Vertigo Studios P36 Hawk Released.

[Deano]

P36 HAWK

Goto our Store Page (http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/p36)

Product Description
Built only for FSX SP1, SP2 and Acceleration (no planned version for FS9), the P36 Hawk has a highly detailed virtual cockpit complete with 3d gauges and authentic textures.
With animations present and correct, including custom sound recordings also adds to the immersion as you open up the throttle and watch how the self shadowing, bump mapping and spectacular highlights bring any of the 8 carefully selected paint schemes to life.

Introduction
The Curtiss P-36 Hawk, also known as the Curtiss Hawk Model 75, was a U.S.-built fighter aircraft of the 1930s. A contemporary of the Hawker Hurricane and Messerschmitt Bf 109, it was one of the first of a new generation of combat aircraft—a sleek monoplane design making extensive use of metal in its construction and powered by a powerful piston engine.

The P-36 saw only limited combat with the United States Army Air Forces but was extensively used by the French Air Force and also by British Commonwealth and Chinese air units.

The P-36 has been designed to take advantage of all the graphical features FSX has to offer, including fully-custom specular shine textures, high resolution bump mapping, self-shading and 3D sound cones.

http://vertigostudios.co.uk/files/P36_42.jpg

http://vertigostudios.co.uk/files/P36_32.jpg

http://vertigostudios.co.uk/files/P36_41.jpg

http://vertigostudios.co.uk/files/P36_pit7.jpg

http://vertigostudios.co.uk/files/P36_pit4.jpg

http://vertigostudios.co.uk/files/P36_pit6.jpg

[Henry]

about time :ernae:
LOL
thanks
H

[JamesChams]

Mr. Dean Greasley "Deano,"

:applause:Amazingly Beautiful, as always! She's on my list... :salute:


EDIT: Wasn't there a HD video posted here a little while ago? Please repost; Thank you.


Hebrews 11:6 "But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." (http://www.lionheartcreations.com/Spiritual_Journey.html)

Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
From,
James F. Chams

[Deano]

Here you go :-)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gk7mPPXPcg


Mr. Dean Greasley "Deano,"

:applause:Amazingly Beautiful, as always! She's on my list... :salute:


EDIT: Wasn't there a HD video posted here a little while ago? Please repost; Thank you.


Hebrews 11:6 "But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." (http://www.lionheartcreations.com/Spiritual_Journey.html)

Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
From,
James F. Chams

[PRB]

Thanks, Dean! I'll be getting this one "soon-ish" ...

[skyhawka4m]

paid for waiting for my download.

[noddy]

What a beauty. :salute:

[Roger]

I'm getting Access denied for the download link. Also worth noticing the e-mails went directly into my junk e-mail folder (Windows Mail Vista 32)

[JamesChams]

Here you go :-) ...Mr. Dean Greasley "Deano,"
Thank you very much; :salute: and that's an outstanding video, too.:applause:
Love the historical narrative and this line at the end totally "cracked-me-up" (funny), "...cartridge clips not included..." :icon_lol:

Thanks again! :wavey:


Hebrews 11:6 "But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." (http://www.lionheartcreations.com/Spiritual_Journey.html)

Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
From,
James F. Chams

[SpaceWeevil]

I'm getting Access denied for the download link. Also worth noticing the e-mails went directly into my junk e-mail folder (Windows Mail Vista 32)

I got this too - just sign into your Vertigo Studios account on the same page and the download should appear. My e-mails also had to be rescued from spam, but all is well now.

[BOOM]

Fantastic!!!!!! Downloading now.

[noddy]

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Well done Deano and the crew. :ernae:

[Roger]

Great stuff!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/p36-3.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/p36-2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/p36-1.jpg

[gajit]

Wow - looks exceptional - downloading as I type! :jump::jump:

[gajit]

OMG - it is exceptional and I have no FPS stutters or lagg - well done Dean and team.

[Paul K]

Just out of interest, is the Duxford - based Fighter Collection's example included ? Its the only P-36 still airworthy, so I would expect it to be in the package. Anyone ?

[gajit]

Just out of interest, is the Duxford - based Fighter Collection's example included ? Its the only P-36 still airworthy, so I would expect it to be in the package. Anyone ?

Hi Paul - is this it - i have not had a chance to read the manual yet as its just so much fun to fly
http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/Untitled-1copy-3.jpg

[d0mokun]

Vrooom. :ernae:

[redriver6]

paid for waiting for my download.

me too

[bruce448]

Vrooom. :ernae:

Similar shots, Great work Dean, Dan and the rest of you hidden in the background....:salute::salute::salute:

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Bruce

[noddy]

Great shots guys.

Bruce what trees are you using?

[bruce448]

Great shots guys.

Bruce what trees are you using?

Andy,

Samoshin Trees V2
http://secure.simmarket.com/samoshin-natural-world-trees-v2.phtml

Bruce

[noddy]

Andy,

Samoshin Trees V2
http://secure.simmarket.com/samoshin-natural-world-trees-v2.phtml

Bruce

So do I and mine don't look that good LOL.

[Scratch]

I'm not really a big fan of the P-36, but this one is so beautifully done I just couldn't pass it up. Great job guys:ernae:

[empeck]

Love the VC shading. Good job guys!

[Paul K]

Hi Paul - is this it - i have not had a chance to read the manual yet as its just so much fun to fly

Looks familiar...

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[Cleartheprop]

Fantastic add-on indeed! Great job !
http://www.cleartheprop.com/images/p36/Image1.jpg
http://www.cleartheprop.com/images/p36/Image2.jpg
http://www.cleartheprop.com/images/p36/Image3.jpg
http://www.cleartheprop.com/images/p36/Image5.jpg

[letsgetrowdy]

Downloadin' now!!!

[PRB]

Fantastic. A home run. What a beautiful plane. And she flies nice. No doubt she's a WW-II fighter though ... can't see a bloody thing on final approach! The curvy approch technique is definately helpful with this beastie! Love it!

[warchild]

Thanks guys :)
am happy you like it :) :) :)
Pam

[mal998]

Thanks guys :)
am happy you like it :) :) :)
Pam

Great job! She's a beauty!

[ijay]

Fantastic job, great service as usual.
There You Go:salute:
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[noddy]

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[ijay]

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Nice pic, she's very photogenic isn't she

[noddy]

Not a bad side to her!

[ijay]

Not a bad side to her!
P-36 is nice aswell:redf: :icon_lol:

[noddy]

Played around with these.

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[gajit]

I had to do this shot - now my 2 fav WWII fighters. The excellent P36 with the A2A P47.

Well done Vertigo studios :salute:

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/P36andjug.jpg

[Quicksand]

Thanks for another masterpiece, Deano. VS has produced another jewel... Loving every minute!

[ijay]

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[BOOM]

Fantastic shots guys!! My gaming PC is busy with my kids doing final projects for school,They won't let me near the PC to install!!Your shots are keeping me going!!! Thank You!!
Cheers

[Cleartheprop]

More shots! What a nice baby! What cannot be shown here is the quality of the sounds! They are great. :ernae:
http://www.cleartheprop.com/images/p36/z1.jpg
http://www.cleartheprop.com/images/p36/z2.jpg
http://www.cleartheprop.com/images/p36/z3.jpg

[SpaceWeevil]

More shots! What a nice baby! What cannot be shown here is the quality of the sounds! They are great. :ernae:
I partlcularly love the fly-past sound. By the way, is there any chance you'll be doing one of your fab cockpit videos for the P-36??

