated. If you look at the fuel section within the Aircraft.cfg file, 75 and 108 gallon external tank entries are already provided, as is the 85 gallon fuselage fuel tank. All you must do, to activate the set of tanks you want, is to delete the // marks in front of the individual fuel tank entries. Of course only one set of external tanks should be activated at any one given time.

The supercharger switch is not animated (as is, it is left in the automatic position), though the supercharger light will come on at between 19,000 and 20,000 feet, indicating the automatic shift.

[jankees]

As far as a paintkit, the trouble is that each variant is uniquely modeled separately, to match an actual, specific, P-51 Mustang. This is of course a concept that has never been done before, but as a result, you are provided a new experience with each variant, both inside and out. Each interior and exterior, uniquely matches only that specific aircraft it is made for.

But I wouldn't want a paintkit for each model..one would be enough.
If I'm not mistaken, Upopa Epops most closely resembles a stock WWII P-51D(-20-NA), so that would be my preference, paintkit-wise..
On the other hand, if you prefer it that the models are not repainted, then that is fine by me too!

[DaveQ]

As far as a paintkit, the trouble is that each variant is uniquely modeled separately, to match an actual, specific, P-51 Mustang. This is of course a concept that has never been done before, but as a result, you are provided a new experience with each variant, both inside and out. Each interior and exterior, uniquely matches only that specific aircraft it is made for.

I'm with Colokent on this one. Repainting the old A2A Mustang in (mainly) 8th AAF schemes was a long-time passion of mine (see avatar and signature!), using a mixture of John's excellent paint kit, the A2A kit and some bits of my own. It was possible to get very close to the external 'feel' of a working combat P-51, for instance very few examples ever shone like the current restored ones do. That's not to say I'm not incredibly impressed with this bird, artwork and all (bought it yesterday), but the ability to create your own variations and put your own stamp on it, is worth sacrificing a bit of authenticity in the cockpit IMHO. What do you say John??

Regards

DaveQ

[huub vink]

How does this compare to the A2A?

Any point in having both APART from the restored aspect?

Thanks

Well you can't actually really compare them. The A2A model was originally an FS9 model and has been upgraded twice to make it a native FSX model. The base model from A2A is still over five years old. However the Warbirdsim model is brand new and made with all possibilities from FSX in mind. Therefore it is much more detailed and far more accurate and John did a superb job on the textures.

The A2A Mustang is advertised as a model D Mustang. However there isn't really something like a model D Mustang.
As the D model has been produced over a reasonably long period, there were many changes which resulted in many different subversions. For instance the first versions had fabric covered control panels, however during the production this changed to complete metal control panels.
Sometimes there are even differences between aircraft from the same subversion or aircaft from the same subversion produced by different factories. The K-14 gunsight was introduced during the production of P51D-20NA subversion. The -25 blocks and later were fitted with attachment points for various forms of rockets and rocket launchers.
As the aircraft were equipped different the cockpit from most sub-versions were actually quite different.

The models by John are 'spot on' replicas from real aircraft which are still flying today. So all the differences in subtypes can be found in his models. But he took it even further. For instance even wear and tear on for instance floor panels is actually modelled after the real thing.
The restored F6 Lil'Margaret has only 2 camera ports, while the real F6 aircraft had 3 camara ports. As John made a model from 'Lil'Margaret' is has just 2 ports as well.

As the John's models are all representing real aircrafts the possibilities to make historical correct repaints are limited. Although 'Happy Jack-Go Bunny'and 'Upupa Epops' are restored extremely close to the original aircraft and would be nice candidates to be repainted.

Currently I have both the Warbirdsim as the A2A Mustang on my hard-disk. But due to the incredible quality of the Warbirdsim VC and external model, it is very unlikely I will ever fly the A2A model in the future.

Cheers,
Huub

[Carbine1]

It's just a wonderful aircraft, sounds very nice and looks fantastic.

Well done.

Cheers.

[dougal]

Well you can't actually really compare them. The A2A model was originally an FS9 model and has been upgraded twice to make it a native FSX model. The base model from A2A is still over five years old. However the Warbirdsim model is brand new and made with all possibilities from FSX in mind. Therefore it is much more detailed and far more accurate and John did a superb job on the textures.

The A2A Mustang is advertised as a model D Mustang. However there isn't really something like a model D Mustang.
As the D model has been produced over a reasonably long period, there were many changes which resulted in many different subversions. For instance the first versions had fabric covered control panels, however during the production this changed to complete metal control panels.
Sometimes there are even differences between aircraft from the same subversion or aircaft from the same subversion produced by different factories. The K-14 gunsight was introduced during the production of P51D-20NA subversion. The -25 blocks and later were fitted with attachment points for various forms of rockets and rocket launchers.
As the aircraft were equipped different the cockpit from most sub-versions were actually quite different.

The models by John are 'spot on' replicas from real aircraft which are still flying today. So all the differences in subtypes can be found in his models. But he took it even further. For instance even wear and tear on for instance floor panels is actually modelled after the real thing.
The restored F6 Lil'Margaret has only 2 camera ports, while the real F6 aircraft had 3 camara ports. As John made a model from 'Lil'Margaret' is has just 2 ports as well.

As the John's models are all representing real aircrafts the possibilities to make historical correct repaints are limited. Although 'Happy Jack-Go Bunny'and 'Upupa Epops' are restored extremely close to the original aircraft and would be nice candidates to be repainted.

Currently I have both the Warbirdsim as the A2A Mustang on my hard-disk. But due to the incredible quality of the Warbirdsim VC and external model, it is very unlikely I will ever fly the A2A model in the future.

Cheers,
Huub

Huub, thank you very much for your detailed and informative post. My wife won't be very happy with you though, 'cos I'll have to buy it now:jump:

[huub vink]

Huub, thank you very much for your detailed and informative post. My wife won't be very happy with you though, 'cos I'll have to buy it now:jump:

Please tell your wife I'm sorry, but also tell her it is a pretty good investment as it will definitely keep you happy!

Huub

[SpaceWeevil]

For years I have gazed longingly at Ferocious Frankie, Jumpin' Jacques, Big Beautiful Doll, Janie, Marinell and all the others. If I looked at women like that my partner would kill me - and yes, I know Jacques is a boy aeroplane! But it's mainly Frankie who steals my heart, with her scream that always roots me to the spot and gives me goosebumps. The picture doesn't do her justice, but this package is simply the best thing I've bought all year.

24240

[SADT]

Hi John,

I notice you have said that on the ground the tail warning radar is lamop lights up because it detcts something behind the aircraft - does it detect AI? Could simmers stage dogfights and use the radar set to know when they are behind eachother?:jump:

[Bomber_12th]

Craig, if I knew that it could be even possible to do something like that, I'd try to implement it for sure. ;) Inspiration for having it working as it does right now, came from a video I have seen, from within the cockpit of a Mustang which has a working tail warning radar installed, during landing - just shortly after the tail touches down, the light illuminates. I have read that on those which have the unit installed, when turned on, on the ground, it immediately starts working, picking up the terrain just behind the aircraft.

It is one of those features that really isn't important to the aircraft, but fairly cool to see working - turning on and off when you taxi, take off, and land again. The test switch works as well - which will leave the light illuminated as long as the test switch is left on.

