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simkid22
September 30th, 2008, 14:38
After checking out the Falcon 50 thread in the FS9 forums I though that the fun shouldn't be limited to just them. Guess what it ports over! (for the most part) The model doesn't have any problems with untextured parts and no props to worry about. Aside from the usual gauge problems found in panels of this vintage, the only other problem is I cant get the panel in the VC to show up. I'm hoping the VC issue is an alpha channel problem. Untill a fully FSX F-50 is out, this is a great substitute.

Warrant
September 30th, 2008, 15:16
Great model (originally a FS2002 bird to my best recollection):medals:.
Had many fun hours with it. Has a great virtual interior as well.

Perhaps you should browse some French sites iot find out if some FSX mods are done.

If you have problems with understanding (reading) French, use Google translator.

simkid22
September 30th, 2008, 15:26
Je connait francais just not that many french FS sites :redf:

Lionheart
September 30th, 2008, 15:40
Try looking up Yannik Lavinne (I think thats his name). He was into FS strongly years ago.

Wozza might know him also.



Bill

expat
October 1st, 2008, 03:45
Think that's spelled Lavigne, actually.

Daube
October 1st, 2008, 04:47
I tried to correct this issue some time ago by editing the Alpha channels in DXTBMP. Normally I am quite used to this kind of corrections, but in this precise case I was completely unable to get a proper display of the VC.

This plane looks great so I hope somebody will find a trick to make it work.

JT8D-9A
October 1st, 2008, 05:13
Do you already use the modification by Martin Becker (for FS9, but who knows..): http://www.flusi.info/files/Falcon50_2k4.zip ?

And a few improvements:

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar =1.0
parasite_drag_scalar =0.9
induced_drag_scalar =0.9
elevator_effectiveness =7.0
aileron_effectiveness =3.0
rudder_effectiveness =3.0
pitch_stability =1.0
roll_stability =1.0
yaw_stability =1.0
elevator_trim_effectiveness=1.0
aileron_trim_effectiveness =1.0
rudder_trim_effectiveness =1.0

[Autopilot]
autothrottle_max_rpm=99

Checklist: http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=73273

Falcon 50 Training Manual: http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=24819

Maybe you can fix it with MDLMat.

n4gix
October 1st, 2008, 12:50
Several years ago I was sent the interior of the Falcon50's .gmax file so I could rebuilt it to FS2004 specifications and add emissive gauge backlighting.

After devoting two weeks of my valuable time to the project, I returned the completed project to them. Unfortunately, they never rolled the new VC into the original .gmax source file, nor did they ever release an updated model...

...I'm still quite annoyed about that! :banghead:

Daube
October 2nd, 2008, 03:52
Maybe you should send those sources to some of the freeware makers here, so that they get a chance to convert this beauty to native FSX SP2 (or at least, FSX SP2 compatible) ?

n4gix
October 2nd, 2008, 06:22
Maybe you should send those sources to some of the freeware makers here, so that they get a chance to convert this beauty to native FSX SP2 (or at least, FSX SP2 compatible) ?

Well, that would be a problem for several reasons. The primary one being that I don't even have the entire interior of the model. I only have the glareshield and virtual panels.

More to the point though it would be unethical for me to share even that partial .gmax file and bitmaps without permission from the original modeler...

...and he hasn't been answering email for well over three years now... :banghead:

vonstroheim
October 23rd, 2010, 08:03
I tried to correct this issue some time ago by editing the Alpha channels in DXTBMP. Normally I am quite used to this kind of corrections, but in this precise case I was completely unable to get a proper display of the VC.

This plane looks great so I hope somebody will find a trick to make it work.

Hi guys, I was able to make the Yannick Lavigne's Dassault Falcon 50 Virtual Cockpit to show properly in FSX. And replaced most of the gauges by some from the default King Air and Lear, and some freeware gauges from the Concorde (attitude and trim) and Dassault Alphajet (gear and flpas). It looks good! I still have to do the overhead panel... And didn't find a nice weather radar yet... Ok this is an old fs2002 design, but the impact on the FSX framerate is minimal, unlike most fs9 port-over! And this plane was so well designed back then (by Yannick Lavigne - Fred Banting - Rob Young), it is still a freeware gem even in FSX!!! I found some tips in a french forum, I'll try to find it again so I can credit the guy. Don't know how to publish this... Any advice? It's only 2 bmp files and the panel.cfg reworked...
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Daube
October 23rd, 2010, 10:20
Wow, congratulations !
Looks like you did a pretty good job here, can't wait to see the final result. Yes this plane was built for FS2002, but it was nicely shaped and it had excellent textures, so it still looks very good today.

vonstroheim
October 23rd, 2010, 20:00
Several years ago I was sent the interior of the Falcon50's .gmax file so I could rebuilt it to FS2004 specifications and add emissive gauge backlighting.
After devoting two weeks of my valuable time to the project, I returned the completed project to them. Unfortunately, they never rolled the new VC into the original .gmax source file, nor did they ever release an updated model...
...I'm still quite annoyed about that! :banghead:

Yes it's a pity the original designers are hard to track down... Would you have better luck than me? Today I've made the night lighting cockpit with some King Air and Bell default gauges. For the engine gauges it looks nice but it is highly unrealistic, the King Air is not a trijet ! If you look very closely you'll see prop rpm gauges... shame... Where do I find trijet engine analog gauges? and the overhead panel is hard to build...
Since my laptop has a 16:9 screen, I've made a widescreen 2d panel...
2197621977
There's no secret here, basicaly all you have to do for making the VC show in FSX, make some background panel bmp images and in the panel.cfg add a "file" line like this:

[VCockpit01]
file=panel_VC1.bmp
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$vcg1
background_color=0,0,0
visible=1
[...]

There's 4 places like this, 2 for day (pilot left half panel+copilot right half panel), 2 for night (same). So I just made 4 bmp images, tweaked the gauges, et voila ! Thanks to André (esmdu) at pilote-virtuel.com for the tip.

falcon409
October 23rd, 2010, 21:11
Would be great if once this is all figured out, it was posted somewhere together. I looked for and downloaded what I could find, but after loading everything all I get is "Visual Model cannot be displayed".
Also, just a personal opinion, but if this guys been invisible for 3yrs and you've made every effort to locate him with no results. . .I think you've gone beyond the statute of limitations for feeling bad if you turn what you have over to someone else to finish.
At the outset I'm sure he wanted this to be protected and that's all well and good, but if you leave the sim world, change your name or e-mail address or move to another country and fail to leave any forwarding information. . . . . . ."I'm just sayin'":wiggle:

expat
October 24th, 2010, 04:16
Yikes! Almost missed this. Yes, I agree you can post these changes in the circumstances - this was freeware and has been modded by third parties before. So please post these updates!

expat
October 24th, 2010, 07:11
She doesn't look too bad either in FSX . .

Bjoern
October 24th, 2010, 07:33
For a weather radar, try the one from CalClassic's Convair 580.

vonstroheim
October 26th, 2010, 20:01
Yes making progress with my Falcon panel for FSX. I know some of you are doing the same around here. Hope the buzz will catch and a nice set of gauges will suddendly appear! I might have found a weather radar with a MD11 package, but still no trijet analog gauges... don't want no glass cockpit with this Falcon. Not yet... I've checked a very nice Tristar, even a Tupolev 154, but I was disappointed with the gauges, most of them fs2002, again...
Help!
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Sylvain's Clemenceau is so nice.... Can't help uploading this one:
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And this one...
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Bjoern
October 27th, 2010, 15:27
Try the gauges from HJG's panels, they're (said to be) FSX compatible.

http://www.simviation.com/hjg/

Daube
October 28th, 2010, 00:56
Yes making progress with my Falcon panel for FSX. I know some of you are doing the same around here. Hope the buzz will catch and a nice set of gauges will suddendly appear! I might have found a weather radar with a MD11 package, but still no trijet analog gauges... don't want no glass cockpit with this Falcon. Not yet... I've checked a very nice Tristar, even a Tupolev 154, but I was disappointed with the gauges, most of them fs2002, again...
Help!
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Sylvain's Clemenceau is so nice.... Can't help uploading this one:
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And this one...
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The gauges from the liners at dmflightsim.co.uk are compatible with FSX.
Also, the Dassault aircrafts made by Rollus, I'm thinking about the Mirage IV for example, have compatible gauges.

vonstroheim
October 28th, 2010, 08:53
Thanks guys, you're most helpful!

The gauges from the HJG's 727 are compatible indeed and very nice but don't light up at night!
I'll try the gauges from the Mirage IV. The Trident from dmflightsim.co.uk looks promising as well... So far it looks like this:

2D panel for 16:9 monitors:
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2D panel for 4:3 monitors:
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The real one looks like this, close enough isn't it? The credit goes to Lavigne and Cie of course...
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vonstroheim
October 29th, 2010, 07:06
With some Tristar gauges (thanks guys) I've improved a lot the Falcon 50 panel. Find it here:
http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=lockheed+L1011+TriStar+2d+panel

There's a fake weather radar, that's alright... It's a real trijet, awesome! There's a lot of switches I might use for the overhead panel, nice!

But gauges don't light up at night. Can I live with that? Mmmm... Not sure... So I'll keep looking for the right medecine...

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fsafranek
October 29th, 2010, 21:40
With some Tristar gauges (thanks guys) I've improved a lot the Falcon 50 panel. Find it here:
http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=lockheed+L1011+TriStar+2d+panel

There's a fake weather radar, that's alright... It's a real trijet, awesome! There's a lot of switches I might use for the overhead panel, nice!

But gauges don't light up at night. Can I live with that? Mmmm... Not sure... So I'll keep looking for the right medecine...

22453
Looks like it's coming along nicely. Can we have a copy of your panel.cfg when you get closer? Perhaps we can help?
:ernae:

vonstroheim
October 30th, 2010, 17:43
After studying closely how Philippe Wallaert made his xml gauges for his Tristar panel, and after reading some posts in freeflightdesign by Frank about Gau2Bmp and FS Panel Studio (that's the one I use), I've come to the conclusion that the best road to make a nice Falcon in FSX is to extract the bitmaps from all the YL50_xxx.gau file from the original FS98 gauges by Fred Banting and Yannick Lavigne, and then build new ones in XML... It's going to take some time, sure...
By using stock gauges from the Kingair and such, it's working but it's not satisfying...
By using the Tristar gauges by Philippe Wallaert, I feel like a thief....
I'm sure some people are already doing such reverse engeeniring with old FS98 gauges, so yes some help, tips or psychological support is much welcome! And some counselling about copyright could help too... No need to upset anybody by publishing something wrong or too soon...

New screenshot... Changes are not obvious but I'm learning a lot!
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expat
October 31st, 2010, 02:57
That is looking superb.

Am contiuing to experiment, but am several steps behind you. I can't seem to get any night lighting in the VC. It's pretty dark. I have a hyrbrid 2d panel right now using digital EADI and EHSI gauges from the Flight1 PC-12 - which you see retrofitted in quite a few Falcons - while retaining the analogue engine and other gauges. Will start swapping out some of the King Air for the L1011 gauges now. Please keep us posted on your xml work.

vonstroheim
October 31st, 2010, 10:21
Oulala nice panel expat, this ADI is beautiful indeed.
Yes I think I may have the help of a real pro of Xml gauge building. He already made some similar panel for Falcon 7X and 2000. He's the one who made the Tristar panel I'm hacking. So it's very nice of him to join us! Thank you Philippe

vonstroheim
November 1st, 2010, 07:06
Slowly improving the cockpit... I'll stick to analog gauges, maybe I'm too old fashioned...

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But it's because this Dassault Falcon/Mystère 50 is from 1976 and the real one is stored at CAEA (Conservatoire de l'Air et de l'Espace d'Aquitaine) in France, a museum for Dassault retired aircrafts and other french icons.

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Check it out!
http://photos.caea.info/
http://www.caea.info/

PM me if you want the panel.cfg and the 4 VC bitmaps. The XML gauges are not ready yet... But you can fiddle around with stock FS gauges...

vonstroheim
November 1st, 2010, 12:52
I can't seem to get any night lighting in the VC. It's pretty dark.

Maybe you don't have the latest aircraft.cfg file, there is a "lights" section you might need. Here it is:

[LIGHTS]
light.0 = 3, -7.7, -31.2, -2.1, fx_navred ,
light.1 = 3, -7.7, 31.2, -2.1, fx_navgre ,
light.2 = 2, -8, 31.4, -2.1, fx_strobe ,
light.3 = 2, -8, -31.4, -2.1, fx_strobe ,
light.4 = 1, -25.2, 0.00, 17.7, fx_beaconh ,
light.5 = 3, -24.2, 0.00, 8.37, fx_navwhih ,
light.6 = 2, 4.61, 0.00, -3.62, fx_beaconb ,
light.7 = 5, 11.45, -2.10, -2.50, fx_landing.fx
light.8 = 5, 11.45, 2.10, -2.50, fx_landing.fx
light.9 = 4, 24.50, 1.80, 2.55, fx_vclight_f50
light.10= 4, 24.50, -1.80, 2.55, fx_vclight_f50
light.11= 4, 19.00, -0.30, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.12= 4, 14.00, -0.00, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.13= 4, 10.00, -0.00, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.14= 4, 6.00, -0.00, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.15= 4, 0.80, -0.00, 1.05, fx_vclight_f50

expat
November 1st, 2010, 15:40
Thanks for your response. What got it to work for me was to i) use the default vc lights for the cabin lights, and for the VC panel ii) add an entry with the coordinates the same as the eyepoint.