[Cleartheprop]

I partlcularly love the fly-past sound. By the way, is there any chance you'll be doing one of your fab cockpit videos for the P-36??
Hello and thank you SpaceWeevil, I'd like to make a test flight video for the P-36 as soon as I find some spare time! This airplane certainely deserves to be shown in motion !
http://www.cleartheprop.com/images/p36/z4.jpg

[skyhawka4m]

Agreed...an awesome plane. I now own the Hellcat and this and will soon own the Dauntless. I'm kinda glad I switched to FSX now......thank you.


What is next in your awesome line?

How about an IAR-80?

[letsgetrowdy]

Fantastic job, great service as usual.
There You Go:salute:
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Dammit ijay you beat me in getting a screenshot of it at Duxford!!!

Beautiful modeling work, guys this is a gem!!

BTW, how does one differentaite the magnetos???

[SpaceWeevil]

Dammit ijay you beat me in getting a screenshot of it at Duxford!!!

Beautiful modeling work, guys this is a gem!!

BTW, how does one differentaite the magnetos???

I can't make it switch off just one magneto either, not reliably anyway. It's strange because the fuel selector is another click & drag rotary switch and works perfectly. I've asked the question over at Product Support, but it's a small niggle in a magnificent model.

[letsgetrowdy]

Not complaining, just saying it kind of takes out the realism a little...

It is truly gorgeous to fly, and very easy to do so. it is light, responsive and very aerobatic!!!
Well done Vertigo!

[Deano]

Not complaining, just saying it kind of takes out the realism a little...

I totally agree which will be corrected.

[Deano]

Ive played with the mag switch and I'm able to switch to either and it works as good as the fuel selector. We'll do some more testing and see what the problem maybe.

[PRB]

Mag switch appears to work here as well.

I love this plane! I've always liked the lines of the P-36. Just a clean, right-looking aeroplane. You VS people have done a fine job.

***
MB: Asus P6T Deluxe (LGA1366)
CHIPSET: Intel® X58 / ICH10R
CPU: Core i7 920 2.66Ghz (LGA1366)
RAM: 8 GB DDR3/1333MHz Non-ECC Non-Registered Memory Module
VIDEO: NVIDIA 9800GTX+ 512MB Dual DVI (PCI-E) Video Card (2)
OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
SOUND: ADI® AD2000B 8 -Channel High Definition Audio CODEC

[JensOle]

Great work on the Hawk, is there a paintkit released together with it?
My interest in this aircraft is to get it repainted to Norwegian colors as used during the early years of WW2.

[bruce448]

Great work on the Hawk, is there a paintkit released together with it?
My interest in this aircraft is to get it repainted to Norwegian colors as used during the early years of WW2.

JensOle
There is a paintkit due to be released, but it's not included in the model package, I think Dean is having problems with the site. http://downloads.flightsimfiles.com/category/251.

Bruce

[SADT]

Hi,

Drool,Drool,Drool,Drool. . .

This looks amazing!:salute: When you compare it to the A2A P-40 in one of the screenshots posted it just blows the A2A P-40 right out of the sky! (pun intended)

Just one small question: No attitude indicator? would have been interesting intercepting the enemy in IFR even with that instrument?

Cheers,
Craig Tatley

[letsgetrowdy]

Ah.... now I can Deano. I was just using the mouse roller, rather than click and drag.

[SpaceWeevil]

Ah.... now I can Deano. I was just using the mouse roller, rather than click and drag.

You're right, it does work with click & drag, it's just that four out of five times I shut the engine off when I don't mean to. It doesn't seem as controllable as the fuel, but maybe my technique is faulty - it's been said....

I'm a fan of the left click / right click convention for rotary controls (as perfectly realised in this VC with the cowl flaps control and heading indicator adjuster) or the mouse wheel.

Anyway, it takes nothing away from what is my favourite FSX add-on of the year so far.

[BOOM]

Wow!! She's stunning!!!! I really love the flight model!!! Nice job Vertigo Studios!! each aircraft you make get better and better!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/badaboom/fsx2010-05-2308-18-25-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/badaboom/fsx2010-05-2308-20-49-02.jpg

[bruce448]

And the race to paint has started (wip)

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Bruce

[Cleartheprop]

And the race to paint has started (wip)

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Bruce

Wow! Terrific !

[noddy]

Great start Bruce. :jump:

[Deano]

excellent paintscheme Bruce :salute:


And the race to paint has started (wip)

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Bruce

[PRB]

You know what's cool about this plane? No artificial horizon! I flew into a cloud the other day, and automatically went for the AH gauge... (*...gulp...*) Then it was, "ok, no problem, I read this in a book once... needle, ball, VSI, altitude, airspeed. No problem. The needle tells me if I'm turning. Or is that is I'm banking? Then step on the ball to center it, but if I'm turning... compass! Ok, watch the altimeter too, and airspeed, and VSI. Dammit the needle still says I'm turning, ok wait..." Then I came out of the cloud. :icon_lol:

[Cirrus N210MS]

great work guys

sept my radios are broken ... :jump:

no worrys i just added new onces :salute:

[Cirrus N210MS]

i am uploading video to youtube :salute: of my test flight i did tonight over Boonah

[Cirrus N210MS]

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[txnetcop]

Nice video Cirrus of really fine aircraft!!!!
Ted
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[JensOle]

Dean,

What is the latest on the paintkit?


Regards
Jens-Ole

[noddy]

Dean,

What is the latest on the paintkit?


Regards
Jens-Ole

Jens,

It can be found here.

http://vstudios.flightsimfiles.com/

[Deano]

There seems to be a problem with the file on flightsimfiles.com so I'll upload it to our own website for a few days. Once uploaded it will be located on our downloads section.

[Deano]

The paintkit is now ready for download on our website. Once the file on flightsimfiles.com are working we will be removing it from our site.

[Cirrus N210MS]

fixing ai sound cfg

[Cirrus N210MS]

my second video showing the sound mod i am the vinny the other one is ai


Video just finished uploading may not be viewable right away


:salute:

vX4lpM8gPFE

[danyboy21]

In the box ! ! !

Thank's for this wonderfull plane

[gajit]

Made a start with the paint kit - bit more to do.

Any requests guys?

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-178.jpg

[Cleartheprop]

Hello Gajit,
I posted a few days ago some scans I made out of a magazine showing different hawk 75/P36 paints.. here they are again...I think they would make a great addition to this aircraft.
http://www.miragecockpit.com/curtiss/Image1.jpg
http://www.miragecockpit.com/curtiss/Image3.jpg
http://www.miragecockpit.com/curtiss/Image4.jpg

[bruce448]

uploaded now, just have to wait for the mods to approve it....

