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Lewis-A2A
November 19th, 2010, 09:25
Hello ladies, gentlefolk and Ants swamp wallabee kanagroo shrimp on the barbie etc etc :ernae:

We have just launched the He-219, now ready for takeoff.

http://www.a2asimulations.com/forum_picts/af_he219/thumbnail.gif

Here is the A2A forum thread;
http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22829

screenshots;
http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=22827

Video;
http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22752

And of course the store page;
http://www.a2asimulations.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=40

Hope you chaps enjoy this release, it isnt another P51, spitfire, 737 etc so I hope it will keep a few of you busy. Its a great model, great sound and a joy to fly in the FSX skies. And dont worry Ill be working on Scott and Rob with my whips and homemade Dungeon to try and get a few more 'different' aircraft out. *insert whip sound*

huub vink
November 19th, 2010, 09:35
Beautiful aircraft! :applause: The pilots look very promising for the accusimmed Bf109! :engel016:

HippyEd
November 19th, 2010, 10:17
Thanks Lewis. Off to check it out.:salute:

Kiwikat
November 19th, 2010, 10:19
Looks great! Will be picking up my copy s**n. :jump:

jankees
November 19th, 2010, 11:05
downloading as I type...

Barfly
November 19th, 2010, 11:38
Also downloading now. And still awaiting an accusim'd Jumo 211 - type airplane, hmm wonder what that could be, lol.

gera
November 19th, 2010, 12:19
After looking at the video, I think IŽll get it and start a Mission for it....it looks outstanding!!!!!:jump::jump:

OleBoy
November 19th, 2010, 12:51
Looks like a alien form of locust with all them antenni on the nose!!
...Now that's a class act to follow. It's nice to see the time frame get recognition :salute:

Ian Warren
November 19th, 2010, 14:14
Im going in :salute:
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Roger
November 19th, 2010, 14:26
Great stuff!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/he119-2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/he119-3.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/he119-1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/he119-4.jpg

SADT
November 19th, 2010, 14:41
It sort of grows on you, :wiggle: I wasnt planning on getting this for Christmas, but now I will!:wavey:

atf300
November 19th, 2010, 15:40
look great , can some one explain the czech livery i saw in one of the screen shots?

Scratch
November 19th, 2010, 15:43
Looks like a alien form of locust with all them antenni on the nose!!
...Now that's a class act to follow. It's nice to see the time frame get recognition :salute:

Yup it is butt ugly, but a fascinating a/c with that big salad fork stuck on the nose.:jump:

Barfly
November 19th, 2010, 16:00
I'd love to be able to tune that salad fork lol. Someday hopefully someone models some WW2 era radar sets.

Roger
November 19th, 2010, 16:23
Some more screenies...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/He119-5.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/He119-6.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/He119-7.jpg


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/He119-8.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/He119-9.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/He119-10.jpg


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/He119-11.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/He119-13.jpg

stiz
November 19th, 2010, 17:15
look great , can some one explain the czech livery i saw in one of the screen shots?

"This unusual aircraft was a two-seat Czech conversion. It was lightly armed, with just four cannon, but carried a lot of fuel
because of the two extra nacelle tanks of 105 US gallons each. It was equipped with a FuG 220 Lichtenstein search radar"

straight from the manual :wavey:

Akatsuki
November 19th, 2010, 17:29
It's cool to have her in this sim, thank you AF/A2A team for an aircraft i was not hoping to see in FSX!:ernae:

allcott
November 19th, 2010, 17:32
Fun to fly, but with a number of niggles which I don't remember from the FS9 models. And the manual looks comprehensive until you start trying to use it for more than scan reading it, when you find holes in the operating procedures and a number of key performance parameters missing.

I'm sure they'll fix it, but it's the second Aircraft Factory release that has a number of careless errors at release.

And a question for the experts. Should the armoured screen be opaque? I thought it was armoured glass, same as on most WWII windscreens, the only difference being it hinges up.

fleurdelys
November 19th, 2010, 17:39
Beautiful aircraft! :applause: The pilots look very promising for the accusimmed Bf109! :engel016:

I agree with Huub 100% about the pilots...:kilroy:
It would be a real treat getting the 109E accusimmed and loaded with any one of these pilots!

Getting back to the UHU, does any one have problem either getting it up or down ... I mean taking off and landing, naturally...?

