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Lionheart
April 21st, 2010, 14:01
Hey all,

Have you seen the ad's for the new Railworks 2010? It really looks like a well done complete redo of MSTS. I may have to break down and get it. The sounds, VC, 2D panel, etc, look amazing, not to mention the models.

The only drawback is that its all in German, voices and things, etc. It may not work on some English computers.

You can read more on it at www.aerosoft.com in the Trains / english section.

Bill

Snuffy
April 21st, 2010, 14:06
I'm already running RailWorks. :wiggle:

empeck
April 21st, 2010, 14:17
It's the same Railworks we already have. German version will introduce new german rolling stock (BR52!!!), some fixes to german signalling, etc. All new content from this version will be available for free to registered users via Steam.

Lionheart
April 21st, 2010, 14:23
Dang.. I didnt know it was out yet. I have been trying to find it.

I just found this page; http://www.shop.aerosoft.com/eshop.php?action=article_detail&s_supplier_aid=50228

Supposedly according to this page, its not out yet.


I'll check Steam.



Bill

empeck
April 21st, 2010, 14:32
http://www.contact-simulations.com/acatalog/RailWorks_by_RailSimulator_.html

http://store.steampowered.com/app/24010/

It's the same game.

German localized version is not out yet.

Lionheart
April 21st, 2010, 19:21
Thanks Empeck. Off to check those out.



Bill

Lionheart
April 22nd, 2010, 03:13
Got it!

Drove it!

..................all night.... arrgh..

One word: awesome.

Lionheart
April 26th, 2010, 12:45
I have been immensely enjoying this sim. Very impressive.

It has some very cool features, such as LOD-ization where things appear as they get into range, from very close objects textures, to houses and forests appearing far away. Some cool settings features too that can manage textures quality and range LOD controls. Mine is about mid way on sliders with a few raised so that performance is still very fast and smooth. (I must have smooth.....)


Some screenshots from online. I still need to take some. I keep getting distracted from taking screenshots...



Bill

Henry
April 26th, 2010, 13:04
Bill what sim is that?
i use rail works and that looks like the same
but i have no sliders etc
confused
H

gajit
April 26th, 2010, 13:42
Hi Henry

Hope your well

Have you found settings in the opening page where you click for Senarios?

Henry
April 26th, 2010, 15:06
Hi Henry

Hope your well

Have you found settings in the opening page where you click for Senarios?
ah there ya go
thanks
H

Lionheart
April 26th, 2010, 15:15
I found a bullet train, British, that is payware addon for this at Steam, and found this morning a Virgin Rails paint scheme for it...

I MUST find that paint scheme....!

Henry
April 26th, 2010, 15:50
its cool but i love the older stuff
H

Henry
April 26th, 2010, 16:51
like this
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/henrybaker/mossie/210/Screenshot_ThePortRoadV30_5492097--.png

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/henrybaker/mossie/210/Screenshot_ThePortRoadV30_5493823--.png

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/henrybaker/mossie/210/Screenshot_ThePortRoadV30_5485740--.png
H

Henry
April 26th, 2010, 17:20
some freeware
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/henrybaker/mossie/210/Screenshot_ThePortRoadV30_5504798--.png

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/henrybaker/mossie/210/Screenshot_ThePortRoadV30_550436-1.png

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/henrybaker/mossie/210/Screenshot_ThePortRoadV30_5503642--.png

H

Snuffy
April 26th, 2010, 17:31
HEY H!

Where did you find those working girls? (cows in the pasture?)

Henry
April 26th, 2010, 18:09
all part of the port road
http://www.trainsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=98&sortby=Date&sortdir=descending
great add on
H

Lionheart
April 26th, 2010, 19:15
I have been running some of the older routes and engines as well. Had the chance to run the Black 5's. Wild ole engines, lol.. Awesome model work. I need the new version of the Flying Scottsman.

I wonder if we can transfer in MSTS tracks and routes into Railworks2010? Kind of like putting in FS9 birds into FSX?



Bill

Snuffy
April 27th, 2010, 03:19
... I wonder if we can transfer in MSTS tracks and routes into Railworks2010? Kind of like putting in FS9 birds into FSX?



Bill

From my understanding ... not doable. Sorry.

Lionheart
April 28th, 2010, 00:40
Ok... I have a question. I purchased the Electric 390 Train system last night for RailWorks 2010 from SteamGames.com where I purchased RW2010 also.

It has supposedly downloaded and installed into my system, but dang if I can figure out how to see where its at, where the engines and routes are, etc...