No27, 23rd Composite Group, Maxwell Field, 1940-41

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Bruce

[Cirrus N210MS]

would be neat to see the other models of the hawk aswell



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Warplane/Hawk-750-Argentina-nepoznat.jpg

[gajit]

uploaded now, just have to wait for the mods to approve it....

No27, 23rd Composite Group, Maxwell Field, 1940-41

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Well done Bruce :ernae:

[gajit]

I dont seem to be able to find much in the way of images/reference for this one. Does anyone have any advice - i still have a lot to do and must sort out the shine on certain bits!!

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-179.jpg

[Cirrus N210MS]

be back later

[mal998]

I dont seem to be able to find much in the way of images/reference for this one. Does anyone have any advice - i still have a lot to do and must sort out the shine on certain bits!!


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD rowSpan=4></TD><TD colSpan=4>http://www.themotorpool.net/v/vspfiles/templates/custom/images/clear1x1.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="100%">USAAC Curtiss P-36C Hawk Fighter - Philip Rasmussen, "Black 86", 46th Pursuit Squadron, 15th Pursuit Group, Wheeler Field, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, December 7th, 1941 (http://www.themotorpool.net/USAAC-Curtiss-P-36-Hawk-Fighter-Philip-Rasmussen-p/car6121.htm)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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[mal998]

More...

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Wings Palette

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/78/3/0

[mal998]

Geez...how do I delete a duplicate post???

[CG_1976]

Thanks Mal for the link. I lost that a while ago after Stalin gave me the link. Love to see the Brazil one please.

[skyhawka4m]

man I'm bummed big time. wnet and bought the SBD and still no download.....: (

[gajit]

Hi Mal998

Thanks for finding those images - i did have a few but they were very helpful.

I have almost completed this one but a few bits need tweaking.


http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-180.jpg

[Deano]

Please remember your on a different time zone to me and most likely placed the order after midnight here in the UK.

You order has now been processed.


man I'm bummed big time. wnet and bought the SBD and still no download.....: (

[skyhawka4m]

how about a factory fresh aircraft with just the antiglare panel and a registration number?

[bruce448]

Hawk H75A-6, Serial 439, unknown unit, Kjeller Airbase, Norway, March 1940.


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[bruce448]

Gajit here's another for you...

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[mal998]

would be neat to see the other models of the hawk aswell



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Warplane/Hawk-750-Argentina-nepoznat.jpg

Man, that is one slick looking plane!

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Here are a few others...


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[Deano]

Looks like you painters are having some serious fun, which is great for the guys using and requesting your work.

Keep up the great work guys.

[gajit]

Gajit here's another for you...

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Bruce


Thank Bruce - I think that Norway scheme is excellent of yours :salute:

[gajit]

All i can do for the moment - please download from here...

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jrfwwgiyzwm/Vertigo Studios P-36 Hawk 86.zip


http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-181.jpg

[bruce448]

Very nice.:applause:

Bruce

[JensOle]

Hawk H75A-6, Serial 439, unknown unit, Kjeller Airbase, Norway, March 1940.


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Nice paint! Just some imputs from a Norwegian; 439 was brand new in 1940 and should not have a worn look, The Norwegain Army air Force used a special font (I'm making them by hand for my version of 439), the dimensions for the Flag stripes are also a bit of.

Regards
Jens-Ole

[JensOle]

The history is full of ”what if’s”, one of these is the story about the Norwegian Army Air Forces order for 24 Curtiss Hawk 75A-6 in 1939. Years of neglect of the armed forces by the Norwegian Labour party finally gave away to the realisation that <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on">Norway</st1:country-region> was in no state to defend itself as war began to lurk in <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place>. By the spring of 1940, 19 of these modern Hawks had arrived in crates with 6 of them having been put together. Sadly they were not yet operational by the time of the German attack on <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Norway</st1:place></st1:country-region> on the 9<SUP>th</SUP> of April and just sat in their hangars at Kjeller air base. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
A fighter force of 24 Hawk 75’s would have been a potent deterrent against air attacks over southern Norway because of the range involved they would just have faced multi engine fighter aircraft. Even the small force of Gloster Gladiators which were operational at the time did quite good against the Bf-110 on the 9<SUP>th</SUP> of April. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
That was not the end of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Norway</st1:place></st1:country-region>’s association with the Curtiss fighter, 36 Cyclone-powered Hawk 75A-8s were also ordered. Most of this batch was delivered as advanced trainers to "Little Norway" near <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Toronto</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Ontario</st1:State>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place>, a Norwegian training base established by the exile government to train aircrews for the Norwegian squadrons serving under the RAF. Still later, they were resold to the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region> and redesignated as P-36G.
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This repaint is of the first of the Norwegian Hawks, 75A-6 “439”. Pictures of this aircraft exists from the spring of 1940.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/RNoAF/Scrshot6272.jpg<o:p></o:p>
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/RNoAF/Scrshot6422.jpg<o:p></o:p>
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/RNoAF/Scrshot6482.jpg<o:p></o:p>

[bruce448]

JensOle, Not gonna argue with you... Lets just call it worn and weary

Nearly new, anyone wanna go Dutch?

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[gajit]

Well done bruce - keep em coming :ernae:

I have just updated my repaint as i messed up the alpha (shine) so please download the corrected version here...

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jrfwwgiyzwm/Vertigo Studios P-36 Hawk 86.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-182.jpg

[noddy]

Great work guys, and many thanks.

[10lrrp]

how about a chinese one i heard clair channaule had one personaly and flying tiger paints

[bruce448]

how about a chinese one i heard clair channaule had one personaly and flying tiger paints

It had fixed undercarriage

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Bruce

[bruce448]

PT21 a bit more to do..

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[gajit]

Another in the works..

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-183.jpg

[gajit]

Download for this one here..

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zwgz4ormtg4/Vertigo Studios P-36 Hawk repaint Captured Luff.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-185.jpg

[bruce448]

PT1, Co 20th Pursuit Group, Baksdale Field c.1939

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all my outstanding paints for this and the SBD will be uploaded tomorrow...

Bruce

[BOOM]

Nice Work!!!!!!!!
Thank You!

[bruce448]

1 36P, HQ 15th Pursuit Group, Wheeler Field, Hawaii, c.1940

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Bruce

[noddy]

1 36P, HQ 15th Pursuit Group, Wheeler Field, Hawaii, c.1940

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Bruce

Perfect, as I seem spend most of my FSX time over Hawaii.

[mal998]

Great work Bruce! Love that Bakersfield paint.

Thanks.

[gajit]

Nice one Bruce :salute:

[bruce448]

The 4 paints have gone to the mods for approval.

Bruce

[gajit]

Got this one on the go... but its taking me ages to find where bits are still!

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-186.jpg

[mal998]

Nice one!

[bruce448]

I'm starting on the French now (nothing un-British about that)......

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Bruce

[peter12213]

Nothing at all Bruce haha!

[gajit]

Done it at last. According to the Osprey book of Hawk aces - the underside of the wings did not have roundals so i have not included them.