Have now added L1011 gauges, new autopilot (with AT) and created panels for both an analogue - "vintage" - aircraft (as you point out, the plane goes back to 1976 which is cool and to be respected) and also, for fun, an Falcon 50EX which will have greater range and performance.

Before I forget! Borrowed the overhead panel and throttle quadrant for the PAD freeware Falcon 7x and really am now in business. Thanks for the help and inspiration.

vonstroheim
November 1st, 2010, 16:27
Now with FSX you can add "camera definition" in the aircraft.cfg file. It's fun! Here are the one I've adapted from various planes: The inside view is worth the trouble... There's not a lot of aircrafts with such a level of detail in the passenger area in the freeware hobby. And this one dates back from fs2000! The Goose G21 for FS9 was nice, and some big Sikorsky S-42 & S-43 boat planes too, but that's about it...

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Add this at the bottom of the aircraft.cfg file:

// ----------------------- CameraDefinition - outside -----------------

// InitialXyz = lateral , height , length
// InitialPbh = angle , torsion , rotation

[CameraDefinition.0]
Title = "Tail"
Guid = {5c1df273-034b-4e7f-953a-9d5e26f1646c}
Description = Looking forward from behind the aircraft
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .75
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0, 2.3, -20.0
InitialPbh = 10, 0, 0
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.2]
Title = "Landing Gear"
Guid = {96873AAD-621B-4C45-8A58-DEF7B7FCB051}
Description = View of the landing gear and left wing inboard flaps
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .52
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = -3.3, -1.8, -4
InitialPbh = 0, 0, 17
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.3]
Title = "Cinematic 16:9 (left)"
Guid = {f25dfa2e-fd2e-4b89-81e2-0575cbcb60de}
Description =Looking forward from over the left wing
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = -7, 2.0, -12.0
InitialPbh = 6, 0, 25
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.4]
Title = "Cinematic 16:9 - right"
Guid = {C690EAFD-223A-42d0-99E0-681ADF93BB59}
Description =Looking forward from over the right wing
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 7, 2.0, -12.0
InitialPbh = 6, 0, -25
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.5]
Title = "Cinematic - front left"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-2E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Description =Looking backward from over the right wing
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .75
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 7, -2.0, 11.0
InitialPbh = -6, 0, -145
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.6]
Title = "Cinematic - front right"
Guid = {765CCF83-D7CD-4486-8983-A5714310CDD5}
Description =Looking backward from over the right wing
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .75
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = -7, -2.0, 11.0
InitialPbh = -6, 0, 145
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum


// ----------------------- CameraDefinition - inside -----------------

[CameraDefinition.7]
Title = "Right Seat"
Guid = {8ff6c134-098d-409f-baec-caba3f683f98}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .6
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.94, 0.0, 0.0
InitialPbh=20, 0, 330

[CameraDefinition.8]
Title = "Engines status"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-2E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = None
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.6
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.00
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.45, -0.25, -0.1
InitialPbh=14.2, 0, 0

[CameraDefinition.9]
Title = "Engine Controls"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-3E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = None
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.60
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.30, 0.09, -0.18
InitialPbh=40, 0, 10

[CameraDefinition.10]
Title = "Overhead Panel"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-4E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = None
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.9
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.15
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.47, -0.12, -0.4
InitialPbh=-15.0, 0, 0

[CameraDefinition.11]
Title = "Passenger area 1"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-6E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = None
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.7
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.30, 0.09, -0.18
InitialPbh=15, 0, 180

[CameraDefinition.12]
Title = "Passenger area 2"
Guid = {195EAB58-9F4A-6E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = None
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.7
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.75, 0.1, -3.5
InitialPbh=15, 0, 340

[CameraDefinition.13]
Title = "Passenger area 3"
Guid = {195EAB58-9FBA-6E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = None
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.7
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.75, 0.1, -7
InitialPbh=15, 0, 340

expat
November 2nd, 2010, 12:40
Having fun changing the colors in the fx vc light effects - and with your camera views - this is a blast.

expat
November 3rd, 2010, 13:53
Looking good, inside and out . .

Warrant
November 3rd, 2010, 14:43
Nice projects!

Any of you going to publish once finished?

Have very good memories regarding this Falcon 50. Like to see it go airborne once again in FSX one day.

vonstroheim
November 3rd, 2010, 18:40
Any of you going to publish once finished?

Yes it's coming! The regular cockpit is almost ready, some gauges in the overhead panel popup are hard to fix... And I'm waiting for the green light from all the original creators and partners, don't want to upset them... Some did reply !

Just for fun I'll try some inside texture changes. My girlfriend asked for some sheepskin seatcover for pilot and copilot. Since I'm spending way to much time on my computer, I couldn't say no to her, so I found some real aviation equipment web site and we looked at their online catalog, and we settled for a nice honey tan shade... Women... can you believe it... Screenshot soon...

vonstroheim
November 4th, 2010, 19:30
Xml programming of switches is not that difficult. Locating the original bitmap of the red switches was a bit more challenging (remember the overhead panel didn't work in FS9). Puting it all together with FS Panel Studio is a piece of cake... I'll try to keep as close as possible to the original look. And some switches are still wrong or missing... So not ready yet...
And after that? Illuminating the engines gauges would be a nice touch. André told me how to do it... But I'm a bit lazy tonight... And I want to fly!

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"Cold-and-dark" In Nice Cote d'Azur...

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Lionheart
November 5th, 2010, 00:45
Thanks for the update. This is great to hear.

How is Yannick doing? Is he one of the people that responded? He was pretty good at models.

vonstroheim
November 5th, 2010, 11:00
Repainting the inside compartment is not that easy. My experiments with the sheepskin seat cover was terrible... I trashed it right away... I'll stick to gauges, nothing else. I realize how difficult it is to be a "texture" creator. And you need a lot of TALENT and PATIENCE of course. Yannick Lavigne had both, I don't have any...

Lavigne was the "artist" who made the wonderful textures I suppose. He had access to the real plane in France. Fred Banting made the incredible cockpit modeling and gauges, Rob did the flight dynamics as realistic as possible, maybe he flew in one of those, or talked to pilots. It's a real dream team. It has to be, the plane wouldn't have survived so many changes in FS software and harware...

More news soon... Have a nice weekend

vonstroheim
November 8th, 2010, 06:51
How is Yannick doing? Is he one of the people that responded? He was pretty good at models.

Rob is the only one who replied so far and he's quite supportive. No trace of Fred Banting anywhere (any clue?), same with Mr Lavigne so far...

So I keep improving the panel with little goodies, trying to stay as close as possible to the original design. I think my autopilot is even better integrated than the original... And the WAAS Gps Map Gauge by Don Kuhn is a good useful alternative to the weather radar...

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The autopilot is very basic, you'll have to adjust the little knobs in each corresponding gauges, like in the real plane I think. Where is the autopilot in a real 1976 Falcon 50 anyway? Did I got it right?

By the way I need an XML gauge with such a little knob and a moving "bug" to adjust the desired speed. I found such a gauge in another Tristar (by OMWings) but it's a C++ gauge I can't recycle. I need the XML equivalent: it's a 450kts variant, it has 3 needles: speed (white), max speed (red and white), desired speed (orange). Pretty common, but haven't found it yet!

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vonstroheim
November 9th, 2010, 20:19
Cosy light thanks to Lee

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Good night everybody! More real news very soon...

Daube
November 10th, 2010, 02:05
Cosy light thanks to Lee
...
Good night everybody! More real news very soon...

Excellent job you've done once more !!
I can't believe this "old" model can still look so good today.




"Cold-and-dark" In Nice Cote d'Azur...

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Tres bon choix d'aeroport, si je puis dire :ernae:

txnetcop
November 10th, 2010, 03:37
Cosy light thanks to Lee

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Good night everybody! More real news very soon...

WOW love that lighting...really great work!
Ted

Brian_Gladden
November 10th, 2010, 04:22
Where are you guys finding some of those repaints I see in the exterior screen shots? particularly, N939FE and N144AD in Expat's screen shots.

Edit: Also as a side note. Looking at the panel shots, the VSI goes under the altimeter in the standard "T" instrument set up. Not the RMI.

sicard
November 10th, 2010, 06:11
Hi,
I am an anonimous french simmer 60 old and i am Filling with admiration for such a project Falcon 50 about you You're wonderfull guy .
One thing only low hat and congratulation.

Patrick Sicard Old worker of Dassault avition in Annecy haute savoie France

Thank you so much

Follow my message to everybody interessed

expat
November 10th, 2010, 08:25
Where are you guys finding some of those repaints I see in the exterior screen shots? particularly, N939FE and N144AD in Expat's screen shots.

Shameless plagiarism :rolleyes:of an eight year old paint by Ron Hamilton (Ron, if you are out there, apologies for not seeking permission - but this 8 year old paint has held up well - thanks!!) of the Archer Daniels corporate jet. Have done a number or alternatives for my own use simply using - shamelessly as well - MS Paint.


<HR align=center width=600 SIZE=2>
<CENTER>FS2002 - FS2002 Aircraft </CENTER><CENTER>FS2002 Dassault Falcon 50
</CENTER><CENTER>[ Download (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=52928) | View (http://www.flightsim.com/zview.php?cm=list&fid=52928) ] </CENTER>
Name: n144ad.zip (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=52928) Size: 1,514,111 Date: 08-04-2002 Downloads: 744
http://www.flightsim.com/h/n144ad.gif FS2002 Dassault Falcon 50 textures. By Ron Hamilton. (See also N144ADNT.ZIP (http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=N144ADNT.ZIP))


Looking at the panel shots, the VSI goes under the altimeter in the standard "T" instrument set up. Not the RMI.


Is this the correct Alt/VSI config in the attached screenie below? I am fooling around with three different panel versions: analogue - like vonstrohiem's; fully digital a la Collins Pro line on the 50EX; and in between as per below, using F1 PC-12 EADI/EHSI.


<LEGEND>http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/misc/paperclip.png Attached Thumbnails</LEGEND>http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22601&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1288518808 (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22601&d=1288518808)

Brian_Gladden
November 10th, 2010, 09:03
Yep, that's the setup :-) VSI under the altimeter

vonstroheim
November 10th, 2010, 09:28
Yep, that's the setup :-) VSI under the altimeter

Ok I'll fix that, no worries! Any idea where is the autopilot in the real plane? I'm not sure it's under the weather radar...


... i am Filling with admiration for such a project Falcon 50 ... old worker of Dassault aviation in Annecy haute savoie France

Merci beaucoup monsieur Sicard pour votre soutient ! C'est un vrai honneur... Mais c'est grace à André que le Falcon 50 revole dans FSX. Vous pouvez suivre nos aventures en francais ici:
http://www.pilote-virtuel.com/viewtopic.php?id=17915&p=1

Brian_Gladden
November 10th, 2010, 13:18
From looking at pics on Airliners.net, it looks like the AP control head is in the center console, aft of the throttles.

Here's the link showing the AP. It's at the very bottom of the photo in the console

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50/0979291/L/

vonstroheim
November 10th, 2010, 14:49
the AP control head is in the center console, aft of the throttles

Yes I see it, thanks! Nice picture!

Also, you can clearly see the two ashtrays... can you believe that.... that's the 70's, the disco era!

sicard
November 11th, 2010, 00:06
Thank you so much again

Vous êtes tous des supers mecs qui savent nous faire rêver et vivre notre passion ,que demander de plus ..si ce n'est que la santé,

A tous All the best

Write you soon

Patrick







Merci beaucoup monsieur Sicard pour votre soutient ! C'est un vrai honneur... Mais c'est grace à André que le Falcon 50 revole dans FSX. Vous pouvez suivre nos aventures en francais ici:
http://www.pilote-virtuel.com/viewtopic.php?id=17915&p=1[/QUOTE]

sicard
November 11th, 2010, 00:22
Pouvez-vous me dire comment se procurer ce panel et ou je pourrai le télécharger .

Acceptez mes amitiés

Patrick





Merci beaucoup monsieur Sicard pour votre soutient ! C'est un vrai honneur... Mais c'est grace à André que le Falcon 50 revole dans FSX. Vous pouvez suivre nos aventures en francais ici:
http://www.pilote-virtuel.com/viewtopic.php?id=17915&p=1[/QUOTE]

vonstroheim
November 11th, 2010, 06:40
Update: No EPR gauge in a Falcon! No wonder it didn't work. So I'm reworking the engine gauge setup. Philippe sent me today a nice Oil temperature/pressure combination, thanks!. Then I'll relocate the AP... and will take it for a spin!

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VSI is back where it is supposed to be...

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expat
November 11th, 2010, 14:28
Replaced the "Welcome" plaque on the forward right bulkhead with a likeness of an AirshoFlightView video screen, found on most of the larger corporate jets which provides flight tracking and video entertainment.

fsafranek
November 11th, 2010, 14:46
Vonstroheim and Expat, I like how you guys are both working on two panel styles. One more in keeping with the original and one modernized with some glass instrument upgrades. It's going to be really cool to have the option to fly one or the other, or both.

