Native FSX Tornado GR4 (now released!)

[UKMIL]

in progress

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http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1289559576_3_FT57326_image1.jpg

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1289559576_3_FT57326_image2.jpg

[AusWilko]

Nice, got a book called Team Tornado in my libary that I have read many a time.

I think back in FS9 I had the Iris version and some scenery called Leakenheath??? that I used to love doing touch and gos on, also visited Richmond and Williamtown more than once or twice.

Will be watching this

[kilo delta]

Nice one,Gaffer! :)

[Warrant]

Wow, excellent modelling there, mate!
Looks like you're about to unleash a winner here!

[UKMIL]

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1289659697_3_FT57326_image2.jpg

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1289674648_3_FT57326_image1.jpg

[Cag40Navy]

Sweet! Thank you Gaffer! Look forward to it.

[peter12213]

That looks awesome, can't wait we despirately need a GR4 in FSX!

[doublecool]

Always Liked the looks of the Tornado

[UKMIL]

comes with SONIC BOOM effect

[Rattler]

Another bird on my Long Wishlist!!!!

Looks Great!!!!, Cant Wait

[peter12213]

Now that's awesome! :salute:

Can I Beta test please??

[delta_lima]

Outstanding!! Excellent looking so far. This will be popular, especially if there are any SEAD and/or RECCE loadout options. Looks superb.

Now about that Sea Fury .... :jump:

[Bjoern]

Yay! :jump:

[UKMIL]

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1289848786_3_FT57326_image1.jpg


http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1289852362_3_FT57326_image1.jpg

[Jwcfly]

When the bits and pixels just don't work out right, here is some inspiration to boost your esprit de corps:

http://www.miliwoman.com/UK/Army/military_woman_uk_army_000104.jpg.html

[Daube]

...

The exterior model looks quite good actually.
I just hope you can improve the way the canopy looks.

[airattackimages]

When the bits and pixels just don't work out right, here is some inspiration to boost your esprit de corps:

http://www.miliwoman.com/UK/Army/military_woman_uk_army_000104.jpg.html
I'm not even working on this project, but consider me boosted!

I had heard about her, never seen a photo. Yowza. She could be my wingman anytime. ;)

[UKMIL]

the canopy actually looks better in the game than my pics

[strykerpsg]

Dave,

I have long wanted a Tornado within FSX as well and your model looks fantastic too, freeware to boot. Why haven't you considered switching to payware, at least on the level of the Simskunkworks F-104, another great model I would add. I understand ultimately, it's a labor of love, but the depth of quality you and your team, as well as people such as Piglet and Pam put into freeware releases, the majority of us wouldn't mind giving back to you and others like yourself. There will always be some that balk at the idea, but come on, $10-15 for your releases is a pittance compared to some releases such as those produced by PMDG, Ariane and A2A. Granted those same companies have much depth and detail to their models that garner a higher price. In the end though, it's great to populate one's hangars with high detail/fidelity and lower detail/fidelity too. It just seems that if you are able to at least reap a benefit of putting some monies back into your pocket for devoting your time to our great hobby, it makes it more enticing next time to start on the next project and should it be taken to the next level of detail and fidelity, than it's not so constraining working with little to no return on your time invested. Just a thought.

BTW, love the C-17 from your site and have been considering the Nimrod as well.

Matt

[UKMIL]

I refuse to go to payware, as that brings a whole load of issues. if people pay for a product, they have a right to complain. if it is free, they can just throw it in the bin if I do not want to fix the issue raised.

This however will be a donationware. I am going to ask everyone who downloads, to dontate £1 to Help for Heroes. :salute:

[strykerpsg]

I refuse to go to payware, as that brings a whole load of issues. if people pay for a product, they have a right to complain. if it is free, they can just throw it in the bin if I do not want to fix the issue raised.

This however will be a donationware. I am going to ask everyone who downloads, to dontate £1 to Help for Heroes. :salute:
Stated like a true professional and a gentleman with a righteous cause. I think that's one of the best replies given from a freeware producer yet. I just don't want to see the well dry up at some point because of no return on investment.