Download from here...

http://www.mediafire.com/file/vizjmjnmmym/Vertigo Studios P36 Hawk repaint WPB.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-187.jpg

[bruce448]

A couple of lines to sort out and it will be uploaded

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[huub vink]

Very nice Bruce! I presume this repaint depicts the aircraft flown by S/C Johannès Cucumel. When it is, it should have a white seven on a black circle at the tail and the mourning band, which all aircrafts from 4th squadron had to remember the death of the French WW-I ace Captain Fernand Bonneton in 1922.

Cheers,
Huub

[bruce448]

Very nice Bruce! I presume this repaint depict the aircraft flown by S/C Johannès Cucumel. When it is, it should have a white seven on a black circle at the tail and the mourning band, which all aircrafts from 4th squadron had to remember the death of the French WW-I ace Captain Fernand Bonneton in 1922.

Cheers,
Huub


correct still got to do the numbering on the undersides aswell


Updated pic
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Bruce

[huub vink]

Looks really good Bruce, although I already enjoy your other repaints I'm really looking forward to this one as Joannes Cucumel was active above my country during the German invasion of the low countries.

However I would like to make one small remark: the red-and-silver "Gypaète Égyptien" (Egyptian Vulture) of SPA 153 has the "Omega" symbol in its claw. Therefore the middle should be open and not a white disk.
The Omega symbol should be black as shown in the picture of Joannes Cucumel in front of this particular plane.

Cucumel scored 3 victories with this aircraft after the 20th of May he was transferred GC 2/9 in which squadron he flew the Bloch MB 152. In total he scored 9 victories, all against the Germans during the Battle of France.

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Joannes_Cucumel_1.jpg

[JensOle]

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<o:p>Here is another one from me.
<o:p></o:p>
Beside the first batch of 24 Hawk 75A-6 fighters of which most were captured by the Germans during the invasion of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Norway</st1:place></st1:country-region> in April 1940, 36 Cyclone-powered Hawk 75A-8s were also ordered. Most of this batch was delivered as advanced trainers to the Norwegian training base "Little Norway" near <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Toronto</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place>. In 1943 they were resold to the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> and redesignated as P-36G.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
This repaint is of Hawk 75A-8 “443” (cn 14567) as it looked during service in “Little Norway” during the years 1941-43. The aircraft was later sold to the <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region> and then to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Peru</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Of interest is the strange green/yellow colour which was called “Apple green”, it should be close to the zinc chromate primer colour. All moving surfaces are in silver dope. <o:p></o:p>
</o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p>Regards</o:p>
<o:p>Jens-Ole</o:p>


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/RNoAF/Scrshot7383.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/RNoAF/Scrshot6762.jpg

[Cleartheprop]

<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p>Here is another one from me.
<o:p></o:p>
Beside the first batch of 24 Hawk 75A-6 fighters of which most were captured by the Germans during the invasion of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Norway</st1:place></st1:country-region> in April 1940, 36 Cyclone-powered Hawk 75A-8s were also ordered. Most of this batch was delivered as advanced trainers to the Norwegian training base "Little Norway" near <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Toronto</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place>, to be used as advanced fighter training aircraft. In 1943 they were resold to the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> and redesignated as P-36G.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
This repaint is of Hawk 75A-8 “443” (cn 14567) as it looked during service in “Little Norway” during the years 1941-43. The aircraft was later sold to the <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region> and then to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Peru</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Of interest is the strange green/yellow colour which was called “Apple green”, it should be close to the zinc chromate primer colour. All moving surfaces are in silver dope. <o:p></o:p>
</o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p>Regards</o:p>
<o:p>Jens-Ole</o:p>




Wow! Wonderful repaint and screenshots! It is always nice to get some historical information along with the pictures. thank you. :ernae:

[gajit]

Bruce has done so many of the repaints I like (and very well :salute:) so I have had a go at a ficticious trainer..


http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-188.jpg

[mal998]

Cool! I like!

[huub vink]

Jens-Ole did you ever upload the 439? as I have not been able to find it so far.....

Cheers,
Huub

[bruce448]

H75-A2, No85, X8 84, 2nd Esc. GC I/4, Pilot Sgt Chef Joannes Cummel, Reims, c.June 1940.

9144


uploaded to the usual places and also here

http://www.mediafire.com/file/qnni5yfyune/bm_Vs_P36_No85Cummel.zip


Bruce

[gajit]

Great job Bruce :ernae:

[raptor19]

Congratulations to Dean and all the team at Vertigo Studios for another brilliant Warbird. She is a beauty and apart from the visuals I love the sounds. Thanks to Dean in particular for the excellent customer care in enabling my purchase and download, well above average these days. I look forward to more releases from the team in the future, must look at "The Bridges At Toko Ri" again sometime before the next release! Thanks to everyone also for all the repaints that have already appeared, there are so many nice ones

Best regards,

John N :icon29:

[mal998]

I hope somebody gets around to painting one of these...they are all representations of the same plane differing only in each authors unique perspective on colors.

9150
9151
9153
9152

[JensOle]

Jens-Ole did you ever upload the 439? as I have not been able to find it so far.....

Cheers,
Huub

Not yet I'm afraid. I tend to be a bit late with getting my repaints released. Sort of run out of steam for doing the packaging thing...

Regards
Jens-Ole

[huub vink]

I tend to be a bit late with getting my repaints released. Sort of run out of steam for doing the packaging thing...

Don't worry, I know the feeling......... :d

Cheers,
Huub

[huub vink]

Thanks Bruce.....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Cucumel_P36.jpg

[Panther_99FS]

"Added" to my list of aircraft to get when I get back in the game.....

[huub vink]

Good choice P as You will definitely like it!!!

Cheers,
Huub

[bruce448]

I hope somebody gets around to painting one of these...they are all representations of the same plane differing only in each authors unique perspective on colors.

9150
9151
9153
9152

Mal,

The 1939 Cleveland Air race Schemes are on the list.

Bruce

[gajit]

A ficticious trainer scheme. Download here..

http://www.mediafire.com/file/hmm1jzm4lmq/Vertigo Studios P36 repaint trainer.zip

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/GAJIT/wip-189.jpg

[mal998]

Mal,

The 1939 Cleveland Air race Schemes are on the list.

Bruce

Bruce,
If you're referring to those 4 camo paints I posted ealier, they are actually the same plane with variations on the colors used...pick the color scheme you like the best...that scheme was applied to aircraft that were used during US Army War Games here in the States during 1939.

Thanks,
mal

[bruce448]

Bruce,
If you're referring to those 4 camo paints I posted ealier, they are actually the same plane with variations on the colors used...pick the color scheme you like the best...that scheme was applied to aircraft that were used during US Army War Games here in the States during 1939.

Thanks,
mal

Actual Photos

9219 9218 9217 9216

Bruce

[mal998]

Great photos...Thanks!

[bruce448]

The next installment (Wip) No88, GC I/5, 7

9232

No193, GC I/5, 1 will be released at the same time, I've just got the main wing stripes to do.