Was there ever a paint kit made for this aircraft?
:ernae:

expat
November 11th, 2010, 14:54
Thanks Frank. Yes there is a paint kit I believe on flightsim. Would be great if people with painting talent here did some further "continuation" paints of this one. Lots of more contemporary paint schemes of this aircraft on airliners.net.

n4gix
November 11th, 2010, 17:40
Replaced the "Welcome" plaque on the forward right bulkhead with a likeness of an AirshoFlightView video screen, found on most of the larger corporate jets which provides flight tracking and video entertainment.

Unless my memory has really slipped, there was a "gauge" in that space. If so, you could easily put a customized "moving map" display based on the default GPS... :wiggle:

N400QW
November 11th, 2010, 20:11
Shameless plagiarism :rolleyes:of an eight year old paint by Ron Hamilton (Ron, if you are out there, apologies for not seeking permission - but this 8 year old paint has held up well - thanks!!) of the Archer Daniels corporate jet. Have done a number or alternatives for my own use simply using - shamelessly as well - MS Paint.




<HR align=center SIZE=2 width=600>


<CENTER>FS2002 - FS2002 Aircraft </CENTER><CENTER>FS2002 Dassault Falcon 50


</CENTER><CENTER>[ Download (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=52928) | View (http://www.flightsim.com/zview.php?cm=list&fid=52928) ] </CENTER>
Name: n144ad.zip (http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=52928) Size: 1,514,111 Date: 08-04-2002 Downloads: 744
http://www.flightsim.com/h/n144ad.gif FS2002 Dassault Falcon 50 textures. By Ron Hamilton. (See also N144ADNT.ZIP (http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=N144ADNT.ZIP))




Is this the correct Alt/VSI config in the attached screenie below? I am fooling around with three different panel versions: analogue - like vonstrohiem's; fully digital a la Collins Pro line on the 50EX; and in between as per below, using F1 PC-12 EADI/EHSI.


<LEGEND>http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/misc/paperclip.png Attached Thumbnails</LEGEND>http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22601&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1288518808 (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22601&d=1288518808)


Ha ha, had just started repainting way back then and those old F50 repaints bring back memories.
Had a discussion w/Rob Young a few years back about Eaglesoft rebuilding that aircraft for FSX.
He was supportive of the idea then but we've had too much on our plates to get to it.

Who knows, maybe we'll get some time to at least start on it in 2011.:cost1:

expat
November 12th, 2010, 01:00
Unless my memory has really slipped, there was a "gauge" in that space. If so, you could easily put a customized "moving map" display based on the default GPS...

Went to bed last night thinking, "if only there could be a way to animiate it. ." and then read this!

What a great lead - thanks. Right, back into the workshop . .

expat
November 12th, 2010, 03:46
Hmmm. Don't see anything obvious in the gauge file. Can't see anything in the manual/docs that indicates this space can be manipulated, i.e. by a gauge. But there is something in the way the texture looks that it could be ..

vonstroheim
November 12th, 2010, 09:50
Added flaps and speed brake levers... and some autopilot knobs and switches in the console...

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No news from Fred Banting and Yannick Lavigne. God knows I'm trying hard to reach them! Rob Young did reply... Any tips? We might publish this panel anyway (almost ready) and add this note along with the files:

"Despite intensive research and best intentions, it was not possible to reach some rights holders of this aircraft. We ask holders of such rights who feel they have not been properly acknowledge to please contact us."

Do you think that should take care of the copyright issue? What else can be done? What are the real risks, if any?

n4gix
November 12th, 2010, 10:06
Hmmm. Don't see anything obvious in the gauge file. Can't see anything in the manual/docs that indicates this space can be manipulated, i.e. by a gauge. But there is something in the way the texture looks that it could be ..

Apparently my memory is more shot through with holes than I realized. I finally found my "Falcon 50" on one of my oldest "FS Machines" in my LAN and opened the panel.cfg file. There isn't anything there, as you've discovered.

Oh well, sorry for sending you on a wild goose chase! :ernae:

falcon409
November 12th, 2010, 11:48
. . . . ."Despite intensive research and best intentions, it was not possible to reach some rights holders of this aircraft. We ask holders of such rights who feel they have not been properly acknowledge to please contact us."

Do you think that should take care of the copyright issue? What else can be done? What are the real risks, if any?
Considering the longevity of this airplane, you'd have to consider that some of the original designers have either passed on or at least have left the Flight Sim community for other endeavors. You have made a gallant effort to contact everyone who participated in it's early release and so the disclaimer above should suffice on the off chance that someone will miraculously reappear after all these years the instant this is released (isn't that always the way it happens, lol).

fsafranek
November 13th, 2010, 11:13
Considering the longevity of this airplane, you'd have to consider that some of the original designers have either passed on or at least have left the Flight Sim community for other endeavors. You have made a gallant effort to contact everyone who participated in it's early release and so the disclaimer above should suffice on the off chance that someone will miraculously reappear after all these years the instant this is released (isn't that always the way it happens, lol).
I concur. As long as you...

1) acknowledge in the documentation the work of others that is included (and use only freeware items) and
2) don't make any money from it

... you are covered.

That was the base rule of the FreeFlightDesign Shop when I and a handful of others started it years ago -- always credit the original author and don't make any money from it.
:ernae:

vonstroheim
November 13th, 2010, 11:22
Fred Banting replied today! Thanks guys! One more left...

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Anybody has seen such an autopilot ? What are these knobs and switches do?
Mr Sicard, you might have an idea...

vonstroheim
November 14th, 2010, 08:00
Mr Lavigne replied at last, and gave us the ultimate green light for this panel fix. Thank you sir. So with Fred and Rob earlier approvals, we're ready to roll!

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So, where to upload a "beta" version so we can maybe adjust it a bit before a more final release? I've checked the add-on library section in SOH website, is this the way to go?

(This Aéronavale repaint is my own variation of the one made by Martial from frenchairforce.fr... Anybody interested in creating a brand new repaint?)

falcon409
November 14th, 2010, 08:21
. . . . .So, where to upload a "beta" version so we can maybe adjust it a bit before a more final release? I've checked the add-on library section in SOH website, is this the way to go?. . . . .
Yes, despite some inherent problems with the downloads area, it's still quicker I think than flightsim.com or Avsim. Also, will this upload be the entire airplane or just the panel beta? If it doesn't include the entire airplane, where can we download the aircraft as you show it in your pics?:salute:

OleBoy
November 14th, 2010, 08:28
I would, if at all possible, like the fact of downloading the whole package as one entity rather than having to mess with a recipe :ernae:

vonstroheim
November 14th, 2010, 09:12
Also, will this upload be the entire airplane or just the panel beta?

No, just the panel and panel textures made with the help of the André the real mastermind behind this trick, and the xml gauges made with the invaluable help of Philippe Wallaert...

simkid22
November 14th, 2010, 13:26
Anybody interested in creating a brand new repaint?

I think the least I could do to thank you for doing more than I ever imagined would be done to this plane is to do a repaint or two. :)

vonstroheim
November 14th, 2010, 19:38
I think the least I could do to thank you for doing more than I ever imagined would be done to this plane is to do a repaint or two. :)

Wow, thank you!

I'll upload the panel tomorrow in the Add-Ons library, hope I'll figure out how to do it!

fsafranek
November 14th, 2010, 22:53
Wow, thank you!

I'll upload the panel tomorrow in the Add-Ons library, hope I'll figure out how to do it!

And if anyone still needs the base aircraft you can get it via the red links at the bottom of the page linked to below. (At least visit their page first rather than linking directly from here to their server to download :salute:) It's a cumulative process. Start with the "Fal50c2.zip" base model. Add the "Fa50pch2.zip" fix pak. And finally the FS2004 update. And then the FSX panel updates.

http://www.virtualairforce.ch/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=67:swiss-virtual-airforce--falcon%2050&catid=42:swiss-virtual-airforce--aicrafts&Itemid=59

Outstanding work on all this vonstroheim!
:ernae:

vonstroheim
November 15th, 2010, 06:29
Thank you Frank, and thank you to all the people involved who helped me find the original authors (the hardest part!) and supported this modest project.

Here it is! Version 0.9 beta...
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39&linkid=2949

It' really no big deal, you should see the panel Isra have made from scratch for the F-5 Tiger and released last week after working on it 5 years!

Anyway, next step is polishing a bit the Falcon panel for a final release, and maybe some new repaints will materialize, and revised flight dynamics might be in the works...

ega
November 15th, 2010, 11:54
Thanks for the re-birth of this wonderful aircraft!

I installed it and works fine in FSX!

Many thanks to all involved in this project!

Regards

Edmundo

fsafranek
November 15th, 2010, 13:47
And if anyone still needs the base aircraft you can get it via the red links at the bottom of the page linked to below. (At least visit their page first rather than linking directly from here to their server to download) It's a cumulative process. Start with the "Fal50c2.zip" base model. Add the "Fa50pch2.zip" fix pak. And finally the FS2004 update. And then the FSX panel updates.
Just an addendum to my note above (can't seem to edit it to make the change) but the Falcon50_2k4.zip download gives you all you need before adding vonstroheim's v0.9 beta panel. You do not need to install the Fal50c2.zip" base model or the "Fa50pch2.zip fix pak.
:ernae:

falcon409
November 15th, 2010, 19:01
I am not normally a Business Jet or Tubeliner pilot, but your work on this panel has made me a fan of the Falcon50. It will be a permanent part of my active Hangar. Well Done!!:salute:

Daube
November 16th, 2010, 01:50
This plane will be a great addition to my FSX hangar, right next to the default Learjet (yes, I love it) and Alrot's Citation X.
Thanks a lot :ernae:

simkid22
November 16th, 2010, 11:42
Now I remember why I haven't finished my repaints this bird :isadizzy: I've got some Canadian Falcons in the works for vonstroheim too ;)

doublecool
November 16th, 2010, 16:34
What a great job you've done on the old falcon :applause::applause::applause:

Many Thanks vonstroheim Well done

Added smoke to her but its all out of wack smoke is not coming from engine isn;t there a fix about smoke and plus's and minus's

thunder100
November 17th, 2010, 01:13
23563235612356223564

So, where to upload a "beta" version so we can maybe adjust it a bit before a more final release? I've checked the add-on library section in SOH website, is this the way to go?



Hello

I have a bit of an VC issue

Admitedly I "modernize" the panel by using differen ATT and HSI-->just I have the issue that they show only when lights are off,once i turn on the original aguges reappear,although not in the panel .cfg

Anybody any idea about this

Best regards

Roland

expat
November 17th, 2010, 04:36
Added smoke to her but its all out of wack smoke is not coming from engine isn;t there a fix about smoke and plus's and minus's

You need to switch around the smoke coordinates in the air.cfg as with other FSX port overs. If you don't know how to do this I can post my cfg entries later.


I have the issue that they show only when lights are off,once i turn on the original aguges reappear,although not in the panel .cfg

Not 100% it's the same issue as yours, but there seems to have always been from the start a "known issue" - in my VC's (I have both analogue and digital) the gauges which I have myself added in the VC (by changing the panel.cfg entries) do NOT appear UNLESS I switch the interior lights on. Bit strange, but I have got used to it.

Is this the same or are you having the opposite problem - i.e. your add on gauges will only appear with the lights switched OFF?

vonstroheim
November 17th, 2010, 06:26
... they show only when lights are off...

In panel.cfg, you must copy all the changes made in [VCockpit01] section to the [VCockpit03] section. [VCockpit01] is intended for the day panel textures, [VCockpit03] is the night textures.

Same with [VCockpit02] and [VCockpit04], this is the right copilot side, day/night...

So it's just a matter of copy/paste the gauges lines from [VCockpit01] to [VCockpit03], and [VCockpit02] to [VCockpit04]. Hope this is clear enough... This is a very clever trick and I believe Fred Banting is the one who designed this part. And Lavigne made the four day/night & left/right textures I just recycled.

In the aircraft.cfg, you do have a "lights" section you can play with, but for other purposes (mostly light effects inside and outside the plane). My "lights" section is like this. You might have some differences, depending on which Falcon you found online or in your archives...

[LIGHTS]
light.0 = 3, -7.7, -31.2, -2.1, fx_navred
light.1 = 3, -7.7, 31.2, -2.1, fx_navgre
light.2 = 2, -8, 31.4, -2.1, fx_strobe
light.3 = 2, -8, -31.4, -2.1, fx_strobe
light.4 = 1, -25.2, 0.00, 17.7, fx_beaconh
light.5 = 3, -24.2, 0.00, 8.37, fx_navwhih
light.6 = 2, 4.61, 0.00, -3.62, fx_beaconb
light.7 = 5, 11.45, -2.10, -2.50, fx_landing
light.8 = 5, 11.45, 2.10, -2.50, fx_landing
light.9 = 4, 24.50, 1.80, 2.55, fx_vclight_f50
light.10= 4, 24.50, -1.80, 2.55, fx_vclight_f50
light.11= 4, 19.00, -0.30, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.12= 4, 14.00, -0.00, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.13= 4, 10.00, -0.00, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.14= 4, 6.00, -0.00, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.15= 4, 0.80, -0.00, 1.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.16= 4, 22.90, -0.70, 2.7, fx_vclight_f50

vonstroheim
November 17th, 2010, 07:35
...smoke is not coming from engine...

