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hey_moe
January 10th, 2010, 07:57
Flight sticks for PC gaming can be had for $50 or so for the casual fan, but if you're willing to spend some serious money, Mad Catz has you covered with Saitek's latest HOTAS (Hands-on Throttle and Stick) offering. While the variety of hat switches, buttons, and customization is impressive, the real secret comes from the way you control the game: the stick itself does not move.
http://static.arstechnica.com/Gaming/x65f.jpg

Just like modern military aircraft, the X65F uses force sensing technology. If you simply apply pressure to the stick, you'll control the aircraft. Twist the controls for yaw control. It takes a few minutes to get used to, and it's eerie to have such fine control over the plane with an immobile stick, but the product promises to remove hand strain and to allow you to play your games with much more precision than existing flight sticks.
The stick itself feels like a heavy piece of metal in your hand—you won't have to worry about keeping the stick steady or moving it around while you play—and after a while it simply feels as if the controls are reacting to your thoughts. You will the plane to do something, and it responds wonderfully; your hands need to do almost nothing to perform even advanced maneuvers.
http://static.arstechnica.com/Gaming/saitekforcesensing.jpg

The throttle is likewise high-quality, with a wide variety of buttons and a split design for games that feature dual-engined planes. You can lock the two throttles together for conventional flight as well. If you want to marvel at the array of hat switches and buttons, the official site (http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/x65f.htm) has the rundown of every feature you'll ever need.
So far at CES, this was one of the most impressive of the game-controlling devices that we were able to demo, and the product will be available to consumers starting in February. The price? $400. Gulp. SOURCE: ARS

Trans_23
January 10th, 2010, 09:20
That would be interesting to say the least. Thanks for the post Moe!

Wulf190
January 10th, 2010, 10:23
I'm not all that surprised by the price. Logitech put out a new HOTAS back in September/October that was a FFB setup and included rudder peddles, and that costs around $300. I haven't heard much press on it though. But what I'd want to know is how long could the stick and throttle hold up. If that can take a beating it and last the $400 smackers just might be worth it. Hey if it has fewer moving parts, less prone to breakdowns right? Plus the split throttle would be nice if running a multi engine aircraft. But my X-52 with peddles seems to be getting the job done just fine for the moment, and costs roughly $150 less.

jmig
January 10th, 2010, 13:55
I saw this in FSX. Impressive! The Thrustmaster boys use to buy the Thrustmaster and have it reworked to use stress sensors. The refit and the stick were about $400.

This will be great for F-16 cockpits.

GT182
January 10th, 2010, 14:35
Nice but costly. Too bad there are no rudderpedals with Saitek's HOTAS setup. Yeah no moving parts means a longer life, but what about the electronics and how long they'll last. Just a power surge can fry them, leaving you with a "dead stick".

John, some of the conversions for the Cougar can run as high as $800 and up. My Cougar and pedals cost me roughly $250 used. Rudder pedals to go with the Cougar can reach upwards of $1200 or more. Mine is all stock, but this Saitek setup makes you wonder where the future of joysticks/throttles is heading.

Navy Chief
January 10th, 2010, 14:43
Interesting!

While we're on the subject of controllers. I could use some suggestions for fastening/holding my controllers in one place on the desk so they won't move around? Previously, when I had a simpit, I merely wrapped velcro straps around them, as I had "arms" on either side of my sim chair. But now I use a big desk. Large pieces of velcro don't seem to work good at all with the bottom of my CH Fighter Stick and Throttle.

NC