FSD Bonanza new screenshots.

[tigisfat]

It looks pretty solid to me:

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/walkeramerican/screenshots/Bonanza%20promotion/2010-4-6_22-56-50-453.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/walkeramerican/screenshots/Bonanza%20promotion/2010-4-6_22-52-46-406.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/walkeramerican/screenshots/Bonanza%20promotion/2010-4-7_0-51-50-860.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/walkeramerican/screenshots/Bonanza%20promotion/2010-4-6_22-26-14-544.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/walkeramerican/screenshots/Bonanza%20promotion/2010-4-6_22-34-26-455.jpg

[Ken Stallings]

That does look nice!

Ken

[peter12213]

Yeah thats pretty sweet!

[Railrunner130]

It is a sexy little hotrod!

As memory serves (I used to work for a Beechcraft dealer) this is an older airplane. I think the newer V-tails have another window.

[Slug Flyer]

It is a sexy little hotrod!

As memory serves (I used to work for a Beechcraft dealer) this is an older airplane. I think the newer V-tails have another window.

"Newer" in this case being a relative term, I guess.

These shots look better than the previous ones.

[ryanbatc]

Yeah because these shots use AA - I wish more developers would use AA - shots look horrid without it on.

[txnetcop]

Looks like FSD did a fine job on this. However, I haven't got squat for bucks until June, so I will just have to drool. However, FSD kudos guys. This is a HOT one that is very much needed for FSX
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[JAllen]

Going back to 1947 V-tails had another small window. This was supposed to be a V35B built in the '70s. I am looking for a photo of the prototype and haven't seen one with this window arrangement. So what model or variation is this representing? The last window was an option?

It looks really cool without another window and I like it. I like the reflective texture too. Looks highly polished like it's made of glass. A little too polished maybe?

I want one and can't wait to fly it!!

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

Those little windows could be found as an addon kit as well , like the tip tanks , this plane represents an early model that was updated in the 70's , the heritage version shown in the pic is their demo dating from 1947 and recently completely restored.
The first 168 of them left the factory with this painjob

[srgalahad]

yep, nice looking model and I'll get a better look when I get mine

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From the details that are publicly available there are a couple of confusing bits that may well get explained better in the docs when released:


the visual model is indeed a B35 with after-market tip tanks
the specs are a bit off - the B35 had the listed E185-8 (165HP) engine but FSD shows it as 205 HP so I assume that was part of the "70's upgrade" that also cost the owner the $$ for the extra fuel tanks.
The panel is also a later model (it would be nice to have an optional "original" panel with the piano-key switches but I won't fuss.)
the V35B designation didn't come until 1970 (2nd upgrade to the V35) so that's going to confuse people into wondering why it's not an IO-520 powered 285HP 'monster' http://www.ask.com/wiki/Beechcraft_Bonanza

Hopefully the model is as sweet to fly as the real plane - the earlier versions were a bit less demanding than the big-engine late models.

As for the rear window... the small 'wedge' window came in with the F35 in 1955 and was available as a retrofit to earlier versions. The large (teardrop) window was introduced much later in the 1961 N35 - also can be retrofitted.

As a Bonanza lover, I'll be happy just to have a nice model!

Rob

[JAllen]

My Uncle, Leo Wells, flew F86s in Korea and right after that he took my family for a ride in his Bonanza. Had to be '54 or '55 and I remember that brand new blue and white Vtail very fondly. Pure magic that has stayed with me all the years. There were no tip tanks on it and I cannot remember the windows but doesn't matter, I want a great model of one or as many models as are made for FSX. Line'em up I 'll take'em all.

Jim :icon_lol:

[tigisfat]

My Uncle, Leo Wells, flew F86s in Korea and right after that he took my family for a ride in his Bonanza. Had to be '54 or '55 and I remember that brand new blue and white Vtail very fondly. Pure magic that has stayed with me all the years. There were no tip tanks on it and I cannot remember the windows but doesn't matter, I want a great model of one or as many models as are made for FSX. Line'em up I 'll take'em all.

Jim :icon_lol:

There are tons of painters around here that will probably be willing to make it as you remember it once you've purchased the FSD Bonanza.

[clmooring]

Looks like a great add on. I have been looking at some photos and it seems the v angle on the tail is a shallow. Like the v is a little to open. It is probably just my imaginations.

[tigisfat]

Looks like a great add on. I have been looking at some photos and it seems the v angle on the tail is a shallow. Like the v is a little to open. It is probably just my imaginations.

You never do know. I'm sure the folks at FSD will have a look and get back to us.

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

The tail is set to match the angle on the design drawings that we have for the aircraft.

[Tim-HH]

Looks like a great add on. I have been looking at some photos and it seems the v angle on the tail is a shallow. Like the v is a little to open. It is probably just my imaginations.

Yes, I thought the same...just compare these two pictures: |1| (http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/walkeramerican/screenshots/Bonanza%20promotion/2010-4-6_22-34-26-455.jpg) |2| (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Vtailbonanza.jpg)

But maybe that's only an optical illusion :)

Greetings
Tim

[clmooring]

exactly those were the very pictures I was comparing. I found the real world photo in the wiki link provided earlier in this thread.

[Gibbage]

Nice catch. Should be an easy fix if the rudders are detached elements.

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

I used the drawing here to determine that angle and with this result , it looks fine to me in sim and in max so i think i will stick with it ,
back to wrapping up the beta testing and enjoying some flight time ,

[tigisfat]

Yes, I thought the same...just compare these two pictures: |1| (http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/walkeramerican/screenshots/Bonanza%20promotion/2010-4-6_22-34-26-455.jpg) |2| (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Vtailbonanza.jpg)

But maybe that's only an optical illusion :)

Greetings
Tim


I think it is an optical illusion because the screenshot version is banking to the right, making the right tail sit more flat. I literally just measured the angle on screen with drafting tools.

[anthony31]

And what angle did you come up with Tigisfat? I wish I had a protractor so I could measure it myself.

Just comparing your final screenshot in the first post with Tim-HH's link to the 2nd image on Wikipedia (both rear views) it certainly looks like the FSD has a wider angle between the V tail (maybe 135 deg??). Also, looking at Chuck's drawing plans it appears the angle for the Vtail is written as 30 deg from the horizontal (the writing is very small though so I could be wrong, although I do have a 30/60 deg set square which gives the angle as 30 deg) which would work out as a 120 deg angle between the V tail which looks more like the angle in the tail in the wikipedia pic.

EDIT: My apologies. After applying the set square to the screen it certainly seems like the FSD has a 30deg angle, just like the plans, while the wikipedia pic is certainly more than 30 deg. Perhaps the wikipedia pic has been shrunk horizontally giving a distorted pic or maybe some perspective distortion in the pic?

[stiz]

as all 3d modelers know (or will soon find out mid way during a project) not all plans are 100% accurate :engel016:

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

The 30* angle is what’s listed in all the docs i have as well , one needs to remember the trailing edge angle isn’t parallel to the leading edge and when the control surfaces are not locked the apparent angle from behind would appear sharper as a result .<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

Anyone remember this one from Airventure?4581

[TeiscoDelRay]

I sure am glad I lost my ruler. The plane looks great to me and I just wish they would release before I buy something else instead.

I am would like to know if the metal bump ribs in the ailerons and v stab are in the model or painted on.

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

It should be out for the weekend , the ribbing is done with bump mapping.
There are beefed up tails on the later versions and many early models had them retrofitted but there are a few early ones with smooth tails out there.
Those smooth tails can be reproduced with the repaint kit.