Bruce

[Cleartheprop]

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<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p>Here is another one from me.
<o:p></o:p>
Beside the first batch of 24 Hawk 75A-6 fighters of which most were captured by the Germans during the invasion of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Norway</st1:place></st1:country-region> in April 1940, 36 Cyclone-powered Hawk 75A-8s were also ordered. Most of this batch was delivered as advanced trainers to the Norwegian training base "Little Norway" near <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Toronto</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place>. In 1943 they were resold to the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> and redesignated as P-36G.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
This repaint is of Hawk 75A-8 “443” (cn 14567) as it looked during service in “Little Norway” during the years 1941-43. The aircraft was later sold to the <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region> and then to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Peru</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Of interest is the strange green/yellow colour which was called “Apple green”, it should be close to the zinc chromate primer colour. All moving surfaces are in silver dope. <o:p></o:p>
</o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p>Regards</o:p>
<o:p>Jens-Ole</o:p>


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/RNoAF/Scrshot7383.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/RNoAF/Scrshot6762.jpg

Hello Jensole,
is this repaint released yet ?
Thanks!:ernae:

[JensOle]

Both of my Norwegian paints are coming soon :)

[bruce448]

H75-A2, No. 88, 2nd Escadrille GC1/5, Pilot Lt Camille Plubeau, Rabat, c.1942.

9261

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zauczonznzk/bm_VS_P36_CGI5_88.zip


H75-A2, No. 193, 2nd Escadrille GC1/5, Pilot Cne Max VinCotte, Rabat, c.1942.

9260

http://www.mediafire.com/file/tzjmuiylzhm/bm_VS_P36_CGI5_193.zip


Bruce

[JensOle]

Looking very good Bruce!

Both my Norwegian Hawks are available in the download section, enjoy!

[Scratch]

<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p>Here is another one from me.</o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Beside the first batch of 24 Hawk 75A-6 fighters of which most were captured by the Germans during the invasion of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Norway</st1:place></st1:country-region> in April 1940, 36 Cyclone-powered Hawk 75A-8s were also ordered. Most of this batch was delivered as advanced trainers to the Norwegian training base "Little Norway" near <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Toronto</st1:city>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place>. In 1943 they were resold to the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> and redesignated as P-36G.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
This repaint is of Hawk 75A-8 “443” (cn 14567) as it looked during service in “Little Norway” during the years 1941-43. The aircraft was later sold to the <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region> and then to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Peru</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Of interest is the strange green/yellow colour which was called “Apple green”, it should be close to the zinc chromate primer colour. All moving surfaces are in silver dope. <o:p></o:p>

<o:p></o:p>
<o:p>Regards</o:p>
<o:p>Jens-Ole</o:p>


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/RNoAF/Scrshot7383.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/JensOle/RNoAF/Scrshot6762.jpg

That is just one beautiful paint job! Outstanding!!!!!!!:ernae:

[Cleartheprop]

Both of my Norwegian paints are coming soon :)

Thanks! Your work is truly terrific!

[Pips]

Luv both the French and Norwegian colours!!

[JensOle]

for thos of you which want to take the Norwegian Hawk back to camp "Little Norway", the current name of the airport is "Toronto city centre airport". The Toronto skyline has definetly changed a lot since the 40's, but still a nice place for Hawk training :)

Regards
Jens-Ole

[bruce448]

Hawk H-75-B Prototype (original had Wright Cyclone engine), Wright Field, c.1937

9346 9347

Bruce

[bruce448]

Mal, Have startes on the Cleveland Air Race scheme for '69', 27th PS, 1st PG, Cleveland 1939. (Colours taken from spec 14057-B, standards for Temporary camoflage paints Mar 1938).


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Brucehttp://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/misc/pencil.png

[mal998]

Mal, Have startes on the Cleveland Air Race scheme for '69', 27th PS, 1st PG, Cleveland 1939.


9348 9349

Bruce

Bruce,
So far that looks terrific! Thanks.

[huub vink]

Mal, Have startes on the Cleveland Air Race scheme for '69', 27th PS, 1st PG, Cleveland 1939. (Colours taken from spec 14057-B, standards for Temporary camoflage paints Mar 1938).

Bruce,

Perhaps this site can help you: http://www.jpsmodell.de/katalog/jpsusww2_e.htm

According my information the used colours for these schemes were colour 25 till 35. The 69 was most probably sprayed in white 25 - sand 26 and dark green 30 or dark olive drab 31. Which in my opinion look a bit different than the colours you used.

Some aircraft were sprayed in a very "kinky scheme" using the colours white -25, sand 26 - Dark Blue 29 - Dark purple 32 and Neutral grey 33!

The water based camouflage paint was sprayed on the aircraft, however Curtiss used pre-cut masks, which resulted in quite sharp colour demarcations, as is visible on most pictures of these aircrafts.

When you need the "Eagle marking" just send me a PM as I have it in Photoshop format already, as I wanted to use it on the ex-donationware P-36.

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/1805934613_424c36b836_o.jpg

[skyhawka4m]

Hello Jensole,
is this repaint released yet ?
Thanks!:ernae:


I'm not seeing the Noprwiegn repaints in the download section for some reason.

[Sphinx_58]

I'm not seeing the Noprwiegn repaints in the download section for some reason.

When you urgently want them, you can find them at Flightsim.com.

[JensOle]

They are there... http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=3&sort=N&pp=15&page=3

Also available at flightsim.com

Regards
Jens-Ole

[gajit]

Great work Jens and Bruce - tx for sharing :wavey:

[skyhawka4m]

Looking very good Bruce!

Both my Norwegian Hawks are available in the download section, enjoy!


Ok...I found one of them but not the one with the wings bands in the apple green color.

[bruce448]

Mal How's this looking? a couple of lines to tidy.

9411 9412

Bruce

[noddy]

Another beauty Bruce.

[bruce448]

Another beauty Bruce.


Thanks Andy,

Should be when finished, just worked out so far it has taken in the region of 53 hours and most of that is to get the vertical lines sorted.

Bruce

[BOOM]

Bruce,I'm Lovin your fantastic work!!! Thanks for the excellent paints!!!!!!:salute:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/badaboom/th_fsx2010-05-2721-26-45-54.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v27/badaboom/?action=view&current=fsx2010-05-2721-26-45-54.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/badaboom/th_fsx2010-05-2721-26-31-08.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v27/badaboom/?action=view&current=fsx2010-05-2721-26-31-08.jpg)

[mal998]

Mal How's this looking? a couple of lines to tidy.

9411 9412

Bruce

Lovin' em...they look great Big Thanks!

[bruce448]

Just been uploaded and needs to be approved by the mods

9448

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mjgtzdrzxmg/bm_vs_p36_1939CAR.zip

Bruce

[bruce448]

'2' No217, 1Esc, GC I/5, Lt. E. Marin la Meslée, Battle of France c.1940.



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http://www.mediafire.com/file/lylnzzlfjvi/bm_vs_P36_no217Marin.zip


Bruce

[bruce448]

You wanted Shiny and New, Hawk H-75B Prototype,Serial X17Y, Wright Field, C.1937

9546


http://www.mediafire.com/file/mm2eg220uze/bm_vs_P36_prototype.zip

Bruce

[peter12213]

Excellent work, thanks Bruce!

[noddy]

Many thanks Bruce.

