Will we ever see a decent F-111 for FSX ? .

[Carbine1]

I do not know what happened to the Iris F-111 that was planned, but it would seem this fantastic strike jet is not going to be gracing our FSX skies anytime soon.

Who if anyone will produce a good native version of this aircraft ?

Cheers all.

[SirBenn21]

I'm sure Smudge is still got it in the pipeline.

Ben

[bazzar]

We have the F111 on our books for release this year. Being in service with the RAAF, why wouldn't we?:engel016:

[Bjoern]

Don't forget the Spark Vark. :wiggle:

[strykerpsg]

We have the F111 on our books for release this year. Being in service with the RAAF, why wouldn't we?:engel016:
Forgive my ignorance, but under what label, freeware, payware, Iris, Milviz.....? I was also very much looking forward to Iris' release but it seems to have lost steam. Would love to see the pig represented in all it splendor, lipstick and all.

Matt

[krazycolin]

Milviz sold Iris the F-111F. However, due to the fact that Iris has not yet paid for the Vulcan, we are now looking at rescinding this contract.

nuff said.

[strykerpsg]

Colin, thanks for the brutal honesty in a trade where such a trait can be lacking at times. I didn't know the Vulcan was your model. I bought it and must say I love it, so thank you, of sorts for the fantastic work you and your team have done and continue to do with releases such as the B-52 and looking into the AS C-17. Admittedly, I checked out your website many months ago and was floored by what I saw, as far as many military models I have always wanted to see within the FSX environment.

Matt

[jmig]

Milviz sold Iris the F-111F. However, due to the fact that Iris has not yet paid for the Vulcan, we are now looking at rescinding this contract.

nuff said.

I am confused here? As a Beta tester for Iris at that time, I distinctly remember the development of the Vulcan. Pam (Warchild) was heavely involved with the flight model. I can recall David making changes to the visual model and VC per beta testing recommendations?

I am not questioning your veracity. I am sure there is far more to developing airplanes for FSX than I am aware and, I am curious what you mean by "our" model?

[strykerpsg]

John, perhaps a private message would be better for both parties involved. I would hate for bad blood to be brought into the open between two good companies, internal differences aside. Just my opinion.

Matt

[bazzar]

Forgive my ignorance, but under what label, freeware, payware, Iris, Milviz.....? I was also very much looking forward to Iris' release but it seems to have lost steam. Would love to see the pig represented in all it splendor, lipstick and all.

Matt

That's OK. We are Aeroplane Heaven. Further details will follow in due course....:engel016:

[strykerpsg]

My sincerest apologies for not recognizing your name with Aeroplane Heaven, great stuff!

Matt

[krazycolin]

Our model=3d mesh model, no code, no FM/FDE and no gauges.

kc

[tigisfat]

hmm.:kilroy:

[bstolle]

Milviz sold Iris the F-111F. However, due to the fact that Iris has not yet paid for the Vulcan, we are now looking at rescinding this contract.

nuff said.

Now THAT's some really interesting information!
Looking forward to the response from IRIS.

[Carbine1]

Guys, i started this thread with only the desire to learn more about a future F-111 project.

What happens behind closed doors involving two different company's is not my concern, nor should it be anybody's else concern that are not directly related to the issue between the two.

A public forum is not the place to discuss such matters.

Bazzar, that is really good news in regards Aeroplane Heavens position on a F-111 Strike aircraft.

Thanks for that info.

Cheers guys and lets keep this on topic.

Take care.

[Quixoticish]

Now THAT's some really interesting information!
Looking forward to the response from IRIS.

Why should there be a response? Stop trying to stir the pot and cause friction, you're nearly as bad as Krazycolin. Speaking of whom, this is a personal matter that should be kept between Milviz and IRIS and should not be smeared all over a public forum. Again.

I'd suggest the mods do some cleaning of this thread and get it back on topic as soon as possible.

[bstolle]

Why should there be a response? Stop trying to stir the pot and cause friction, you're nearly as bad as Krazycolin. Speaking of whom, this is a personal matter that should be kept between Milviz and IRIS and should not be smeared all over a public forum. Again.

I'd suggest the mods do some cleaning of this thread and get it back on topic as soon as possible.

Do YOU know exactly what's going on? Sometimes (or unforunately most of the time) companies simply don't respond until you go public. The warbirdsim disaster was discussed in public as well, and everything turned out ok.