Well I'm not too sure how to fix this, but this is an aircraft.cfg issue and it might also be related to a xml gauge in the panel, not included in my version. But I have to backtrack a bit about the history of this plane:

The fs2000 version was upgraded to fs2002 by the original authors. So far so good. For the fs9 migration around 2004, the gmax files were handed over to some people, like n4gix (read his earlier posts in this thread) and also to Eric Dantès a french guy who finalized the fs9 version and made it available via the FranceVFR web site. This version is really very nice, Eric added most of the animations and all the goodies around the plane (the famous red carpet is his signature, try it yourself: stop the engine, open the door and turn the lights on). FranceVFR decided to scrap their freeware section because of too much abuse, and now they sell wonderful VFR scenery covering all of France and parts of Europe as well (they have planes and AI too). And Eric's version unfortunatly became harder and harder to find, and his name is almost never mentioned, it's a pity. Not sure this story is 100% acurate, but I'm afraid the real story might even be darker...

Martyn Becker is a famous german simmer, and he did some work with the lights and the smoke effects for this plane and other ones as well. Some versions of the Falcon 50 still floating around the web have a different aircraft.cfg file, and I suppose these are the one updated by Martyn: There is a smoke_effekt xml gauge in the panel (only in the 2d panel). I think it still works, and you have additionnal fx files to go along, but you'll have to monkey around by yourself depending on the version you have... I'd like to see how expat moved the smoke back to where is it supposed to be!

expat
November 17th, 2010, 11:13
This should sort you out. You need to juxtapose two of the three x,y,z coordinates (can never remember which two) for the settings in FS9 to work correctly in FSX. Otherwise the smoke appears at 90 degress to how it should: -


[SMOKESYSTEM]
smoke.0=-33.00, -8.50, 1.00, fx_eng_exhaust_gry//
smoke.1=-36.00, 0.00, 1.00, fx_eng_exhaust_gry//
smoke.2=-33.00, 8.50, 1.00, fx_eng_exhaust_gry//

Ludovic,

Thanks for the pointer on the VC panel.cfg entries - off to sort out my digital panel.

expat
November 17th, 2010, 11:15
Sorry - to be clear - just cut and paste the entries above as they are into your air.cfg over your old entries (or comment out if you want to save). You don't need to do anything further.

thunder100
November 17th, 2010, 11:40
In panel.cfg, you must copy all the changes made in [VCockpit01] section to the [VCockpit03] section. [VCockpit01] is intended for the day panel textures, [VCockpit03] is the night textures.

Same with [VCockpit02] and [VCockpit04], this is the right copilot side, day/night...

So it's just a matter of copy/paste the gauges lines from [VCockpit01] to [VCockpit03], and [VCockpit02] to [VCockpit04]. Hope this is clear enough... This is a very clever trick and I believe Fred Banting is the one who designed this part. And Lavigne made the four day/night & left/right textures I just recycled.

In the aircraft.cfg, you do have a "lights" section you can play with, but for other purposes (mostly light effects inside and outside the plane). My "lights" section is like this. You might have some differences, depending on which Falcon you found online or in your archives...

[LIGHTS]
light.0 = 3, -7.7, -31.2, -2.1, fx_navred
light.1 = 3, -7.7, 31.2, -2.1, fx_navgre
light.2 = 2, -8, 31.4, -2.1, fx_strobe
light.3 = 2, -8, -31.4, -2.1, fx_strobe
light.4 = 1, -25.2, 0.00, 17.7, fx_beaconh
light.5 = 3, -24.2, 0.00, 8.37, fx_navwhih
light.6 = 2, 4.61, 0.00, -3.62, fx_beaconb
light.7 = 5, 11.45, -2.10, -2.50, fx_landing
light.8 = 5, 11.45, 2.10, -2.50, fx_landing
light.9 = 4, 24.50, 1.80, 2.55, fx_vclight_f50
light.10= 4, 24.50, -1.80, 2.55, fx_vclight_f50
light.11= 4, 19.00, -0.30, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.12= 4, 14.00, -0.00, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.13= 4, 10.00, -0.00, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.14= 4, 6.00, -0.00, 2.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.15= 4, 0.80, -0.00, 1.05, fx_vclight_f50
light.16= 4, 22.90, -0.70, 2.7, fx_vclight_f50

Thanks got it in the meanwhile-->did not thimk about that-->but as often quoted-->it comes a long way

And still is very nice

Roland

expat
November 18th, 2010, 06:10
Would be wonderful to have an alterntive interior to the dark brown leather e..g with ligher, cream colored leather like this:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50/0209266/L/&sid=e2e55a5ed6d14045033a842bee0f42a8 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50/0209266/L/&sid=e2e55a5ed6d14045033a842bee0f42a8)

For exterior paint schemes here are a few ideas:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(Solid-Air)/Dassault-Falcon-50EX/1707080/&sid=9175a2e45121396b1dd496f49f2bc5c4

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50EX/1654877/L/&sid=9175a2e45121396b1dd496f49f2bc5c4

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50EX/1251988/&sid=c9ae4762f008b70da09b1ade1181aaf0

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(Global-Jet/Dassault-Falcon-50EX/1447106/&sid=c9b3825a6e34add44b91c6dd2427cdd5

vonstroheim
November 21st, 2010, 20:54
G'day everybody. Small update to fix the autopilot and add some switches in the overhead. No big deal but more usable. It's here:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39&linkid=2949

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Thanks for the good feedback! So far it's pretty encouraging. Even Fred Banting said he liked it... Thank you Fred.

PS: I've included my aircraft.cfg file for those who have trouble flying the plane. Seems to me the version they have at the swiss virtualairforce web site is a bit wrong in the flight dynamics department. The version I have is the official one from the Eric Dantès upgrade back in 2005. It works just fine. Merci Eric.

expat
November 23rd, 2010, 04:33
Thanks for this update. Nice to have the additional Overhead Panel switches working now!

vonstroheim
November 23rd, 2010, 15:49
In case you're looking for it:

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"FS2002 Blank PSD Textures For Falcon 50 by Danie Delport" - blfal50.zip file at flightsim.com

vonstroheim
November 26th, 2010, 13:28
Small update to the panel: missing gauges added, autopilot fixed, anti-ice switches added, start engine switch fixed (Lee is going to like that: you can start each engine separatly, beginning with engine 2, just like in the real life... but don't forget to switch off the start buttons when N1 reaches 20% or more...)

New link to add-ons library:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39&linkid=2986

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What next: rudder/aileron trim switches, maybe more switches in the overhead panel, etc...

vonstroheim
December 2nd, 2010, 06:24
This thread is pretty quiet but don't worry I didn't gave up! This last trim gauge is a real headache... but in a fews days I'll upload the final public package at Simviation...

So far feedback was very good and very helpful. The panel was downloaded 161 times, that's great for a limited beta version!
Link to the add-ons library: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39&linkid=2986

Some simmers sent me some nice screenshots of their favourite location with the Falcon, I enjoy that a lot. Here is a flight from NTTR to NTTB in French Polynesia:

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A guy even made some serious test flights and recorded fuel consumption and such things, and so far everything is ok! More news very soon...

doublecool
December 2nd, 2010, 16:30
Just been watchin and waiting :wiggle:

vonstroheim
December 3rd, 2010, 07:46
Again a new update to the panel today: trim gauge ready (but still a bit crude) and various small fixes. This is going to be very close to the final release, unless you guys tell me something is quite wrong... It's a small zip file, you should install it anyway:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39&linkid=2986


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What's new: autopilot relocated next to ADI (the complete autopilot panel is in the console, like in the real thing). Functionnal trim gauge next to speed brake handle and flaps lever. Added some radio gauges (ADF, ATC). One autostart engine (orange) switch and 3 individual (white) start engine switches in the overhead panel.

Temple Inland Forest N77TE repaint by Brad Baker (fsdome.com).
FSX New Caledonia scenery by Marc-Henri Guitteny (marcoh.gratisim.fr).

sorry: bug in the 4:3 panel.cfg (fixed now). It should read:
[Window00]
file=panel.bmp
size_mm=1024,768

doublecool
December 3rd, 2010, 16:01
Just a Question but the interior lights put the pilot & co pilot in the cockpit now they do no show unless the throddle is half :wiggle:

vonstroheim
December 3rd, 2010, 16:50
Mmmm that's very strange... Mine is working ok when I use the "L" key (all lights on), but with the individual light switches in the overhead, pilots don't show, that's indeed a bug, I'll see what I can do... Sorry... That's what beta releases are for! Thanks to the courageous test pilots!

Edit: I've attached the event "ALL_LIGHTS_TOGGLE" to the cabin (interior) light switch, and now the crew appears with the flick of a switch... I don't think this has something to do with the throttle position... Maybe during a long flight, the day turned into the twilight, and since the lights are programmed to turn on automatically, the crew popped into position from nowhere... Typical X-file effect I would say... or Twilight Zone... Dangerous game for sure!

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New switch in next release...

vonstroheim
December 4th, 2010, 06:00
I think I know why your plane crew is acting funky. You might be using Martin Becker smoke system gauge, or a similar smoke trick (Nick's Smoke maybe) and these xml gauges do trigger lights based on throttle position... So disable or fix these gauges. Or use my aircraft.cfg file, which is very close to the original one, without smoke effects and with proper flight dynamics.

vonstroheim
December 4th, 2010, 16:28
Ive just uploaded what I believe is the last beta version of the panel...
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39&linkid=2986

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Guess it's time to let it fly, and stop tweaking it again and again... Enjoy!

doublecool
December 5th, 2010, 12:35
Very nice work you've done :salute: here

Thank you

expat
December 6th, 2010, 03:23
Very nice work you've done :salute: here

Thank you

Really want to second that. This is a great update and very much appreciated. Probably too late now but should have recommended this one as a "sticky" so more would notice what has been achieved.

expat
December 6th, 2010, 03:25
. . also hope to see some of the talented artists doing some contemporary repaints, particularly with the painkit available and posted in this thread . . :jump:

vonstroheim
December 8th, 2010, 06:21
News update: Don "fxsttcb" Bodenstedt , a retired "Instrumentation and Controls Eng'r" with a background in airborne weapons control radar and avionics is joining the team, and his work on the overhead and other instruments is simply too good to pass!

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So in a few days we'll be able to post a new version (again) with all these goodies... maybe for x-mas? But there is no dealine remember... no need to hurry, and no boss to complain!

The next (and last, I hope) logical step would be to publish the complete Falcon 50 FSX package... It's not as easy as it looks like, if you want to do it the right way, and without "stepping on any toes"... Hope a new repaint will pop up from somewhere too!

vonstroheim
December 11th, 2010, 13:59
While waiting for Don to polish the overhead panel, I toyed around with this F50FSX repaint, loosely inspired by the John Woodside's JHB Airlines theme...

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I'd love to see more repaints popping out in this thread... Not so hard!

The panel is looking like this so far...

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fxsttcb
December 11th, 2010, 16:03
Very Nice!
I'm worth diddly with re-painting. I have the paint kit, but, no idea how to put that jigsaw puzzle together so I can paint the side, then copy/paste the sections where they belong.
Fus1 also looks to be a different scale than the rest.

Anybody wanna tackle the inspiration for my Falcon?
It's a Celebrate Life Foundation plane, with the Cancer Treatment Centers of America Logo on the Vert stab...Don

N550CL Snowy KCLE (http://www.opshots.net/gallery2/index.php?page=photos&id=7623)
N550CL Airborne KSJC (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50/1264795/L/&sid=a9c6a6093bee3b5cf0af7478db1de3da)
N550CL Taxiing TJIG (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50/1689158/L/&sid=a9c6a6093bee3b5cf0af7478db1de3da)
N505CL at KAPF (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50/1418591/L/&sid=07e19c1062cf274fc56619b2a6a85e63)

Send me a copy of F50FSX?

expat
December 13th, 2010, 03:00
I toyed around with this F50FSX repaint

Nice paint!

I also posted some suggestions/requests earlier in this thread:



Painters WANTED!!!

Would be wonderful to have an alterntive interior to the dark brown leather e..g with ligher, cream colored leather like this:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50/0209266/L/&sid=e2e55a5ed6d14045033a842bee0f42a8 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50/0209266/L/&sid=e2e55a5ed6d14045033a842bee0f42a8)

For exterior paint schemes here are a few ideas:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untit...d496f49f2bc5c4 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(Solid-Air)/Dassault-Falcon-50EX/1707080/&sid=9175a2e45121396b1dd496f49f2bc5c4)

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassa...d496f49f2bc5c4 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50EX/1654877/L/&sid=9175a2e45121396b1dd496f49f2bc5c4)

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassa...9b1ade1181aaf0 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault-Falcon-50EX/1251988/&sid=c9ae4762f008b70da09b1ade1181aaf0)

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untit...91c6dd2427cdd5 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(Global-Jet/Dassault-Falcon-50EX/1447106/&sid=c9b3825a6e34add44b91c6dd2427cdd5)

vonstroheim
December 13th, 2010, 14:23
Uploaded another update to the Falcon 50 FSX panel:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39&linkid=2986

Don reworked the overhead panel and it is as good and complete as an overhead can be! New too in this release is an autopilot popup window similar to the original fs2002 version, Don's contribution too. "aircraft.cfg" file is updated a bit ("autopilot" and "electrical" sections).