[jankees]

Boy, she looks good from some angles!!!

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7476.jpg

[huub vink]

Euhmm... when I look at this very bare Mustang I have the feeling we can expect some repaints....

[Carbine1]

Enjoying a cruise in the Classic.

Cheers.

Mike.

[skyhawka4m]

Boy, she looks good from some angles!!!

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7476.jpg


qwhere is this skin??? this is what I want to have maybe with a buno......but exactly what I want.

[glennc]

Like THibben, I never got the e-mail reply either. I tried to register with the B and C models came out. I bought it from SimMarket when it came out there. I'll do the same with this package.

Question: I can't tell from most of the screen shots, but do the aircraft have their current registrations, or even fictional registrations from the correct countries? That's part of what I like about some of the B's ad C's

Glenn

[jankees]

Euhmm... when I look at this very bare Mustang I have the feeling we can expect some repaints....


qwhere is this skin??? this is what I want to have maybe with a buno......but exactly what I want.

eerrm, sorry, but no. This is strictly for personal consumption. A bit of photoshopping, that's all. I just wanted to see what she would look like without all that paint.
I'll wait with paints until the release of a paintkit.

[Bomber_12th]

Glenn, if after checking through your spam e-mails, please be sure to contact Warbirdsim support, and it will get sorted as soon as possible!

And to answer your question, each variant does have the real-life registration assigned to it - and for the variants based in the U.S. and Canada, the registration numbers are applied just as they are on the real aircraft - in England, for the certification that the Mustang falls under, it does not require a registration to be painted on the exterior, so it does not have one.

[WarBert]

Sorry for the issues a couple of you are having with emails not coming back.
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It is due to a combination of high security email settings and your provider blocking out the Warbirdsim return mails. If you ask them to unblock info@warbirdsim.com (info@warbirdsim.com), sales@warbirdsim.com (sales@warbirdsim.com) and support@warbirdsim.com (support@warbirdsim.com), then it should work. The alternative is to use a different email address for the order.<o:p></o:p>
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[jankees]

I must say John, that you've outdone yourself again on the bare metal, it looks great, even completely naked:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7480.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7498.jpg

somehow, I adore the shine around the nose, with the shiny steel plates, and the slightly duller aluminium, my favorite part so far!
The sheen on the rear fuselage as seen in the first shot is also outstanding!

[glennc]

Bomber, thanks. That adds to the appeal.

Glenn

[mohawk3]

Excellent model...This is a masterpiece!!Tahnk you, Warbirdsim!

Two things:almost all exterior stenciling is blurred ( not readable) &
...the manual have ...10 pages?!?!

[john99vette]

Glad Warbirdsim got the D model out. Really love all models of the '51. Waiting for Part 2

[Ian Warren]

Jeepers Jankees , you really like to tease us :icon_lol:
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[1970LT1]

Well, I've been buying payware for 10 years now, since the days of the Alphasim $9 CFS2 planes - great memories. This probably ranks up there more as a work of art and labor of realism than any release I can think of in recent memory, and that's a good thing. The concept of modeling individual restored planes is so different and innovative than anything I've seen. Congratulations! Also like the way you surprised us all.

But, and this is a big but, we've been dancing around the topic of repaints for 140 posts now and I haven't heard anything definative - it's almost like we're avoiding a difficult topic because no one wants to come out and say no repaints or no paint kit. I seem to remember that no repaints were allowed when the FS9 P-51B/C came out. There was a hue and cry, finally sanity prevailed, and repaints were allowed, much to the joy of the community - witness all the beautiful skins for those birds.

I submit that one of these models needs a repaint kit. Even more so because the current skins are an acquired taste for me. I'm sorry, but I'm used to and like the Blue Nosers, Big Beautiful Doll, the 357th and other famous wartime liveries. They can't be done enough. Not too mention the fact that the recent F1 P-51D (one of my favs), did not have a paint kit and has pretty much died - you never hear anything about it. I'm sorry, but with 7 little seen skins, and no paint kit, I find it hard to justify $40 on this add-on, even though it's freakkin' brilliant.

Just my two cents Warbirdsim. It will make the community happier and might get you a few more sales.

Regards,

LT1

[skyhawka4m]

Jeepers Jankees , you really like to tease us :icon_lol:
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Yes he does! What scheme did you start with as I may have to do this myself......I love flying a bare metal clean bird.

[dougal]

The lack of paintkit will have to be the deal breaker for me. Bizarre rearly, as I can't/dont actually do any repaints. I do soooooo enjoy and appreciate those that others do though.

As stated above already, the release paints are something of an acquired taste, and not for me.

It sounds like I'm missing a great bird, which is sad, but for the price, I'd want repaints. And, it's not like there's a shortage of other 51D models.

[swimeye]

We have now been blessed with part1, maybe the next parts contains other restored or historical P-51´s and the worth of that pack may be lowered if they allow repaints for part 1, because then it would be possible that repaints exist already for birds that are going to be released with part 2?

[WarBert]

Hi Folks,
We have a lot of aircraft planned for these releases. We hope you are going to love them all.
The problem is, that with so many planned versions we do not want to do a paintkit until we have released all we have waiting.

Eventually there will be a Fighters pack and with these releases there will be a paintkit for sure!

We know there are very good repainters out there who can't wait to get their hands on a paintkit but we ask for your patience for now.

Albert
www.warbirdsim.com (http://www.warbirdsim.com)

[skyhawka4m]

wow...that kinda stinks. I never even got a paint kit for the B/C plane yet........I just wish a bare metal version with no markings was included just like the B/C version had.

I think in the future I will have to hold off on purchases that don't include paint kits.


Will the add'l paints be add'l money? or free to those who purchase the plane?

[Cirrus N210MS]

this plane is great even though it does not have a paint kit which will not stop me from enjoying it i can repaint this aircraft its easy you will get me to order your next P-51D and or P-51B &C i am happy with what you have done

you can use one of the old textures to make a Paint Kit for your self save it and use it to make textures its easy to do :salute:

This is the best Plane i have seen in a Long time its Up with my LOTUS L-39 and A2A B-17 and P-47

Keep Up your good work guys :wiggle:

[Cirrus N210MS]

Painting

[skyhawka4m]

I believe there are restrictions to releasing paints for these aircraft are there not? I seem to remember something back in the early stages of the B/C aircraft. Like they could only be posted with permission of Warbirdsim? Might be wrong here.


As far as creating my own paintkit.....no thanks....with paying $40.00 I'd expect one with the plane, and not after multiple releases of other variants. While I love this plane and will fly it....I won't do much time since really only one paint grabs me. The NACA plane is interesting but.....ehhhh.

Only down falls I see so far with the aircraft are the lack of whell chocks, lack of pilot removal, and I think the whine sound is a bit loud and overdone, that and the NACA plane wouldn't have this sound since its gun barrels are plugged closed. Is there a way to silence this sound? The model is wonderful, and the paints if you like them are very nicely done.