[UKMIL]

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1289755224_3_FT57326_image2.jpg

given that most of our products amas a download of around 10,000. if only 10% give £1 it will be worth the effort

[UKMIL]

few more

There plans for a GR1 conversion, then the F3!

[AndyE1976]

I refuse to go to payware, as that brings a whole load of issues. if people pay for a product, they have a right to complain. if it is free, they can just throw it in the bin if I do not want to fix the issue raised.

This however will be a donationware. I am going to ask everyone who downloads, to dontate £1 to Help for Heroes. :salute:

Definitely a good cause and a good looking plane - any cockpit shots yet?

[UKMIL]

yip indeed

[SADT]

You'll be getting my pound! :jump:

Great work, and even better idea for Help-for-Heroes! :salute:

[UKMIL]

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[merida72]

Yesss!!!!

I'm sorry, maybe it's already been said, but provided you have other versions?

[UKMIL]

what other versions?

[merida72]

the German and Italian version...

[UKMIL]

They will come later, we are planning the GR1, followed by the F3 first

[IanHenry]

Really looking forward to this, the Tornado has been neglected by FSX developers.
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Regards,
Ian.

[UKMIL]

we still have a large amount of VC gauge work to do, so it will be a while. Is there any gauge experts out there who wish to lend a hand to this?

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1290356569_3_FT57326_image2.jpg

[UKMIL]

the F3

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1290422236_3_FT0_image2.jpg

[FSDSMAN]

Really looking forward to this, the Tornado has been neglected by FSX developers.
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Regards,
Ian.

Oh no it hasn't
Screens to come shortly. New build from the ground up :gameon:

[UKMIL]

Oh no it hasn't
Screens to come shortly. New build from the ground up :gameon:

As is this one. I hope yours is freeware, as it will have some stiff competition

[IanHenry]

I think I'll have one of each lads! I love the Tornado, especially watching them doing touch and go’s at RAF Lossimouth (here’s hoping that they don’t close the base).
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[FSDSMAN]

As is this one. I hope yours is freeware, as it will have some stiff competition
No it will not be freeware as I am sure that yours will fill that gap.
Any subject modelled there will always be competition - but that is no reason to stop :salute:

[UKMIL]

fair enough mate, there is plenty room out there for us all:salute:

[UKMIL]

not long now till release. THen will come the GR1, and the GR4A

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1290797421_3_FT57326_image1.jpg

[UKMIL]

This will be the first FS tornado with opening panels, such as the Ground Maint Panel, and CMP, plus LOX Pot

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1290872172_3_FT57326_image1.jpg

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1290874867_3_FT57326_image1.jpg

it also has a fully customisable load system, so you are not stuck to the loads we decide:salute:

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1290872865_3_FT57326_image2.jpg

[UKMIL]

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notice the reverse thrust smoke

[brianf51]

Have to say DC I do like the look of that :salute:

[UKMIL]

Thanks Brian, we now also have the GR1 and GR4A

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1291123141_3_FT57326_image6.jpg


http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1291148363_3_FT57326_image1.jpg

[UKMIL]

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1291230198_3_FT57390_image5.jpg

[IanHenry]

Great stuff, can't wait to get a Tonka in my hanger!

Regards,
Ian.

[Daube]

It looks better and better, congratulations !! :jump:
The only things I don't like are the canopy and the engine intakes.
The canopy looks like there's not reflection at all, FS98 style. But you said already it looked better ingame than in the screenshots, so I will wait until I see the final version.
The engine intakes are too clear. They need a bit of shadowing, like ambiant occlusion.

[UKMIL]

I have since altered the intake colour, so that will make a difference. As for the glass, I am playing with the settings to see if i can get more shine on it.

[Dag]

Hi,

Looking at this project with great interest. My last fling with an FS Tonka was the one of Lago's so it has been a while.
Are you able to bake in some shading on the textures? It always enhances the overall 3D feel and realism. A layer as such would be great for a repaint kit as well.

