What aircraft do you think is missing from FSX?

[bruce448]

I normally sit in the background when questions like this appear, but there are aircraft I would love to see produced to full FSX standard and willing to pay for it. So I thought why not make a poll, and maybe the devs and modellers out there might get some inspiration.

My era of simming is WW2 and post war Props, and first and second Generation Jets.

So here goes with my wish list

WW2 - A6m series

Post War - Hawker Sea Fury

First Gen Jet - P-80/T-33/Seastar

Second Gen Jet - EE Lightning

Bruce

[dswo]

I don't think I did the poll right; I clicked on "WWII Props," and it grabbed that as my vote. What I meant to indicate was: Bruce is right, we need at least one Zero.

[bruce448]

It's me noy too sure on how to make it show up as individual items per se, i.e what you would choose from each era

[Deano]

Zeke, Rufe and the George

[Roger]

Zeke, Rufe and the George

I'd love to see a Pete too:d

[ryanbatc]

I think a smaller bizjet is missing - I'm talking Falcon 10, Hawker H25B, Learjet 23/25, Gulfstream (yes I know their stance on fs models)

[Tweek]

There's a difference between what is missing and what I, personally, don't have enough of. WW2 props aren't missing at all, as we have plenty compared to first and second gen jets. Yet some people may think they don't have enough, as it's their favourite type of aircraft.

[oakfloor]

Hawker sea fury.."H" model 51' and how about a high quality Douglas B-26K?

[Moses03]

Would like to see more Golden Age aircraft, say from about 1925 to 1935.

[conork]

The Sikorsky S-61N ....................................well untill project S-61 is finished , but we still need a good Westland sea king and SH3

[ColoKent]

Post-war prop: Fokker F-27 (I know Mike Stoe did one YEARS ago, but...) , P2V-5F Neptune (I know Alpha did a -7 four years ago, but...), Grumman S-2F Tracker and C1A Trader (I know there is an portover payware version from a number of years ago, but....)

First Gen Jet: Why, T-33A, of course (I know Piglet did one six years ago, but...)

Also...a NATIVE FSX B-57B/C/E (and also an EB-57!)

Kent

[skyblazer3]

F-84, T-33, F-100......... oh how we could use an F- one double O

[krazycolin]

I have an A6M Zero... wtih a little work, it could be made ready for FSX.... Should I?

[Hanimichal]

Wanna we have this with detailed VC

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2601/aerocommander.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/aerocommander.jpg/)

[kilo delta]

I have an A6M Zero... wtih a little work, it could be made ready for FSX.... Should I?

I *think* that another developer has plans to release a Zero (JF)...if that doesn't matter to you then the more the merrier! :)



Edit: As for the original question "What aircraft do you think is missing from FSX?"

How long is a piece of string? :)

There are literally hundreds,if not thousands of designs that simmers would love to fly in native format in FSX. I'd personally like to see some Cold War ex-Soviet military hardware Mig's 23,27,25,31,Sukhoi Su-17/22,24,25, Tupolev Tu-95, Mil Mi-8,12,17,26 etc etc etc etc :d

[Marvin Carter]

FW 189
http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss241/Marvin-56/first/SY_Fw-189_Luftwaffe_Generic_Desert_.jpg

[dswo]

Payware-quality DC-3 (we've talked about this before).

[Tweek]

I'd personally like to see some Cold War ex-Soviet military hardware Mig's 23,27,25,31,Sukhoi Su-17/22,24,25, Tupolev Tu-95, Mil Mi-8,12,17,26 etc etc etc etc :d

Ooh, yes please! :jump:

[Mathias]

Personally I believe that the early European aviation always came too short in flight simulations.
For whatever reasons developers tend to believe that aviation history was only written in the States what is by far not the case.
The absence of the first all metal - and commercially succesfull - passenger plane the Junkers F13 in FS9, subtitled "A Century Of Flight" sais it all.
So no vote for a specific plane from me but lobbying for early European aviation in general here.

[Thoe6969]

Wanna we have this with detailed VC

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2601/aerocommander.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/aerocommander.jpg/) Oh yeah ,always loved Miltons commanders.

[bazzar]

Payware-quality DC-3 (we've talked about this before).

On the way my friend...:engel016:

[falcon409]

F-84, T-33, F-100......... oh how we could use an F- one double O
Amen. . .the F-100 is long overdue and overlooked!!:salute:

[Bjoern]

My personal "They are missing so I'll someday gonna model them myself someday" list:

- Dornier 528/728/928
- Boeing 737-100/200/300/400/500
- Airbus A318
- MiG-23MLD/BN
- MiG-21bis

- Edit: Almost forgot...

- MD-87/90/95

[SADT]

Hi,

Well lets see:
In "other":
- Beech Bonanza A36, not F33 or V35!
- Beech Queen Air,
- Piper PA32 series, both the early Cherokee Six FG/RG and later Saratoga II are not modeled for FSX/DX10
- Mooney M20 Acclaim,
- Cessna 210 Centurion,
- Early straight-back Cessna 182,
- Piper Comanche

See there are lots of GA not modeled for FSX/DX10!

[gradyhappyg]

How about a native Cessna 337 Skymaster.

[wiltzei]

I´d like to see all of these in payware quality (or near).
DC-8
Tu-154m
MiG-21F/bis
English Electric Lightning
SR-71
B-29
0
some kind of ekranoplan :D
Su-27

[Dougie]

Yes, definitely an SR -71
;)

[heywooood]

the Golden Age needs more love

Staggerwing

Howard DGA

Stearman C-4E

Stearman model 6F Cloudboy

Stearman S-76D1 (sure only 6 were ever built but its a Stearman on floats)

Stinson Sr5 Reliant

Ryan STA

Grumman F-3F

Polikarpov I-16, I-15

Great Lakes 2T-1A

the list is long and distinguished...like my :salute:

[txnetcop]

F-100D or F
DC-3, DC-8 (Accusimmed)
F-4B Phantom II, and F-4RC would be nice too (Accusimmed)
English Electric Lightning F6
Dornier 528
P-40 Accusimmed
Korean War F-51 (Accusimmed)
F-80
Fully FSX F-86
Gloster E-28-Piglet Special
Fokker F28 MK 1000C (Heck any of the F-28 with a great VC)

[hammer353]

TBM Avenger, Panther, Spitfire(accusim), Need more ww2 american bombers: B-29, A-26, PB4Y Privateer.

[Piglet]

As some one aready said, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of planes out there that need their FSX debut. So we need more modellers, not "I want xxxx":applause: Love 1920's Berzerkistan Air Corps Laundy Wing aircraft? Build it!
Unless some one knows how to clone plane builders. Well, there is the hot babe/9 months method...

[Pips]

One glaring omission IMHO, and that is ........

[Rich]

Tim, I agree 100% far to many I wanters not enough doers and far to few who will attempt to do anything.


As some one aready said, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of planes out there that need their FSX debut. So we need more modellers, not "I want xxxx":applause: Love 1920's Berzerkistan Air Corps Laundy Wing aircraft? Build it!
Unless some one knows how to clone plane builders. Well, there is the hot babe/9 months method...

[Navy Chief]

Ok, this isn't a military jet, but always wanted to see this in FSX:

A Convair 880. Was done in previous FS version (at least AI type).

Flew in one as a kid down to Alabama from Indiana....

NC

[skyhawka4m]

F-86H

[skyhawka4m]

OA-37B Dragonfly

[d0mokun]

Vickers Wellesley, without a doubt.

[Overshoe]

Cessna Corvalis

[Kiwikat]

RV-8! :173go1:

[Death_Eagle_571]

I think FSX could use a very high quality IL-2 Sturmovik there were so many variants and color schemes it would be a re-painter's dream, and its a very beautiful aircraft and has alot of history behind it...

[glennc]

How about pre-WWII - maybe the P-26?

Or mid-to-late 50's GA. Number one on my list would be the Piper Tri-Pacer - like Bill Lyon's FS9 or better. More from Europe would be nice. The Sibwings Saab Saphir is a good start, more like that.


Glenn

[Rezabrya]

I would also love to see an RV-8! :wiggle:

I would also love an F-22 Raptor and a B-2 Bomber.

[SADT]

Hi,

I second the call for a B-29 and a convair 880/990

[Z-DarthVader]

A truly native F-86 Sabre.

How's the Section F8 one coming along anyway?? :jump:

[robcap]

Would like to see more Golden Age aircraft, say from about 1925 to 1935.
I'm with Moses!

Rob

[kdl]

Many simmers and much more wishes:
Noorduyn C-64 Norseman

Greetings
Dieter

[Rich]

I think most are missing the point, if you want it get off your arse and do it, this must be the most useless post ever, Tim the Skyraider AEW would be nice but in your own time but I will be ok with busy on other things, I can do odds and ends but knackered with the whole thing so anything offered is accepted, as many modelers have said before if you do'nt like it delete it, Mike Stone I think was one.