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I understand you guys are fed up with so many little updates, each time a pain to install if you have tweaked your version and changed some gauges... but I believe it's better this way, it's a Work in Progress for real, you can input ideas and comments along the way, and it's also a trick to keep your interest alive!

fxsttcb
December 14th, 2010, 09:07
I made a big OOPS!
I sent the next to last generation of the overhead background bitmap, DUH!
On the one I sent, when the Bleed Air Control Switch is set to "Off" a little red light appears out of nowhere above the switch. I just knew I would forget to update my "updates to send" folder correctly!

My apologies. The correct bitmap is on it's way...Don

vonstroheim
December 14th, 2010, 10:40
The correct bitmap is on it's way...Don

Got it. Will update the panel and post it later this evening.

Edit: 0.9.7 update available... with Don's correct overhead bitmap, new VSI and Airspeed gauge...

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Coming soon: option to have the Collins digital ADI instead of the analog one... Dut no, don't ask, no glass cockpit! Not yet!

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Hope you heard about the "$5 a plane "promotion at Iris Simulation...

vonstroheim
December 15th, 2010, 11:25
More repaints (French Aéronavale)...

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More panel updates (Collins digital PFD)...

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Update 0.9.8 ready here:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39

Final panel ready for x-mas?

expat
December 16th, 2010, 03:02
Another nice repaint! Panel looking good, though I am going to wait for one month before I know it is safe to merge these updates!

vonstroheim
December 22nd, 2010, 11:54
News update: The Eric Dantès's "Falcon 50 for FS9" is back online. The official version had disappeared years ago. Thanks to Eric who heard me cry, and thanks to Gilles from Aquitaine Simulation, a copy of the real thing is available in the "téléchargements" section here:
http://aquitaine.simulation.free.fr/

So the final version of the FSX panel will soon have a new home too! In the meantime the beta version is [/URL]upgraded to 0.9.9 here:
[url]http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39 (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39)

Repaints are harder than expected! Looks nice from the distance, but a real shame close-up... Could use some help here... Simkid22 are you around?

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simkid22
December 23rd, 2010, 13:03
I was in the process of fixing the up close problems before finals and the holidays got in the way, I fixed the emergency exits and was working on the door, that is a bigger challenge than the exits, When those are done I'll try to release a paint kit with the updated base stuff. A lot of the other little things that come up are usually repaint specific *sigh* yay mapping :isadizzy:

vonstroheim
December 23rd, 2010, 15:42
...I'll try to release a paint kit with the updated base stuff...

Yes that will be much helpful!

So this is it, the last chapter has arrived. The Falcon 50 FSX panel 1.0 was officialy released today 23rd December, just in time for Christmas! It's hosted by Aquitaine Simulation, a french association near Bordeaux, close to the real Dassault factory. They host also the official complete FS9 version, so no need to hunt down the kit in various shady places:
http://aquitaine.simulation.free.fr ("téléchargements" link)

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This panel version 1.0 is exactly the same as the 0.9.9 posted here. I'll keep it there for you, don't worry, and update it if necessary.
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39

This is an excerpt of the readme file, it says it all: "A big "thank you sir" to Yannick Lavigne, Fred Banting and Rob Young who approved the distribution of this panel. Thank you also to Eric Dantès, without his FS9 version of the Falcon 50, we wouldn't be here. Philippe Wallaert made a wonderful contribution with all the new XML gauges. Don "fxsttcb" Bodenstedt was kind enough to give me his overhead panel and his avionics expertise. André "esmdu" from pilote-virtuel.com is the genius behind all this, thanks to him the virtual cockpit shows properly in FSX. And many thanks to Gilles from Aquitaine Simulation for the web hosting. "

And thanks to the S.O.H.community for support and advice. Merry Christmas!
Ludovic "vonstroheim"

expat
December 24th, 2010, 01:55
Great work & congratulations on seeing this project through. Hope many (re)discover and enjoy this aircraft as much as I do.


So this is it, the last chapter has arrived.

. . . am still wary there will be more . . :d

fxsttcb
December 24th, 2010, 06:52
Great work & congratulations on seeing this project through. Hope many (re)discover and enjoy this aircraft as much as I do.



. . . am still wary there will be more . . :d
Thanks for the Kudos.
Your wariness might have been warranted earlier! Ha-Ha!

Though the release version differs slightly from my personal version, you can rest assured it works Great!
I've made at least a half dozen complete VFR and IFR flights with it(more with my own) and haven't felt the need to tweak. That from an avid(read addicted) tweaker, who can't keep his mitts off of anything!
Of course that doesn't mean that it won't be updated if someone comes across a glaring error that our myopia has overlooked.
Besides, if you don't like it, you can always hit the delete key! I doubt very seriously that will happen. So far, there hasn't been any negative feedback here.

The only thing that could be added is a Weather RADAR IF one of us can create one that has a modicum of reality. More than likely a seperate .zip anyhow.

I started some research on the Dassault factory Glass Cockpit(EX) to get an idea of what the actual instrumentation is. I also looked at lots of privately updated versions too.

Maybe you folks can provide some links and let us know what your idea of a Glass Cockpit should be...No Promises...Too early to decide anyhoo!

Enjoy!

Happy Holidays to all!

Don

I just got an early Xmas present from Ludovic, a Celebrate Life Foundation paint!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

vonstroheim
December 24th, 2010, 08:23
The only thing that could be added is a Weather RADAR...

If you can afford it, the Reality XP Simulation WX-500 looks cool... and period correct for this Falcon (reality-xp.com).

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To fill the void in the panel, I choose to package in the panel the fake weather radar by Philippe Wallaert. Cute and turned-off by default (click on the screen to turn it on). I also use the "hsi-gps-map" I found in the freeware Iris Tornado F3... Couldn't include it in the panel, but it's an easy swap (irisfss.com).

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The fs2x_WAAS GPS Navigation System version 2.0 by Don Kuhn is very nice too (fs2x.com).

Yes we'll definitly work on a Falcon 50EX in 2011! And more repaints, inside and out... to keep you happy (yes we heard you Lee!)

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fxsttcb
December 25th, 2010, 05:22
Merry Christmas!

vonstroheim
December 28th, 2010, 15:45
Another X-Mas present: The complete Dassault Falcon 50 FSX package is available at Aquitaine Simulation. No need to fiddle around with various Windows Vista issues or the nice but tricky FS9 installer! It's here in one easy zip archive, ready to fly in FSX, just two or three clicks away:
[/URL][URL]http://aquitaine.simulation.free.fr/ (http://aquitaine.simulation.free.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=39&Itemid=85) (in the "téléchargements" section)

They also have the FS9 version, for you FS2004 addicts: I was still using FS2004 a few months ago, and I was so sad to loose the Falcon 50 when I switched to FSX, that's why I decided to port-over this bird, and with a small dream team of dedicated simmers, we did it!

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fxsttcb
December 29th, 2010, 05:08
Good Job! :salute:
One question. What happened to the panel download at Aquitaine?
For the folks that have been following along and already have the plane, the latest panel version(Version 1.0 updated December 28, 2010) is still available here at SOH...Don
Latest Falcon 50 Panel Update (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39)

delta_lima
December 29th, 2010, 11:09
Many thanks to Merrs VonS, Expat, and all the team. this was hands down my favourite bird in FS8 ... lost track of it in FS9 ... now my favourite executive aircraft of FSX. Nostalgia with an update - magnificent!

dl

vonstroheim
January 4th, 2011, 06:49
Happy New Year !

Was a bit lazy lately... Did found some time for a new repaint, a "Canadian Forces" fictitious livery based on the real Bombardier Challengers from the Trenton CFB, for you DL... Not ready yet! (red tips missing on wings and tail)... There is room on the no 2 engine for some marking, should I move "Canada" up here?

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And what is the policy about publishing repaints? I don't want to disturb anymore the original creators, I was a bit pushy with this fsx panel affair... and these mediocre attempts at repaints are really not in the same category... are they?

delta_lima
January 4th, 2011, 22:57
Yeehaw!!! - I'm loving it.

Yes, the Canada looks a bit hemmed in over the windows. The Challenger, being tall, and with the windows placed further down, had more room. My vote is your suggestion of moving the Canada logo onto the engine(s). So long as there has been a way of fixing the reversed texture thing - my French Marine texture is like that. Not that it's the end of the world by any stretch.

Many thanks!

dl



Happy New Year !

Was a bit lazy lately... Did found some time for a new repaint, a "Canadian Forces" fictitious livery based on the real Bombardier Challengers from the Trenton CFB, for you DL... Not ready yet! (red tips missing on wings and tail)... There is room on the no 2 engine for some marking, should I move "Canada" up here?

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And what is the policy about publishing repaints? I don't want to disturb anymore the original creators, I was a bit pushy with this fsx panel affair... and these mediocre attempts at repaints are really not in the same category... are they?

fxsttcb
January 6th, 2011, 05:06
Did found some time for a new repaint, a "Canadian Forces" fictitious livery based on the real Bombardier Challengers from the Trenton CFB, for you DL... Not ready yet! (red tips missing on wings and tail)... There is room on the no 2 engine for some marking, should I move "Canada" up here? I think you have one super start on the paint! Looks real good now! I want one when completed...


And what is the policy about publishing repaints? I don't want to disturb anymore the original creators, I was a bit pushy with this fsx panel affair... and these mediocre attempts at repaints are really not in the same category... are they?As far as a re-paint goes, unless you are doing something stupid, like only changing the numbers and calling it your own, you are creating an original work. As an original work, you have a full copyright of your own, and can distribute it at your discretion without any permission needed.
Because some folks will take issue when you include original, un-modified, textures(for easy installation) it is better to just include a texture.cfg with the fallbacks.

Have a Great Day!...Don

vonstroheim
January 7th, 2011, 08:12
Yes, the Canada looks a bit hemmed in over the windows...

After a few updates, the Canadian Force repaint looks like this so far...

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My fictitious French Marine repaint was easier...

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The engines 1 & 3, the wings and the nose cone have this "mirror" effect... So markings are hard or impossible there... A little trick is to use "palindrome" words or numbers like 88 or 101, which can be read in either directions...

CG_1976
January 7th, 2011, 09:09
Canadian Forces paint:salute: Thank You from this Vampire in Chilly Yellowknife.

fsafranek
January 7th, 2011, 10:08
After a few updates, the Canadian Force repaint looks like this so far...

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The engines 1 & 3, the wings and the nose cone have this "mirror" effect... So markings are hard or impossible there... A little trick is to use "palindrome" words or numbers like 88 or 101, which can be read in either directions...
Yea, texturing shortcuts were normal back in the old days but with the nearly unlimited resources of FS2004/FSX there's really no reason anymore.

The Canadian bird looks much better with the "Canada" on the intake. Please advise when available.
:ernae:

delta_lima
January 7th, 2011, 16:28
Awesome! Moving Canada to #2 engine was the wise choice. Looks fantastic, mate and many many thanks!

dl

falgul
January 10th, 2011, 09:55
I want to express my gratitude, and congratulations to vonstroheim for great Job for the Falcon 50, I love this aircraft as well the Falcon 7x which I hope see it soon for FSX... Thanks

I am new here and love it...
Thanks..

vonstroheim
January 10th, 2011, 10:24
I've uploaded here in the addons library the "Canadian Forces / Forces canadiennes" repaint. It's not exactly similar to the real CF livery, but close enough (no red on wing tips, try yourself and if you get it right, I'll be happy to update the zip file!):
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39

The model for this repaint is the real Bombarder Challengers from the Trenton CFB. Daniel "delta_lima" sent me the pictures, and I think this canadian repaint was appropriate. After all I live here, and I believe Fred Banting, one of the original creator of the Falcon 50, is a canadian too.

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I'm not sure the people from Quebec City are going to like this 2nd picture, but I'll post it anyway, and will assume the terrible consequences...

"Québec City v2.00" scenery by Jean St-Cyr, Gilles Boily, Gilles Gauthier and Jean-Pierre Fillion (O.K.A.D. (http://www.okad.ca/cvq/scenes.php#villes))

txnetcop
January 10th, 2011, 12:18
Excellent paint!!! Thank you
Ted

delta_lima
January 10th, 2011, 18:07
Von - what can I say ... you're awesome!

The paint looks fabulous ... happy with it as is. Great shots too ... brings back memories of taking leave days from CFB Valcartier to visit old Quebec ... :)

Many many thanks!

dl



I've uploaded here in the addons library the "Canadian Forces / Forces canadiennes" repaint. It's not exactly similar to the real CF livery, but close enough (no red on wing tips, try yourself and if you get it right, I'll be happy to update the zip file!):
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=39

The model for this repaint is the real Bombarder Challengers from the Trenton CFB. Daniel "delta_lima" sent me the pictures, and I think this canadian repaint was appropriate. After all I live here, and I believe Fred Banting, one of the original creator of the Falcon 50, is a canadian too.

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I'm not sure the people from Quebec City are going to like this 2nd picture, but I'll post it anyway, and will assume the terrible consequences...

"Québec City v2.00" scenery by Jean St-Cyr, Gilles Boily, Gilles Gauthier and Jean-Pierre Fillion (O.K.A.D. (http://www.okad.ca/cvq/scenes.php#villes))

Socata850
August 15th, 2011, 07:20
Hello Falcon lovers!