[Cirrus N210MS]

Painting

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/hotshotmike1001/p51DClean.jpg

here is a paint kit for the plane!:salute:

MUST BE LOGIN TOO SEE THIS FILE

[huub vink]

I guess you can always think of something why you shouldn't purchase an aircraft, but the lack of a paintkit was new to me. In the not so distant past a model never came with a paintkit, but this didn't seem a problem. Even the WOP/A2A models originally didn't come with a paintkit, but were repainted with paintkits done by third parties. There are loads of repaints done for the SOH donationware P-51 and this model didn't come with a paintkit. I know several models which came with a very sophisticated paintkit for which hardly any repaints were done. And in the past I did many repaints for models for which I had to make my own paintkit.

So the fact this model doesn't come with a paintkit does not say there won't be any repaints done, nor is the fact a paintkit is supplied with a model a guarantee that repaints will be done.

And directions how to remove the whining sound can be found in the posts #36 and #37 from this thread.

Cheers,
Huub

[Bomber_12th]

Just a message here to say that it's that time again, as I am starting to get deep into the next project, so I will unfortunately not be able to be as active in the forums again, as I was this past week. Spending as much time on the computer, each day, doing development work - I'd just assume spend every other waking minute away from the computer. If anyone would like to send me a comment or question (as long as you are not a spammer or bot), please send me an e-mail at:

john terrell 87 @ comcast.net (without spaces)

It has taken me 10 hour days, each day, for the last two years, just focused on this single project alone. As Albert has indicated, we will continue to offer whole new, unique Mustang experiences, just as this first product has - each being individually desirable in their own right. They are not 'just additional repaints' - as I have indicated before, but completely different aircraft throughout, as already shown in Part 1.

Over the next 1-2 months, I will be puting together a definitive paintkit, to cover all of the D-model products, and this will be no easy task, with hundreds of layers to go through in each variant template. Besides this, many people will request to have spec map templates, and bump map templates besides, as these too are different for each and every model!! When finished, it will be released when the right time comes to do so. This has been the plan from the get-go, I just didn't know it had to be stated. It is very nice to see enthusiasm over creating additional repaints, I just hope that patience can last until the paintkit is released - the paintkit will not be product independent, as it will be for all.

As many know, a paintkit for the P-51B/C has been available upon request, nearly since the time the aircraft was released. (Skyhawk, I also clearly remember sending you one, upon your own request - if you still desire to have it, please contact me again). The paintkits for the D-models will be no-where near as simple to put together.

Of special note, "P-51D Restored Part 1" features 3 completely different prop blade types. Amazingly, covering the variants in Part 2, there will have to be 2 more completely new prop blade types! Details like these, which you will continue to find, have never been covered before for flightsim.

[Quicksand]

She's a Masterpiece in every detail, John. Thank you, because I know you put your heart and soul into this project....:salute:

[DaveQ]

It has taken me 10 hour days, each day, for the last two years, just focused on this single project alone. As Albert has indicated, we will continue to offer whole new, unique Mustang experiences, just as this first product has - each being individually desirable in their own right. They are not 'just additional repaints' - as I have indicated before, but completely different aircraft throughout, as already shown in Part 1.

Over the next 1-2 months, I will be puting together a definitive paintkit, to cover all of the D-model products, and this will be no easy task, with hundreds of layers to go through in each variant template. Besides this, many people will request to have spec map templates, and bump map templates besides, as these too are different for each and every model!! When finished, it will be released when the right time comes to do so. This has been the plan from the get-go, I just didn't know it had to be stated. It is very nice to see enthusiasm over creating additional repaints, I just hope that patience can last until the paintkit is released - the paintkit will not be product independent, as it will be for all.

As many know, a paintkit for the P-51B/C has been available upon request, nearly since the time the aircraft was released. (Skyhawk, I also clearly remember sending you one, upon your own request - if you still desire to have it, please contact me again). The paintkits for the D-models will be no-where near as simple to put together.

Of special note, "P-51D Restored Part 1" features 3 completely different prop blade types. Amazingly, covering the variants in Part 2, there will have to be 2 more completely new prop blade types! Details like these, which you will continue to find, have never been covered before for flightsim.

I feel it would be an insult to the phenomenal level of care and attention to detail in John's work, to publish a repaint unless the model matched it to perfection. Absolute historical accuracy should be the watchword for anyone repainting this beautiful creation.

DaveQ

[1970LT1]

I guess you can always think of something why you shouldn't purchase an aircraft, but the lack of a paintkit was new to me. In the not so distant past a model never came with a paintkit, but this didn't seem a problem. Even the WOP/A2A models originally didn't come with a paintkit, but were repainted with paintkits done by third parties. There are loads of repaints done for the SOH donationware P-51 and this model didn't come with a paintkit. I know several models which came with a very sophisticated paintkit for which hardly any repaints were done. And in the past I did many repaints for models for which I had to make my own paintkit.

So the fact this model doesn't come with a paintkit does not say there won't be any repaints done, nor is the fact a paintkit is supplied with a model a guarantee that repaints will be done.

And directions how to remove the whining sound can be found in the posts #36 and #37 from this thread.

Cheers,
Huub

Great points Huub.

Regards,

LT1

[Cirrus N210MS]

My Paint JOB IN WORKS!


I am Loving This plane :salute:
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr258/hotshotmike1001/P51D4thfighter.jpg

[jankees]

one (http://www.yousendit.com/download/cEdzYlJiTEQ4NVd4dnc9PQ) from me...

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7536.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7548.jpg

I'm all set for FTX Bundaberg...

[WarBert]

Hope you enjoy this video to go alongside our new Mustangs Part1 Release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diHxfIX8rvs
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It does however feature aircraft from part2 also.<o:p></o:p>
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P-51D Jumpin' Jacques, has the wrong Hamilton Standard Blades for example.
Its cockpit is still an undecided area. Peter Teichman informed us back in 2008 that his intention was to take it back to stock configuration and replace as much as possible of the modern kit.
But these things inevitably take time.
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[imn2sims]

:jawdrop:OK.....that was the proverbial "straw". Resistance is futile ........"it will be mine". :santahat:

Steve

[ronvking]

I'm aware of "switching" between having a gunsight or not, however it doesnt work with all the aircraft, is that correct as I have at least two that wont show any gunsight at all.

Thanks Ron

[Bomber_12th]

Hi Ron, that is correct. The Mustangs that come equipped by default with a gun sight, do actually have a K-14 in the real restoration, and those that don't have a gun sight, have never had one installed in the restoration. For those actual variants that do have a K-14 installed, it is rather common to see them at one point, without the gun sight, and at other times, with the gun sight - it all depends on the flight conditions or air show. For aerobatic display, especially, it is favored to remove the sight beforehand, for safety in added visibility. It also helps to have it removed for long-distance VFR flight. For authentic display, it is a nice addition to have installed.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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[ronvking]

Thanks, that indeed makes sense.

By the way anyone notice the Directional Gyro in the NACA version, presume fitting for knife edge flying :icon_lol:

[Bomber_12th]

I figured I'd repost my original thread on Upupa Epops, to this thread, so that it remains easily accessible. Through this variant, and Happy Jack's Go Buggy, even though they are restored types, they are the most complete and authentic representations, throughout, of a WWII P-51D that you can fly within a sim environment. With the exception of modern radios, they could otherwise be straight from the NAA factory, 1944/1945. The finish as seen on Upupa Epops, is extremely accurate to how the P-51D's looked when rolling out of the factory, brand new, with differences to the various metal panels a result of the manufacturing/treatment processes. When looking at the finish as seen on Happy Jack's Go Buggy, the bare metal was left in a overall patina, within the restoration, to match the look of an in-service example, the metal dulled to an almost overall sheen throughout the fuselage.