As some one aready said, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of planes out there that need their FSX debut. So we need more modellers, not "I want xxxx":applause: Love 1920's Berzerkistan Air Corps Laundy Wing aircraft? Build it!
Unless some one knows how to clone plane builders. Well, there is the hot babe/9 months method...

[bruce448]

I'm sorry if I have upset a few of you out there, but at the end of the day all it is is a general concencus as to what era/ genre that people perfer, and if they could influence the modelmakers/devs what would they like to have, at the end of the day I'm not saying to the model makers and companies out there to "make this or that".

It's just that there is a great load of fantastic aircraft out there made for the previous versions of FS, that don't either port over very well or not at all. You may have noticed in the last couple of weeks people have been asking about various aircraft, and with no disrespect to the various companies but how many versions of Spitfires, Hurricanes, Mustangs and Boeing 73- or 74-'s can we have?

I have tried my hand at modelling, and I find it impossible, It's taken me 3 years to almost undertand the jist of painting and I understand that you can't please all of the people all of the time, but maybe just some of the people some of the time. If you look at the results so far there are 2 distinct leaders First Gen Jets and others and that is what I was trying to find out.


Hopefully this explains better the reason of the thread.

Bruce

[Cleartheprop]

I think this one would be great in the FSX living museum : The Supermarine S.6B, a wonderful racing seaplane of the early thirties.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Supermarine_S.6B_ExCC.jpg
For those who love the Spitfire (which has already been modelled for FSX I guess... ) here is the Wikipedia link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_S.6B) to the Supermarine S.6B).
I am afraid this kind of airplane is not as popular as the Spitfire, P51, Bf109 etc etc etc etc...

[Paul K]

a) FSX is a civilian flight sim, so something civilian.

b) Tubeliners are 'boring' so something propellery

c) We have Airhauler, so something cargo-ish.


a + b + c = Curtiss C-46 Commando

Sorry guys, you can't argue with the algebra

[OleBoy]

If I pursued modeling my experience from years ago and took the time to adapt and grow for flight simulator, I would not be saying anything here. I would be contributing to a love of flight, and making what "I" wanted to fly. All considered and wanting this to happen, the real world did not allow this and I could not make the time. Let alone have the patience in conversion from 3DSmax to whatever it took (Gmax) to get it to flightsim authoritative stature for usability. Not saying I was good at modeling, but at the time I was being taught by someone that was very good at it who designed and modeled for a living. It's all babble at this point anyway.

If I had a choice, my vote is for the Golden Era and the times that made aviation what it is today.
...I can think of many.
If I had the time and patience, there's only one legend I would do. Mentioned on many other forums in the past years, and there was no desire to make it happen. That included several payware developers also. All I'll say is, this virtual reality as we know it, is a money grab. Can't say as I blame those with the skills of what they do either.

It's easy to say what you want to see in flightsim. But developing something to a virtual reality standard, takes research & documentation to the nth degree.

[IanHenry]

Tornado Gr4

Ian.

[wiltzei]

The C-46 Commando would be really a nice plane to have. In my opinion, based on seeing the show "Ice Pilots", it´d be a really tricky plane to fly, especially in the crosswinds. Mikey from Buffalo Airways is probably a simmer himself. I recall him commenting a flaw in a BA repaint.

[ColoKent]

1. It shows what other people are craving aircraft-wise (and it does seem to have a bell-shaped curve to it), thus providing a general trend of what those who inhabit this board think is missing.
2. In a few cases, it revealed the attitudes of a few key people out there

Bruce-- good series of posts cause it provided some enlightenment-- and some good intel!

Kent

[CodyValkyrie]

I would also opt for some Golden Age planes. Not necessarily my "favorite" per say, but certainly an area of simulation that I dearly enjoy. Those beautiful metal biplanes are to DIE FOR. A Staggerwing is the cat's meow!

Ok... I need to calm down.

[Paul K]

The C-46 Commando would be really a nice plane to have. In my opinion, based on seeing the show "Ice Pilots", it´d be a really tricky plane to fly, especially in the crosswinds. Mikey from Buffalo Airways is probably a simmer himself. I recall him commenting a flaw in a BA repaint.

Just about to start watching Ice Pilots, Wiltzei. Never heard of it until it was mentioned at CBFS, with a link. It looks exactly the sort of flying that FSX and Orbx PNW would replicate very well.

[spatialpro]

there are hundreds, if not thousands, of planes out there that need their FSX debut. So we need more modellers

I agree with this also and am itching to give it a go when I'm not fiddling about with scenery. There are a lot of "I would like" (of which I have a fair few myself), but a thread like this could also serve to bring people together who might be on the verge of starting out with modelling (in the Flight Sim sense!) and may also find they have similar favorites and can agree to collaborate on a particular aircraft. I for one would love to find individuals/groups to team up with. Based on my scenery experience a lot more can be achieved by a group or partnership than by an individual (and there is a much greater chance of it actually seeing the light of day). There is little chance I'll embark on developing a model on my own.

However, to finish I can't help but also mention the Skyraider AEW...!

[Bjoern]

DC-8


A Convair 880.

Totally forgot about those, added them to my list.




So we need more modellers, not "I want xxxx":applause: Love 1920's Berzerkistan Air Corps Laundy Wing aircraft? Build it!

I'm propagating that as well, but I get the feeling I'm screaming in a hurricane.


Well, there is the hot babe/9 months method...Takes too long.

I'd clone myself if I could, but that would also require a RAID-1 mind mirroring device.

I could also lock myself up and make payware, but that's against everything I stand for.




Tim the Skyraider AEW would be nice

If it's just variations of models, it might help asking devs politely for the source files, doing your desired variation to the model and crediting them properly in the readme.




You may have noticed in the last couple of weeks people have been asking about various aircraft, and with no disrespect to the various companies but how many versions of Spitfires, Hurricanes, Mustangs and Boeing 73- or 74-'s can we have?

Until the well of money runs dry.


I have tried my hand at modelling, and I find it impossibleThen you didn't try hard enough or picked the wrong model.
If you want an aircraft in the sim BADLY, it's easier to climb that learning curve instead of just doing...something in Max/GMax.

Also, why would you have to please anyone?
Either people like your creations or they don't, who gives a rat's arse (except payware developers who'd starve if they pumped out an unpopular model :icon_lol:)? The most important thing is that *you* like it!

Modeling per se isn't impossible, I even find it easier than it's usually regarded. The worst thing is knowing your tools, say find out which function gives you which effect and what you'll have to use in what way to achieve this and that and of course getting your workflow up and running.

The only things really necessary for creating FSX addons is perseverance and desire. Nothing more, nothing less.




a + b + c = Curtiss C-46 Commando


The C-46 Commando would be really a nice plane to have.

Portover but compatible:
http://calclassic.com/commando.htm




There are a lot of "I would like" (of which I have a fair few myself), but a thread like this could also serve to bring people together who might be on the verge of starting out with modelling (in the Flight Sim sense!) and may also find they have similar favorites and can agree to collaborate on a particular aircraft. I for one would love to find individuals/groups to team up with. Based on my scenery experience a lot more can be achieved by a group or partnership than by an individual (and there is a much greater chance of it actually seeing the light of day). There is little chance I'll embark on developing a model on my own.

The only advantage working in a team has, is getting things done quicker.

Fortunately, MSFS always had a fairly open architecture (except for the models), so you basically just need to do the models and throw them out. If others have licked blood and find room for improvemets in editable areas, they'll do them. Texture upgrades, a new FDE, a custom soundset, a modified VC panel, etc...
If not, it's either up to you to do updates if you want to or you shrug it off and focus on a new project.
You're developing primarily for yourself after all.

[michael davies]

The Sikorsky S-61N ....................................well untill project S-61 is finished , but we still need a good Westland sea king and SH3

Soon.

[skyhawka4m]

RV-8! :173go1:


There is a nice RV coming along nicely!

[huub vink]

Piglet is right; there are obviously too many persons wanting things and too few to create things. And I wonder whether we really need these aircrafts or just want them.

However I think this poll is incomplete! There is no you can't tick WWI aircrafts. When my memory is correct there are currently 3 genuine FSX WWI aircrafts......

Cheers,
Huub

[crashaz]

Soon.


You sir have been missed. :wavey:

[empeck]

I think this one would be great in the FSX living museum : The Supermarine S.6B, a wonderful racing seaplane of the early thirties.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Supermarine_S.6B_ExCC.jpg
For those who love the Spitfire (which has already been modelled for FSX I guess... ) here is the Wikipedia link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_S.6B) to the Supermarine S.6B).
I am afraid this kind of airplane is not as popular as the Spitfire, P51, Bf109 etc etc etc etc...

This, this! Schneider Trophy for Acceleration racing :)

Beside this, I'd love to see MiG-29, Su-25, Mi-24 and Su-33 with Admiral Kuznetsov carrier. Accusim/Dodosim/VRS quality please :)

[HighGround22]

I have an A6M Zero... wtih a little work, it could be made ready for FSX.... Should I?Ai caramba, Si, Miguel !! (Sorry, but I overflowed my drool catcher!)

