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Cratermaker
November 4th, 2008, 07:05
Does this cast doubt on ethanol as an economically viable endeavor or was this just a poorly run business?

http://gas2.org/2008/11/01/verasun-one-of-usas-largest-ethanol-producers-files-chapter-11/

Cratermaker
November 4th, 2008, 07:07
"Last edited by sophocles; July 21st, 2005 at 18:33."

Huh? and Uh oh? Something very "not right" there!

GT182
November 4th, 2008, 09:14
Don't feel bad CM. I've been seeing it too but with a different name. I think SOH has been hacked again..... but hopefully I'm wrong. I sent Ickie, or whoever gets them, a report about it lastnight.

About ethanol, good. I hope it all goes bottoms up. I don't want it in my gas but you cannot find any station in DE that is without it. It will ruin your engine over time. And that makes me :mad:. It's 10% of the gas we buy here.

Panther_99FS
November 4th, 2008, 10:15
Nothing wrong,
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Allen
November 4th, 2008, 11:53
About ethanol, good. I hope it all goes bottoms up. I don't want it in my gas but you cannot find any station in DE that is without it. It will ruin your engine over time. And that makes me :mad:. It's 10% of the gas we buy here.

Corn is food not gas. Glad to see ethanol go bottoms. If they want to make bio fuel they can make it out of somthing that we don't eat or feed to are farm animals.

azflyboy
November 4th, 2008, 12:58
Not surprising at all. While ethanol can work as an alternative fuel, producing it from corn is stunningly un-efficient, and the entire ethanol "industry" in the US is only financially viable as long as the government provides huge subsidies to producers to keep them from going bankrupt.

In this case, it sounds like the company just made some stupid decisions, and managed to hedge themselves so that they would be in severe financial trouble if corn prices ever dropped below the record highs of this summer.

Willy
November 4th, 2008, 15:21
Kind of like the housing market going bust...

GT182
November 4th, 2008, 15:58
Kind of like the housing market going bust...

Will we officially be in a depression if the bra industry goes bust? :jump::jump:

Dain Arns
November 4th, 2008, 17:09
Got a big VeraSun ethanol plant within visual distance of the house. It's only 5 years old. Lot's of folks concerned here where I live. Hate to see someone lose their job, especially this time of year here when it's getting cold outside. Been praying for them. :kilroy:

http://www.verasun.com/Facilities/aurora.cfm?ID=2&CFID=1856127&CFTOKEN=a4383f52b539fa35-6A674147-D6AB-71F4-2DACBB3954F57C1A (http://www.verasun.com/Facilities/aurora.cfm?ID=2&CFID=1856127&CFTOKEN=a4383f52b539fa35-6A674147-D6AB-71F4-2DACBB3954F57C1A)