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txnetcop
October 30th, 2008, 14:39
When Steve Sinofsky took the stage on Tuesday at the Microsoft Professional Developer Conference, the senior vice president was willing to confess some past sins with Vista. His presentation was the first public demonstration of the new Windows 7 user interface, and showed how Microsoft intends to change Windows 7 to fix the problems that exist in Vista, and indeed in earlier versions of Windows.


Even Microsoft can’t hide or ignore the cold reception that Vista has received. Sinofsky identified a few key things that caused problems. First, the Windows “ecosystem”, the third-party software, hardware, and user training, wasn’t ready for the extensive changes that came in Vista. The driver model changed, which caused lots of hardware headaches at launch. The User Account Control (UAC) feature broke applications and frustrated users who hadn’t seen the behavior in XP. Windows 7 doesn’t make any changes to the ecosystem, and provides additional ways that users can reduce the number of UAC prompts without turning it off completely.
Sinofsky introduced Julie Larson-Green, who demonstrated some of the most visible changes in the Windows 7 user interface. There’s a new taskbar that combines icons for running programs, non-running programs, and recently-used programs. It’s similar in some ways to the Apple dock, but has a few other features such as window preview. The taskbar now lets you drag and drop icons to reorder them to suit your taste, rather than being grouped by type or in left-to-right order based on when you started them. Users now have a lot more control over the notification area, those annoying little icons next to the clock at the right side of the tray. You can now select not only whether the icon itself appears, but how and whether its message balloons pop up.


Vista got a reputation for being bloated and slow. Sinofsky says Microsoft is addressing that by focusing on fundamentals. The development group is working to decrease memory usage, disk I/O, and power consumption, and to increase boot speed, responsiveness, and CPU scalability. He held up a tiny netbook with a 1GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM, and said that the current Windows 7 beta runs well on that hardware using only about half the available RAM.


At this point, Microsoft still can’t be nailed down on release dates. A pre-beta will be handed out to PDC attendees, but Sinofsky wouldn’t go any further than to say that the feature-complete public beta will be available “early next year” and the final product will be shipped “approximately three years after the general availability of Windows Vista.” That would put the ship date in late 2009 or early 2010, although a ship date any later than about September of this year would mean Microsoft would again miss the critical holiday sales season, just like they did with Vista.


Time will tell if they really listened, won't it?
Ted

Dain Arns
October 30th, 2008, 14:41
That mean I'm getting my money back? :costumes: I like Vista, but the price I paid for two copies of it, still pisses me off. :mad:

Panther_99FS
October 30th, 2008, 15:02
It's "official" now.........that Vista has "issues"....

jmig
October 30th, 2008, 15:45
So why have they canceled XP sales. Let us have a choice.

Cratermaker
October 30th, 2008, 15:55
It's "official" now.........that Vista has "issues"....:costumes:

demorier
October 30th, 2008, 16:56
I wonder what "issues" Windows 7 will have. Haven't seen an OS yet that doesn't have them.

Panther_99FS
October 30th, 2008, 17:03
I wonder what "issues" Windows 7 will have. Haven't seen an OS yet that doesn't have them.

Don't know...

But this admission by Microsoft *appears* to confirm my earlier comparison that Vista is akin to Windows ME and Windows 7 will be akin to XP...

Dangerousdave26
October 30th, 2008, 17:10
Don't know...

But this admission by Microsoft *appears* to confirm my earlier comparison that Vista is akin to Windows ME and Windows 7 will be akin to XP...

I have always felt that myself

Those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to die.

Lets hope they did learn.

GT182
October 30th, 2008, 17:15
I'll just wait, like with Vista to see how well it screws things up. :costumes: If Windows7 won't run 3rd party software, I don't want it.

And no, I'm still using XP.... I just wish I had XP Pro. Saw it at Office max for 299.00 and said no :censored: way, not for an OS that's no longer being sold by MS. Stores that still have XP Pro are ripping people off big time.

Lionheart
October 30th, 2008, 19:03
I hope Win7 does it... I was really frustrated with vista.. Pissed OFF!!!!!!!!!!!! and then they take away XP on top of that... arrghh..


Lets hope it works properly and good...!


Group prayer



Bill

gigabyte
October 31st, 2008, 02:35
I am probably going to stick my foot in my mouth on this one, but I have had no real problems with Vista and actually I do like it overall (ducking the rotten fruit coming my way). Mind you I do have a high tollerence for "Puter bugs" and I like figuring out how to make things work the way I want them to, and Vista has provided me pleanty of opportunity to "Play".

I must say though I have to agree with Panther, and Dangerousdave26 this does remind me of ME/XP, that is a very good comparison. One thing I really do commend MS for with Vista is the security features, as much of a PITA they can be (UAC can drive anyone nuts) with the state of the internet the additional security in Vista is needed and it works, I have 5 systems on my home network (4 running XP/XP Pro, and 1 with Vista) and on 3 seperate occations I have had Virus, trojans and worms which infected the XP machines but were stopped dead on my Vista Media Centre.

I am not in any way an MS booster and there are things that bug me about MS and Vista, but I think overall it is a good OS, it is just not quite as good as it could be, "Ears Hopin" Windows 7 is truly a big improvement.

BTW I am about 1/3 the way through a PC deployment project at work, replacing 75 desktops and laptops, it has taken us almost 9 months to get a stable image of XP Pro to use to upgrade our systems. The bottom line is there are so many many variables with software and hardware that even a very mature OS can have "issues".

GT182
October 31st, 2008, 08:58
No flak Gig, some people are just plain lucky. ;) And you be one of em. :)

txnetcop
October 31st, 2008, 09:31
I'll just wait, like with Vista to see how well it screws things up. :costumes: If Windows7 won't run 3rd party software, I don't want it.

And no, I'm still using XP.... I just wish I had XP Pro. Saw it at Office max for 299.00 and said no :censored: way, not for an OS that's no longer being sold by MS. Stores that still have XP Pro are ripping people off big time.

Gary you can use an OEM pack from here, no problems:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116515

Drake
October 31st, 2008, 10:22
Later Ballmer went into 'Ballmer Rage' and threw Steve Sinofsky into orbit. :d

From alot of things I've read on Win7 it looks like it going to be what Vista should have been.

ananda
October 31st, 2008, 12:15
From alot of things I've read on Win7 it looks like it going to be what Vista should have been.

Until it's released :rolleyes:

Wulf190
October 31st, 2008, 12:35
I'm planning on getting this before Christmas, as a back up. :d

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116515

GT182
October 31st, 2008, 13:09
Thanks TX, I'll check into it. :)