I tried activating it (I think) via the little arrow buttons in the 'Packages' window, but that did nothing.

Anyone know how to work/manage the addons that install into RW2010?

Many thanks for any input.


Bill

Lionheart
April 28th, 2010, 00:40
From my understanding ... not doable. Sorry.

Thanks Snuffy,


Oh well. It was only an idea..


Bill

Snuffy
April 28th, 2010, 03:03
Railworks and Railsimulator are very very similar and I have crossed over stuff from RS into RW, but the MSTS stuff is not compatable with either in to or out of ...

If you buy individual components, you will not see them in pre-existing senarios. In order to see your new stuff, you have to either create your own system and install your components, or you need to open an existing system and edit the senario and insert the component.

Make sense?

empeck
April 28th, 2010, 03:12
I haven't bought any DLC yet, but I have some of them - they were bundled in Steam limited offer when I bought RW. Everything was downloaded automatically, and new scenarios just appeared on list.

Lionheart
April 28th, 2010, 05:07
Thanks Empeck. I did find it. I had thought I had to Install it. Turned up with only 1 route and it was on the bottom of a long list of routes.


Thanks Snuffy. Thats good to know.


Man... This 390 is just awesome... It leans in turns, has a quieter soundpack.. Only 1 problem. How do I drive it on other routes.. lol.


Bill

Snuffy
April 28th, 2010, 05:21
Man... This 390 is just awesome... It leans in turns, has a quieter soundpack.. Only 1 problem. How do I drive it on other routes.. lol.


Bill

You have to edit the route and make a new consist .... any of the websites will tell ya how to do that as well as the creator's manual should tell you how.

Henry
April 28th, 2010, 05:25
there are a few ways
i use RW tools its donationware
you can swap the trains
or i just add them to the free roam scenerios
or clone a scenerio and change them
its a little learning curve but not that hard
even a Henry can do it
LOL
H

Henry
April 28th, 2010, 05:37
you can ceate a new scenerio
or swap trains
just like this
or use the editor
thats a little harder
H

Lionheart
April 28th, 2010, 06:14
you can ceate a new scenerio
or swap trains
just like this
or use the editor
thats a little harder
H


Many thanks Henry.

Looks like its going to be fun learning how to do this. There certainly arent enough missions to run and there could be alot of fun placed into these.

The other day I ran that route that goes from London, out to a small town at high speed. That was pretty fun but I think it needed a few stops in there to break up the long jaunts.


Bill

warchild
May 8th, 2010, 03:27
Nice shots Henry.. :) :)

I just fired up RW again for the first time in months, and it crashed.. time and time again :9.. joy oh joy.. Oh well.. Deleted the entire steam folder and reinstalled steam. i'm currently re-downloading all my dlc's.. hopefuly, in another 20 minutes, it'll work.. Please keep your fingers crossed :) :) ..

Snuffy
May 8th, 2010, 07:05
I hope it works out for ya Pam.

Keep us posted! :wiggle:

Lionheart
May 8th, 2010, 07:23
Hoping it works for you Pam...

I havent rode the trains myself in days... I am needing a fix...!


Bill

warchild
May 8th, 2010, 15:36
It was nice..7:30 AM and up all night re-downloading all my railworks addons and listening to the sound of those big F7s.. though i gotta admit, i'm a lil bit tired of Barstow..
I couldnt find my original DD-40X i bought from digital trains, so, i splurged a bit and payed for a second one.. still waiting on the download link for that one.. I wish i could figure out the way railworks uses files for models and paints. I might be tempted to make a couple models of my own.. I cant seem to find a GP-35A or B , and the DD-40B is non existant, as are the veranda style gas turbines.. neither is there anything in liveries for Rock Island Lines.. Kinda sad, but the year is only half over so maybe something will turn up somewhere..

Wild Bill Kelso
May 24th, 2010, 04:03
Hi, folks!


Have you seen the ad's for the new Railworks 2010? ...
The only drawback is that its all in German, voices and things, etc.

Well, I could get along with this drawback... :d
But is it worth getting?

I mean: Will it make me feel like this?

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/wildbillkelso_berlin/MKB/MKB55Gramzow.jpg


As I mentioned before, I'm with a railroad museum club, riding some neat stuff like the one above and this here:

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/wildbillkelso_berlin/MKB/fgb.jpg

http://mkb-berlin.de

So I know how it feels sitting at the throttle...
I know many professional pilots are into flightsimming, even if the sim doesn't support the most important interface between pilot and aircraft (it's the one we use to sit upon...).