Thanks

[UKMIL]

all the textures are currently layered PSD's so a paintkit will be available for people to add extra dirt

[Dag]

I wasn't talking about dirt, I was talking about "baked in shading" rendered in the 3D program, but never mind.

Thanks

[gera]

When the bits and pixels just don't work out right, here is some inspiration to boost your esprit de corps:

http://www.miliwoman.com/UK/Army/military_woman_uk_army_000104.jpg.html

Now there is a nice pilot for you!!!!...women are the best in whatever they get into, right?:ernae:

[italoc]

Now there is a nice pilot for you!!!!...women are the best in whatever they get into, right?:ernae:
Agree !!!
Italo

[Rattler]

She is a Bombshell Indeed, Yum.....

She can be my Wingman Anytime!!!!:salute::salute::salute:

[Pultacatt]

If this is to be payware then:

There are some major probs with the Cockpit and Canopy that need looking at.

If it's freeware and accessable then:

By eck! Nice one and thank you very much!

[UKMIL]

you obviously have not read the tread, it is FREEWARE as always from us. we have put months into this build, and it will be released for free, so you will get what you get. But for free you are getting a payware product

[UKMIL]

we are hoping for a 1st Jan release on this, here is the VC nearly done

[UKMIL]

a seasonal GR1

Ignore the Taileron Angle, that is the autopilot trying to keep her level at the low speed:salute:

[Daube]

Thanks for those shots ! :ernae:

[UKMIL]

a couple more to wet the appetite

remember, this will be DONATIONWARE, and we urge everyone to DONATE £1 to HELP FOR HEROES when downloading this

[IanHenry]

I think this (and the good cause) are worth more than just one pound!

Ian.

[UKMIL]

well, give what you would pay for it, thats all we ask:salute:

[2Low]

given that most of our products amas a download of around 10,000. if only 10% give £1 it will be worth the effort


I think this (and the good cause) are worth more than just one pound!

Ian.


well, give what you would pay for it, thats all we ask:salute:

I really hope people step up to the plate for you on this one. It's an excellent cause and a wonderfull gift to the community.

I'll donate 10-15 pounds myself depending on funds at the time.

I :salute: your efforts.

[Bjoern]

One definately can't complain about the "bang for the buck" ratio of this model. Count me in!

[XLR8]

Nice aircraft UKMIL. Hardly wait for it.

[peter12213]

I'll donate 10-15 pounds myself depending on funds at the time..

Same goes for me!:salute:

[UKMIL]

I have been slaving away on the VC lighting over the last 24 hours

[peter12213]

Looks like time well spent mate!

[AusWilko]

Man that looks very nice indeed

[noddy]

remember, this will be DONATIONWARE, and we urge everyone to DONATE £1 to HELP FOR HEROES when downloading this

A worthy cause. :applause:

[UKMIL]

Nearly there, please save some of your Xmas cash for a worth cause

[UKMIL]

z2F69PLYmmU

[UKMIL]

http://www.justgiving.com/ukmil

[strykerpsg]

Just dontated. Very worthy cause. Thanks David and UKMIL team.

Matt

[UKMIL]

Just dontated. Very worthy cause. Thanks David and UKMIL team.

Matt

Many Thanks Matt

[Cag40Navy]

I will donate sometime this week.

Oh, and what Tornado variants are in this pack?

[UKMIL]

as it stands, you get the GR4, GR4A and GR1

We aim to complete the IDS and ECR early next year, then move onto the F3

here is Shiney 2

[Cag40Navy]

Thank you! I look forward to them also.

[IanHenry]

Thanks Guys, donation sent. To give some idea of how much Help the Heroes is held in the public’s heart, the sixth formers (16 to 18) at the school where I work have managed to raise a small fortune, so well done to them.
We need to remember the debt we all owe those Guys, they are indeed “Heroes”
Regards,
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[UKMIL]

Many thanks for the donation

As you can prob tell by my Avatar, I am a serving member of the forces, so this is close to my heart. I have also worked on the Tornado for 20 years now, so indeed the subject is also close to my heart


We are still on course for a JAN 1st RELEASE on this:salute:

[IanHenry]

I’m just hoping that the government don’t close RAF Lossimouth down & scrap its Tornados, but I think they probably will. I think they will leave us defenceless.
Never mind, it will mean more money for the banks and bigger bonuses for city fatcats!
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Regards,
Ian.