[Paul K]

Bjoern, the Cal Classics C-46 is NOT compatible with FSX SP2. I've tried it and had the usual prop disc / cloud problem.

[kilo delta]

Bjoern, the Cal Classics C-46 is NOT compatible with FSX SP2. I've tried it and had the usual prop disc / cloud problem.

Hence "compatible" and not "native" ;)

[skyhawka4m]

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[Bjoern]

There is a nice RV coming along nicely!

I think Kiwi meant this as a joke. I think he's a part of the team doing the RV.




Accusim/Dodosim/VRS quality please :)

Another thing that bugs me about requests...why do they always have to be highest quality and best of the best?

If I'd do a MiG-29 with standard aircrft system depth, would you throw it away or happily ignore it?

Can't we just be happy about having the aircraft in the first place?




Bjoern, the Cal Classics C-46 is NOT compatible with FSX SP2. I've tried it and had the usual prop disc / cloud problem.

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Hence "compatible" and not "native" ;)

[skyhawka4m]

IAR 80/81

[euroastar350]

More helicopters then airplanes:173go1:

[Kiwikat]

Another thing that bugs me about requests...why do they always have to be highest quality and best of the best?

Can't we just be happy about having the aircraft in the first place?

To be honest, no. There, I said it. I am not happy when a developer doesn't do an aircraft I like to the best standards out there. It is even worse because there's rarely room for another developer to do it better since the FS market is so small. If someone screws up a payware 172 (for example), there's little/no room for another developer to spend the money and time to make a nice one. The returns just aren't there. So it does excite me when those "highest quality" teams announce projects and show previews, because I know they will be the best.

Note this only applies to payware... and I do vote with my wallet.

[Piglet]

Another thing that bugs me about requests...why do they always have to be highest quality and best of the best?

Well, when ya dream, might as well dream BIG! But it won't neccesarily get your fave plane made..

[tanocapo]

I would love to see a native B737-100/200 for FSX. I know it's not a military aircraft but i love "her".
If we talk about military aircraft i'd like to fly a Gloster Meteor and some soviet aircrafts (really left behind).

Cheers!
Ignacio

[empeck]

If I'd do a MiG-29 with standard aircrft system depth, would you throw it away or happily ignore it?

Depends. If it would be a nice freeware, like Piglets planes I'd be more than happy. If it's payware, I'd ignore it.

[Delta_Whiskey]

somthing that hasn't been done before ! - the supermarine is a lovely example
or some thing that hasn't been done in many many years - so an update is in order.
something unique but not obscure. something ..... something .....

... and yes i'll have to build it myself

[Helldiver]

Ryan ST
Aeronca C-2
Stinson Reliant
Beech Staggerwing
Fairchild
Piper L-2

[Naki]

HD presume you mean Faichild 24? A Staggerwing and Reliant SR-9 would be nice as would a Waco YMF-5

Theres tons more..where do you start...some of these suppose to be in development but heres some:

P-40E/M/N
Sea Fury
F-27-500
Fairchild Metro
Beech Baron (default doesnt count)
BAe J-31
Cessna 402/404/414/421
Piper Aztec
737-200
Lear 35
Saab 340
Cessna 210

[Helldiver]

- And of course the Republic RC-211889 Rainbow

[conork]

Soon.

YAY.....any more info please .......please more info ...please :D

[maguireted]

A very very NICE JU 52 !! Regards Anna

[IanP]

A very very NICE JU 52 !! Regards Anna

Now that is something that is seriously needed for FSX. It's uses cover so much time, so many paints and users in so many areas of the planet...

And I'd be happy with payware, freeware, default quality or better. I've tried porting in the FS9 ones on a number of occasions and always ended up deleting them. The Ju-52/53 range is just an absolute classic.

No. I'm not doing it myself, either. I have my hands full doing far too many other things in this hobby. ;)

As Bjoern and Piglet have both said, though, we have lost a massive amount of talent from the industry since the heydays of mid-FS9. I think the complexity and demands of the current sim put almost all potential developers off, though. You have to have a hide the thickness of an Elder Kodo to put up with this hobby/industry these days, without having at least one toys-out-of-pram incident a week.

(Edited to add: Between reprojecting aerial photos, SBuilderX and ADE9x this week, I think I'm averaging one screaming fit per hour at the moment. You might wish to stand clear. :))

Ian P.

[Helldiver]

I'd give anything to see a Martin B-10, the first all-metal bomber. It flew in many variants with many nations. It was the "Flying Fortress" of it's day. It's the first bomber I ever saw.
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[Odie]

The XF-85 Goblin......another (hint-hint) peculiar plane <HINT-HINT>:icon_lol:

[skyhawka4m]

Depends. If it would be a nice freeware, like Piglets planes I'd be more than happy. If it's payware, I'd ignore it.


wow.....I would gladly pay a fee for piglets work and I think he is more than a talent to our community.

[maguireted]

Now that is something that is seriously needed for FSX. It's uses cover so much time, so many paints and users in so many areas of the planet...Ian P.

HER IANP, I totally agree with you , totally! Best Regards, Anna

[Bjoern]

Note this only applies to payware... and I do vote with my wallet.

Noted and respected. After all, there's money involved.




Well, when ya dream, might as well dream BIG! But it won't neccesarily get your fave plane made..

Who doesn't dream big? ;)

But then again, you'll have to make a break *somewhere* if you've got many other dreams that you want to get done.




I think the complexity and demands of the current sim put almost all potential developers off, though.

*Scratches head*
Complexity? Demands?

From what I've heard doing stuff for FS9 was a near nightmare, with that 4mm vertex welding limit and the ten minutes MakeMDL needed for compiling...:d

It is true that FSX offers a lot of possibilities, - which I have to admit - can be quite overwhelming sometimes and leave you like a lone bloke in a huuuge desert (barebone SDk documentation be thanked!), but as long as you don't want to make money with your stuff no one forces you to actually *use* the new features.
You can perfectly use most of your FS9 modeling knowledge and do FSX aircraft, the only things different is a FSX compilant materials setup and using a tool to declare animations instead just naming your parts with the animation's name. Nothing more, nothing less. Everything else is, as I've said, completely optional.




wow.....I would gladly pay a fee for piglets work

DON'T give him ideas.

I find the payware/freeware ratio for FSX already fairly bad. No need to tip it off some more.

[SADT]

Too true.......

[IanP]

Forces and demands are different things, as I'm sure you're aware, Bjoern. ;)

Reading around the FS sites at the moment, the moment a new aircraft is announced, people are complaining about the size of rivets on bump maps, that the gauges absolutely have to be modelled 3d, not .gau files, absolutely every new technique that any new developer has used... Without a word of a lie, I have seen people demanding that freeware aircraft have Accu-Sim levels of system complexity the day they are announced.

Imagine what someone who is thinking of starting modelling thinks when they see that, and look at how much extra work there is in doing an FSX model compared to the one they started and never finished in FS98, or 2002, or whatever...

You've now got sound cones and modelled lights and inbuilt effects and whereas people were happy with a door that opened in previous versions, they now want the inside of the engine cowling modelled and the cover removable. They want every little ding, dent and air inlet modelled and labelled in massive texture sheets (which they then have to halve in size to run the sim smoothly. ;))

Most of them don't have the amount of drive and dedication that the established developers simply have to have, so they fall by the wayside.

I do think it's a pity, but I know for a fact that it is happening.

The same applies to the payware v freeware argument. A few years ago, you could model an aircraft in a week if you were dedicated or a month if you took your time. Now look at the lead time on even comparatively simple models...

You don't have to do it all, no. But there are very vocal people out there who demand that you do.

Ian P.

[Bjoern]

Forces and demands are different things, as I'm sure you're aware, Bjoern. ;)

Yeah yeah, demands and thick wallets are a dangerous combination...


Reading around the FS sites at the moment, the moment a new aircraft is announced, people are complaining about the size of rivets on bump maps, that the gauges absolutely have to be modelled 3d, not .gau files, absolutely every new technique that any new developer has used... Without a word of a lie, I have seen people demanding that freeware aircraft have Accu-Sim levels of system complexity the day they are announced.

Question number two upon me presenting my freeware Do-328 for the first time:

"Will it have a FMS?"

That'd be the point where I usually tell the asker politely to f+++ off.
Just because it has been done once doesn't mean it's the new industry standard.


Imagine what someone who is thinking of starting modelling thinks when they see that, and look at how much extra work there is in doing an FSX model compared to the one they started and never finished in FS98, or 2002, or whatever...

That's why people encourage need to be encouraged to start modeling regardless of the quality of the outcome.

There's a ton of addons out there that would fall short of the "quality standard" but the developers do them nonetheless. Because they can and they want to.
And I really respect them for doing "their thing" without any ouside voices throwing them off course.


But there are very vocal people out there who demand that you do.