So what's it like driving a train with RailWorks?

MSTS - besides all its glitches & bugs - gave a rather nice impression of riding. I particulary loved the perspective when leaning outside the cab of a steam engine.
TRAINZ on the other hand was a tabletop sim, it never gave me the notion of imagining to actually sit inside the cab.

The 'roam' mode was already mentioned. You just climb the train and look where the track will lead you? No schedule to keep or task to fulfill?
Just strolling along?

And what about the scenarios?
Are they like MSTS? Trying to keep the timetable and then sitting in front of a red signal and wondering if it ever will turn green?

Any chance of a easy-to-use editor to tweak the timetable or chosing a different engine?

Or should I better stay with my "full scale" railroad, keeping me happy, even when not driving, but taking a break after some really exhausting carpentry? Like this last weekend's shot:

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/wildbillkelso_berlin/MKB/innenausbau.jpg
Just doing the interior finish of the corrugated iron hut...

Any opinions appreciated.

Cheers,
Markus.

Snuffy
May 24th, 2010, 04:54
Markus,

RailWorks is turning out to be pretty exciting for me. I highly recommend it ... especially if you're the type that enjoys just watching and riding trains. Although, most locos in the RWs (depending on quality of modeler and the like,) allow for in cab driving experience.

And now with the recent release of the German Trains Addition Update, you might find lots of good stuff there for you and your interest.

Me, I'm a problem child. The era of Americana that I want to simulate doesn't exist in many models of rolling stock or building scenery or the like yet (due to its newness I guess,) and unfortunately one can not cross MSTS stuff with RW or the reverse apply. SO, I have to pick up modelling and assest building at the same time that I'm learning how to build routes.

MSTS comes with much more 3rd party stuff, but MSTS is no longer supported by MS the same as MSFSX is no longer supported. MSTS can be found in certain places but I found the cost of the CD in most cases to be a little over priced for the age of the sim, and now possible prospect of it ever being updated.

I bought into the RW thing during the special intro offer and haven't been too disappointed with my purchase as yet.

Not sure what the cost is to you, but well worth it.

warchild
May 24th, 2010, 17:34
the interior cab in RW is good with seating positions on both sides. the main controls are also there and depending on the creator, can get quite advanced. Theres actually someyhing akin to a joystick for railworks and msts, but it's not the same as having your hand directly on the lever, althugh each control is seperate from the others.. There are no 2D views. everything is 3D. in cab, head out of cab, chase camera, you name it, its all 3D ( and some of the most complex xml programming i've ever seen ). Never having been in an enginers seat, i cant say if the experience for you will be real or not. it works for me.. I know just looking out the window, can be quite awesome, with some very unexpected side shows like you see in Henry's "Holy Cow" thread just above this one.. The biggest thing about this sim, like msts is that it isnt just lay dwn track and stand back and watch the little train go in circles.. climb in and drive. just watch where your speed is. i've flipped off several turns because i was moving too fast and not paying attention, run into other trains and watched something akin to the great train wreck of 1890.. it was incredible.. trains and bodies everywhere.. But it was also gamer over.
The switches could use some work. they dont trigger as well as i would like them too, but thats hardly ever a problem..
Scenarios and time schedules can be edited easily. Click an icon and bang, your in the editor and ready to rumble..
I personally believe its quite worth it. maybe there isnt as much available for it yet as there is msts, but honestly, i dont think you can go wrong with it.. Given time, there will definately be as much available.. i myself am looking to model the time period between the zephyrs and the streamlines. it doesnt exist yet, but it will.. :).. I believe that at least..
Pam

Wild Bill Kelso
May 25th, 2010, 07:35
Thanks for your answers, guys!

I start getting things sorted out.
TS/RW2010 appears to be the 'germanized' version of Railworks.
RW stuff seems compatible or - at least - importable.

Found an interesting freeware dev here:
http://sad-railworks.blogspot.com/

The good news for me is that the GERMAN RAILROADS team hopped on this train. Some of the routes and rolling stock they built for MSTS in the past (especially East-German routes of the 1970s/1980s) was just great. There are some routes in and around Berlin I know each siding's first name and their MSTS rendition was very authentic with a high recognition value.

As with aeroplanes, I'm not into modern stuff. Anything built since 1970 is just un-interesting to me...

But considering the potential of RW, I'm looking forward to upcoming releases.

Cheers,
Markus.