[UKMIL]

just an update

Beta testing is underway. We are aiming to release this as soon as we have completed Beta.

We have found a good Gauge Guru, who has given us new Radar, Tcas and Terrain Following Gauges

You can view our online Manual in the meantime to see the features available

http://ukmil.hopto.org/manuals/tonka

[IanHenry]

Can't wait too see this!

Ian.

[Matt Wynn]

woohoo! Shiny Two! man i have fond memories of standing in the drizzle in LFA07 (Low Flying Area Zero-Seven, the Mach Loop) and seeing that race through... a must have for me this, great work guys! can't wait to see what you have lined up after Tonka....

and thanks go to you from myself, as a soldier for making this in support of Help for Heroes, to me your act will not be forgotten, hell if you're ever in the Midlands around Tamworth area i'll buy you a drink! i hope that you raise a lot of cash for this worthy charity... congrats and good luck with her :salute:

[thunder100]

Just Donated

I have the Alphasim& the old IRIS in FSX but who can have enough Tonka's-->especially if it serves a great purpose

Good luck with the number of donators

Roland

PS:Uncomparable but out team's(Manfred) Starliner had approx 32.000 Downloads-->free-->so 1 pound +(++++) should get at least 10% of that

[UKMIL]

Just Donated

PS:Uncomparable but out team's(Manfred) Starliner had approx 32.000 Downloads-->free-->so 1 pound +(++++) should get at least 10% of that

that is the plan. I have set a goal of £2000

[strykerpsg]

that is the plan. I have set a goal of £2000
Wow! Sorta dismayed at the lacking for support of this project via donations. Seems but a pittance to ask, for such a quality product. Perhaps more will come once the project's released. Great screenshots and thanks for what you're doing, both in the donationware/freeware department and yourHelp for Heroes Project. Looking very much to its release, though admittedly in the midst of a move but will certainly be one of the first things I try when I finish my PCS back to PNW.

Matt

[UKMIL]

I have decided to include the IDS in the pack too, so it might bring in a few more donations:salute:

[Cag40Navy]

I wouldnt worry bout releasing the IDS now, you should just wait and put it in the next pack because the ECR going to need a buddy. Just saying.

[morpheusfz]

An Native IDS for FSX, thats really cool.

[UKMIL]

I wouldnt worry bout releasing the IDS now, you should just wait and put it in the next pack because the ECR going to need a buddy. Just saying.

what buddy?

[Cag40Navy]

Well, my excuse for what i was said is so that if more needs to be done, it can be done and the release is as smooth as a babies behind.

[harrybasset]

Just a question about donating. Do I donate on the Help for Heroes website? No problem for me but how will you keep score?

[UKMIL]

http://ukmil.hopto.org/manuals/tonka/

click on the HFH logo in the Manual

[peter12213]

Everytime I see an update to this I looks better and better, just one question though mate, will there be a storm shaddow loadout option?

[UKMIL]

not sure, but probably as the IDS carried it too

[UKMIL]

and here she is, carrying a single Shadow

[peter12213]

That looks stunning mate, it really does! :salute:

[UKMIL]

here is a quick shot of the IDS. There will be a small delay in release, but about a week, whilst we shoe-horn in a working Terrain Following Radar system. This is a new system being developed by our gauge expert, which uses the autopilot to avoid the floor!

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1293746194_3_FT57326_image2.jpg

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1293746112_3_FT57326_image1.jpg

[UKMIL]

a quick pic of a LITENING pod under test with 41(R)

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1293750838_3_FT57326_image1.jpg

[IanHenry]

Are we any closer? I can't wait for this beauty!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Regards,
Ian.

[peter12213]

I've got to say I'm with Ian on this one, the anticipation is killing me too!:salute:

[XLR8]

Yeah...I'm waiting for this to.