I can attribute the return of my love for the Falcon 50 to this thread, I always enjoyed flying the aircraft and had completely forgotten about her until I stumbled upon this thread.

As a thanks, I'd like to share my retrofit for the 2D, and VC with the ISG v1.8 Gauge Pack.

The aircraft is now VNAV/LNAV capable, includes the EADI/EHSI package... and a Smith's FMS to top it off.

Hope you all enjoy, and thanks to those who made this possible.


Download Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?8z5kehtzso065oq


Here are a few photo's...

http://i56.tinypic.com/fw3gr6.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/hs9bty.jpg

fsafranek
August 16th, 2011, 09:44
Thanks for making this available Joseph. Just FYI folks, this ISG refit does require the payware ISG v1.8 gauge set available from www.isgsim.com (http://www.isgsim.com). Looks great!
:ernae:

Socata850
August 16th, 2011, 09:51
No worries, I just hope everyone has as much fun flying the ol' gal as I do... she's a fine piece of work!



-Joseph

falgul
September 5th, 2011, 08:58
Thanks so much... looks great..

falgul
September 6th, 2011, 13:59
Socata850

Sorry for this question... but Could you explain to me how to incorporated this file into the aircraft.cfg.." 2. Extract FA50.cfg to your ISG\Aircraft directory found in the main FSX folder.
in your read instruction.. I got the first part but explaint to me this one please and thanks..

aacm

Socata850
September 9th, 2011, 23:32
Socata850

Sorry for this question... but Could you explain to me how to incorporated this file into the aircraft.cfg.." 2. Extract FA50.cfg to your ISG\Aircraft directory found in the main FSX folder.
in your read instruction.. I got the first part but explaint to me this one please and thanks..

aacm


Sorry for the late reply, was away for a few days...

The FA50.cfg is a configuration file specific to the Falcon 50's FMS...

You just need to simply put the FA50.cfg file in to the

"ISG\Aircraft" folder


Mine is located as such:

C:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\ISG\Aircraft

falgul
September 13th, 2011, 05:59
I am Sorry Socata850 I don't have this file I have c:\Program files\microsoft games\microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes..
I can't find what you express ISG\airplane..
Or I missing something here... thanks in advance...

AACM

P.S.
What is ISG

fsafranek
September 13th, 2011, 16:22
P.S.
What is ISG
ISG is "Integrated Simavionics", addon payware gauges for FS9/FSX.
http://www.isgsim.com/

falgul
September 14th, 2011, 16:52
Thanks... so I need to purchase this... I understand.. thanks for your answer ...

fsafranek
November 7th, 2011, 12:51
Spotted this over at Simviation.com this morning:

Reworked and Added Views for the Dassault Falcon 50 (http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=Reworked+and+Added+Views+for+the+Dassault +Falcon+50+&categoryId=)

Original views reworked and additional views ( defined by camera definitions in the aircraft.cfg file ) for the beautiful Dassault Falcon 50. Original FS9 model by Eric Dantès, updated for FSX by Yannick Lavigne, Fred Banting, Rob Young and André "esmdu" and Ludovic "vonstroheim" for the panel. 8 cameras pointing at the aircraft and a total of 5 views in the 3D cockpit. By Marc Renaud.

vonstroheim
November 8th, 2011, 09:30
Thanks Frank

The Lavigne/Banting/Young/Dantes/Vonstroheim Falcon 50 FSX full package v 1.1 appeared recently at Simviation and Avsimrus without my knowledge. It's ok with me because it's a real freeware aircraft and quite an old project. So no need to be offended. On the contrary, it appears more people are enjoying it! It's in the top 3 so far at Simviation...
http://simviation.com/1/download-stats?last=90

At avsimrus they deleted the readme file and the credits (except in the panel.cfg file), that is quite wrong. Maybe I should have provided a russian translation. But I use avsimrus a lot, how can I be really mad at them? I'm in their FSX file library alongside a Tu-154M... cool...
http://www.avsimrus.com/f/fsx-aircrafts-79/

Postbaer61
October 16th, 2016, 15:50
Hi folks,

sorry for warm up an very old thread,

but i have converted Yannick Lavignes Dassault Falcon50 to FSX native version,
with FS Developers ModelConverter X.
The F50 works great and looks pretty good.

I like to share my work with interested flightsimmers.
But i can not reach Yannick Lavigne to ask for permission.

I'm not a native english or french speaker, so any help to do this is welcome.
My last english lesson is forty years ago and google translator is my friend ;-)

i think i need permission from
Yannick Lavigne, Fred Banting, Rob Young ,
Eric Dantès who build the FS2004 version
and André "esmdu" ,"expat", Ludovic "vonstroheim" who has build Version 1.1
which i use for this project.

I would like to respect the copyrights and want give all credits to the original
authors and involved persons.

what do you think about that ?

Best regards

Bluebear

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/17/ScreenShot10-15-16at03.00AM.jpg

Navy Chief
October 16th, 2016, 18:04
Good luck, Bluebear. You obviously have done a lot of work. I hope you are successful in contacting people and obtaining permission! NC:encouragement:

vonstroheim
October 16th, 2016, 19:02
That is great news!
I'll dig into my archives for Lavigne, Fred and Rob emails, and I'll help you with this copyright issue...

Daube
October 17th, 2016, 00:09
Some of these names are well known members of the French forum Pilote-Virtuel.com.
I have created a topic over there to catch their attention :)

Postbaer61
October 17th, 2016, 02:08
I am very glad for your help. :jump:
Thank you, Navy chief, Vonstroheim and Daube for his topic in the
Pilote virtuel forum. :encouragement:
I will prepare the package before.
And yes, it took some sleepless nights with trial and error
to do that. :dizzy:

Bluebear

ce_zeta
October 17th, 2016, 02:28
Fantastic photo Bluebear. Can you post a few more photos please?

expat
October 17th, 2016, 05:19
One of my all time favorites - great news on the native conversion!

http://s11.postimg.org/l0rydq9kz/dassault.jpg

DaveB
October 17th, 2016, 06:11
Shouldn't there be at least one pilot 'up front'?:very_drunk:

ATB
DaveB:)

expat
October 17th, 2016, 06:36
No, I am in the back socialising (AP mode):untroubled:

Navy Chief
October 17th, 2016, 06:40
No, I am in the back socialising (AP mode):untroubled:

:biggrin-new::ernaehrung004:

Postbaer61
October 17th, 2016, 08:59
As ce_zeta desired, here still a few more shots .

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/18/ScreenShot10-11-16at01.43AM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/18/ScreenShot10-11-16at01.39AM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/18/ScreenShot10-11-16at01.36AM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/18/ScreenShot10-11-16at02.10AM.jpg

Bjoern
October 17th, 2016, 09:05
Wow, the cockpit and cabin still look really good. You have to look twice to see that this is a 10+ year old model.

Postbaer61
October 18th, 2016, 05:03
Hello Bjoern,

In fact, the lady looks very good for age
and it is a great pleasure to fly her.
The inner textures could be rejuvenation,
They are a little blurry,but that does not really disturb .
I've tried to improve them, but without good results.
Perhaps some texture artist can do this.
I know there are some really good ones.
i imagine, how good she would look with spec and bump
textures. http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/icons/icon27.gif

ce_zeta
October 18th, 2016, 05:14
Wow!! Superb Bluebear!

Your lifting is a miracle.

Marvelous work. I hope that you can contact with the original developers and release this gem. :applause:

Bjoern
October 18th, 2016, 11:07
Hello Bjoern,

In fact, the lady looks very good for age
and it is a great pleasure to fly her.
The inner textures could be rejuvenation,
They are a little blurry,but that does not really disturb .
I've tried to improve them, but without good results.
Perhaps some texture artist can do this.
I know there are some really good ones.
i imagine, how good she would look with spec and bump
textures. http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/icons/icon27.gif

Keep in mind that before anyone can add spec and bump maps, they'll need to be enabled in the model's materials.

Postbaer61
October 18th, 2016, 14:42
This should be no problem with the material editor by MCX :mixed-smiley-010:

Daube
October 19th, 2016, 04:47
That's the magic of a good texturing coupled with photorealistic textures. They keep looking good for ages.
I mean, look at the Mirage F-1 by Kirk Olsson. It was made for FS2002 perhaps ? And it still looks awesome today, including the virtual cockpit. (ok, there's nothing clickable, yes... but still, it looks so nice...)

Postbaer61
October 19th, 2016, 05:26
indeed,
with today's possibilities you can push up the look of an old airplane up to date .
Some exterior repaints look okay,
Only the interior textures must probably rebuild from scratch.
I have unfortunately no experience in creating textures, spec or bump maps.
at first I had to get involved in the topic. :dizzy:
this great plane would it be worth . http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/icons/icon7.png

ryanbatc
October 19th, 2016, 06:38
Flysimware is doing a Falcon 50!

I too installed this ole FA50 but had some issue with the VC clockspits not working right

gaab
October 19th, 2016, 07:32
indeed,
with today's possibilities you can push up the look of an old airplane up to date .
Some exterior repaints look okay,


There was a texturing problem with the original model.

Both motors are using the SAME paintkit "area" thus prohibiting any writing on them.
Better explained by this picture seen in pilote-virtuel.com

http://www.easy-upload.net/fichiers/falc_50.20101217163054.bmp

Do you think you could do something, as you have recreated the model ?

Gérard

Bjoern
October 19th, 2016, 13:48
Postbaer used ModelConverterX for the model conversion, changing the texture mapping of parts is therefor not possible.

Postbaer61
October 19th, 2016, 13:53
I don't have recreated the model, only converted with MCX.
To solve the problem, I would have to install GMAX.
I think, then there is a way.
I only use MCX at this moment and can not seperate the
two engines.

Let's see what can be done in future. :wavey:

Essex
October 20th, 2016, 18:06
I don't have recreated the model, only converted with MCX.
To solve the problem, I would have to install GMAX.
I think, then there is a way.
I only use MCX at this moment and can not seperate the
two engines.

Let's see what can be done in future. :wavey:

In this particular case I think it would be quite easy to separate the engines.
When first imported into MCX the left and right engine are separate modelparts, they can easily be separately deleted or isolated.
Once isolated is should be possible to edit the texture names to be reacL & reacR for example.
The left and right engines can then be merged back into main MDL.
Sounds easy at least (I haven't actually tried it).
Hopefully the original modellers will approve of this conversion.

Postbaer61
October 21st, 2016, 01:54
i have exactly tried this.
But the left and right engine, are one component in MCX
and use only one texture.
perhaps you can seperate the both engines with GMAX
and you can change the layout for texturing.

gaab
October 21st, 2016, 04:09
I don't have recreated the model, only converted with MCX.
To solve the problem, I would have to install GMAX.
I think, then there is a way.
I only use MCX at this moment and can not seperate the
two engines.

Let's see what can be done in future. :wavey:

So, no chance as well to be able to hide the yokes ?

:sorrow:

But, I am still impatient to get any improvement.
Thanks for this beautifull model.

If I dare ask, not tempted to improve also her little sister the cute Falcon 10 ?

Gérard

https://s9.postimg.org/6r522vjf3/FX_2016_oct_13_020.jpg

Essex
October 21st, 2016, 06:44
i have exactly tried this.
But the left and right engine, are one component in MCX
and use only one texture.


The engines are made up of 6 modelparts, to be able to see them MCX needs to be set to;
Collapse model parts: False

Postbaer61
October 21st, 2016, 08:44
Essex,
you made my day,
That was the decisive point.
now we have different textures for left and right.
Thank a lot !!

And, yes Gerard the Yokes can now be hidden.
For the Falcon 10 I can't any promising.
You need permission or toleration of the author.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/22/ScreenShot10-21-16at05.04PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/22/ScreenShot10-21-16at05.04PM001.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/22/ScreenShot10-21-16at05.27PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/22/ScreenShot10-21-16at05.27PM001.jpg

gaab
October 21st, 2016, 09:54
Essex,
you made my day,
That was the decisive point.
now we have different textures for left and right.
Thank a lot !!

And, yes Gerard the Yokes can now be hidden.
For the Falcon 10 I can't any promising.
You need permission or toleration of the author.

Great - a big thank for these enhancements !

Concerning the Falcon 10, I fully agree with the need of the authors agreement.

Here the extract of the readme - if it can help



Dassault Falcon 10 package
Credits:

Original aircraft design by Andrew Jarvis
Repaint by Jacques Capdeville
4/3 and 16/9 panels by Philippe Wallaert


Jacques Capdeville
jacquescapdeville@pau.fr or jcapde on Military AI Works forums

Killbilly
October 21st, 2016, 10:11
Beautiful work! I have always loved this plane. Nice to see it getting the facelift it deserves.

gaab
October 29th, 2016, 04:04
@Postbaer61,

Did you succeed to get in contact with the Copyrights owner of this beautiful Falcon 50 ?

I can't wait to see her published ...

Gérard

Postbaer61
October 30th, 2016, 16:02
Hello Gerard,

I have written a message to Mr. Yannick Lavigne of an
Announcement about the release of the new model.

I know from Ludovic "vonstroheim", who had the last contact with him,
Mr Lavigne has nothing against the publication of his
model,as long as no significant changes are made
and it remains as an freeware project.

I think, Mr. Lavigne has withdrawn from the flight simulator community
and does not want to deal with it any more.