Warbirdsim P-51D-20NA 44-72364 "Upupa Epops"

The P-51D, 44-72364, cn 122-38823, known as ‘Upupa Epops’, owned and operated by the Flying Heritage Collection, based at Paine Field in Everett, WA, is one of the very few types remaining that actually saw combat service during WWII.
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44-72364 was delivered to the United States Army Air Force, fresh from the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Inglewood</st1:place></st1:City> factory, on January 26, 1945. Sent to <st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region>, and allocated to the 352nd FS, of the 353rd FG, based in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Raydon</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region></st1:place>, the aircraft was assigned to Lt. Harrison B. “Bud” Tordoff, and entered combat for the first time on March 1, 1945. Bud had already accumulated one tour of combat duty, flying the P-47, when he returned fresh for a second tour, and was immediately assigned this aircraft. By this time in the war, for matters of potentially negative-propaganda, the Eighth Air Force required official approval before a name was to be painted on an aircraft. Not wanting to continue with the name he had originally given to his P-47 on his first tour, Bud used his background in ornithology, and figured he would give the officials a bit of a hard time, choosing “Upupa Epops”, the scientific name for the hoopoe. Bud liked the name for its silliness, and the bird’s bizarre appearance. While it likely caused some question in the mind of the official whose job it was to overlook the requests, the name was approved without comment. In the final six weeks of the war in Europe, Bud flew the aircraft in support of the daylight bombing raids against <st1:country-region w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region> throughout occupied Europe and in support of missions for the Allied ground forces during the liberation of mainland <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place>. During this time, Bud shot down two Luftwaffe aircraft while flying Upupa Epops, including an Me 262, adding to his tally from his first combat tour, totaling.9 victories in all. With the war in Europe over, Bud was sent back to the <st1:country-region w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region>, while Upupa Epops stayed put in <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place>. Amongst many other P-51D’s that remained, the aircraft was sold to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Sweden</st1:place></st1:country-region> in 1947, where it served until 1954. At this time it was bought by the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Dominican Republic</st1:place></st1:country-region>, where it saw service until the early 1980’s! In 1984 the aircraft was bought and brought back into the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region>, and stored until being purchased in 1999, for what would become the Flying Heritage Collection. The aircraft was crated up and sent to West Pac Restorations, where an intensive restoration program was initiated - the airframe would not just be restored, but returned to the exact same standard as it was when it left the North American Aviation factory in late 1944, early 1945. The end result, setting a whole new benchmark in P-51 restorations, was rolled out in 2003, and delivered to the Flying Heritage Collection in its original factory-bare scheme. Upon arrival, it was painted once again in the exact, original colours of Lt. Tordoff’s ‘Upupa Epops’. Shortly there-after, in the summer of 2003, Bud was reunited with ‘his’ airplane, at the Flying Heritage Collection museum - the first time he had seen it since WWII. Upon detailed inspection, the restoration team knew they had done right, when Bud gave them his approval.
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As an accurately restored P-51D-20NA variant, there are aspects of the exterior and the interior of the aircraft, which are different than any other variant of the P-51D. Starting with the P-51D-5 production model, North American Aviation would proceed to make hundreds of design changes, some significant, some minor, over the course of each new production block, ending with the P-51D-30. Many changes even occurred during the middle of a production block, added or revised right on the shop floor. This meant that even early-production P-51D-20’s were different than late-production P-51D-20’s. “Upupa Epops” is considered one of the late-production D-20’s. The most significant difference between early and late model D-20’s, was the ‘Zero Rail Launcher’ installation, which went into effect during D-20 production. As the NAA specifications outlined:
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“The installation of electrical and structural provisions for the zero rail rocket launchers were made a permanent part of the airplane. This installation permits a total of ten rockets to be carried. An alternate arrangement, made possible by the removal of the mounts for the two inboard rockets and addition of bomb racks, allows either two 500-pound bombs or two long-range fuel tanks to be carried.
For firing the rockets, a firing button is mounted on the control stick. A Type A-1 control box assembly is mounted flush in the pilot's front switch box below the instrument panel. A four-position selector switch, with contacts for "SAFE," "ROCKETS," "BOTH BOMBS," and "BOMBS TRAIN," is provided. The wiring is arranged so that the rockets fire alternately from one side and then the other beginning with those outboard.
The forward center rocket mount on each wing covers the airplane jack point. It will be necessary, therefore to remove these two mounts to jack up the airplane. The jack point at the airplane centerline may be used without removing the mounts.
The center of gravity is kept forward to prevent an adverse movement of the airplane center of gravity with the ten 5-inch T-64 rockets in position. When mounted, the rocket fins clear those of adjacent rockets by about 1.25 inches.”
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While these provisions were put in-place during late D-20 production, in late 1944, there is no evidence that any Mustangs were delivered to <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place> with rocket-launcher stubs installed, during WWII.
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Furthermore, on the exterior of the aircraft, there were various differences in lower-cowling access panels, over the length of P-51D production. For 44-72364 this consisted of only one access panel, for connecting a ground-heater duct to the engine. (The P-51D-30, for example, had two additional access panels, one to access the oil drain, and another to access the fuel drain, without needing to remove the entire lower cowl panel).
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Another key difference in the P-51D-20, from earlier P-51D models, was that it featured the first factory-installation of the computing K-14A gun sight and corresponding twist-throttle grip for adjusting the gun sight range. Up until D-20 production, P-51D’s were fitted with the reflector N-9 gun sight, fixed back-up ring-&-bead gun sight, and earlier-design ball-grip throttle lever. At this same time, a gun sight control box, for operating the new K-14, was installed on the inner right-side of the instrument panel shroud (later moved to the left side with the P-51D-30).
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During the restoration process, “Upupa Epops” went through the same system of primer and paint applications as done originally at the factory, leaving a patchwork of yellows and greens throughout the interior. On the outer skins, where spot-welding occurred, each sheet was treated exactly as it was at the factory, to allow the metal to be at the proper state for spot-welding to occur. For specific lines of spot-welds, an acid etch cleaner was brushed onto the metal, just as it was done originally at the factory. As a result, the exterior skins bare the mark of these processes, creating the factory-blend of both polished and dull skins (in service, the cleanest skins would typically dull over time, leaving a more uniform-look to the fuselage). The wings, when assembled, were filled with putty, sanded smooth, primed, and then painted dull-silver, just as originally done at the factory (the ailerons, flaps, gear doors, and main wing tank panels, were left natural metal). This process was undertaken on every Mustang from the factory, in an effort to increase the effectiveness of the laminar-flow airfoil.
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Here is the Warbirdsim recreation of the restored P-51D-20NA “Upupa Epops”. Note the varied finishes, distinct laminar airfoil, and Spitfire mirror installation specifically to this aircraft.
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In this almost rear-quarter view, one can see the static-charge ground wire, under the tail, the pilot relief-tube exit, just in front of the base of the rudder, flaps fully deployed, coolant door fully open, and the pitot tube under the right wing.
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Here is an overall view of the late model D-20 cockpit, specifically as found on “Upupa Epops”. (The Spitfire mirror is distorted in this particular screenshot)
Note the early-mid P-51D gear indicator lights position on the instrument panel.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image6-5.jpg
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Along the right side of the cockpit a fully reproduced “Setchell Carlson, Inc.” Detrola receiver can be seen mounted to the floor, authentically reproduced Electrical-Operation Inspection stickers complete with NAA inspector stamp-marks, an accurately reproduced radio detonator panel with G-band controls, radio control box, fuse boxes with accurate stencils, the signal-light power receptacle, and authentically finished placards. All font-types throughout the cockpit, are completely authentic to those used on every given part, stencil, stamp, placard, gauge etc.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image7-4.jpg
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On the left side of the cockpit, one can see the main trim pedestal featuring all of the trim controls, flap and gear levers, carb-air controls, and bomb-salvo levers. Above this is the radiator air controls panel, and engine control unit. The brownish-maroon material, used in the bomb-salvo handles, and each trim-control base, is phenolic-resin, used as an early plastic. The landing gear placard is authentically attached via heavy staples, rather than rivets or screws.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image8-6.jpg
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With the gun sight removed, the gun sight mounting bracket can be seen in more detail, complete with an authentic NAA inspection stamp applied (another detail straight from the restored aircraft). Also seen are the original instruments (with proper restrictions taped on), the K-14 gun sight control box, oxygen regulator, and the emergency canopy release handle.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image9-4.jpg
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Looking back from the instrument panel, a limited view of the completely authentic rear cockpit can be seen. At the time this aircraft was produced, and as fully recreated within the restoration, the practice was to paint anything above the upper-decking of the cockpit, flat black, to reduce glare. Everything below this was left interior green. As a result, the armor plate was painted interior green, from its base, up to the upper-decking line, when the rest was painted flat black (The radio rack and the armor plate would eventually be finished entirely black, from the factory, on later models). Peaking around the armor plate, one can make out the fuselage fuel tank cell and gauge, the main radio set, battery, and fuel-line connection. The inside-mounted antenna wire-guide, as recreated from the restoration, is of the correct, early-design for the D-20.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image10-4.jpg
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With the gun sight installed, the power chord runs directly to the gun sight control box power receptacle. Like all of the details within the cockpit, the hand-scribed graffiti on the right side of the gun sight is copied exactly from that on the restored aircraft.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image11-4.jpg