As I've said: Insane demand from someone = "F+++ off" from me. ;)

[Helldiver]

So this thread shows the evidence of the relatively young members of SOH. The older airplanes, that is those before WWII, are completey forgotten. We went from the Wright Brothers Flyer to a Beech Debonair or a Lockheed T-33, Not much in between except for WWII fighters that have been done to death.

[PRB]

Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Douglas B-18 Bolo
Vought SB2U Vindicator (a.k.a., "Wind Indicator")

That's all I want.

And a Bristol Beaufort. But that's it.

Ok, all those, a Bristol Beaufort, and P-2 Neptune. But that's all I need, really.

And maybe a B-25C...

(and this lamp...)

[Rezabrya]

I would love to see a Stinson Reliant SR-9F. My uncle owns one of these and it really is a gem of a plane.

[icarus]

Beech Staggerwing

making one...external model finished.

[Mongo]

- An updated Piper Meridian with glass panel.
- An updated Mooney Acclaim.
- A payware quality Falcon 7X and Gulfstream.

[expat]

A payware quality Falcon 7X and Gulfstream.

My number one request as well for sheer performance and long range fantasy globe trotting. Shame the FSD Jetstar bit the dust but an FSX G-5 or Falcon 7x with all the trimmings would fill a big gap. There should be a way to get 'round the silly IP law issues (negotiate a reasonable payware royalty or do it as freeware in another name).

The well known "over done" planes have already been mentioned. There also are many requests for planes that in my own view - this is where it becomes subjective and one's personal preference - that already exist and are probably "good enough."

[SADT]

Hi Expat,

The major problem with making the Gulfstream under another name is the that Gulfstream have also trademarked the profile of their jets, so you could make one: it just wouldn't look like a Gulfstream.

[alain0568]

hello,



-Douglas Havoc:jump:
-Lockheed P2v Neptune
-RF 84



Alain

-

[Dag]

Hi,

A lot is missing but I sorely miss an F-104G/TF-104G and an F-84E/G Thunderjet or an F/RF-84F Thunderstreak/Thunderflash.

Thanks

[bstolle]

I know, I have just started the Do 27, but the F-84F is very high on my list. Most probably the next one. In fact if the cockpit wouldn't be that crowded it could have been the first one for FSX....

[Paul K]

Hence "compatible" and not "native" ;)

Sorry to be a pedant, but if there's a problem ( and there is ), it isn't even compatible. I understand the definition of 'native' and 'compatible' in the context of FSX add-ons.

Milton Shupe's FS9 Spartan and Beech 18 have been worked on to make them 'compatible' with FSX/SP2, and they are flawless as far as I can tell. The Cal Classics C-46 has the usual prop disc texture problem, so by definition is not compatible.

Still the best C-46 yet, however, and one of the aircraft that has me remembering FS9 with great fondness

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[expat]

Hi Expat,

The major problem with making the Gulfstream under another name is the that Gulfstream have also trademarked the profile of their jets, so you could make one: it just wouldn't look like a Gulfstream.

Understood - thanks - but then wonder why, e.g., this is possible:



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[kilo delta]

Sorry to be a pedant, but if there's a problem ( and there is ), it isn't even compatible. I understand the definition of 'native' and 'compatible' in the context of FSX add-ons.

Milton Shupe's FS9 Spartan and Beech 18 have been worked on to make them 'compatible' with FSX/SP2, and they are flawless as far as I can tell. The Cal Classics C-46 has the usual prop disc texture problem, so by definition is not compatible.

Still the best C-46 yet, however, and one of the aircraft that has me remembering FS9 with great fondness

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I understand what you're saying,Paul. The prop/cloud and canopy/autogen issue is the main reason that I rarely ever fly FS9 propeller driven aircraft and FS9 Helicopter ports in FSX. Milton's Spartan and Beech 18 were recompiled using the FSX SDK which make them "native" FSX (at least in my mind). Granted, they weren't designed from the ground up to fully exploit the possiblities of the newer Sim, but they won't suffer from the prop/cloud issue either. An added bonus is that they'll generally be easier on frames too compared to portovers. :)

[Helldiver]

Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Douglas B-18 Bolo
Vought SB2U Vindicator (a.k.a., "Wind Indicator")

I'll go with what PRB is having, - thanks.

[doublecool]

:salute:FOLLAND GNAT
:salute:YAK 18

[Paul K]

I understand what you're saying,Paul. The prop/cloud and canopy/autogen issue is the main reason that I rarely ever fly FS9 propeller driven aircraft and FS9 Helicopter ports in FSX. Milton's Spartan and Beech 18 were recompiled using the FSX SDK which make them "native" FSX (at least in my mind). Granted, they weren't designed from the ground up to fully exploit the possiblities of the newer Sim, but they won't suffer from the prop/cloud issue either. An added bonus is that they'll generally be easier on frames too compared to portovers. :)

Kilo, I wonder if, given the relative paucity of FSX freeware when compared to the quantity available for FS9, this recompiling of high-end FS9 models could be a new 'growth industry' ?

This thread is about aircraft missing in FSX, and under different circumstances, the list would have undoubtedly included a Spartan Executive and Beech 18. I can think of several more excellent FS9 aircraft that will probably never be modelled again, but could be given a new lease of life by the experts.

I hope such experts are out there and reading this. Might even be worth starting a new thread on the subject, once this one has run it's course. ;)

[tracyq144]

Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Douglas B-18 Bolo
Vought SB2U Vindicator (a.k.a., "Wind Indicator")

That's all I want.

And a Bristol Beaufort. But that's it.

Ok, all those, a Bristol Beaufort, and P-2 Neptune. But that's all I need, really.

And maybe a B-25C...

(and this lamp...)

LOL! Thanks for that!

[Prowler1111]

Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Douglas B-18 Bolo
Vought SB2U Vindicator (a.k.a., "Wind Indicator")

That's all I want.

And a Bristol Beaufort. But that's it.

Ok, all those, a Bristol Beaufort, and P-2 Neptune. But that's all I need, really.

And maybe a B-25C...

(and this lamp...)

Well, i can say that at least 2 of that list are being researched for production, by our novel developer that will debut with the Helldiver.

Prowler

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[Bjoern]

My number one request as well for sheer performance and long range fantasy globe trotting.

Will a Global Express for free also do the trick?

From Rich Schwertfeger and Bill Leaming (the latter of Eaglesoft fame); Avsim and Flightsim.




Kilo, I wonder if, given the relative paucity of FSX freeware when compared to the quantity available for FS9, this recompiling of high-end FS9 models could be a new 'growth industry' ?

Get me the source files and I'll go on a conversion spree (provided the plane is of use to me as well).

All that matters are the GMax files, nothing more, nothing less. Assign new materials, tag the animations FSX style, tweak the model here and there and a FS9 aircraft will start a new life as FSX native.

[PRB]

Well, i can say that at least 2 of that list are being researched for production, by our novel developer that will debut with the Helldiver.

Prowler

Well, that certainly is interesting... :jump:

[kilo delta]

Get me the source files and I'll go on a conversion spree (provided the plane is of use to me as well).

All that matters are the GMax files, nothing more, nothing less. Assign new materials, tag the animations FSX style, tweak the model here and there and a FS9 aircraft will start a new life as FSX native.

Yep..you'd need the source files to recompile the models in the FSX SDK.

Some source files available for free from Simviation (http://www.simviation.com/adoptfsc.htm) I'd be quite interested in the Spitfire MkIX Trainer...wouldn't need a vc as I could transplant another one ;) :)

Many more available on www.freeflightdesign.org

[Paul K]

Get me the source files and I'll go on a conversion spree (provided the plane is of use to me as well).

Bjoern, Milton has said in the past that his FS9 Dash 7 is open for development by anyone who can take it further. I think most previous owners who've now moved on to FSX would dearly love to have it back.

[Bjoern]

Bjoern, Milton has said in the past that his FS9 Dash 7 is open for development by anyone who can take it further. I think most previous owners who've now moved on to FSX would dearly love to have it back.

I think I had talked with Milton about the Dash around the time FSNorthwest released their native versions of the Howard and Spartan. Anyways, Milton said that it was worked on by someone and that he'd throw out the source files after that work was finished.
I think it was general model updates and updates to the gauges (which would be mandatory since the 7's engine starter is useless in FSX).

Haven't heard anything ever since 'though.

[pilottj]

Many good choices listed above,
'missing eras' for sure the golden age racing era both seaplanes and land racers. This era also allows for some creativity with some 'what if' designs.

Long range biz jets are also missing. I know Gulfstream will not likely happen but I know Aerosoft is working on a CRJ, so perhaps it's cousin the Global Express could see FS someday. Like the racers this is a field where a 'what if' design would fit. Maybe Bill may have some creative ideas of his own down the road. I still think the swingwing bizjet from Tintin's Flight 714 comic would be an intersting bird to explore.

