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Skyblazer100
September 30th, 2008, 07:07
Hello everyone, sorry that I haven't contributed in such a long time but I have just been reading and learning here.
Well, here's my problem: I have been using for years a German virus scanner ANTI VIR personal which is reputed to be an effective, albeit sometimes too "picky" scanner. I have regularly downloaded - some even years ago - free Alpha Sim aircraft as well as those AlphaSim jets recently adapted by Tango Romeo. They all ran fine (and still do) until about three weeks ago when this scanner aftre an update indicated that most Alpha Sim MDL.files are infected by a trojan horse they call TR/Dropper.Gen. In my Korean campagin almost all AI aircraft mdl files (e.g. F1_AI_B-29, F-82, F-84, TU-2, F-84 to name just a few) are affected as well.
Is this by any chance a known issue in the community? By computer is acting normally, a scan with the MS malware removal tool or ad-aware showed nothing bad.
Another indication that there might be no real problem after all seems to me that I have saved my CFS2 files on DVDs, some several years old also. And when I checked the files saved there it also indicated malware, which rules out any recent infection on my computer HDD.
I have reported this to the ANTIVIR people, they insist that it contains malware criteria.

Superdad
September 30th, 2008, 07:21
Both Sophos and McAffee indicate its discovery was last week.
That probably rules out your DVDs of some years back.. and the Alpha_ models from the past.

Most likely a False Alarm, I'd say.

SD

bearcat241
September 30th, 2008, 07:26
I have reported this to the ANTIVIR people, they insist that it contains malware criteria.

Naturally they will say this in defense their highly rated product. But (A) having 'malware criteria' isn't necessary the evidence of true malware (could be a false positive) and (B) if they're really on point here, they should be willing to pass the details of such criteria to you so you can forward it to the vendors for their edification and correction. It could be something as simple as a harmless proprietary Alphasim signature tag in the mdl hex code that closely resembles code in known malware.

One way to avoid this is by keeping sims and game programs on separate internal drives or partitions:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=351

miamieagle
September 30th, 2008, 08:54
Wecome to the forum!:jump:

miamieagle
September 30th, 2008, 09:01
Here is a post that has many Links to Website that are dedicated to this Sim.http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/ya...1117604819/all (http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1117604819/all)

Not all links are working but most are. Read it from page one to the last since it not only has Links to Websites dedicate to this Sim but many it also has many tips on how to improve your flying experience thru this Sim.

If you have any question come back here and we as a community will help along.:wavey:

Tango_Romeo
September 30th, 2008, 17:58
As the person who assembled the Fox Four files and the Tango_Romeo mods to some AlphaSim models, I can assure you that none of the models contain a virus or trojan-dropper. I run several heavy-duty commercial AV/SW programs that would have caught anything amiss. Plus, SimV and SOH maintain very strong AV screening practices.

'Too Picky' is not a good definition of the message you are seeing....it's more like 'Not Detailed Enough'. Several AV programs have a very loose definition of virus/sw files......and most throw an indication that a file 'maybe an undesirable file' without any real grounds to do so.

For example, all of the Fox Four files were originally part of 'self-extracting zip' files (self-installers). Which means that the files probably retain a 'tag' indicating that.....and any indication that a file has been associated with an executable file (such as a self-extractor) can be interpreted as suspicious.

As a caveat, I can't speak for the security of any of our/my files that have been uploaded at pirate sites....and there are some out there.

And BTW..... welcome to the Outhouse! :wavey:

Tango_Romeo
September 30th, 2008, 18:03
....all of the files mentioned probably contain email links, as well as links to the producer's website. These links are actually being interpreted as 'suspicious' by some of the less detailed scanners. :kilroy:

Skyblazer100
October 1st, 2008, 00:52
Thank you very much for your quick responses. Especially the fact that some of TR's files (that I have used and enjoyed from the first days of the F-86 Sabre campaign and where we solved the "German helo problem" together) were indicated convinces me that this must be a false alarm. Furthermore the Defense of Australia files with the P-40 Schuftie is included as well as the Just Flight Pearl Harbor Campaign. Over the weekend my daughter who is a computer programmer will be here and I'll have her check this over with her professional virus scanning tools. I'll let you know about to outcome.

Skyblazer100
October 30th, 2008, 08:56
Hello everyone,

my virus scanner had a big engine update and, guess what, the alleged virus warnings are gone completely, they were false warnings as I had presumed all along. I am posting this just in case anyone was worrying about AlphaSim files.

SPman
October 30th, 2008, 16:13
I use Anti vir and had a similar warning for the same alleged trojan, on files that had been clear before - it was in 2 or 3 disparate files on my external hard drive. I assumed they were false positives. I haven't scanned with the new update yet, so be interesting to see if they are now OK.