So far he has not spoken negatively about my plans, so I assume,
I can publish the new models soon.


http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/31/ScreenShot10-30-16at11.32PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/31/ScreenShot10-30-16at11.49PM.jpg

The Robin DR400 are also ready fore departure.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/31/ScreenShot10-30-16at11.13PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/31/ScreenShot10-30-16at11.17PM.jpg

gribouil
October 31st, 2016, 00:07
Good morning,
I met Mr Lavigne a few weeks ago at the first aeronautical airshow held at LFCS (Bordeaux - Léognan - Saucats). I had a chat with him (very nice man) and I confirm he is no longer in the flightsim area, he moved on several years ago to the aerial photography.
He still owns this Humbert Tétras (french ultralight aircraft) which he started reproducing a few years ago but never ended:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44174&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44173&stc=1

Best regards,

Stéph.

gaab
October 31st, 2016, 01:08
Hello Postbaer61,

Great new and beautiful screenshoots.

I am waiting your future publication with hope.

Gérard

Postbaer61
November 6th, 2016, 05:20
Falcon 50 FSX native

I would like to announce
I've uploaded the new Falcon50 package in FSX native format today,
to the addons library

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=35
(http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=35)
I hope you enjoy :cheerful:

Best regards
Bluebear

fsafranek
November 6th, 2016, 08:55
Couldn't find it here at SOH downloads yet but did spot it earlier this morning at simviation ("FSX Native Falcon 50 Package" at top of page).

http://simviation.com/1/browse-Civil+Jets-55-0?mark=51798#51798

Thanks for doing the work on this Bluebear and for making it available.
:ernaehrung004:

thunder100
November 6th, 2016, 09:11
Thanks alot

Really cool

1 question though

Where to turn the yoke in VC on and off ?

Roland

Postbaer61
November 6th, 2016, 09:34
Thanks alot

@ Frank
i think it needs some time to get it here at S.O.H

@ Roland
please use the wing fold command, on my system is this the tab+f key
yours could be different
See under: options, settings, control, wing fold command.

I am pleased when you like this gem.
perhaps the Falcon will be preserved for some time.


:ernaehrung004:
Bluebear

thunder100
November 6th, 2016, 10:55
Thanks

Strong effort

And now we you have lengthened the journey from FS2002 !!!! till P3D

Roland

vonstroheim
November 6th, 2016, 15:07
Thank you very much BlueBear! Nice to see the old girl again... Hope repainters have a go at it!

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/29679242f1.jpg


http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/49595183f2.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/44529487f3.jpg

Repaint (http://web.archive.org/web/20081114200504/http://www.frenchairforce.fr/download.php?view.157)by Martial Feron (you need to create left engine texture). Cockpit hack with Aeroworx King Air gauges (payware). Scenery: Cape Verde by FSDG (http://fsdg-online.com/home/49-cape-verde-free.html)(free).

Postbaer61
November 7th, 2016, 03:50
Thanks a lot, Ludovic

for all your support.

Nice shots you've made and
great to see, that the new textures works.
Thanks for demonstation. :wavey:

I agree ,and hope as well for some nice new repaints
for the old girl.

Btw, it would be great to hear, how far it works in P3D
also would it be nice to see some P3D shots. http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/icons/icon27.gif

Thanks all

Bluebear

kremin
November 7th, 2016, 14:55
Thank you very much BlueBear! Nice to see the old girl again... Hope repainters have a go at it!

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/29679242f1.jpg


http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/49595183f2.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/44529487f3.jpg

Repaint (http://web.archive.org/web/20081114200504/http://www.frenchairforce.fr/download.php?view.157)by Martial Feron (you need to create left engine texture). Cockpit hack with Aeroworx King Air gauges (payware). Scenery: Cape Verde by FSDG (http://fsdg-online.com/home/49-cape-verde-free.html)(free).


Nice work vonstroheim, esp. the cockpit hack - I have the AWX King Air and miss it a lot - any chance of getting your panel.cfg?

best regards
Rick Canham
Australia

jpmouse
November 7th, 2016, 15:19
Wow! :redfire: Thank you to all of the folks that have worked on bringing back this treasure. She flies like a dream and I am reliving the days of FS 2002. The Dassault Falcon 50 is a long time favorite and it is wonderful to be flying her again.

Already have 15 hours on her.

Thank you again for the perseverance in bringing back Lavigne's masterpiece of the time.

JPMouse

gaab
November 7th, 2016, 15:47
Hello Postbaer61,

You made my day :jump:.
Thanks to your explanations and tools, I just easily updated my personnal copy of the WhiteMarine by Martial Feron.

https://s13.postimg.org/gr3oanc5z/FX_2016_nov_7_017.jpg

I just duplicate my post on the Library download, as I am not sure at was in the right place...

Just a question - the windshield is very dark seen from outside - pilots are barely visible (with lights on as before).
I noticed that there is a missing texture : GLASS_S.DDS.

Could this be reason ?


Gérard

Postbaer61
November 7th, 2016, 17:09
Thanks all,

Gérard you are right,

i must have upload the wrong file,

i'm sure i have all textures added and
corrected the aircraft.cfg files.

Anyway , i have made a patch, which is on the way,
with the missing glass textures and more transparent
wind textures.

I am sorry for the circumstances.

Bluebear

vonstroheim
November 7th, 2016, 17:39
...any chance of getting your panel.cfg?

All the credits goes to Bluebear for this FSX native conversion. But yes, if you have the Aeroworx gauges, sure you can try this quick and dirty panel hack... 44356

expat
November 7th, 2016, 23:41
Nothing new here - you've seen this posted in the older long thread on porting over the F50. Just shows the mod potential. EADI is from the payware Flight1 PC-12 but you can use other payware (eg Carenado) or freeware gauges to interior decorate . .


<a href='https://postimg.org/image/wigjoprov/' target='_blank'><img src='https://s11.postimg.org/qua8xtncj/F50_vc_002.jpg' border='0' alt='F50_vc (002)'/><br /><a target='_blank' href='https://postimage.org/'>free image hosting</a><br /><br /> (https://postimg.org/image/wigjoprov/)

rohan
November 8th, 2016, 02:27
"Anyway , i have made a patch, which is on the way,
with the missing glass textures and more transparent
wind textures."

And, yet again, the patch has disappeared from the library. I understand why this happens, but it doesn't really help those of us with download limits. Now, to get the patched files, I have to use up 80 Mb of my limit instead of 40 Mb. Please can you at least upload the patch to this thread ...

Postbaer61
November 8th, 2016, 02:40
okay , Rohan

here the direct link to the patch : http://www.mediafire.com/file/k0breo8aceap349/Falcon50FSXnative_patch.zip

had only 115 kb .

:ernaehrung004:
Bluebear

Postbaer61
November 8th, 2016, 02:48
great suggestion, expat :encouragement:

i have also the Flight1 PC-12,
i will try it out.

Thanks

Bluebear

expat
November 8th, 2016, 04:38
What would be great if there were a way to makeover some alternative interior colors and textures.


https://s14.postimg.org/514edxe4h/f50_sn40_aft_29m.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ngovbbs8t/)

scotth6
November 8th, 2016, 06:52
Thankyou Bluebear. The plane looks excellent. Great to see an older aircraft get a new lease of life.

Cheers,

rohan
November 8th, 2016, 07:38
Thank you, Bluebear

alain0568
November 8th, 2016, 11:10
Hello vonstroheim (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/member.php?94808-vonstroheim)


where to find the Marine texture No. 132?

Thank you!




Alain

-

ryanbatc
November 8th, 2016, 11:29
Thanks for the FSX conversion! Are there any USA liveries with the corrected and flipped registration on the engine?

Edit I found the one in the package itself. Any clues why I have no sound? Something I missed in the readme?

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/More%20FS/falcon.jpg (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/ryanbatc/media/More%20FS/falcon.jpg.html)

gaab
November 8th, 2016, 12:44
Sounds are aliased to the original Lear45...
Check you have it still installed
Gérard

vonstroheim
November 8th, 2016, 14:25
...where to find the Marine texture No. 132?

This repaint by Martial Feron ("ferondoe") was available on the French Air Force website, unfortunately offline. The "Wayback Machine" (internet archive) has kept a trace here (http://web.archive.org/web/20081114200504/http://www.frenchairforce.fr/download.php?view.157). There is 2 repaints in this package, the other one is a "République Française" livery. Maybe the package is available elsewhere, but I couldn't find it. Why don't you ask Martial? He makes really nice repaints...

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/70399016f4.jpg

Scenery: departing Nice, France Photoreal (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/topic/25250-france-photoreal-scenery/) (freeware) by OZx Developer Scott Harmes.

alain0568
November 8th, 2016, 14:41
Ok!
Thank you!

Alain
.

Postbaer61
November 8th, 2016, 15:37
Hallo Ryan,

Thank you,

As Gérard correct explained, the sound is aliased to the default Lear45 sound.

You could find nearly all repaints at Flightsim.com,AVSIM.net, simviation.com.
Search for Falcon 50 and you will get some americans.
They diden't have registrations on his engines and you have to reworked them
as i explained in the repaint ReadMe file.

I would have done it, but I need the permission of all repainters
and that is unfortunately too much effort, sorry.
It's very simple and I'm sure you can make it. http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/icons/icon23.gif

Thanks all

Bluebear

kremin
November 8th, 2016, 17:09
All the credits goes to Bluebear for this FSX native conversion. But yes, if you have the Aeroworx gauges, sure you can try this quick and dirty panel hack... 44356

@vonstroheim
Yes of course.......but thank you for the panel info.

@Postbaer61
Many, many thanks for reviving this classic freeware FS package.......holds its own even today.

And thanks to all for the liveries etc...

Postbaer61
November 9th, 2016, 06:32
Hallo Rick,

It was me a pleasure.

I am very grateful about the many excellent freeware,
which I have been using for years.

So i'm glad that I could make a small contribution for the flugsimulator community.

regards

Bluebear

ryanbatc
November 9th, 2016, 08:09
I installed it to P3D - explains why there is no sound. I'll try to find a different aircraft to alias the sound to

fsafranek
November 9th, 2016, 11:01
This repaint by Martial Feron ("ferondoe") was available on the French Air Force website, unfortunately offline. The "Wayback Machine" (internet archive) has kept a trace here.
There is 2 repaints in this package, the other one is a "République Française" livery. Maybe the package is available elsewhere, but I couldn't find it. Why don't you ask Martial?
He makes really nice repaints...
(Reply with quote isn't working)

I wrote to Martial asking him to upload them elsewhere so we could enjoy them again. Fingers crossed.
:ernaehrung004:

Postbaer61
November 9th, 2016, 14:02
Here is a solution for the sound problem for P3D and all other users
they don't use the default Lear45.

I found at AVSIM.net
a free Honeywell TFE731-20BR sound,
which should sound pretty similar to the original Honeywell TFE731-40 engines,
imho.

you need the optional sound package from the zip file.
Put the content of sound file into the Falcon sound folder ,and the new
three engine sound.cfg which you found in this download.

all info in Falcon50alternate_sound.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hlm6xd58dx3869s/Falcon50alternate_sound.zip

also is there a small update to use the yoke clickspot in VC, thank you Gerard http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/icons/icon27.gif

http://www.mediafire.com/file/sr1s3j34jbs91d6/Falcon50klickspotfix.zip

only for people, who want test it out !

Bluebear

expat
November 9th, 2016, 14:35
So much fun with this 14 year old FS2002 aircraft and textures. Even got the Rockwell "Airshow" In Flight Entertainment moving map display on the wall (with nightmap illuminated)! Love this interior view and lighting.

https://s15.postimg.org/qhd7c5itn/F50_airshow.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/4i6soy1zb/)

expat
November 10th, 2016, 13:33
I should know this, but if I wanted to make all the glass darker, in FSX do you make the alpha (in the wind.dds texture) lighter - the opposite of what you do in FS9?

Bjoern
November 10th, 2016, 14:56
Alpha value: 0 (black) - completely transparent, 255 (white) - completely opaque.

expat
November 10th, 2016, 15:38
Thanks Bjoern!

expat
November 11th, 2016, 02:53
I achieved a better darker effect using Bluebear's new wind.dds but also by disabling the "glass" bmp.

ejoiner
November 11th, 2016, 07:30
I was also glad to see this old gal again. :)

Any current FSX level repaints esp with an American registration? :)

expat
November 11th, 2016, 08:53
Any current FSX level repaints esp with an American registration?

Definitely second that motion!! Some ideas:

http://barrieaircraft.com/images/dassault-falcon-50-08.jpg

http://www.aviationpartners.com/images/slider/falcon50.jpg Dig those winglets!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8682/16518174275_d45f2e73b9_b.jpg

http://www.cbjets.com/articles/images/falcon-50.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/7/1/2/1909217.jpg?v=v20

Postbaer61
November 11th, 2016, 09:14
here some existing american repaints,which i found.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/12/ScreenShot11-11-16at06.05PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/12/ScreenShot11-11-16at05.52PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/12/ScreenShot11-11-16at05.49PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/12/ScreenShot11-11-16at05.47PM.jpg

Postbaer61
November 11th, 2016, 09:14
all textures works, even from FS2002

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/12/ScreenShot11-11-16at05.11PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/12/ScreenShot11-11-16at05.06PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/12/ScreenShot11-11-16at05.04PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/12/ScreenShot11-11-16at05.01PM.jpg

ryanbatc
November 11th, 2016, 14:05
Cool! But they all have the reversed textures right? I've done two repaints and it's a PITA hehe. So I'll be content with the US livery in the package. Thanks!

gaab
November 11th, 2016, 14:55
Cool! But they all have the reversed textures right? I've done two repaints and it's a PITA hehe. So I'll be content with the US livery in the package. Thanks!