I wonder if it would be possible for Milton's design team to share their extensive Howard research data with maybe A2A and we could eventually see an Accusimed Howard 500 :) It's uniqueness, beauty, performance were quite special and I think was one of the defining planes for FS9. FSNorthwest did a beautiful job bringing it to FSX. Taking it to the 'ultimate' level would be absolutely amazing.

Cheers
TJ

[XLR8]

I think it would be neat to do something a little diffrent . I mean when I was a kid I just thought the world of Revels look into the future. With planes like these .

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/concept_aircraft.htm

[stormtrooper271]

I also would love to see more golden age aircraft, including some more warbirds from that era. I would also like to see more early jets, especially more naval aviation jets, when different navies were experimenting with new designs such as angled flight decks and methods for getting planes from the ship to the air.

[Chris Sykes]

A few aircraft i think are missing are in no particular order;

P-3/EP-3 Series
MC-130 WC-130 and Snoopy Hercs
Sea Harrier FRS1/2 + Harrier GR All Mks + Twins
EE Lightning
Shackleton
Mosqueto
Canberra
Buccaneer (Waiting for the one being Dev'd)
SA Buldog + Grob Tutor + Viking + Vigilant
Chinook (Heli)
Puma (Another Heli)
VC-10
HS Dominie/125
Almost every USSR Military aircraft!

[Hurricane91]

The Boeing 299/YB-17, B17 B/C/D.
Heinkle 70 A/B/C.

[CheckSix]

F-100 and F/RF-101 (as mentioned), F-105F and G, EE Frightnings F2, F6 and T5, Buccaneer (as mentioned and in dev) HP Victor K1 / K2, F/RF-8 Crusader, Fiat G91, F-7F Tigercat, Supermarine Spiteful and late mark (low back) Spitfires... The list goes on... :)

Edit: Not forgetting the A-1E ... Please... Piglet :) :) :)

[Bjoern]

Global Express could see FS someday.

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Zat vill do, ja?

[UKMIL]

A few aircraft i think are missing are in no particular order;


Grob Tutor
Chinook (Heli)
Puma (Another Heli)



these threads often make me laugh, as these peeps know we already have them, although freeware, and not payware top quality, I defy anyone to get a better free one for FSX!

at UKMIL we have already made TRUE FSX models of those above, espec the chinook, you will not find a better one anywhere, for zero cost

[skyhawka4m]

A few aircraft i think are missing are in no particular order;

P-3/EP-3 Series
MC-130 WC-130 and Snoopy Hercs



I too like the "secret ops" variants of these types. So many cool looking C-130 variants....and being a former P-3 aircrewman...I'd love to see a native P-3 series.

[CheckSix]

Edited out.

[Ditchdigger]

Boeing 314, this would be next to impossible to accomplish well, but would love for one of the heavy hitters to take a crack at it.
Edit: +1 on the P-3

[heywooood]

Curtiss Seagull

Curtiss SOC-1 (or -4)

Curtiss Robin

Felixstowe F.2A

Ford Tri-motor

Fairchild 24 with Warner radial

Fairchild Fc-2

Bristol Bulldog

[crashaz]

Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Douglas B-18 Bolo
Vought SB2U Vindicator (a.k.a., "Wind Indicator")

That's all I want.

And a Bristol Beaufort. But that's it.

Ok, all those, a Bristol Beaufort, and P-2 Neptune. But that's all I need, really.

And maybe a B-25C...

(and this lamp...)

Wow we are eerily on the same page... I would substitute only the Beaufort for a Kate. :jump:

TBD and B-25 up first in my mind.

Love the Wind Indicator choice.... have a good book on it too!

[stormtrooper271]

Curtiss C-46 Commando

Brewster Buffalo

Grumman F2F or F3F

Fairchild C-123 Provider

F-8 Crusader

And probably what I want the most...Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar

[Daycab]

I think there is WAY too much emphasis these days on military planes. Yes, I know they are fast and beautiful, but there how many different Mustangs, Corsairs, Spitfires, and F-16's do you need?

For those who mentioned Golden Age racers, this is a few months off yet, but when the package is released, I think you'll be pleased...


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/kdryan/Aircraft/Travel%20Air%20Mystery%20Ship%20Project/R613K/tamschev3.jpg

[falcon409]

Well, here's the list to this point, I may have missed a few buried in longer posts, but really. . .going back to what Piglett eluded to. . .modelers are in short demand, how many of these seriously will ever see the virtual skies?
A6m series
Hawker Sea Fury
P-80/T-33/Seastar
EE Lightning
Falcon 10
Hawker H25B
Learjet 23/25
Gulfstream
Hawker sea fury
Douglas B-26K
Sikorsky S-61N
Westland sea king
SH3
Fokker F-27
P2V-5F Neptune
Grumman S-2F Tracker
C1A Trader
T-33A
B-57B/C/E
F-84
F-100
A6M Zero
Mig's 23,27,25,31
Sukhoi Su-17/22,24,25
Tupolev Tu-95
Mil Mi-8,12,17,26
FW 189
DC-3
Junkers F13
Dornier 528/728/928
Boeing 737-100/200/300/400/500
Airbus A318
MiG-23MLD/BN
MiG-21bis
MD-87/90/95
Beech Bonanza A36, not F33 or V35!
Beech Queen Air,
Piper PA32 series,
Mooney M20 Acclaim,
Cessna 210 Centurion,
Early straight-back Cessna 182,
Piper Comanche
Cessna 337 Skymaster
DC-8
Tu-154m
MiG-21F/bis
English Electric Lightning
SR-71
B-29
Su-27
Staggerwing
Howard DGA
Stearman C-4E
Stearman model 6F Cloudboy
Stearman S-76D1 (sure only 6 were ever built but its a Stearman on floats)
Stinson Sr5 Reliant
Ryan STA
Grumman F-3F
Polikarpov I-16, I-15
Great Lakes 2T-1A
F-100D or F
DC-3, DC-8 (Accusimmed)
F-4B Phantom II, and F-4RC
English Electric Lightning F6
Dornier 528
P-40 Accusimmed
Korean War F-51 (Accusimmed)
F-80
Fully FSX F-86
Gloster E-28
Fokker F28 MK 1000C
TBM Avenger
Panther
Spitfire(accusim)
B-29
A-26
PB4Y Privateer
Convair 880
F-86H
OA-37B Dragonfly
Vickers Wellesley
Cessna Corvalis
RV-8
IL-2 Sturmovik
P-26
F-22 Raptor
B-2 Bomber
Noorduyn C-64 Norseman
Supermarine S.6B
Curtiss C-46 Commando
Tornado Gr4
B737-100/200
Ryan ST
Aeronca C-2
Stinson Reliant
Beech Staggerwing
Fairchild
Piper L-2
P-40E/M/N
Sea Fury
F-27-500
Fairchild Metro
Beech Baron (default doesnt count)
BAe J-31
Cessna 402/404/414/421
Piper Aztec
737-200
Lear 35
Saab 340
Cessna 210
Republic RC-2
JU 52
Martin B-10
XF-85 Goblin
Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Douglas B-18 Bolo
Vought SB2U Vindicator
Bristol Beaufort
Stinson Reliant SR-9F
Piper Meridian
Mooney Acclaim
Falcon 7X
Douglas Havoc
Lockheed P2v Neptune
RF 84
F-104G/TF-104G
F-84E/G Thunderjet
F/RF-84F Thunderstreak/Thunderflash
P-3/EP-3 Series
MC-130 WC-130 and Snoopy Hercs
Sea Harrier FRS1/2 + Harrier GR All Mks + Twins
EE Lightning
Shackleton
Mosqueto
Canberra
Buccaneer (Waiting for the one being Dev'd)
SA Buldog + Grob Tutor + Viking + Vigilant
Chinook (Heli)
Puma (Another Heli)
VC-10
HS Dominie/125
Curtiss Seagull
Curtiss SOC-1 (or -4)
Curtiss Robin
Felixstowe F.2A
Ford Tri-motor
Fairchild 24 with Warner radial
Fairchild Fc-2
Bristol Bulldog
Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar

[spatialpro]

That is a HUGE list!

What would be great is some means of having a table where modellers, FDE writers and guage coders (aircraft name + 3 additional columns) could add their name as a means of Expression of Interest (EoI). If an aircraft gets EoI from all three types of designer you've got yourself a team, they make contact and magic can happen...!

... or am I just a crazy, naive madman?!

Andy

[Bjoern]

For those who mentioned Golden Age racers, this is a few months off yet, but when the package is released, I think you'll be pleased...

If you're the developer of this one: Hi Kevin! :d




Saab 340


Been done...twice. One compatible, one native.




What would be great is some means of having a table where modellers, FDE writers and guage coders (aircraft name + 3 additional columns) could add their name as a means of Expression of Interest (EoI). If an aircraft gets EoI from all three types of designer you've got yourself a team, they make contact and magic can happen...!

An EoI system is cool, but (at least for me) somehow based on my daily mood. Say I might want this aircraft in FSX at one point, but once the team is complete I might have lost interest completely since it took way too long.