[huub vink]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/marin.jpg

For those who don't know who Lt Edmond Marin le Meslée was:

Lt Edmond Marin le Meslée was the top scoring French Ace during the battle of France. He had 16 confirmed kills and 4 probables! During the armistice he remained in the French Vichy Air Force and was transfered to North Africa. After Operation Torch he joined the Free French. In February 1945 he was shot down by German flak, while flying a P-47 and was killed when his aircraft exploded.

He scored his first kill at January 11th 1940, the rest of his victories were made between May 12th and June 10th! All his victories were made in a Curtiss H-75,

Thanks Bruce for bringing this piece of history back to live!

Huub

[bruce448]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/marin.jpg

For those who don't know who Lt Edmond Marin le Meslée was:

Lt Edmond Marin le Meslée was the top scoring French Ace during the battle of France. He had 16 confirmed kills and 4 probables! During the armistice he remained in the French Vichy Air Force and was transfered to North Africa. After Operation Torch he joined the Free French. In February 1945 he was shot down by German flak, while flying a P-47 and was killed when his aircraft exploded.

He scored his first kill at January 11th 1940, the rest of his victories were made between May 12th and June 10th! All his victories were made in a Curtiss H-75,

Thanks Bruce for bringing this piece of history back to live!

Huub

Huub, I take it your happy with the service?
Bruce:sheep:

[bruce448]

Your next instalment for tomorrow

Panamanian Air Force 1940, Albrook Field, Panama c.1940

9576

or better known as the USAAC 27th PS, 20th PG.

Bruce

[huub vink]

Huub, I take it your happy with the service?
Bruce:sheep:

Yep, definitely great service!

Huub

[DX-FMJ]

How do we download the paintkit?

The link here http://downloads.flightsimfiles.com/package/7772 doesn't work :(

[bruce448]

How do we download the paintkit?

The link here http://downloads.flightsimfiles.com/package/7772 doesn't work :(


Use the one here


http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/P36/P36_Paintkit.zip (http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/media/P36/P36_Paintkit.zip)

Bruce

[stormtrooper271]

Thanks for the amazing repaint Bruce, I just got finished flying the prototype hawk from Catalina island, across the state of California, I can't wait for more! Here are some shots of flying through Arizona.

[bruce448]

No17, 27th PS, 20th PG, Albrook Field, Panama c.1940

9636

http://www.mediafire.com/file/vjzjwddjz3z/bm_vs_P36_panama.zip

Bruce

[Peritas]

Thank a lot, Bruce!

Best Regards,
Luca

[bruce448]

H-75A-2 'Yellow 7',CUw-557, HLeLV 32, Finnish AF, c.1941.

9729 9730

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zyt2mzmgn1u/bm_vs_p36_CUw557.zip

Bruce

[Peritas]

Just downloaded: great!! :jump::jump::jump:

Best regards,
Luca

[Sphinx_58]

Nice one Bruce, Thanks!

[huub vink]

As I already said before; I definitely like the service ;)

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/CU667.jpg

[bruce448]

As I already said before; I definitely like the service ;)

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/CU667.jpg


As always a pleasure, now for some time off....(or maybe do something else????)

Bruce

[10lrrp]

what guns are depicted on this model ??

[bruce448]

what guns are depicted on this model ??


In the nose
1 × 0.30 in (7.62 mm) M1919 Browning Machine Gun
1 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning Machine Gun

In each wing
1 × 0.30 in (7.62 mm) M1919 Browning Machine Gun

Bruce

[huub vink]

I know it is a bit of nitpicking, but as the Vertigo model depicts the French H-75 version, the aircraft was actually equipped with 4 FN-Browning 7.5mm machine guns. FN (Fabrique National d'Herstal) was a Belgium arms manufacturer, which already worked together with John Browning since 1898.

A not well known fact is that the well known British .303 Browning aircraft machine gun introduced in the late 1930s and used in World War II was actually a license-built FN Browning design and not a "Colt-Browning" as often referred to.

The Fins used ex-French H-75 Hawks, which were sold to them by the Germans, so the Hawks used by the Fins most probably still had the original French FN-Browning machine guns.

Cheers,
Huub

[peter12213]

I know it is a bit of nitpicking, but as the Vertigo model depicts the French H-75 version, the aircraft was actually equipped with 4 FN-Browning 7.5mm machine guns. FN (Fabrique National d'Herstal) was a Belgium arms manufacturer, which already worked together with John Browning since 1898.

A not well known fact is that the well known British .303 Browning aircraft machine gun introduced in the late 1930s and used in World War II was actually a license-built FN Browning design and not a "Colt-Browning" as often referred to.

The Fins used ex-French H-75 Hawks, which were sold to them by the Germans, so the Hawks used by the Fins most probably still had the original French FN-Browning machine guns.

Cheers,
Huub

They did have 303's until they replaced them with russian .50 cals or American ones I think!

[huub vink]

They did have 303's until they replaced them with russian .50 cals or American ones I think!

As Finland fought against Russia until deep in 1944 and was regarded an ally of Germany for most of WW-II. Therefore I don't think replacement by Russian or American weapons is very logical. In 1944 when Finland made peace with Russia through the Moscow Armistice, they were forced to give up most of their army. So if the machine guns were replaced, replacement of the original 7.5mm guns by German MG 17 machine guns is perhaps more likely.

Cheers,
Huub

[peter12213]

The Finnish Hawks were initially armed with either four or six 0.295 in (7.5 mm) machine guns. While sufficient during the early phase of the Continuation War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War), the increasing speeds and armor of Soviet aircraft soon showed this armament was not powerful enough. From 1942, the State Aircraft Factory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Aircraft_Factory) replaced the fuselage machine guns with either one or two 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Colt machine guns and installed two or four 0.303 in (7.7 mm) Browning machine guns in each wing. The 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Berezin UB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berezin_UB) or LKk/42 heavy machine guns were also used.<SUP id=cite_ref-BackwoodsFAF_7-2 class=reference>[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-36_Hawk#cite_note-BackwoodsFAF-7)</SUP> The installation of heavier armament did not change the very good flying characteristics of the fighter, but the armament was much more effective against Soviet planes. The Finnish Hawks were also equipped with Revi 3D or C/12D gunsight

[huub vink]

Yep Peter, your right. As Wikipedia is an "open source" I'm always a bit careful. But it is mentioned in the book "Suomen ilmavoimien Historia Curtiss Hawk 75 A" as well.

Perhaps it is just me, but I still think it is a bit weird that Colt .50 machine guns obviously were delivered, while Finland was at war with Russia, which was at that time a full ally from the USA........ And that at the same time these American guns were mounted, German gun sights and radios (FuG 7a) were installed as well!

BTW in the same book I also learned the Cu-557 was a H-75 A6 originally delivered to Norway. So it might even have had Colt-Browning guns already.

Cheers,
Huub

[JensOle]

Yep Peter, your right. As Wikipedia is an "open source" I'm always a bit careful. But it is mentioned in the book "Suomen ilmavoimien Historia Curtiss Hawk 75 A" as well.