Some final exterior views...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image10-5.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Image9-5.jpg

[huub vink]

I don't know really why, but this is definitely my favourite from this package.

And I think it is a good idea to put all the information including these descriptions in one single thread.

Cheers,
Huub

[jankees]

I agree with you Huub, it's my favorite too.

However, I could not control myself.....

so now I have a new favorite...

no, two favorites...

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7653.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7646.jpg

next, some wear and tear...

[jim]

Jankees, are you going to release those to the public when Your done????

[Bomber_12th]

Jankees, are you going to release those to the public when Your done????

Not a proper time yet...as I have stated earlier in this thread, there will be a proper paintkit released when the time comes, and I'm hoping these repaints will be applied with the actual paintkit, and released then. The unfortunate thing is, that something like Nooky Booky might be one I still would like to cover, in more detail.

Jan Kees, make sure to re-check the serial number fonts - right now they are quite a bit bigger than typical - either from the factory, or field-applied. I've had to make all of the serial numbers by hand, as there isn't a font I have found that properly replicates them. I was lucky enough with Upupa Epops, and a few others, to have exact, straight-on photos, to hand trace the serial numbers, in true-scale. Thus, a good basis to make the serial numbers by, would be from a paint scheme such as Upupa Epops. The other thing I would recommend would not to use true black - adding a little brightness, as I did with the black in all of the various schemes, I think makes it more natural looking, especially when the black is supposed to be flat.

The closeness of the numbers in the serial on the tail, is a pure sign that it is a Dallas-built Mustang - Inglewood-built Mustangs, had the serial numbers spaced further apart - and this can very easily be used to recognize one from the other. Of course everyone knows that Nooky Booky, 44-11622, was a P-51K, which were only ever manufactured at the Dallas plant anyway. As can be seen in this photo, the aircraft was modified, in the field, with the addition of two formation lights on each side of the fuselage, which were actually recognition lights of the same type as used under the right wing tip, usually always orange. This was a field-mod done for formation leader's aircraft, and not practiced by all groups (Off the top of my head, I can only think of examples from the 357th FG and possibly the 4th FG that did this).
http://aaron.smith.free.fr/PilotsPlanes/NookyBookyIV.JPG

[imn2sims]

Well, after seeing the latest video I caved in and TRIED to place an order........that was about 13 hours ago, and still no reg. confirmation :gameoff:I'm sure my email addy was correct and I don't use a spam filter, so...............:confused:

Steve

[Bomber_12th]

Steve, if that is the case, please send an e-mail to Warbirdsim support, and it shall be taken care of as soon as possible, with a new e-mail sent to you.

As covered earlier in this thread:


Sorry for the issues a couple of you are having with emails not coming back.
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It is due to a combination of high security email settings and your provider blocking out the Warbirdsim return mails. If you ask them to unblock info@warbirdsim.com (info@warbirdsim.com), sales@warbirdsim.com (sales@warbirdsim.com) and support@warbirdsim.com (support@warbirdsim.com), then it should work. The alternative is to use a different email address for the order.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The whole system is automated and so this is why it is not evident straight away at our end that an order has not worked.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>

We are discussing with our main provider to try and find a way to solve this issue.

[jankees]

I have no plans to release any paints for this aircraft in the foreseeable future, I just like to splash paint around. I'll quit teasing you guys, OK? I Blame John for making such a great looking bird...can't help myself.

John, you just paint all the birds you like, can't wait to see what you'll come up with. I'll delete Nooky Booky for you. Any chance of telling us which ones you're considering?
I may or may not do a few when the paintkit comes around, we'll see.
About the serials, yes, the font is way off, I have been thinking of making a master set myself on several occasions, but never got round to it (yet).

[imn2sims]

Steve, if that is the case, please send an e-mail to Warbirdsim support, and it shall be taken care of as soon as possible, with a new e-mail sent to you.

As covered earlier in this thread:

OK, I'll try my Google account and if that doesn't work I'll shoot you guys an email.

Thanks
Steve

[Bomber_12th]

I have no plans to release any paints for this aircraft in the foreseeable future, I just like to splash paint around. I'll quit teasing you guys, OK? I Blame John for making such a great looking bird...can't help myself.

John, you just paint all the birds you like, can't wait to see what you'll come up with. I'll delete Nooky Booky for you. Any chance of telling us which ones you're considering?
I may or may not do a few when the paintkit comes around, we'll see.
About the serials, yes, the font is way off, I have been thinking of making a master set myself on several occasions, but never got round to it (yet).