[UKMIL]

we have been in BETA for around 6 days, and I think we are almost ready to release, prob within hours

[IanHenry]

Wow thats great, thanks.

Ian

[UKMIL]

on the back of the Bomber, we are converting this to the ADV

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1295029787_3_FT0_image3.jpg

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/e107_files/public/1295029787_3_FT0_image5.jpg

[delta_lima]

The GR4, and all the ground-focused variants look superb. This will definitely be worth waiting for.

cheers - and many thanks for the hard work on this.

dl

[UKMIL]

the GR4 was released 2 weeks ago, and had around 500 downloads so far. A few issues have been raised which we are now working through, so the download has been removed for now

[IanHenry]

Dave,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
I think, maybe the Gr4 was not given enough publicity when it was released and a lot of people (and potential contributors) have missed it. It really is a superb piece of work, well done and thank you.
Regards,
Ian.<o:p></o:p>

[UKMIL]

indeed, I wanted just the normal UKMIL community to have a look first, and as expected, we have a few issues to fix

once fixed, it will be re-released, then publicised

[UKMIL]

re-released

[huub vink]

Thanks Dave!

Huub

[peter12213]

Thanks Dave!

[Quixoticish]

Absolutely fantastic work Dave.

Is there any chance of a paint kit at all?

[UKMIL]

There already is, however as usual it is only available to our premium club members

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/download.php?list.48

[Quixoticish]

There already is, however as usual it is only available to our premium club members

http://www.ukmil.org.uk/download.php?list.48

Thanks again Dave. I'm very much looking forward to the F3 and relevant paint kit.

Keep up the excellent work!

[UKMIL]

http://simviation.com/1/browse-Military-57-0

[Dag]

You don't allow hotmail addresses for registering... oh well..
Used a "good e-mail address" and now I cannot get the repaint kit. Oh "double well"...

[UKMIL]

we had to stop spammers and hackers, who use FREE web addresses to get access to our site. You cannot complain for us trying to protect ourselves. We were hacked 3 times in 3 months before I banned free emails

99% of people are given email accounts with their internet provider, for the 1% we cannot take chances.

However, I can make manual accounts, using hotmail addresses, if I know they come from a good source, so simply PM me your details., and I will create you an account

[Dag]

As said above, I have registered successfully with my ISP e-mail but, in addition, I need to become a Club Member to get access to the repaint kit. I'll see what I will do. I've never paid £9.99 to be able to access a repaint kit for a freeware aircraft before.

Thanks for the help

[UKMIL]

maybe you have not, but this repaint developer only gives the repaint kits to it's club members, it is after all our perogative. You are of course free to download the freeware aircraft, and produce your own paintkit.:salute:

[Dag]

maybe you have not, but this repaint developer only gives the repaint kits to it's club members, it is after all our perogative. You are of course free to download the freeware aircraft, and produce your own paintkit.:salute:

Respected and fully understood :salute::salute:

[Bjoern]

Donated; downloading.

Thanks for the work, UKMIL. :salute:

[UKMIL]

many thanks for your donation, much appreciated :salute:

[italoc]

Bravo Ukmil, great work:jump:
Now ''painters'' please, please give me some AMI textures !!!!!!:wiggle::wiggle:
Thanks
Italo

[Dag]

Bravo Ukmil, great work:jump:
Now ''painters'' please, please give me some AMI textures !!!!!!:wiggle::wiggle:
Thanks
Italo

I won't be doing any paints for this one. Had a short test flight today and this aircraft is not to my taste.

[UKMIL]

entirely your choice, I am sure the FS world will continue without them:wavey:

[UKMIL]

Bravo Ukmil, great work:jump:
Now ''painters'' please, please give me some AMI textures !!!!!!:wiggle::wiggle:
Thanks
Italo

the AMI textures are coming, I just had to make sure the Italian IDS was basically the same as the German

[Dag]

entirely your choice, I am sure the FS world will continue without them:wavey:

:jump: LOL Many thanks for this comment, I just expressed my taste LOL.