Perhaps it is just me, but I still think it is a bit weird that Colt .50 machine guns obviously were delivered, while Finland was at war with Russia, which was at that time a full ally from the USA........ And that at the same time these American guns were mounted, German gun sights and radios (FuG 7a) were installed as well!

BTW in the same book I also learned the Cu-557 was a H-75 A6 originally delivered to Norway. So it might even have had Colt-Browning guns already.

Cheers,
Huub

It was not weird at all to find American and or British weapons in Finnish aircraft during ww2. During the winter war in 1939 both countries sympathized with <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Finland</st1:place></st1:country-region> and supplied military equipment. So the 12.7 mm Colt should be readily available to the Fins during ww2 for use in aircraft as the Hawk 75. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Some more info I found on a Finnish site:<o:p></o:p>
A-1: 2 fuselage and 2 wing mounted 7.5 mm FN-Browning MGs; from the end of 1942: 1 or 2 fuselage mounted 12.7 mm Colt, Berezin UB or LKK/42 MGs and 2 wing mounted 7.7 mm Browning MGs<o:p></o:p>

A-2/4: 1 or 2 fuselage and 4 wing mounted 7.5 mm FN-Browning MGs; from 1942: 2 fuselage mounted 12.7 mm Colt, Berezin UB or LKK/42 MGs and 4 wing mounted 7.7 mm Browning MGs<o:p></o:p>

A-6 (former Norwegian): 2 fuselage and 2 wing mounted 7.9 mm Colt MGs; from 1942: 1 or 2 fuselage mounted 12.7 mm Colt, Berezin UB or LKK/42 MGs and 2 wing mounted 7.7 mm Browning MGs


<o:p></o:p>
Basically this tells use that the Fins put all sort of heavy MGs into their Hawks, starting in late 1942.

Regards
Jens-Ole<o:p></o:p>

[huub vink]

It is a bit weird, but I am a sort of intrigued by this subject. Therefore I did some further reading. The Berezin UB gun were acquired on the same way the Klimov engines for the MS.406 were obtained.

I still couldn't find how the Fins got hold of their American guns, but the Twin Wasp Junior engines for the license built Fokker D.XXI fighters were bought via Sweden.

Cheers,
Huub

[Deano]

A big thanks goes out to all the guys that have put alot of work into the P36 paintschemes, they have more patients than me, thanks guys for your awesome work todate.

[tracyq144]

Love all the repaints and such, but wish these "just released" threads would have more "review" type replies, i.e., how does it handle, what do it's handling qualities compare to, etc., etc.

If I buy it, it's not going to be for the repaints, but for how it flies, how the VC works, etc.

Not criticizing, just stating my interests, I guess.

(So, anyone got a review they'd like to post? I can really only afford one addon this month, should it be this one?) :kilroy:

[huub vink]

Tracy as I have been involved in this project as beta tester, I'm perhaps a bit biased. But this is something I wrote to a friend and therefore it should be my honest personal opinion.

The model is very nice. It looks great in spot view and at least on my humble system framerates as quite decent. I have the framerate locked at 20 fps and this can be easily maintained. I dislike the pilot model and the model is a bit too glossy to my taste. Personally I prefer the replacement textures by Bruce Martin above the original textures done by Dan Dunn. Due to the complex texture lay-out, stretching, different angles and the fact that several part have a different scale the model is difficult to repaint. Some repaints are even impossible to do!

The model is a very close model of the "Fighters collection" H-75. Therefore it isn't a real H-75 nor a real P-36. The Fighters collection claim their H-75 is a H-75 A1. However there are many American parts used during the rebuild and some parts were not introduced before the H-75 A3 version. Some parts which are used on the Fighters collection H-75 are "borrowed from a P-40 and were even never used on the P-36.
Therefore the Vertigo model is neither fish nor flesh, like the "Fighters collection" H-75.

There is something really odd with the flight model. According to what I have read, the P-36/H-75 was an easy aircraft to fly. The model is quite easy to fly as well. However when I look at the CoG this is way to far to the back! It is extremely hard to get the model to stall and when it stalls it is almost too easy to restore normal flight. Performance however is quite close to the real thing.

Vertigo/Dean Greasley is planning to bring out a more complex version of this P-36/H-75, with engine failures etc. Therefore the controls in this model are rather simple. Most switches don't work and apart from a functioning constant speed prop there isn't much exiting in the cockpit. Although it sure looks extremely nice.

There are several reasons why I prefer this model above the A2A P-40. Most important; the P-36 is much easier to fly and flies most probably much more realistic. When a pilot should put as much effort in flying an aircraft as needed in the A2A P-40 their wasn't much time left to fight the enemy!

The final verdict:
The Vertigo P-36/H-75 is in my opinion not in the same league as the Classics-Hangar FW-190s and recent A2A products. The flight model needs improvement on some minor points and the model is not a fully authentic H-75 nor a P-36 and hard to repaint. However the model is very nice details detailed and looks very well. So although there is quite some room for improvement the model definitely scores a 7 out of 10.

Cheers,
Huub

[tracyq144]

huub, thanks for that info! Getting ready to pull the trigger, LOL!

[tracyq144]

Well, I went to the order link, and the only option to pay was Paypal. Too bad, I would have liked this plane.

"Clunky" purchase options don't do it for me,
Carenado and A2A, to mention just a couple, are able to streamline the buying process, others need not apply.

A shame, really, because you are just cutting your own throat.

[mal998]

Well, I went to the order link, and the only option to pay was Paypal. Too bad, I would have liked this plane.

"Clunky" purchase options don't do it for me,
Carenado and A2A, to mention just a couple, are able to streamline the buying process, others need not apply.

A shame, really, because you are just cutting your own throat.

Usually when I buy through PayPal they give you an option to buy using a credit card.

[Scratch]

I know it is a bit of nitpicking, but as the Vertigo model depicts the French H-75 version, the aircraft was actually equipped with 4 FN-Browning 7.5mm machine guns. FN (Fabrique National d'Herstal) was a Belgium arms manufacturer, which already worked together with John Browning since 1898.

A not well known fact is that the well known British .303 Browning aircraft machine gun introduced in the late 1930s and used in World War II was actually a license-built FN Browning design and not a "Colt-Browning" as often referred to.

The Fins used ex-French H-75 Hawks, which were sold to them by the Germans, so the Hawks used by the Fins most probably still had the original French FN-Browning machine guns.

Cheers,
Huub

I really enjoy this type of 'nitpicking' as it makes flying this bird even more enjoyable to me. Keep it up y'all, thanks for sharing your knowledge:salute:

[Z-DarthVader]

some screenies of me flying this bird

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/scrankler19/2010-5-28_15-19-14-652.jpg?t=1277141840

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/scrankler19/2010-5-28_15-19-24-358.jpg?t=1277141841

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/scrankler19/2010-5-28_15-23-47-320.jpg?t=1277141842

[jankees]

my credit card tried to stop me for a moment here, but it gave in after some forceful persuasion...

Wonderful bird!

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX3078.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX3082.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX3074.jpg

[gajit]

Well done Jankees :ernae:

[bruce448]

my credit card tried to stop me for a moment here, but it gave in after some forceful persuasion...