Jan Kees, no deleting anything, and I'm very glad you're enjoying repainting the aircraft - hopefully a sign on many great things to come!! I'll definitely have to get in communication with you in the coming weeks!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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I too have thought about finally getting around to making a font that will suit my needs for the serials. It was also a challenge in the cockpit, because for the life of me, I never found a font that worked perfectly for any of the gauge numbers (which there are several variations), or many of the stencils or other select text-work, all of which required hand-drawing the letters, straight from photos. Coming fresh off of typography and other design classes, and what have you, it was an interesting study, looking at the letter-types used throughout all of the different aspects of the aircraft. The most common letter-type I found, true to the original and restorations, is very close to Lithos! But then again not exact.

[imn2sims]

Now I'm starting to get somewhat angry. I re-register with a different email and buy thru a validated PayPal account and when I'm returned to your site I get this:

Thank you for your order. It will be processed and despatched within 2-7 working days.
If you have any queries, please contact us quoting your order reference number: 1310

Why does it take this long and now what am I supposed to do? :pop4:

Steve

[huub vink]

Why does it take this long and now what am I supposed to do? :pop4:

Steve, look at the posts #77 and #78 from this thread, hopefully it will take as much time as it took for them. I can assure you the models are definitely worth the wait. And I'm not even a 'pony man'.

Cheers,
Huub

[imn2sims]

Well, just checked my email and the D\L link is there so looks like I got excited for no reason:redf:.
I was a little upset because I have some free time this weekend and that's why I ordered it today and the 2 to 7 day thing didn't sit to well......just having a bad day but it looks like it's about to get MUCH better:jump:.

Thanks guys,
Steve

[Spilot69]

John you have to do Moonbeam McSwine, Red Dog, Daddy's Girl, and Old Crow! Old Crow is a must. Big Beautiful Doll is also a fav!

[Bomber_12th]

Spilot, those are some good ones!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Steve, I'm glad you'll be able to enjoy the aircraft this weekend! As I understand it, the 2 to 7 day statement, is more/less referring to the potential amount of time that may accrue if something in the ordering process goes haywire, and must be fixed. Otherwise, as all orders are automatically processed, order links are sent out very shortly after the order is placed.

[imn2sims]

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Steve, I'm glad you'll be able to enjoy the aircraft this weekend! As I understand it, the 2 to 7 day statement, is more/less referring to the potential amount of time that may accrue if something in the ordering process goes haywire, and must be fixed. Otherwise, as all orders are automatically processed, order links are sent out very shortly after the order is placed.

Thanks, looking forward to some quality time with Miss "UPUPA EPOPS" and all the other ladies:wiggle:.
That 2 to 7 day statement needs to be either eliminated or re-written to at least direct you to check your email to see if the D/L link has been sent. Could save some frustration on both ends.

Steve

[skyhawka4m]

Did you check your SPAM folder? I found mine there for some reason.

[lawdawg]

Mine was in the spam folder too.

[jankees]

coming back to our font discussion, I thought why not, so after trawling through my pics and drawings, and a bit of time in good old Illustrator, I now I have all the numbers I need for more or less correct serials on the tail. Here's a first example, looks better than the old USAAF serial stencil font I used previously, doesn't it? Now for the correct spacing...

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7689.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7696.jpg

[Quicksand]

Beautiful, Jan!

[danyboy21]

This aircraft is of exceptional quality. A big thank you to the team Warbirdsim. I dream of P51 French colors. :

http://www.mustang.gaetanmarie.com/articles/france/france.htm

[jankees]

I dream of P51 French colors. :

http://www.mustang.gaetanmarie.com/articles/france/france.htm

aucune probleme, no problem, It was already very high on my list, but you'll have to be patient (see above).

Here (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/1247-warbirdsim-p-51b-r7-d-french-air-force/) is a French paint for the B model, to help you waiting.

[danyboy21]

Oh, this one is already "in the box" when it came out. I am patient because I know you will make us beautiful textures worthy of this aircraft

[padburgess]

Congratulations to Warbird Sim on this release. From what I have seen and read, a truly beautiful model. However, one that I will not be buying. I have read all your documentation, all of the replies to this thread and looked at all the screen shots and no where does it mention anything that would lead me to believe this offering has anything approaching the A2A Accusim features for the engine and systems.
And at over $NZ50.00 this is just way overpriced for me. I have to compare it to the $NZ40 something dollars that I paid for the A2A B17 Accusim and the ~$NZ30.00 for the Flight Replicas Boomerang and unfortunately this aircraft falls short of that measure.

Please do not take this as criticism of your work. You are truly an "Artist" and I salute you. It is just the cold hard facts of limited discretionary dollars and choosing the best value for my pesos. So I will be waiting for the A2A Spitfire and P51D. And yes they may not be individually modeled off surviving aircraft, but then they will be Accusimmed and this hobby for me is about flying, not counting rivets and jewelery.

My best Regards to you
Paul

[Bomber_12th]

Paul, I'm not sure exactly what I am to take from your post. First, I am very sorry that the exchange rate of 24.99 British Pounds is so dramatic in New Zealand dollars! Unfortunately we cannot simply lower the price to match each nation's exchange rate - it just couldn't work. And don't worry, I don't take your comments as a criticism either - though I am a bit confused over whether the price was the real point of your post, or if you're just trying to plug another's products - perhaps both (maybe a not so hidden bias)? ;)

The element of importance that I have in these aircraft is accuracy of visual models (to the Nth degree), though unfortunately I know that isn't always very important to all. For me, that is the only way to go. With this product we wanted to achieve something that no one has achieved before, and based on evidence seen, won't be achieved in the future, and I am 100% confident we have done so. If you truly care about how accurate the visuals are (and for that matter the sounds and flight dynamics too, to whom Mr. Albert Patrick deserves so much praise!), I guarantee you this is the Mustang, for now, and to come. I wish everyone could see the thousands of pages of documents that were used to finally create an accurate and authentic P-51D-20 and P-51D-30 for flight sim use (as well as an F-6D, NACA-modified P-51D-25, and P-51K-10, just to add those in!)! This included original drawings as used on the NAA shop floor to originally manufacture the aircraft, manuals of every kind, covering assembly, maintenance, operation, tech orders, field modifications, etc., expensive and hard to find publications over the past years covering every nook and cranny of the aircraft inside and out (not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of photos taken by Albert and I, from Mustangs in the UK and the states, inside and out), all allowing this aircraft to be made as accurate and authentic as it is. Add into this the exhaustive cross-referencing of both drawings and photos, for a given part, and having the approval of not just a couple of Mustang pilots, but the approval, and criticism, along the way, of the guys that know the aircraft the most, the restorers and maintainers! I really hope that these measures are appreciated, and at least most people actually care to note the accuracy you can clearly see when comparing this product to real life examples, past and present
- if not, I may just cry...:)

[padburgess]

Bomber_12th

I've just re-read my post following your reply. I did proof it a couple of times prior to sending as I didn't want to offend or create the wrong impression. Glad I didn't offend. 1 out of 2 isn't bad.
I suppose I was trying to do two things. Congratulate you and your team on a truly awesome aircraft and give an insight into why, of all those posting here, I wont be getting it. I was not trying to "plug" the A2A P51, although I believe mentioning yours and theirs in the same context is I think a complement to you both.
I have to ask of course, do you incorporate a similar vehicle to their Accusim with these models? If you do then they are indeed among the best. And yes the detail and attention to it should be praised and highly, although I fear that most will just strap her on and take off. But then sometimes that is the complement isn't it. That favorite jersey that just fits and feels right.