I have the FS9 A2A version which is probably one of the best flying planes that I have had the pleasure of buying and flying. It flies by the book and to a "t". It would take off nicely with a bit of negative trim and make landings which were close to perfect every time.:sleep: I could probably have flown the plane with one hand tied behind my back...:applause:

This FSX version is unfortunately the worst behaved plane that I have flown in a long time and no sibling of the original FS9 version, that's for sure...

I find that on take off, the nose will try to imitate a candle and it takes an inordinate amount of trimming to get the nose down (even though trimming was set as requested in the manual).

As for landing, my first try was a total loss with the co-pilot getting both legs broken (as per historic facts...) and the 4 following ones gave way to a battle between the plane and the pilot (me) to get it to line up with the runway and settle down, eventually...
albeit, outside the runway...

This plane goes in the shed until someone comes up with a better FSX air file...

Fleurdelys

Roger
November 19th, 2010, 17:50
Once trimmed I have no issue.

Kiwikat
November 19th, 2010, 18:01
Once she gains some speed she is quite stable for me. Most lengthy planes like that are a bit wobbly until they speed up. I think I might add a couple tenths to the stability values in the cfg file, but otherwise I don't see much wrong with the flight model on my end.


Why isn't this topic sticky'd? She certainly deserves a spot at the top for a bit. :wavey:

allcott
November 19th, 2010, 18:21
The important thing for stability is to use the aft tank as soon as possible after take-off. She is longitudinally marginally stable until the CG moves forward.
Unlike most FSX aircraft you can't just load this up with fuel and go, the aft tank MUST be loaded last, and used first.
To make it more stable you can leave the aft tank at 25% or thereabouts, then use tank I (forward) for take off, then as soon as you clean up and reduce to climb power, switch to tank III on the fuel selector. I've just done a three hour flight around the Bahamas at 20,000 ft and it gets better on a/p as fuel is burned off.

jankees
November 19th, 2010, 21:29
here's a few pics from me:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7232.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7235.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7238.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/2010/FX7245.jpg

wonderful bird...

YoYo
November 19th, 2010, 21:53
I had model of FS9 version. Now, is the time for FSX!

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4826/he219.jpg

Kiwikat
November 19th, 2010, 21:55
Well I put 5 hours or so on her today. I give it a thumbs up for sure! For 25 bucks you can't go wrong, especially for being such a niche aircraft.

Thanks A2A team! :jump: :salute:

allcott
November 20th, 2010, 02:11
Well I put 5 hours or so on her today. I give it a thumbs up for sure! For 25 bucks you can't go wrong, especially for being such a niche aircraft.

Thanks A2A team! :jump: :salute:

Agreed, but anyone else think it feels more like a cheap portover? It doesn't have any of the `expected` features for FSX - the crew can't be removed, there are no add-on animations like chocks, pitot covers, cockpit covers, removable crew (that ladder is a useless animation if the crew won't use it!). Only a single viewpoint in the VC, no pressurisation control or consequence for misuse - even a steamed up canopy would have been nice, it's not like A2A don't know how to do it!

The manual leaves me with the impression of being thrown in at the last minute from an unrelated aircraft. I got quite irritated trying to actually use it last night!

There's no configuration, loadout or any external configuration utility, and you cant use the a/p from the VC, even though it has a Master switch. The pop up you have to use is just default gauges rather than `vintage` equivalents. Sloppy and cheap. And the Simmarket version (German-owned) has no swastikas, yet the A2A download has no option to remove them. That's not thinking clearly about the target market. This is one bird that definitely needs that option!

I hope it becomes a real asset for anything other than screenies after a re-jig and a serious bit of patching. For me the disappointing thing is that a lot of these issues should have been spotted by a developer/publisher as sophisticated as this with history in the aircraft and the market. This was a FS9 aircraft, and still is, in my opinion.

I guess what I'm saying is what this lacks is flair, pride in its execution. I can't `feel the love`!!

On the other side it is a great soundset, does fly quirky, and as a platform has the potential to be something a bit different for FSX. With the crew so far ahead of the wing, it has the potential to be a great sightseeing and travelling package and its vintage, with a nosewheel! For now, its going back in the hangar and I'm going back to the Focke Wulfs and waiting for the Taifun! I guess there's still a lot of weaving in my future!