Thanks

[Hanimichal]

Thanks
I really like this plane

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/841UKMIL_Tornado_GR4_1.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/233UKMIL_Tornado_GR4_2.jpg

[Quixoticish]

Admittedly performance is a bit poor on my machine so I think I'll resize a lot of the textures (primarily the odds and sods in the shared folder) and there are a few little glitches (double wingtip contrails at times, no engine sound when not using burner and panned to the rear of the aircraft) but these are all simple tweaks to fix and it's certainly a keeper.

Lovely to see a native GR4 in FSX.

[DennyA]

Hey folks, the Tornadoes are out, and they're awesome! Gr.1, Gr.4, and ADF. NICE! And they're donationware -- download, and then hopefully toss a couple of pounds at a good cause.

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[Roger]

Good point Denny. Ideally a release thread would have been started which would then be stickied. I'll stickie this thread with the title changed to "released".

[UKMIL]

Admittedly performance is a bit poor on my machine so I think I'll resize a lot of the textures (primarily the odds and sods in the shared folder) and there are a few little glitches (double wingtip contrails at times, no engine sound when not using burner and panned to the rear of the aircraft) but these are all simple tweaks to fix and it's certainly a keeper.

Lovely to see a native GR4 in FSX.


if you manage to make any improvements, feel free to drop them over to me, and I will incorporate them in an update:salute:

[Bjoern]

Is it my taxiing skills or does the Tonka really love tipping over in tight turns?

[UKMIL]

it does if you try and turn too fast yes

[Warrant]

Great work, UKMIL!

You been promoted recently?

[UKMIL]

Great work, UKMIL!

You been promoted recently?

indeed

[vonstroheim]

Admittedly performance is a bit poor on my machine...

I love the Ukmil Tornado, but on my laptop FPS are quite bad... I suspect a VC issue... So, since this is quite trendy these days, I swapped Dino's Grumman F14D VC into the Tornado and voilà, I have a beautiful Tornadino to fly around with no more FPS dips!

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The HSI/GPS comes from the FS9 Iris Tornado and the PFD is from the default EH101... It adds a little bit of colours...

Here is how to do this painlessly (you should have Dino's F14D already installed). Hope it's ok with you Ukmil if I post this... for us guys with cheap or old computers...

Update to the model.cfg files like this...


[models]
normal=gr1
interior=..\..\Grumman_F14D\model\f14d2


Add the "F14" line to each texture.cfg files, for the VC textures... No need to copy / move any files!


[fltsim]
fallback.1=..\..\UKMIL Tornado Shared\Texture.common
fallback.2=..\..\Grumman_F14D\texture
fallback.3=..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\Texture
fallback.4=..\..\..\..\Texture


Copy the F14G panel.cfg file to the Tornado panel folder (backup the previous one). Add this to the [vcockpit01] section:



gauge01=F3!Effect Controller1, 0,0,1,1
gauge02=F3!SonicSound, 0,0,1,1


Dont' forget to adjust the viewpoint like this in the aircraft.cfg file: eyepoint = 15, 0.0, 4.72

These are the main tricks... Now you can play with the MFD gauges, sounds, effects and such... or keep it simple.... and have fun!

RAF Marham scenery by John Young, 1M hours repaint by Ukmil.

[UKMIL]

no problems, I know there was an issue with the VC, but tried as i did, I could not elminate the FSP issues in the VC.

[Vox]

Absolutely awesome!!!
I read the whole post in search of clues about the Italian liveries but I've only read about a promise far on January 25th.
I see that the ADV version has got AMI textures but what about the IDS/ECR? Did I miss something?

Great great job!
Cheers to everyone :salute:

Chris

[delta_lima]

I love the Ukmil Tornado, but on my laptop FPS are quite bad... I suspect a VC issue... So, since this is quite trendy these days, I swapped Dino's Grumman F14D VC into the Tornado and voilà, I have a beautiful Tornadino to fly around with no more FPS dips!

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Are the attachments available for re-post, please?

thanks!

dl

[vonstroheim]

Are the attachments available for re-post, please?