Anyway, thanks for all your efforts in producing these aircraft for us, even if I can not at this time afford them. Maybe if the GBP crashes or something.

Regards
Paul

[Bomber_12th]

Paul, no problem, and I hope the 'tongue-in-cheekiness' in my first part was understood, and I am certainly sincere in my regards to the price, as it shows in New Zealand Dollars - I personally did not know the exchange rate was so high - and here I thought the U.S. Dollar was bad!

I would love to have something like Accusim, complementing what is already there. Unfortunately, the current development team (Albert Patrick and I) aren't all too skilled in what it takes to add such system-depth (not too many are!). Perhaps something for the future, time will tell. I'm rather proud just within what I was able to achieve with XML coding for this product, having never attempted such things like a completely functioning radio-set before, especially modeled all in 3D (thank you once again Wozza, for all of your help in setting me straight several times throughout development!). :)

Perhaps I am an oddity, but even with in-depth system modeling, I never get much from it, since I always fly the aircraft to their exact specifications no matter what the case may be (using information gleaned over the years from original manuals and information on how pilots fly them today (which is generally smarter)), providing a teaching tool of sorts, between all of the vintage aircraft and warbirds I fly in FSX.

I get the most enjoyment with FSX, doing aerobatic displays with aircraft of this kind, working to improve every time I get a chance to play around with the sim. Nothing better, for me at the moment, than establishing 42-inches MP, 2500 RPM, and performing a display in the P-51D over a field like Duxford - cuban eights, roll reversals, loops, rolls, quarter-rolls, you name it.

[SADT]

Paul, I'm not sure exactly what I am to take from your post. First, I am very sorry that the exchange rate of 24.99 British Pounds is so dramatic in New Zealand dollars! Unfortunately we cannot simply lower the price to match each nation's exchange rate - it just couldn't work. And don't worry, I don't take your comments as a criticism either - though I am a bit confused over whether the price was the real point of your post, or if you're just trying to plug another's products - perhaps both (maybe a not so hidden bias)? ;)

The element of importance that I have in these aircraft is accuracy of visual models (to the Nth degree), though unfortunately I know that isn't always very important to all. For me, that is the only way to go. With this product we wanted to achieve something that no one has achieved before, and based on evidence seen, won't be achieved in the future, and I am 100% confident we have done so. If you truly care about how accurate the visuals are (and for that matter the sounds and flight dynamics too, to whom Mr. Albert Patrick deserves so much praise!), I guarantee you this is the Mustang, for now, and to come. I wish everyone could see the thousands of pages of documents that were used to finally create an accurate and authentic P-51D-20 and P-51D-30 for flight sim use (as well as an F-6D, NACA-modified P-51D-25, and P-51K-10, just to add those in!)! This included original drawings as used on the NAA shop floor to originally manufacture the aircraft, manuals of every kind, covering assembly, maintenance, operation, tech orders, field modifications, etc., expensive and hard to find publications over the past years covering every nook and cranny of the aircraft inside and out (not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of photos taken by Albert and I, from Mustangs in the UK and the states, inside and out), all allowing this aircraft to be made as accurate and authentic as it is. Add into this the exhaustive cross-referencing of both drawings and photos, for a given part, and having the approval of not just a couple of Mustang pilots, but the approval, and criticism, along the way, of the guys that know the aircraft the most, the restorers and maintainers! I really hope that these measures are appreciated, and at least most people actually care to note the accuracy you can clearly see when comparing this product to real life examples, past and present
- if not, I may just cry...:)

It is my opinion, that this P-51 is the most accurately "shaped" P-51 of all available for FSX. The others, IMO just do not have that unique windscreen/canopy shape quite right, and it is for this reason, when I do get a P-51, accusim or not, it will most likely be this one. Theres also always room for another P-51 in the hangar......... :)

[Naki]

As a fellow Kiwi, I'll be buying it eventually as IMV this is the best Mustang out the moment, although I will play a waiting game and see what other models of the D (and repaints -RNZAF(?)) will be offered by Warbirdsim before I commit.

I don't really have much Sim time to play around with Accusim and I also like the idea of highly accurate models of restored warbirds as they seem to fit FSX better IMV. It will sit nicely in my hangar next to the Realair Spitfire and Lotus L-39.

Not sure how Paul paid NZ $50 for the B-17 with Accusim as from calcs the B-17 with Accusim equals NZ $100. As for exchange rates the pound to dollar ratio is actually very favourable for us Kiwis at the moment so no better time to buy than now.

[GBrutus]

Well I've been looking forward to the Warbirdsim P-51D just as much as the A2A version to be honest. The level of detail of John's Mustangs is nothing short of outstanding and they are well worth the money IMO. I'm also looking forward to seeing more repaints in the near future but as Happy Jack's Go Buggy is one of my favourite schemes I'm more than happy for now.

[Lenop]

Having bought this excellent addon too, I'm having the feeling the plane seems very sensitive, twitchy to fly. Especially pitch. How are my fellow P-51 drivers feel about the flight model?

BTW my settings are all standard in FSX for joystick.

Otherwise, superb rendition of the looks of the P-51D, yaw dropping fine!

[Cleartheprop]

... just purchased, waiting for the download link.
Hopefully not too long to wait to fly this beauty in the FSX sky.

[jankees]

you won't regret it, one of the best looking birds there is.
And as I know you like them worn and torn as well:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7760.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7764.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7770.jpg

still wip, but getting there..

[Cleartheprop]

you won't regret it, one of the best looking birds there is.
And as I know you like them worn and torn as well:

still wip, but getting there..

Wonderful Jankees ! I am just wainting for the WBS download link to install this Pony.. :)

[jankees]

mine came immediately, have you checked your spam box?

[SpaceWeevil]

Wonderful Jankees ! I am just wainting for the WBS download link to install this Pony.. :)

Can we hope for one of your wonderful cockpit videos? :jump:

[AndyE1976]

Fantastic aircraft, picked it up last night absolutely no problems with the purchase - email arrived straight away.

Took it for a flight this morning and it looks great, flies nicely and with them being restored birds with nav they seem like a good option for touring.

Still getting used to them though, seems a bit reluctant to get up to 350-400mph in level flight and won't do a loop with an entry speed below about 350mph, which seems perhaps a little high, but I don't know the real numbers for a P-51.

[Cleartheprop]

mine came immediately, have you checked your spam box?

I got an email yesterday from Steve of WBS saying that there were some problem with my purchase and that they were going to provide me with a download link asap. no worries, I'll just wait a little bit more. (I used paypal for paiement)


Can we hope for one of your wonderful cockpit videos? :jump:


Hello SpaceWeevil, I am extremely busy at work these days and rarely home. But if I find some free time, I think I will certainely do something with the WBS P-51D as I did with the B/C version :)

[Cleartheprop]

Got the manual link tonight; install works perfect. No time for a first flight but the exterior model is quite impressive. I am sure it will even look better with jankees repaints.

[Bomber_12th]

I am sure it will even look better with jankees repaints.

In my best Rodney Dangerfield impersonation, "I tell ya I don't get no respect!" :d
Just kidding of course!!