Ferry_vO
November 20th, 2010, 02:38
Beautiful aircraft, shame there's no discount for buyers of the Fs9 version.. $25 for what appears to be an update from comments above rather than a totally new aircraft .. :kilroy:

txnetcop
November 20th, 2010, 06:31
Allcot the more you write the more it seems you have an axe to grind with A2A. I suggest you take it up with them rather than smear an aircraft you have never personally flown. Trying to recruit dissent on here is a bad idea.
Ted

stiz
November 20th, 2010, 06:58
And the manual looks comprehensive until you start trying to use it for more than scan reading it, when you find holes in the operating procedures and a number of key performance parameters missing.


It works fine for me, tells ya what you need to know and where the controlls are. All thats needed in a manual really.


And a question for the experts. Should the armoured screen be opaque? I thought it was armoured glass, same as on most WWII windscreens, the only difference being it hinges up.

its plate armour, not armoured glass


Unlike most FSX aircraft you can't just load this up with fuel and go

yea ya can .. well i did anyways :engel016:


Agreed, but anyone else think it feels more like a cheap portover? It doesn't have any of the `expected` features for FSX - the crew can't be removed, there are no add-on animations like chocks, pitot covers, cockpit covers, removable crew (that ladder is a useless animation if the crew won't use it!).

"expected" i dont expect all those in an fsx plane, didnt even put them down for a must in an fs9 plane .... there just gimmicks used so developers can put extra things on the "features" list, same with fireing guns.


The manual leaves me with the impression of being thrown in at the last minute from an unrelated aircraft. I got quite irritated trying to actually use it last night!


Up to normal standard for me, tells ya what you need to know and where everything is.


And the Simmarket version (German-owned) has no swastikas, yet the A2A download has no option to remove them. That's not thinking clearly about the target market. This is one bird that definitely needs that option!


well in germany its illeagle to sell stuff with swastikas on unless your a museum etc etc so that'll be why the simmarket version hasnt got em. Also your on about how inacurate the plane is overall and you want the swastikas removed???

Also as said by roger, bit of elevator trim and she flys like an angle! well worth the money if you ask me. Only quibble i have is that i wish the observer/rader op/whatever the heck the guy doeser area was fully modeled and we could play about with all his toys! :jump:

glennc
November 20th, 2010, 07:38
Thanks, Stiz. You said in much better detail what I had in mind.

One thing to mention: A2A has two levels of aircraft, Accusim and Aircraft factory. Think of it as the difference between two model lines from a car maker. It is designed to be a jump in and go aircraft.

I tried the Czech aircraft a while ago and found it to be very nice. I don't "speak" a lot of metric and no German but I still like it a lot.

Other thing, for those concerned about the swastikas check A2A's forum. They have released a cleaned up set. Other than that, I'll trust our favorite repainters to come up with some creative stuff.

Glenn

allcott
November 20th, 2010, 08:22
OK Stiz, your expectations are met.

Can you show us how to drop the drop tanks? How to select the drop tanks? Where the fuel dump levers are? Why the armoured screen is not present in some models when, according to the manual, it is? Where is the missing page in the manual?

The manual suggests features are present that are not. And is not complete about those that are. As a result it has given, I think, a false impression about what the product is.

On a scale of 1-10 I give this about a 5, maybe a `6 with potential`. As yet unfulfilled potential - which makes it even more of a pity that AF/A2a seem more intent on burying criticism than addressing it.

But we'll see how things develop. Perhaps in a few months when all the kinks are ironed out it will be worth reinstalling.

stiz
November 20th, 2010, 09:05
OK Stiz, your expectations are met.


are indeed :)



Can you show us how to drop the drop tanks?


fuel dump levers, see page 20 in the manual for location


How to select the drop tanks?

for fuel ... 3rd notch back on the fuel tank selector. See page 17 in the manual for location


Where the fuel dump levers are?

see above about how to drop the drop tanks.


Why the armoured screen is not present in some models when, according to the manual, it is?

didnt see any mention in the manual that the armoured screen is present in all the models



Where is the missing page in the manual?


what missing page??? mine are all numbered correctly.

Kiwikat
November 20th, 2010, 09:13
^^^ What Stiz has been saying.

I certainly don't need nor care about wheel chocks or anything else that doesn't have to do with the plane flying, or at the very least, moving. This is a 25 dollar aircraft that's nicer than any other 25 dollar aircraft I've bought. It's got the benefit of being a really cool subject material too. I will be doing a ton of hops with her.