Not at all : the central (top) jet have two different textures since the FS2004 version. It's only on the side jets that there was this problem, now solved thanks to Bluebear.

So go on to download these repaints !

Gérard

expat
November 12th, 2016, 02:12
Amazing these paints are 14 years old. This is the Archer Daniels Midland paint Ron Hamilton did with some simple re-coloring using dxt.bmp and MSPaint.

https://s11.postimg.org/yfzjwnyxf/AADMF50.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/5qco00uxb/)

expat
November 12th, 2016, 08:23
Leaving Samedan Switzerland for warmer climes . .

https://s11.postimg.org/ebj9plfub/asam.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/fqkuebgxb/)imgur (https://postimage.org/)

Naismith
November 12th, 2016, 14:05
AAaarrrgh where are you guys finding these paints? The main 3 sites are not having them from what I can tell

Postbaer61
November 12th, 2016, 14:21
Search for "Falcon 50" on FlightSim.com and not Falcon50,
the small difference with the empty line are crucial. :jump:



:very_drunk:

falcon409
November 16th, 2016, 06:29
This is something I'm doing for myself, but if anyone is interested I'll upload when it's finished. I'm doing the static/non-functional gauges and modules to try to clean up the noise seen in the current VC bitmaps. The current ones are certainly fine, I just like clean sharp images with text that I can read, even if the particular gauges don't really work. I'm also going to redo the base background panel as well. The functional gauges already have bezels and so I won't mess with those other than adding a slight drop shadow for depth.

This is the only version I'm doing so if you've done custom work and added additional gauges or moved things around to suit you then this won't work. JS

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g84/ejwells409/Falcon_50_VC.jpg

WIP, still a lot to do.

expat
November 16th, 2016, 06:40
Very fine work Ed as usual. Looks much cleaner/tidier.

OT: I have found that the alpha channel for the flaps.dds in the new (Bluebear's) native model textures may be too dark, and possibly set for reflection in FS9 rather than FSX. I made the alpha lighter/whiter but still have trouble getting any reflection to appear. The leading edge slats in real life are very mirror/chrome like. Reverting to the "original" flap.bmp Bluebear kindly and helpfully included in his package (thanks again!) made the reflection better.

OT 2: is it possible to get the red carpet and attendant standing on the ground to appear, or is this animation not workable in FSX?

gaab
November 16th, 2016, 12:23
This is something I'm doing for myself, but if anyone is interested I'll upload when it's finished.

WIP, still a lot to do.

Hello Ed,

I will be very happy to get, when ready, your improved VC background - it will be a great addition to this Falcon 50 native FSX.
I am always greatful for every enhancement to this great model, I fly regularly.

Gérard

Postbaer61
November 16th, 2016, 12:26
Indeed very fine work, ED !! :encouragement:

Very interesting, i'm looking forward.

for information, a new update is coming soon. :running:

I have fixed some small bugs.
There was a problem with the backwing texture.
I renewd the flaps reflections, now they looks like chrome
as in real.

Fixed the missing shadow representation on panel.
Fixed the Yoke clickspot in vc.

Add a sound file and the flaps_spec texture.

It is no more possible to show the attendant on red carpet,
because he is not showing in MDLX in opposite to the pilots
which i found in the model file from FS 2002.
I forgot to mention it, sorry

Bluebear

Postbaer61
November 16th, 2016, 12:56
i've played a bit with textures ;-)

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/17/ScreenShot11-14-16at11.47AM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/17/ScreenShot11-15-16at12.31AM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/17/ScreenShot11-15-16at01.37PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/17/ScreenShot11-15-16at12.37AM.jpg

fsafranek
November 16th, 2016, 13:29
Indeed very fine work, ED !! :encouragement:

Very interesting, i'm looking forward.

for information, a new update is coming soon. :running:

I have fixed some small bugs.
There was a problem with the backwing texture.
I renewd the flaps reflections, now they looks like chrome
as in real.

Fixed the missing shadow representation on panel.
Fixed the Yoke clickspot in vc.

Add a sound file and the flaps_spec texture.

It is no more possible to show the attendant on red carpet,
because he is not showing in MDLX in opposite to the pilots
which i found in the model file from FS 2002.
I forgot to mention it, sorry

Bluebear
Appreciate all your work in giving this beauty a mid-life extension.
:ernaehrung004:

fsafranek
November 16th, 2016, 13:31
This is something I'm doing for myself, but if anyone is interested I'll upload when it's finished. I'm doing the static/non-functional gauges and modules to try to clean up the noise seen in the current VC bitmaps. The current ones are certainly fine, I just like clean sharp images with text that I can read, even if the particular gauges don't really work. I'm also going to redo the base background panel as well. The functional gauges already have bezels and so I won't mess with those other than adding a slight drop shadow for depth.

This is the only version I'm doing so if you've done custom work and added additional gauges or moved things around to suit you then this won't work. JS

I for one would be very interested in seeing and flying with your mods.
:ernaehrung004:

kremin
November 16th, 2016, 22:05
This is something I'm doing for myself, but if anyone is interested I'll upload when it's finished...........

Hi Ed,
Yes please, count me in. :encouragement:

alain0568
November 16th, 2016, 22:54
Hello Ed,


-Me too!:encouragement:


Alain

expat
November 17th, 2016, 02:21
i've played a bit with textures ;-)

Nice alternative for the interior textures - well done! This aircraft is a source of never ending fun.

Postbaer61
November 20th, 2016, 05:38
Falcon 50 FSX native Update

I would like to announce
I've uploaded the new Falcon50fsx.v.1.2native_Update package today,
to the addons library

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=35

As long as it is not yet available:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2d6vj6jzn6ez0ov/Falcon50fsx.v.1.2native_Update.zip

I hope you enjoy :cheerful:

Best regards
Bluebear

expat
November 20th, 2016, 08:45
Made my weekend - thanks B.B.!:wavey:

wallyboard
November 20th, 2016, 11:58
Yes, a great way to top off a weekend! Really like the spruce-up on the textures. Great 3 engine sounds. Still a smooth and fun ride. Thanks!

Cheers
Larry

scotth6
November 30th, 2016, 04:40
I really love this bird. Thanks heaps.

I have added the Rex/Milviz radar as a pop up and to the VC.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/30/2016-11-30_22-50-53-284.jpg


http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/30/2016-11-30_22-54-42-256.jpg


http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/30/2016-11-30_23-5-48-559.jpg


http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/30/2016-11-30_23-27-34-29.jpg

Cheers,

expat
November 30th, 2016, 05:01
Nice mod and shots!

Postbaer61
November 30th, 2016, 07:00
captain sim's WXR works also ;-)

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/01/ScreenShot11-30-16at03.50PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/01/ScreenShot11-30-16at03.30PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/01/ScreenShot11-20-16at11.57PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/01/ScreenShot11-15-16at03.07PM.jpg

expat
November 30th, 2016, 12:10
I have and might try the CS WXR. Using the freeware Raytheon one that has nice looking terrain. Also having fun modding Bluebear's recent interior mods . .

https://s15.postimg.org/6wivckwnv/f50b.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/54pwhodav/)

https://s21.postimg.org/dw2hga9d3/f50c.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/gde8njt9f/)

https://s11.postimg.org/40nhxst83/f50a.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/oxjq2gr8v/)

Postbaer61
December 23rd, 2016, 15:13
I wish you all a Merry Christmas :santahat: and a Peaceful and Healthy New Year.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/24/ScreenShot12-05-16at06.13PM.jpg

Bluebear

Postbaer61
January 8th, 2017, 15:25
work in progress ...
full working Overhead and Pedestal Panel and a simple fmc variant.


http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/01/09/ScreenShot01-04-17at05.14PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/01/09/ScreenShot01-04-17at02.53PM001.jpg



http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/01/09/ScreenShot01-09-17at12.22AM.jpg

:very_drunk:


Bluebear

Bjoern
January 8th, 2017, 23:22
Did you manage to add gauge polys to the cockpit with ModelConverter?

Postbaer61
January 10th, 2017, 04:19
Hi Bjoern,
No gauge polys, like the default panel.
I have build projection planars with VC §textures on it ,
to add the new panel parts to the default one.
I'm a bloody beginner and not familiar with build
panels and gauges or gauge polys,
so every tips,hints and help are welcome.
If you are interested, I can send you the files.

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/01/10/ScreenShot01-09-17at01.50PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/01/10/ScreenShot01-09-17at02.03PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/01/10/ScreenShot01-09-17at02.01PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/01/10/ScreenShot01-09-17at01.52PM.jpg

Bluebear

expat
January 10th, 2017, 05:33
Those look great!

Bjoern
January 10th, 2017, 10:15
"Gauge polygon" is the term used to descibe polygons with "virtual cockpit" type materials and "$..." textures, so if you managed to make the overhead and pedestal clickable, you've implemented gauge polygons into the model. (Good job again!)

Postbaer61
January 11th, 2017, 05:36
Thank you ,gentlemen http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/icons/icon26.gif

Postbaer61
February 18th, 2017, 09:45
I would like to announce,

I've uploaded the new Falcon50fsx.v.1.2native_Panel_Model_Update package
today to the SOH File library.

New in version 1.2 Panel and Model update

Model : new default model files that correct the take off problem
with the hidden yokes,(folding wings issue)
new overhead and pedestal inner model .

Panel : default Panel updated.
new overhead and pedestal panel "OHP"
that comes with default radios and GPS500
new overhead and pedestal panel "FMC"
that comes with Garrett Smith HoneywellFMC and
radios from the default Bombardier_CRJ_700

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/02/19/ScreenShot02-18-17at05.57PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/02/19/ScreenShot02-18-17at05.58PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/02/19/ScreenShot02-18-17at05.59PM.jpg

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/02/19/ScreenShot02-18-17at06.18PM.jpg

I like to listen music on long haul flights.
That's why is there also a CD Radio variant,which i upload seperate,
because it's an old gauge and does not work on any system.
Feel free to test it out.
On my Win7 64 with FSX Acc ,it works mostly without probs.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/pbcae80v5tg4tve/Falcon50fsx.v.1.2native_Panel_Model_Update_wr.zip
(http://www.mediafire.com/file/pbcae80v5tg4tve/Falcon50fsx.v.1.2native_Panel_Model_Update_wr.zip)
I hope you enjoy

Best regards

Bluebear

scotth6
February 19th, 2017, 00:24
Very cool! Especially like the tunes idea. Will test that out tonight.

Cheers,

expat
February 19th, 2017, 11:33
Very nice - thank you!

https://s3.postimg.org/edj8x8dwz/f50vc.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/guv04hxtb/)

Postbaer61
February 19th, 2017, 14:06
Hallo Scott,

thanks for the interest .
I'm curious about your experience.
Sadly ,I have no experience with gauge programing,
otherwise i would had build an actual Version of cd radio,
but perhaps it works for you.


Hallo expat ,

Very nice variant of GPS, who is this from ?

The new pedestal panel offers many possibilities .
I am curious about what users will try.

I could also imagine a modern EX panel variant

Cheers
Bluebear

expat
February 20th, 2017, 02:31
Very nice variant of GPS, who is this from ?

Upper display is a Raytheon freeware radar available at avsim. Lower one is an Avidyne unit borrowed from the payware Carenado B200.

scotth6
February 20th, 2017, 05:08
thanks for the interest .
I'm curious about your experience.


Cheers
Bluebear

Hey Bluebear,

Unfortunately it didn't seem to work for me. I had very low FPS with the CD active. As you stated there was an issue with the sound (volume) mixer when using the CD. Apart from the usual speakers and system sounds, two more fields were added to my volume mixer, one for FSX sound and one for Steam sound (I was using FSX:SE). I didn't seem to get any sound from the CD player, and as I said there were extremely low FPS (<1 FPS). When I ended the flight a windows error message indicating a problem with the volume mixer appeared. I did notice that adjusting the volume on the CD player adjusted the FSX volume (engines, ATC etc).

Not to worry, the rest of the package is amazing. I will just play my CDs in the PC drive if I need to ;) .

Cheers,

gray eagle
February 20th, 2017, 07:57
I've installed only this update and don't see any Falcon 50's...was I suppose to install the original first then this update over the original FS9 version? Where is the original version?
not seeing any Dassult in aircraft menu... I've also installed the panel update.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=35


Falcon 50 FSX native Update

I would like to announce
I've uploaded the new Falcon50fsx.v.1.2native_Update package today,
to the addons library

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=35

As long as it is not yet available:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2d6vj6jzn6ez0ov/Falcon50fsx.v.1.2native_Update.zip

I hope you enjoy :cheerful:

Best regards
Bluebear

Postbaer61
February 20th, 2017, 08:28
Hello gray eagle,

the installation sequence is : 1. FSX Native Falcon_50_with_patch.zip

2. Falcon50_FSX_V1.2_Native_Update.zip

3. Vers 1.2 FSX native Panel and Model update.zip

which you found here http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=35

sorry for the confusion :wavey:

Bluebear