No looks like they are lost forever... Here's a new one:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/51731340thtornado.jpg

RAF Tornado GR4 40th Anniversary by UKMIL (http://www.ukmil.org.uk/download.php)

[delta_lima]

Thanks Von!

which new one? Isn't this the same GR4 from ukmil? Sorry - am confused ... :)

dl


No looks like they are lost forever... Here's a new one:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/51731340thtornado.jpg

RAF Tornado GR4 40th Anniversary by UKMIL (http://www.ukmil.org.uk/download.php)

[vonstroheim]

"New" screenshots, same "old" UKMIL Tornado (http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=ukmil+tornado)... Here the IDS variant with Dino's F14 VC:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/936896ids.jpg

[delta_lima]

Thanks V!!

Got it merged (partially) - VC's there, but no HUD or MFD. But it's a great start, for now!!

dl

[delta_lima]

So I did the F-14D v2.4 VC portover as a trial - and got everything work ... but now the wings stay fully forward and with no flap control.

Has anyone figured out how to make the wing sweep work properly if using Dino's VC?

It's a great model, and though the (UKMIL) VC is heavy on frames, subbing in Dino's works quite nicely.

cheers,

DL

[delta_lima]

Just a wee bump to see if vonstroheim or anyone else knew if it was possible to have the wing sweep and flaps functioning following the Dino F-14D VC merge.

I'm wondering if the coding of the newest model is incompatible with the model? It's odd, since Von seems to have gotten it to work a few years ago - that's all I can think of ...

thanks so very much in advance,

dl

[vonstroheim]

...possible to have the wing sweep and flaps functioning following the Dino F-14D VC merge...

Yes it's possible. Simply remove a line from the [Vcockpit01] section (with backslash):

//gauge02=rcb-gauges!F14FlapsControl, 0, 0

The Ukmil Tornado with latest Dino's F-14D v2.40 VC looks like this, nice!

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/35455943f3.jpg

[xpelekis]

Ok. That's very interesting. Never had seen this post before.

I'll be direct : Is there a way for me to have this plane as moded with the F-14 VC ?
Thank you.

[vonstroheim]

Is there a way for me to have this plane as moded with the F-14 VC ?

Sorry, no. That wouldn't be fair to John Young and Dino Cattaneo, not to mention copyright issues. But you have the merge receipe right here in this thread, and it's great fun to build by yourself a ride with parts from various donor aircrafts. A complete package would spoil the fun...

[delta_lima]

Thanks Von!!!!

I'll try tonight!

dl

[xpelekis]

Yeap ! Thank's a lot. Didn't notice the info you mentioned before.
This model, apart of the very good external looks has also modeled
the weapons payload the same way with the Tacpacked planes.

I like the Tornado very much and it will do for some nice mission flying.
I've just started messing with her :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9d75gWfkVc&feature=youtu.be

[xpelekis]

May I ask : How did you manage the RIO cockpit to show up ?

Thank you.

[delta_lima]

Hello Von,

So the flaps/wing sweep is sorted. Many thanks for that.

I've added your vcockpit entries, and still my AB is on full - with the right on with full length flame - irrespective of throttle position. After much toggling, I've tracked it to the recognition light - so when that's off, they're off altogether, whether throttle is on full AB or not.

So then I looked at your vcockpit entries, and noted there's a call from a cab called "F3" - and that's when I wondered if that's the problem - there is no such cab in the original panel folder, or of course the Dino F14 panel - so wondering if there's an issue with how the AB gets invoked?

Wondering if/how you go them to come on only when they should ....

thanks,

dl

[vonstroheim]

...my AB is on full ... irrespective of throttle position...

The afterburner effect is controlled by the "F3!Effect Controller1" gauge, from the "F3.CAB" file. This CAB file is in the "UKMIL Tornado F3 [ADV]" package here (http://www.ukmil.org.uk/download.php?list.113) or ukmf3.zip @ FlighSim.com.

The related afterburner effects are in the "UKMIL Tornado SHARED FILES pack V2" package (but you already have those installed): here (http://www.ukmil.org.uk/download.php?list.113) or ukmtonkash.zip @ FlightSim.com

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/891928tonka1.jpg


...How did you manage the RIO cockpit to show up ?