:salute:

Cleartheprop
November 20th, 2010, 10:44
Wow! She looks great indeed! will get her as soon as I am back to FSX!
Thanks to those who posted so nice screenshots! :ernae:

jankees
November 20th, 2010, 10:51
This (http://www.yousendit.com/download/dklvT0NlUzdRYS92Wmc9PQ) is the black paint without the swastika. Just overwrite the normal texture file, after making a backup. Link is good till 27 november.

dvj
November 20th, 2010, 13:59
Flying for about an hour now. Not a big fan of German WWII machines, but this is interesting enough to own. You can eject the canopy, and use the ejection seat. Nice touch. There is a very nice, subtle engine smoke effect during flight. The sound files needed a bit of correction for me. On throttle back, the prop pitch does not change so I removed the several prop files from the sound folder (made backups) to eliminate the drone. Much better now.

I don't know what all the fuss is on the other items. Seems to fly just fine. No probelms with landing or take off. If anything seems too easy to fly. An Accusim version would have been nice.

txnetcop
November 20th, 2010, 15:22
I confess I'm in love with it after 3 hours and I'm an Accusim maniac! Great build A2A! A real classic in the making for FSX!
Ted

Warrant
November 20th, 2010, 15:32
Great to have this bird back in my inventory!

Great job, A2A!

Still taxieng, but what a joy and a FPS friendly bird she is!

txnetcop
November 20th, 2010, 15:35
Great to have this bird back in my inventory!

Great job, A2A!

Still taxieng, but what a joy and a FPS friendly bird she is!

Yep I can even run this one on my old laptop! I like that!

alehead
November 20th, 2010, 16:48
I had this in FS9, and although I never flew her much, it was a much loved aircraft, particularly since I thought it was one of the most ugly I had in my FS9 hangar... :)

It is good to see her released for FSX...:salute:
I had to check and see if it was the DB603 in the FW190Ds... unfortunately not, they were Jumo213s...

Now there is a series I really want to see done in FSX, the Fw190Ds. Classics Hangar or A2A (preferably with Accusim)...

Dreams...

Andrew

txnetcop
November 21st, 2010, 02:31
Once you learn how to get her trimmed out right she flies like an angel. What an awesome addition to FSX! She's just as pretty on the ground as she is in the air. I love the sounds! Thanks Scott and A2A Team
Ted

Cleartheprop
November 21st, 2010, 05:33
Your screenshots are terrific! Thanks

doublecool
November 28th, 2010, 03:50
2436924370This is a really nice plane at a fair price :salute: Thanks A2Ahttp://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/misc/pencil.png

ryanbatc
November 28th, 2010, 12:11
That plane is a perfect definition of "ugly" :icon_lol:

Paul K
November 28th, 2010, 12:59
A few of my own. The Uhu at Dave Garwood's freeware Duxford ( 7 miles down the road from me ). Note the small extended ladder near the nosewheel.


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/Geomitrak/uhu04.jpg


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/Geomitrak/uhu03.jpg


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/Geomitrak/uhu01.jpg


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/Geomitrak/uhu02.jpg

For the modest price, A2A is offering a very fine aircraft here. I don't go for warbirds generally in FSX but models such as this, the new and unusual, should be applauded and encouraged.

Christmas is approaching, she doesn't cost much, and is a welcome departure from 'If its Monday, it must be a Mustang'.

Ian Warren
November 28th, 2010, 15:03
:wavey:Hey Paul , should you not be flying the captured UHU outta there :icon_lol:
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doublecool
November 28th, 2010, 16:27
Nice screen shots Paul :wavey:

Paul K
November 29th, 2010, 13:20
:wavey:Hey Paul , should you not be flying the captured UHU outta there :icon_lol:
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I always fly such aircraft in the context of a restored warbird...and as I consider Stephen Grey to be the luckiest bastard on the planet, where else can I base my Owl ? :icon_lol:



Nice screen shots Paul :wavey:

Cheers matey ! Authentic scenery and a finely modelled aircraft make it easy, of course. :)

OleBoy
December 3rd, 2010, 11:08
I went ahead and got the Uhu. Well, my Sis-in-law actually bought it as my Xmas gift. I was juggling two complete opposite and different developers with the decision which to get. The He-219 won. I made the right choice. The Uhu is all I expected and more after flying the FS9 model. An excellent toy for the boy (me) to play with. :wiggle:
....If the thought has crossed your mind to get it, you won't be disappointed ;)

Now if I only knew how to make videos. :173go1:

Doering
December 5th, 2010, 18:40
Now that is different! Kinda cool though!