[Daycab]

That's me. I need to change my forum name to something more familiar. :wavey:

Every airplane on that list can be found here: http://www.turbosquid.com/gmax

[peter12213]

Crusader
Foland Gnat
SU27 (Variants)
Mig 29 (Hopefully from Lotus in the Future)
SU25T
SU17 Fitter
Mig19
Sepecat Jaguar
Hawker Seahawk
HARRIER (Coming soon???)
Short Sturgeon TT.Mk2
Blackburn Skua
SB2U Vindicator
Hindustan HF-24 Marut (Kurt Tank)
Twin Pioneer
Blackburn Beverley
Fa-223

The list is endless really!

[srgalahad]

Well, here's the list to this point, I may have missed a few buried in longer posts, but really. . .going back to what Piglett eluded to. . .modelers are in short demand, how many of these seriously will ever see the virtual skies?



Well.... about 150 on the list so far... let's assume an average of 7 active developers that can meet the "minimum acceptable standards" of the 'customers' (including those who don't crap on the freeware offerings) and producing an average of 4 models a year each (WHEW!!!) that still puts us into mid-2016 (and the list will grow).

Of course, there may be some duplications, some that are (to quote the more discerning critics) "crap", a few that are seen as non-viable from a desire/market standpoint and we're still in a building boom for 5 years. Let's hope that the modelers/FDE gurus/testers/etc have some stamina, health and financial resources. Thank goodness there's no imminent "new version" of FS hovering in the marketing department to short circuit the desire to build.

In the 8 years of FS9 we've had a lot of blessings bestowed upon us, not counting the FS2002 models that 'ported over' nicely and filled voids. Now that we apparently must meet higher standards I wonder if, at the same point of FSX's life, will we have the same virtual armada -esp. since the abundance of willing freeware builders just isn't there.

I wonder how many customers have an accurate idea of the sheer number of hours it takes to build one decent FSX model -one that not only LOOKS correct but FLIES properly - research (including travel in some cases), acquiring plans (and perhaps licenses), poly-bending, setting materials, compiling, then testing, painting (at least one), more testing, writing documentation, setting up sales (or uploading if freeware), dealing with honest service issues (and ones from customers who don't know there's a read-me and a/c manual). Oh, and then there's the kids' soccer game, or the garden, or the car repairs, or the hospital visits and likely a computer upgrade/repair... and maybe a vacation thrown in. Not to mention holding down a real job that pays bills... Some are teams, but some are solo efforts. The solo has to answer only to himself, while a team effort also has to manage communication, differing opinions, getting the bits coming in on schedule. But then, they do it for fun, right?

I hear all the dedicated customers comments, praise, insults and often think how hard it is for them.. get credit card from wallet, go online, order, download, install... I bet a dedicated consumer could stay under 24 hours to get all 150 planes if they so choose.

I realize the empowerment consumers feel, but, considering the odds, it might be good to begin every request with "Please", every comment or 'error-report' with "I'm sorry, but I think there may be an error in...", and every release announcement with "Thank you so much".

Rob

[heywooood]

I think there is WAY too much emphasis these days on military planes. Yes, I know they are fast and beautiful, but there how many different Mustangs, Corsairs, Spitfires, and F-16's do you need?

For those who mentioned Golden Age racers, this is a few months off yet, but when the package is released, I think you'll be pleased...


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/kdryan/Aircraft/Travel%20Air%20Mystery%20Ship%20Project/R613K/tamschev3.jpg


I'm already pleased looking at the work done on this project...

[heywooood]

I realize the empowerment consumers feel, but, considering the odds, it might be good to begin every request with "Please", every comment or 'error-report' with "I'm sorry, but I think there may be an error in...", and every release announcement with "Thank you so much".

Rob


lets just say I agree with all of the above and that it is well said

[Piglet]

Falcon
You know how long it would take me to build thru your list!?! Doesn't matter anyways, the Sun will super-nova before then.

[falcon409]

Falcon
You know how long it would take me to build thru your list!?! Doesn't matter anyways, the Sun will super-nova before then.
Hey Tim, lol, lol, I hope you know that isn't my list, just a combined list of all the suggestions up til now, lol. Phew, I don't even know what 2/3's of those aircraft are, lol.:salute:

[heywooood]

there are a couple of repeats in the list - Staggerwing is in there a couple of times for one...

I had to check Google images to see what a few of them were ...haha

with m/S out of the way we seem to have far more time to see a good number of these planes made for FSX - at least that is how I hope it pans out

[heywooood]

Falcon
You know how long it would take me to build thru your list!?! Doesn't matter anyways, the Sun will super-nova before then.

judging by what we've seen of your production rate so far Tim...we just assumed you would have all of these half made already in your sock drawer and could just finish em off one a month when ever you had a couple free afternoons ....no ?

[Bjoern]

That's me. I need to change my forum name to something more familiar. :wavey:

A PM to the admins will (have to) do the trick here. (I think.)


Every airplane on that list can be found here: http://www.turbosquid.com/gmax

Ehehehehehehe. :d




Falcon
You know how long it would take me to build thru your list!?! Doesn't matter anyways, the Sun will super-nova before then.

Considering I'm spending my third year on my 328 a supernova won't do the trick for me. More of two to three universe compression-expansion cycles.

[Paul K]

Another wish....


1223612237

[stormtrooper271]

Another wish....


1223612237

I second that wish of yours Paul, I would really love to see one of these birds fly in FSX.

[Deano]

I'm pleased to confirm that the C47 / DC3 is now in development, we should have some dev shots available shortly, I'm hoping the development of this wonderful aircraft will bring some smiles.

[warchild]

anyone up for doing the AC-119K version of that flying box car?? Two truths stand out about it ( besides it saving so many of our butts ). it was easily the most macho plane in the war ( see image ) and the north vietnamese army was issued standing orders to not fire upon it as they did not want " to piss off the dragon"
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Fairchild-AC-119K-Stinger/0672472/L/

[alpine]

Hi,Dean

I´m hesetating to ask, but is the Vertigo Tigercat dead? Missed I something? Other plans...

Cheers, Thilo

[Dain Arns]

This.
1932 Waco QDC....
(Or a Beech Staggerwing) :d

[Deano]

Hi Alpine, our tigercat has been shelved until further notice.

As far as Im aware I know theres a freeware Tigercat in development, maybe someone from around here may know a little more..


Hi,Dean

I´m hesetating to ask, but is the Vertigo Tigercat dead? Missed I something? Other plans...

Cheers, Thilo

[dominique]

an Accusimed Antonov-2 biplane freighter .

[kilo delta]

an Accusimed Antonov-2 biplane freighter .


The nicest biplane I ever had the opportunity to throw myself out of! :d

[crashaz]

These threads come along periodically and they drive me mad as you know what they say....

if you can't wait do it yourself....

which means digging in the ol' toolbox.


so I started doing some research.

[Deano]

These threads come along periodically and they drive me mad as you know what they say....

if you can't wait do it yourself....

which means digging in the ol' toolbox.


so I started doing some research.

We can step down from this one now then Crashaz :-)

[crashaz]

Whoa whoa... I would not do that! :redface:

I want to see a B/C model...


please have at it... I can go find something else to do! LOL!
:wavey:

[heywooood]

I'm pleased to confirm that the C47 / DC3 is now in development, we should have some dev shots available shortly, I'm hoping the development of this wonderful aircraft will bring some smiles.

ahhh....here ya go :)

[alpine]

Hi Alpine, our tigercat has been shelved until further notice.

As far as Im aware I know theres a freeware Tigercat in development, maybe someone from around here may know a little more..Hi, Dean, sad to hear. The freeware Tigercat is of course done by Milton Shupe, but it´s fs9...
As non native speaker I´m fascinated by your term "shelved", I have to check my own shelves, there are some AMT quarterscale kits around lol...

Cheers, Thilo

[Deano]

Shelved = put on hold for possible future completion.

[pilottj]

I left a suggestion for Mathias at Classic Hangars. The Do-335 Pfeil would be quite an exotic and amazing bird. She may not be as beautiful as the Dora or Butcherbird but such an an advanced airplane, way ahead of its time...and its fast:jump:

12526 (http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gregboyington/Skins/Do-335/Do-335%20nightfighters.jpg)

Cheers
TJ

[michael davies]

And !, in alphabetical order, those in red I know are in production, there producer (where allowed to be made public) follows, I am sure many others are also in production but will be in areas of flight I tend not to follow.