Wonderful bird!

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX3078.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX3082.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX3074.jpg


Argh the breaking strain of soggy weetabix syndrome strikes again, Nice shots Jankees.

Bruce

[tracyq144]

Usually when I buy through PayPal they give you an option to buy using a credit card.

I must have missed that option, I'll check again. Thanks for the info!

[oakfloor]

Im likeing this plane, so I went to the website and they state "may take up to 12 hours to process" Does this mean that theres no buy it and get a download link for up to 12 hours?

[Deano]

Hi, it means that all orders are manually authorised as we're in the UK, do to the time zones you may have to wait until I wake up or finish having dinner :D

[Cleartheprop]

Here is a FLIGHTSIM review (http://www.flightsim.com/main/review/curtp36.htm) of this excellent P-36, by Bill Stack.

[ZsoltB]

137621376113760

[Cleartheprop]

Beautiful!

[ZsoltB]

Thank you!

:ernae:

[Deano]

Excellent work on the paint and thanks for sharing your work.


Thank you!

:ernae:

[ZsoltB]

Yes!

Soon,the Flightsim!

Regards,

Zsolt

[huub vink]

Great repaint Zsolt, very much appreciated!

Huub

[Roger]

excellent!

[huub vink]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/58_27fs.jpg

[Deano]

looks like a winner for sure :jump:

[ZsoltB]

Thank you everyone!
Great model!
It was a pleasure to paint!

:wavey:

Zsolt

[jankees]

I'm starting with an easy one:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4111.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4102.jpg

what a wonderful aircraft!

[huub vink]

I'm starting with an easy one

I don't mind ;) Knowing you the more complex ones will follow automatically :d

Huub

[bruce448]

I'm starting with an easy one:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4111.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4102.jpg

what a wonderful aircraft!


Looking good Jankees, welcome to the club.

Bruce

[gajit]

Good work Jankees

[jankees]

Progress is slow, it's an...interesting paintkit....

Still WiP:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4146.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4147.jpg

I wish somebody would cut that grass, holiday for 3 weeks and the place looks like a jungle....

[jankees]

some more progress:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4176.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4185.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4186.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4191.jpg

slowly getting there...

[bruce448]

Looking dirty sorry I meant Good.

Bruce

[jankees]

I still need to sort a few details on the underside, but this is what the next paint will look like from above:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4228.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4232.jpg


and some more work done:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX35-1.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX29.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX11.jpg

any comments?

[huub vink]

Without any doubt "jongblad" and "oudblad". The triangles on the wings are a bit small, but I assume that's because the textures stretches a bit over the rudder. But are you sure the Dutch Hawks had these triangles on their wings?

Appreciated,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/Dutch_H75.jpg

[jankees]

it gets worse...
I found the same pic but even better quality, and indeed, no triangles on the wings, but I also see I have the camouflage pattern all wrong. I adopted the british pattern for lack of good pics, but no longer....and the black edges on the triangles are much thicker..

OK, back to the drawingboard....

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10378/10.jpg

I wonder about the underside though, do you have any pics?

edit: the plot thickens...it seems they were bare metal below!

[bruce448]

it gets worse...
I found the same pic but even better quality, and indeed, no triangles on the wings, but I also see I have the camouflage pattern all wrong. I adopted the british pattern for lack of good pics, but no longer....and the black edges on the triangles are much thicker..

OK, back to the drawingboard....

http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/10378/10.jpg

I wonder about the underside though, do you have any pics?

edit: the plot thickens...it seems they were bare metal below!


does this help?

14587

Bruce

[huub vink]

Jan Kees, I haven't been able to find a picture of a Dutch H-75 which clearly shows the underside. However based on pictures from Buffalos and Curtiss CW22 aircrafts I assume they had orange triangles on the lower side of the wings. These should be in the middle from the wings and not at the location where the British had their nationality markings.

The black border around the orange nationality marking was 10 cm in width.

I hope this helps,

Cheers,
Huub

[jankees]

Thanks guys, I found some additional info too, it's going to look great, just you wait and see.
First, I'm off to bed...

[jankees]

There we are once more..

After some additional research:
The Hawks were originally delivered in bare metal, and equipped with 6 orange triangles and rudder.
After the occupation of the Netherlands in may 1940, it was decided to camouflage all dutch aircraft in the East Indies, starting with the Glenn Martin Bombers.
After experimenting, it was decided to use a camouflage pattern in two colours of dark green, called 'jongblad' (young leaves) and 'oudblad' (old leaves), with light grey below.
The Hawks received a similar coat of camouflage paint, covering the top surfaces, and the entire fuselage, aa well as the undersides of the wingtips and the leading edge of the wings. The underside was left bare metal. The nationality markings (6 orange triangles and rudder) remained as they were for the moment, but between september and october 1940, the markings on the rudder and the top of the wings were overpainted.
So, there we have it, I believe.
After october 1940, the aircraft may have looked something like this:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/HK06.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/HK08.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4255.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4252.jpg

[bruce448]

Very very nice.

Bruce

[rohan]

jankees,
absolutely fantastic - thank you muchly,
best regards,
Ro
:ernae:

[huub vink]

Looks good Jan Kees! But what happened with the bare metal French livery?

Cheers,
Huub

[jankees]

That was just uploaded and became available on OZX (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=1268):

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/No7-003.jpg

together with this
one (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=1269):

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/no125-003.jpg

and our
dutch friend (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=1270):

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/C332-003.jpg

I hope you'll enjoy them, happy flying!!

[Pips]

Outstanding!! :) I'm off the grab them.

[Cleartheprop]

terrific repaints Jan! thank you :ernae:

[huub vink]

Thanks JanKees, I like it!

Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/H75_JanKees.jpg

[CG_1976]

May i please req a paint for this wonderful aircraft if there are any interested painters please.
1st Air Training Group. Forca Aerea Brasileira

[jankees]

That shouldn't be too difficult, give me a bit of time..

[jankees]

How's this?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4464.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4466.jpg

[Deano]

excellent paint thanks.:salute:

[CG_1976]

How's this?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4464.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4466.jpg

Let me know when and were. A beautiful paint :salute:

[jankees]

I tweaked the Brazilian a bit more, and started on a new british version, but those distortions around the hatch drive me nuts...

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4499.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4492.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4496.jpg

[BananaBob]

Awesome paints Jan! :salute:

[BOOM]

:jump:^^^^^^So Good to see You back Bob^^^^^^:jump:

[jankees]

I think I have the roundel sorted, and a lot of other little details..

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4516.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/FX4518.jpg

uploading soon(ish), unless you guys spot any errors?

[bruce448]

I think I have the roundel sorted, and a lot of other little details..




The mesh on this one is good for hair loss, looking good.

Bruce

[jankees]

now available on OZX (and later on avsim):

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/brazilavsim.jpg
Brazialian Air Force (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=1287)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/bill4514.jpg
"Bill" BS796 of the RAF (http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=1286)

[CG_1976]

Thank you jankees. Just got the Brazil P-36 from Ozx.

[huub vink]

Thanks JanKees!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/RAF_JK_P36.jpg