[bazzar]

Well, the F111 has been a major piece of Australian aviation and the "dump and burn"shows, a regular feature at any major event here. We can't possibly not have an example in the inventory can we?! It's definitely a future classic warbird and will be sadly missed when it finally folds its wings for good.:engel016:

[Naki]

Well, the F111 has been a major piece of Australian aviation and the "dump and burn"shows, a regular feature at any major event here. We can't possibly not have an example in the inventory can we?! It's definitely a future classic warbird and will be sadly missed when it finally folds its wings for good.:engel016:


......fairly common here too at our airshows...will be missed (although there is one at the bottom of the Hauraki Gulf ..or did they pull it up?)

[bstolle]

Not only Australian history. I still remember when I first saw the breathtaking videos of the F-111 in ultra low level flight with the TFR and autopilot.
It's definitely one of the most impressive military planes ever built!

[krazycolin]

It's actually not personal at all. It's business. A question was asked. I answered it because our name was mentioned. I hardly think I'm airing dirty laundry or, as you say, smearing. That would imply that I was lying or being either libelous or slanderous. Hardly. If it weren't true, then why hasn't David/Iris responded with a C & D directed at me? Because it is true. Sad, and, even reprehensible but still true.

I'm seriously wondering what is the problem with being truthful and direct. There seems to be some kind of angst about this that I just don't get. It is, after all, a "public" forum where a question was asked that I answered. And, I am not attacking Iris. Merely stating the fact that they have not paid for a model that is still on sale. Where is the smear/attack in that?

You may not like the fact that I say this and that's ok. I don't like that fact that you think it's not ok for me to say it. It's un-democratic to try and stop me from having my opinion... don't you think?

As well, it's hardly off topic when my company's name is directly mentioned in connection with a model that was sold to Iris by us.

I would say lets agree to disagree and stop there.

kc

[harleyman]

I'm seriously wondering what is the problem with being truthful and direct. There seems to be some kind of angst about this that I just don't get. It is, after all, a "public" forum where a question was asked that I answered. And, I am not attacking Iris. Merely stating the fact that they have not paid for a model that is still on sale. Where is the smear/attack in that?


kc





I will simply state that this is between you and IRIS...its a private matter and had no business here at SOH...

you're a business man..handle your business outside of our walls please.

thanks

[michael davies]

Milviz sold Iris the F-111F. However, due to the fact that Iris has not yet paid for the Vulcan, we are now looking at rescinding this contract.

nuff said.

And Milviz have not concluded for the short body Huey mesh.

No slight on Milviz, just a fact of life these days for budding developers, be prepared for some long waits to close projects in this curent fiscal climate.

[Skittles]

In regards to the Iris Vulcan (or Milviz vulcan, apparently...), does anyone know whether the rear crew compartment is modelled? Or is it just the main cockpit. If I buy the vulcan I want the AEO and navigators seats!

[Nick C]

In regards to the Iris Vulcan (or Milviz vulcan, apparently...), does anyone know whether the rear crew compartment is modelled? Or is it just the main cockpit. If I buy the vulcan I want the AEO and navigators seats!

Just the main cockpit:

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/iris_vulcan.htm

[Skittles]

Just the main cockpit:

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/iris_vulcan.htm

As I expected. Never mind, I think with the whole thing modelled to the main cockpit standard it would have been a frame-rate murderer.

I was sat in the rear crew compartment of a vulcan the other day, would be nice to have one.

Edit: A modelled rear compartment I mean, not an actual vulcan.

Although it would be nice to own a vulcan.

[Nick C]

I think with the whole thing modelled to the main cockpit standard it would have been a frame-rate murderer.

Not that I found.

I've never stepped into one myself, but would have loved to do this. I used to see them taking off from RAF Warton back in the 70's...I was very young then of course ;)

Anyhoo, back to Baz and the F-111 which I also have a soft spot for.

[krazycolin]

And Milviz have not concluded for the short body Huey mesh.

No slight on Milviz, just a fact of life these days for budding developers, be prepared for some long waits to close projects in this curent fiscal climate.

OMG.... I forgot. Payment will be sent ASAP.


As for the Vulcan rear seats, they are indeed modeled but would have added way too many polys to the FSX version of the plane... Perhaps the next gen of M$FS? Who knows.

The same goes for the BUFF VC that we are doing. There is NO way we could have all 5(6) seats in there and keep frame rates at all plausible.

kc.

[michael davies]

OMG.... I forgot. Payment will be sent ASAP.


As for the Vulcan rear seats, they are indeed modeled but would have added way too many polys to the FSX version of the plane... Perhaps the next gen of M$FS? Who knows.

The same goes for the BUFF VC that we are doing. There is NO way we could have all 5(6) seats in there and keep frame rates at all plausible.

kc.