Best

Michael



A6m series<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
A-26<o:p></o:p>
Aeronca C-2<o:p></o:p>
Airbus A318 Aerosoft have a stunning A320 due shortly, highly unlikely anyone will do the A318 now<o:p></o:p>
Avro Shackleton<o:p></o:p>
B-2 Bomber<o:p></o:p>
B-29<o:p></o:p>
B-57B/C/E<o:p></o:p>
BAe J-31<o:p></o:p>
Beech Baron (default doesnt count)<o:p></o:p>
Beech Bonanza A36, not F33 or V35!<o:p></o:p>
Beech Staggerwing<o:p></o:p>
Beech Queen Air,<o:p></o:p>
Boeing 737-100/200/300/400/500<o:p></o:p>
Brewster F2A Buffalo<o:p></o:p>
Bristol Beaufort<o:p></o:p>
Bristol Bulldog<o:p></o:p>
Buccaneer (Waiting for the one being Dev'd) http://www.flyingstations.com/ (http://www.flyingstations.com/)<o:p></o:p>
Canberra http://www.flyingstations.com/ (http://www.flyingstations.com/)<o:p></o:p>
Cessna 210 Centurion,<o:p></o:p>
Cessna 182, Early straight back<o:p></o:p>
Cessna 337 Skymaster<o:p></o:p>
Cessna 402/404/414/421<o:p></o:p>
Cessna Corvalis <o:p></o:p>
Chinook (Heli) Milviz/Nemeth<o:p></o:p>
Convair 880<o:p></o:p>
Curtiss C-46 Commando<o:p></o:p>
Curtiss Seagull<o:p></o:p>
Curtiss SOC-1 (or -4)<o:p></o:p>
Curtiss Robin<o:p></o:p>
DC-3 Accusimmed<o:p></o:p>
DC-8 Accusimmed<o:p></o:p>
Dornier 528/728/928<o:p></o:p>
Douglas B-18 Bolo<o:p></o:p>
Douglas B-26K<o:p></o:p>
Douglas Havoc<o:p></o:p>
Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.<o:p></o:p>
EE Lightning<o:p></o:p>
Falcon 10<o:p></o:p>
Fokker F-27<o:p></o:p>
Fokker F28 MK 1000C<o:p></o:p>
FW 189<o:p></o:p>
F-4B Phantom II, and F-4RC<o:p></o:p>
F-22 Raptor<o:p></o:p>
F-27-500<o:p></o:p>
F-51 Korean war (Accusimmed)<o:p></o:p>
F-80<o:p></o:p>
F-84E/G Thunderjet<o:p></o:p>
F/RF-84F Thunderstreak/Thunderflash<o:p></o:p>
F-86 Full FSX<o:p></o:p>
F-86H<o:p></o:p>
F-100D or F<o:p></o:p>
F-104G/TF-104G<o:p></o:p>
Fairchild<o:p></o:p>
Fairchild Metro<o:p></o:p>
Fairchild 24 with Warner radial<o:p></o:p>
Fairchild Republic A-10 Aerosoft<o:p></o:p>
Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar<o:p></o:p>
Fairchild Fc-2<o:p></o:p>
Falcon 7X<o:p></o:p>
Felixstowe F.2A<o:p></o:p>
Ford Tri-motor<o:p></o:p>
Gloster E-28<o:p></o:p>
Great Lakes 2T-1A<o:p></o:p>
Grumman C-1A Trader<o:p></o:p>
Grumman F-3F<o:p></o:p>
Grumman S-2F Tracker<o:p></o:p>
Gulfstream<o:p></o:p>
Hawker H25B<o:p></o:p>
Hawker sea fury<o:p></o:p>
HS Dominie/125<o:p></o:p>
Howard DGA<o:p></o:p>
IL-2 Sturmovik<o:p></o:p>
Junkers F13<o:p></o:p>
JU 52<o:p></o:p>
Learjet 23/25<o:p></o:p>
Lear 35<o:p></o:p>
Lockheed MC-130 WC-130 and Snoopy Hercs<o:p></o:p>
Lockheed P2v Neptune<o:p></o:p>
Lockheed P-3/EP-3 Orion Series<o:p></o:p>
Martin B-10<o:p></o:p>
MD-87/90/95<o:p></o:p>
Mig's 21,23,27,25,31<o:p></o:p>
Mil Mi-8,12,17,26<o:p></o:p>
Mooney M20 Acclaim,<o:p></o:p>
Mosqueto<o:p></o:p>
Noorduyn C-64 Norseman<o:p></o:p>
OA-37B Dragonfly <o:p></o:p>
P-26<o:p></o:p>
P-40 Accusimmed<o:p></o:p>
P-80/T-33/Seastar<o:p></o:p>
Panther<o:p></o:p>
PB4Y Privateer<o:p></o:p>
Piper Aztec<o:p></o:p>
Piper Comanche<o:p></o:p>
Piper L-2 <o:p></o:p>
Piper Meridian<o:p></o:p>
Piper PA32 series,<o:p></o:p>
Polikarpov I-16, I-15<o:p></o:p>
Puma (Another Heli)<o:p></o:p>
Republic RC-2<o:p></o:p>
RV-8<o:p></o:p>
Ryan STA<o:p></o:p>
Ryan ST<o:p></o:p>
Saab 340<o:p></o:p>
SA Buldog + Grob Tutor + Viking + Vigilant<o:p></o:p>
Sea Harrier FRS1/2 + Harrier GR All Mks + Twins<o:p></o:p>
Sikorsky S-61N<o:p></o:p>
SH3<o:p></o:p>
Spitfire(accusim)<o:p></o:p>
SR-71<o:p></o:p>
Stearman C-4E<o:p></o:p>
Stearman model 6F Cloudboy<o:p></o:p>
Stearman S-76D1 (sure only 6 were ever built but its a Stearman on floats)<o:p></o:p>
Stinson Sr5 Reliant<o:p></o:p>
Stinson SR-9F Reliant<o:p></o:p>
Sukhoi Su-17/22,24,25,27<o:p></o:p>
Supermarine S.6B<o:p></o:p>
T-33A<o:p></o:p>
TBM Avenger<o:p></o:p>
Tornado Gr4<o:p></o:p>
Tupolev Tu-95<o:p></o:p>
Tupolev Tu-154m<o:p></o:p>
VC-10<o:p></o:p>
Vickers Wellesley<o:p></o:p>
Vought SB2U Vindicator<o:p></o:p>
Westland sea king Virtavia<o:p></o:p>
XF-85 Goblin

[euroastar350]

Freeware Bell 222 under development.

Bell 222A first. 222B, 222UT and 230 at a later date.

430 not in the books as it requires a re-design of the entire mesh.

FS9 first, FSX native at a later date.

Please check the "Another Community Project thread running in the FS9 forums, there is one here too but doesn't have too many replies as the FS9 topic does.

Still looking for more help, especially a gmax modeler.

[Bjoern]

please have at it... I can go find something else to do! LOL!
:wavey:

MAAM still doesn't have anyone converting their B-25 into a FSX native model, so if you like those airplanes and have enough time, give it a go.

(I was asked, but turned the offer down.)




And !, in alphabetical order, those in red I know are in production, there producer (where allowed to be made public) follows, I am sure many others are also in production but will be in areas of flight I tend not to follow.

Who is doing the 737s??




Still looking for more help, especially a gmax modeler.

Modelers are as rare as priests in the "sexy dessous" department, so you'll really be better off learning GMax and doing it yourself than waiting years for someone doing it for you.

[redfly]

Hey Guys,
I know the mustang have been modeled to death, but how about the P/F82 Twin Mustang? (my avatar should have given you a clue LOL)
Ito-san released a couple for FS9 a few years ago but none have ever been made FSX native,
so I decided to start one being totally FSX SP2/Acceleration compatible. I actually started this when Milton Shupe put together his tutorials for FS9. It's been a 3 year project off and on when the little things like work and real life don't get in the way. Most of the modeling is done now, just starting the paint. It'll have VC's with 3D gauges (in both pits) and eventually will have a F82G version with the radar "dong". The fun part has ben doing all the research for this bird and I was lucky enough to find a reprint of the original USAF parts manual, weight & balance checklist, etc. No promises as to when it will be released, so I won't even mention that dreaded "S" word :icon_eek:

Cheers,
Mark

[crashaz]

That sir is some nice work!

As for the B-25... I am leaning on Dean to take on the B-25C cause. A Vertigo Mitchell would be awesome seeing how they have been delivering us some great warbirds. :engel016:

I could not do the same aircraft any justice.


MAAM's B-25 is a masterpiece but it is a later model B-25 and we need the earlier version to commemorate the Doolittle Raid. We get that one and I will rebuild Task Force 16 for FSX.

[srgalahad]

The Do-335 Pfeil ... such an an advanced airplane, way ahead of its time...and its fast:jump:
12526 (http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gregboyington/Skins/Do-335/Do-335%20nightfighters.jpg)

in a secret hangar somewhere in the wilderness there are parts being assembled...

and at least 3 more from the 'list' that I know of
(putting on tinfoil helmet)
:censored:

[skyhawka4m]

Hey Guys,
I know the mustang have been modeled to death, but how about the P/F82 Twin Mustang? (my avatar should have given you a clue LOL)
Ito-san released a couple for FS9 a few years ago but none have ever been made FSX native,
so I decided to start one being totally FSX SP2/Acceleration compatible. I actually started this when Milton Shupe put together his tutorials for FS9. It's been a 3 year project off and on when the little things like work and real life don't get in the way. Most of the modeling is done now, just starting the paint. It'll have VC's with 3D gauges (in both pits) and eventually will have a F82G version with the radar "dong". The fun part has ben doing all the research for this bird and I was lucky enough to find a reprint of the original USAF parts manual, weight & balance checklist, etc. No promises as to when it will be released, so I won't even mention that dreaded "S" word :icon_eek:

Cheers,
Mark


Let me know if I cna be of help with painting this beauty. I am dying for an F-82.....and there can never be enough Mustangs.