Andy, for loops, I usually want at least 42-in MP, 2500 RPM pulling me along, or 46-in MP, 2700 RPM tops (max continuous). I find it quite straight forward to perform a loop, even when starting at as low as 280-mph, it is just a matter of energy-control. By the time you are over the top of the loop, you'll be going 120-130 mph if handled properly (you really don't want to go slower than this). Many Mustang display pilots will tell you to not even enter a loop until you have 350-mph established, which requires a bit of a down-hill ride, with these power settings, to get to that speed. Entering into a display over an airfield, you always want to start out high, entering in with plenty of energy, which you'll want to maintain throughout the display.

It is rather a slick deal to have a Nav radio and CDI built into the aircraft, allowing for IFR flight (the vast majority of Mustangs today do - it would be rather stupid not to).

[Bomber_12th]

An excellent aircraft-view of a safe P-51D display demonstration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUMUsxSFa20

A ground view of a different style of P-51D display, with more energy, much lower to the surface:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGO0gfvEo64

[jimjones]

After completing a registration to Warbirdsim, the ending message indicated the registration was successful and that an email would be sent so that the registration could be completed. I never received an email. Checked the spam emails too.

Looking through the messages on this thread a suggestion was given to request my ISP to unblock your messages for the sites info@warbirdsim.com and support@warbirdssim.com.
A call to my ISP(AT&T - Bellsouth.net) indicated my request cannot be honored as an individual but relies on Warbirdsim's request on my behalf to unblock the site.

Seems this is getting to be too difficult. This has become more than I wish to deal with.
I don't know how you can overcome this with an automated system if all the numerous ISP's choose to Block emails without the sender knowing why and how an email is being blocked.

Obviously I cannot risk a purchase now even if I was registered, which I am not. Good luck in finding a solution. You are losing potential customers for what appears to be a fine product. An alternate supplier perhaps?

Jim Jones

[AndyE1976]

Andy, for loops, I usually want at least 42-in MP, 2500 RPM pulling me along, or 46-in MP, 2700 RPM tops (max continuous). I find it quite straight forward to perform a loop, even when starting at as low as 280-mph, it is just a matter of energy-control. By the time you are over the top of the loop, you'll be going 120-130 mph if handled properly (you really don't want to go slower than this). Many Mustang display pilots will tell you to not even enter a loop until you have 350-mph established, which requires a bit of a down-hill ride, with these power settings, to get to that speed. Entering into a display over an airfield, you always want to start out high, entering in with plenty of energy, which you'll want to maintain throughout the display.

It is rather a slick deal to have a Nav radio and CDI built into the aircraft, allowing for IFR flight (the vast majority of Mustangs today do - it would be rather stupid not to).

Thanks, was able to put together a series of loops, immelmans etc just now - it's tricky managing the AOA and keeping away from the stall, but that makes it interesting to fly. Even managed to spin it and recover.

Looking forward to the other releases.

[Cleartheprop]

In my best Rodney Dangerfield impersonation, "I tell ya I don't get no respect!" :d
Just kidding of course!!

Jankees has made a lot of fantastic repaints of the B/C versions. And I think he's working on the D version as well. I especially like his "used and dirty" repaints.

Of course the original airplane looks fantastic as well :)
with all my due respect )

[skyhawka4m]

this is what I love...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrDWYOlLA-w

[2Low]

this is what I love...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrDWYOlLA-w

Just try watching that without getting a big grin on! Love that too.

[skyhawka4m]

yep! and this one is good too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn9xzP_Ew_A

[GBrutus]

A couple of my favourites....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qkiRfKXaIk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hARupaw1cQ

[DaveQ]

I saw this Cavalier Mustang II at Duxford in 2009 and thought it was different and pretty cool. But there's not been a suitable model to paint it till now. Not entirely accurate obviously (get the 'Buntline Special' inboard Browning!!) but I think it looks OK. Sadly the pilot Bertil Gerhardt was killed in Spitfire landing crash in Norway in August. This is by way of a small tribute to an outstanding Mustang display pilot.

The aircraft has been owned by the Swedish company Biltema since 2006 and was one of 9 Cavalier Mustang II's delivered to El Salvador in 1967, where it flew as FAS-405. It remains the only Mustang II still flying as built.

DaveQ

[jankees]

'buntline special' LOL, very cool!

[jankees]

I heard that the Early birds foundation (http://earlybirdsmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=27&Itemid=33&lang=en) had their first engine trials on 'Trusty Rusty', so with a bit of luck, we'll soon have two Mustangs gracing the Dutch skies!

Here a few wip shots:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7909.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7919.jpg

[Z-IanMCD]

Went ahead and bought this gorgeous addon yesterday! At about 30€'s, it's a steal!

What I like especially is the incredible amount of detail combined with how framerate friendly it is!!

A BIG thumbs up to the warbirdsim team for this addon!!

Going to fly it some more now! :jump:

[jankees]

'a boomerang always returns' was what Lt Richard Thieme thought, and that's what he called his Mustang, while flying with the 505th FS/339th FG:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7970.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7962.jpg

[jimjones]

After striking out attempting to get the "Cadillac" because of emails not being received from Wardsim.com an effort to locate another site more amiable has not borne good fruit. However at a serundipitios time a review of the p-51 Warbird Sim Fighter Leader X was posted at flightsim.com also indicating the availability at their Pilotshop. Since I already had my problems, now fixed, with unreceived eamails from flightsim, I ordered and received this P-51 package with ease because once the purchase was conplete a download option was shown on the purchase page and no email link needed to be sent. Hopefully Warbirdsim will consider letting flightsim.com distribute the "Cadillac" too in the near future.

[glennc]

It looks like it's available on SimMarket now.

Glenn

[jankees]

One more shot of the 'final' version of Trusty Rusty.
The real final version will come after WBS release a paintkit.

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7934.jpg


oh, and something to keep the kiwi's happy:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX8050.jpg

[Akatsuki]

I finally bought her tonight. I'm really impressed by the quality of this bird, top of the line product!:medals::medals:

I will post screenshots tomorrow to bump that post who was "unstickied" too quickly IMHO.

[Cleartheprop]

I finally bought her tonight. I'm really impressed by the quality of this bird, top of the line product!:medals::medals:

I will post screenshots tomorrow to bump that post who was "unstickied" too quickly IMHO.

agree. I think this post should have remained "sticky" during the Xtmas period. Really a nice product and a fun airplane.

[jankees]

there are other ways of keeping it 'up there':

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX8250.jpg

[huub vink]

agree. I think this post should have remained "sticky" during the Xtmas period. Really a nice product and a fun airplane.

The thread had been a sticky for over two weeks. The reason to make any thread a sticky is to keep the announcement on the front page to give non-regular visitors a chance to see the announcement as well. However you should also consider that stickies shorten the front page for other messages. For instance a question from somebody how to do something, will get less attention as well. Therefore it is always a delicate balance.

So I definitely concur it is a great product, but I also understand the reason why it was released.

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Hop.jpg

[jankees]

why not a few more shots..

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX8263.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX8274.jpg

[jim]

I do hope that Mr Jankees will release those repaints sometime in the future.

[huub vink]

Looks good Jan Kees I like this piano key noses. Nice weathing as well!

Cheers,
Huub