No problems, seems my address book got corrupt and mails were going to the wrong address.

Issue resolved and closed.

Kindest

Michael

[stiz]

I'm seriously wondering what is the problem with being truthful and direct.

If every developer was truthful and direct things would be an awful lot different .......

[thunder100]

After the excursion in developers issues(though maybe serious) can we go back to this thread?

I fly the Alphasim F-111 modified up to FSX(with e,g gauges off other Alphasim planes),which is better then nothing,but still its way off (not their mistake just old) an IRIS Tomcat or even(not to start controversy again) the Warbirdsim P-51 C.

So a good answer by Michael when he has a plan (years quarter is enough) would be fine.

And as a nobody buy minimalistic project a new Vigilante including their bomb of the rear version

Looking forward to planes rather then guidance to developers

Roland

[Gibbage]

Back onto the topic, is it possible to do the burp and burn in FSX? That would be really cool!

For those who dont know, THIS is a "burp and burn"

1708

They dump fuel out of the back, and light the after-burners, ignighting the fuel. A BIG crowd pleaser at air shows! Sadly, I never got to see one perform this myself. :frown:

[bazzar]

We call that a dump and burn here in Oz.

Every year at our Riverfire festival, until the anals legislated it out, a F111 would fly down the Brisbane river at night at around 100 feet, light the wick and pull up to very steep climb, disappearing into the clouds. The final effect was like an alien arrival and extremely impressive. As the city is literally on the river, the plane was below some of the taller buildings. If you happened to be watching the show from the upper levels of those, the sight would be even more impressive.

We are working on this effect. There is no way we could possibly produce an Australian version without it!

http://vimeo.com/6554648

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEXXArxxzM

and one of the F111 doing a show at our Indy car meet on the Gold Coast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ENsDFUlQ0&feature=fvw

[Cag40Navy]

We call that a dump and burn here in Oz.

Every year at our Riverfire festival, until the anals legislated it out, a F111 would fly down the Brisbane river at night at around 100 feet, light the wick and pull up to very steep climb, disappearing into the clouds. The final effect was like an alien arrival and extremely impressive. As the city is literally on the river, the plane was below some of the taller buildings. If you happened to be watching the show from the upper levels of those, the sight would be even more impressive.

We are working on this effect. There is no way we could possibly produce an Australian version without it!

http://vimeo.com/6554648

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEXXArxxzM

and one of the F111 doing a show at our Indy car meet on the Gold Coast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ENsDFUlQ0&feature=fvw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ENsDFUlQ0&feature=fvw)

have any previes of your F-111?

[Wozza]

will be sadly missed when it finally folds its wings for good.:engel016:
Yeah but you should have seen the smile on the F111 pilots face when he was interviewed picking up the new super hornets :D

[krazycolin]

I've seen that smile.... it then turns into a frown when they have to tank up for the 8th time after a 4 hour mission time... (fully loaded)....

[deafal]

We call that a dump and burn here in Oz.

Every year at our Riverfire festival, until the anals legislated it out, a F111 would fly down the Brisbane river at night at around 100 feet, light the wick and pull up to very steep climb, disappearing into the clouds. The final effect was like an alien arrival and extremely impressive. As the city is literally on the river, the plane was below some of the taller buildings. If you happened to be watching the show from the upper levels of those, the sight would be even more impressive.

We are working on this effect. There is no way we could possibly produce an Australian version without it!

http://vimeo.com/6554648

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEXXArxxzM

and one of the F111 doing a show at our Indy car meet on the Gold Coast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ENsDFUlQ0&feature=fvw


Here's a little roughie out of Ballina in FS2004 to tide the poor poms over. ;-)

http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/movies/F111C_Dump&Burn-s.AVI

Cheers,

Al

[tigisfat]

Yeah but you should have seen the smile on the F111 pilots face when he was interviewed picking up the new super hornets :D


The Aussies clearly know what to buy. The Super Hornet is affordable and very much has a fair chance at knocking a pesky F-22 or Typhoon down-----it's happened before, much to the chagrin of those that have paid for the pther and much more expensive products.

[deafal]

The Aussies clearly know what to buy. The Super Hornet is affordable and very much has a fair chance at knocking a pesky F-22 or Typhoon down-----it's happened before, much to the chagrin of those that have paid for the pther and much more expensive products.