You have to turn it on with this knob:

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/155164tonka2.jpg

Scenery: Solomon X (http://www.news.emeraldscenerydesign.com/) by Emerald Scenery Design; Repaint: Steve Inwood Tribute (http://www.ukmil.org.uk/DLA2/comment.php?dlid=1021) by UKMIL; Tornado by UKMIL, F14D cockpit by Dino Cattaneo

[xpelekis]

Thank you for all info, but I mean that though front cockpit (pilot) is shown up ok,
I cant show up ("spawn") the rear RIO pit...
Where I do wrong about that ? Any idea ?

[xpelekis]

@ Delta Lima : My Panel.cfg (of VC1 in altered F-14D ) Try this line (blue - works for me) :


gauge00=F14D_HUD!HUD_F14D, 182,80,500,500 // F-14D HUD
gauge01=Sound/dsd_fsx_xml_sound!Sound,0,0,0,0,./SimObjects/Airplanes/UKMIL Tornado Shared/Panel/Sound/Sound.ini
gauge02=ukmil_tornado!Effect Controller, 461,425,20,20
//gauge02=F3!Effect Controller1, 0,0,1,1
gauge03=F3!SonicSound, 0,0,1,1
//gauge04=rcb-gauges!F14FlapsControl, 0, 0
gauge04=Tactical!F14DTactical, 0,0
gauge05=Tactical!SMS, 0, 0
gauge06=dsd_fsx_fuel_dump!fuel_dump, 1024,1024,0,0

@ Everyone interested : "Tornadino" can use Tacpack configuration also from F-14.

1. It just needs in Tornado's "Panel" folder, folders :
F14D, F14D_HUD, F14D_MFD, rcb-gauges, Tactical, dsd_fsx_fuel_dump and

2. In main plane folder :
the tacpack .ini, .sig, -user.ini, tp-public key

All F-14D Weapons seem to work apart of the gun.

I suspect this needs the RIO pit. That's why I needed it. Also for the A/A & AA/G Radars of course.....

VIDEO REPOSTED :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmGWDhPQk3M

[vonstroheim]

I can't show up ("spawn") the rear RIO pit... Any idea ?

Yes you have the RIO back seat, but you need to add in the aircraft.cfg file a "camera definition" to see it. Sorry can't send you mine right now...

[xpelekis]

Thank you very much for the "logic" info.

For RIO VC camera, you may add to the "Aircraft.cfg" of moded plane (ie, the modded F-14D .cfg),
the following lines at cameras section. Works for me just fine. You may set "InitialZoom = 0.7" to less (eg, 0.3)
for a wider cockpit FOV.


[CameraDefinition.8]
Title = "RIO Virtual Cockpit"
Guid = {B71E7CA4-B197-42d7-8D1A-9EDEE0851641}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.7
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.00, 0.20, -1.59
InitialPbh=0, 0, 0

Thank's again. I really like this plane like that...:untroubled:

[delta_lima]

Thanks Von - got the reheat going the way it should.

Thanks too, X - I guess that would have worked also.

For some reason (and admittedly a bit OT), the GR1 doesn't covert as "neatly" - a bit of a funny black hourglass shaped black form appears between the windscreen and the radome. I've tried deleting various potentially offending texture files, but nothing works, or they're integral to the Dino F-14 pit. It's a pity, since the paints I really like are on the GR 1 (Winter, Granby, and some of the older 80s green camo). But when they get dragged onto the GR 4 model, that same funny effect appears. Ah well, I've got the 12 Sqn and Telic, that'll do for now.

Much appreciate the help everyone's rendered on this - and of course to Gaffer, for a great model.

dl

[Manschy]

Hi everybody,

absolutely excited about this fantastic bird! Following this thread, I think no payware Tonka is needed anymore. But just found out there is one thing missing to get me satisfied at all: A manual how to change the payload configuration. I heard about an online manual, but unfortunately the link seems to be broken or corrupted. So does anybody can help with the payload here, please? It would be great to be able to use all amazing features of this great aircraft.