[Bjoern]

...

Looks good so far, very good!

[mal998]

Dean,

If Milton's Tigercat will only be for FS9, then I see no reason for you to move your Tiger too far back on that shelf.... you know how some of us feel about those Grummans! 2 thumbs up goes here... :-)

I would be thrilled to get my hands on a Vertigo-built B-25 "C" model!

BR's,
mal

[SADT]

Hi,

An early Dolittle raid Mitchell B-25B/C would be fantastic!

[Milton Shupe]

Dean,

If Milton's Tigercat will only be for FS9, then I see no reason for you to move your Tiger too far back on that shelf.... you know how some of us feel about those Grummans! 2 thumbs up goes here... :-)
...... snipped ....

BR's,
mal

I agree. Before I started that project, not wanting to step on anyones toes, I asked around if anyone had an F7F WIP. I got no responses on that, so I proceeded.

My part pf the project is to deliver an FS9 F7F, exterior model only. The second modeler was to do the Interior model and set it up for both FS9 and native FSX. If he can free up, I assume that will happen.

But, do not let that stop you if you have one in progress ... the more the merrier I say. :)

[SkippyBing]

The Buccaneer is the priority at the moment, but did someone mention wanting a Sea Fury?

[Naismith]

I am not going to plough through 12 pages of comments so I apologise if these have been listed.
1. BP Defiant
2. An-72
3. An-22

Actually many Russian models could be included here.

4. EE Lightning.

But generally I am grateful for whatever I can get, I have no talent in design.

[bkeske]

Good list by all, but after numorous posts, not sure what has been mentioned, or not....so, sorry if this has been....

As much as I love the DC-3 (MAAM's), I do not believe there is a similar in quality DC-4 available. I used to fly the DC-4 quite often in the FS 5/98 days (along with the DC-3), but it seems to have been somewhat ignored since. I tried Tom Gibson's versions (I think), but no offense, they were fairly outdated by today's standards.

[CG_1976]

More Piglet creations:jump:
A-50
Il-76

[Bjoern]

*Scribbles "F-101B/C" on list*

[Cleartheprop]

I think there is WAY too much emphasis these days on military planes. Yes, I know they are fast and beautiful, but there how many different Mustangs, Corsairs, Spitfires, and F-16's do you need?

For those who mentioned Golden Age racers, this is a few months off yet, but when the package is released, I think you'll be pleased...


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/kdryan/Aircraft/Travel%20Air%20Mystery%20Ship%20Project/R613K/tamschev3.jpg
I'll sign in for this one at once. (looks like the 1929 travel Air Mystery ship). The WIP shot is terrific. Thanks

[Ferry_vO]

I was gonna say a Chinook but I think Milviz is working on one?

Well, one of these would be fantastic too:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Trier_july_2010/IMG_6052.jpg

:d

[raptor19]

BAe (English Electric) Lightning
Vought F-8 Crusader
Hawker Sea Fury
Junkers Ju88

I don't know if any of the above are under development but the list would be a lot longer if I did not know what Vertigo Studios, Classics Hangar, A2A, Just Flight/Aeroplane Heaven, Razbam, etc are already working on. Guess I have to save a bit for the next round of forthcoming releases already!

John N

[bruce448]

CH-34/ S58/ Westland Wessex

[huub vink]

I left a suggestion for Mathias at Classic Hangars. The Do-335 Pfeil would be quite an exotic and amazing bird. She may not be as beautiful as the Dora or Butcherbird but such an an advanced airplane, way ahead of its time...and its fast

This one in Classics Hangar quality would indeed be something to look forward to, however I will already be happy with the upcoming Bf108 Taifun as well.....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Pfeil.jpg

[centuryseries]

Well, here's the list to this point, I may have missed a few buried in longer posts, but really. . .going back to what Piglett eluded to. . .modelers are in short demand, how many of these seriously will ever see the virtual skies?
A6m series
Hawker Sea Fury
P-80/T-33/Seastar
EE Lightning
Falcon 10
Hawker H25B
Learjet 23/25
Gulfstream
Hawker sea fury
Douglas B-26K
Sikorsky S-61N
Westland sea king
SH3
Fokker F-27
P2V-5F Neptune
Grumman S-2F Tracker
C1A Trader
T-33A
B-57B/C/E
F-84
F-100
A6M Zero
Mig's 23,27,25,31
Sukhoi Su-17/22,24,25
Tupolev Tu-95
Mil Mi-8,12,17,26
FW 189
DC-3
Junkers F13
Dornier 528/728/928
Boeing 737-100/200/300/400/500
Airbus A318
MiG-23MLD/BN
MiG-21bis
MD-87/90/95
Beech Bonanza A36, not F33 or V35!
Beech Queen Air,
Piper PA32 series,
Mooney M20 Acclaim,
Cessna 210 Centurion,
Early straight-back Cessna 182,
Piper Comanche
Cessna 337 Skymaster
DC-8
Tu-154m
MiG-21F/bis
English Electric Lightning
SR-71 - FSX native version has been in the Alphasim store for a while
B-29
Su-27 - ALS-Sim Mark Harper posted screenshots the other day!
Staggerwing
Howard DGA
Stearman C-4E
Stearman model 6F Cloudboy
Stearman S-76D1 (sure only 6 were ever built but its a Stearman on floats)
Stinson Sr5 Reliant
Ryan STA
Grumman F-3F
Polikarpov I-16, I-15
Great Lakes 2T-1A
F-100D or F
DC-3, DC-8 (Accusimmed)
F-4B Phantom II, and F-4RC
English Electric Lightning F6
Dornier 528
P-40 Accusimmed
Korean War F-51 (Accusimmed)
F-80
Fully FSX F-86 - Alphasim has a fully FSX Sabre
Gloster E-28
Fokker F28 MK 1000C
TBM Avenger
Panther
Spitfire(accusim)
B-29
A-26
PB4Y Privateer
Convair 880
F-86H
OA-37B Dragonfly
Vickers Wellesley
Cessna Corvalis
RV-8
IL-2 Sturmovik
P-26
F-22 Raptor
B-2 Bomber
Noorduyn C-64 Norseman
Supermarine S.6B
Curtiss C-46 Commando
Tornado Gr4
B737-100/200
Ryan ST
Aeronca C-2
Stinson Reliant
Beech Staggerwing
Fairchild
Piper L-2
P-40E/M/N
Sea Fury
F-27-500
Fairchild Metro
Beech Baron (default doesnt count)
BAe J-31
Cessna 402/404/414/421
Piper Aztec
737-200
Lear 35
Saab 340
Cessna 210
Republic RC-2
JU 52
Martin B-10
XF-85 Goblin
Douglas TBD-1 Devastaror.
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Douglas B-18 Bolo
Vought SB2U Vindicator
Bristol Beaufort
Stinson Reliant SR-9F
Piper Meridian
Mooney Acclaim
Falcon 7X
Douglas Havoc
Lockheed P2v Neptune
RF 84
F-104G/TF-104G
F-84E/G Thunderjet
F/RF-84F Thunderstreak/Thunderflash
P-3/EP-3 Series
MC-130 WC-130 and Snoopy Hercs
Sea Harrier FRS1/2 + Harrier GR All Mks + Twins
EE Lightning
Shackleton
Mosqueto
Canberra - Alphasim already has an FSX native Canberra
Buccaneer (Waiting for the one being Dev'd)
SA Buldog + Grob Tutor + Viking + Vigilant
Chinook (Heli)
Puma (Another Heli)
VC-10
HS Dominie/125
Curtiss Seagull
Curtiss SOC-1 (or -4)
Curtiss Robin
Felixstowe F.2A
Ford Tri-motor
Fairchild 24 with Warner radial
Fairchild Fc-2
Bristol Bulldog
Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar

Are you saying you want new versions? Or do you not know about these others?!! :jump:

[centuryseries]

Yes, definitely an SR -71
;)

You know there's an FSX native Alphasim SR-71 with a decent flight model?

[krazycolin]

We are indeed working on a Chinook and some of the others on that list, including a Zero.

[CWOJackson]

Boeing Model 314, the pinnacle of trans-continental air travel before WWII. This is the one aircraft type/period that isn't represented by a solid package for FSX.

[PRB]

Boeing Model 314, the pinnacle of trans-continental air travel before WWII. This is the one aircraft type/period that isn't represented by a solid package for FSX.

Ditto on the 314! It would look great next to the Martin 130 by JBK.