It is a shame that the "F" is only a stopgap measure until the JSF comes on line. I'm rather partial to a Hornet, ever since the first time I sat in, climbed over and oggled A21-101 way back when. :isadizzy:

Cheers,
Al

[Wozza]

It is a shame that the "F" is only a stopgap measure until the JSF comes on line
History repeating itself :) those with a bit of age will remember the phantoms whilst we waited for the F-111's
At least the Hornets will be around for a tad longer

[deafal]

History repeating itself :) those with a bit of age will remember the phantoms whilst we waited for the F-111's

I posted something a bit nostalgic a couple of hours ago, for some FS2004 poms who can't get "dump & burn" working. :icon30:

http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/movies/f111c_dump&burn2.avi

Cheers,

Al

[tigisfat]

It is a shame that the "F" is only a stopgap measure until the JSF comes on line. I'm rather partial to a Hornet, ever since the first time I sat in, climbed over and oggled A21-101 way back when. :isadizzy:

Cheers,
Al


I keep hearing that: The F-22 and JSF are completely different aircraft with different capabilities brought to the table. Noone envisions the F-22 as a stopgap. The F-22 is pure @#$^s-out interceptor, and could mop the decks with pieces of F-35. The JSF is the new multi-role fighter. The actual flight performance and envelope of the JSF is roughly on par with the F-16. Bringing on the JSF is more about modern and efficient warfare with fresh unbeat aircraft than gross performance.

[deafal]

I keep hearing that: The F-22 and JSF are completely different aircraft with different capabilities brought to the table. Noone envisions the F-22 as a stopgap.

err, no, the "F" being the "Stopgap FA/18F". Sorry to have confused you.

Al

[Carbine1]

As the op of this thread i find it disappointing that it has drifted a long way off topic guys.

This was a thread started to ask about the F-111 Strike aircraft, not the Super Hornet, F-22, JSF or whatever else has crept into this thread.

I, as the original poster have asked for this thread to looked at and locked if deemed necessary .

The original point of this thread has been lost a long time ago.

Cheers.

[deafal]

I'll leave willingly.

See ya,

Al

[SADT]

have any previes of your F-111?

Same here Baz! :jump:

[Smudge]

Someone pointed this one out to me on Facebook the other week... not to shabby, will be interesting to see it completed.

http://www.f111-fsx.com/

DB.

[warchild]

I like the way it lands.. But to be honest, i miss our Australian pilot friend and the work we did together..

[Smudge]

He flies C-130's now.. :) Maybe you'll see a C-130 from IRIS in the future..lol

[warchild]

:::LOL:: I'll be happy with the Spartan..

[Smudge]

You're not the only one.. :D

[CG_1976]

:::LOL:: I'll be happy with the Spartan..

I have my Iris C-27 CAF Teaser and will wait very long like a fine bottle of wine coming of age:jump: for a final release.

[Carbine1]

Someone pointed this one out to me on Facebook the other week... not to shabby, will be interesting to see it completed.

http://www.f111-fsx.com/

DB.

Interesting, hope they fix the incorrect wing span on the RAAF Versions.

[hschuit]

Someone pointed this one out to me on Facebook the other week... not to shabby, will be interesting to see it completed.

http://www.f111-fsx.com/

DB.

Thank you David for the heads up... Tried to register as a user on that site to know more but no reponse sofar :crybaby: Does anyone know who/what is behind this best kept secret? Those screenshots are amazing... Looks like payware quality, check out this VC:

24770

[merida72]

Thank you David for the heads up... Tried to register as a user on that site to know more but no reponse sofar :crybaby: Does anyone know who/what is behind this best kept secret? Those screenshots are amazing... Looks like payware quality, check out this VC:

24770


I understand that it will be pay ...

[jp]

Updated the other day:www.f111-fsx.com

Lookin' pretty good in my opinion.

[YoYo]

Wow! Fantastic model! Cant wait for this bird.

http://www.f111-fsx.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_140_90_16777215_0___images_stories_F111_27-07-2011_f111-fsx_31.jpg

[LouP]

That's OK. We are Aeroplane Heaven. Further details will follow in due course....:engel016:

Was wondering what happened to you guys. Glad to see yer still around. Loved the mossie.

LouP

[tommieboy]

Nice to see this project is still alive......:mixedsmi:

Tommy

[Carbine1]

Looks good inside, i wonder if they know that they have modeled incorrect wings for the RAAF version.

All RAAF F-111 aircraft have the longer span wings, wrong air intakes as well.

The livery they are showing on the RAAF bird belongs to A8-131 a C variant.

All C variants feature a Triple plow 1 air intake.

Little details like this count imho.

Cheers.

[Naki]

Thre RAAF also operated G models...although did they have the longer wing as well?

[Carbine1]

Yes they did, they were converted from FB-111A airframes which all featured the longer span wings.

Cheers.