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CWOJackson
December 14th, 2009, 11:34
If it wasn't so sad this would be comical...it's getting worse.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34661

Snuffy
December 14th, 2009, 11:56
Let em pull out ... :mixedsmi:

Lionheart
December 14th, 2009, 12:43
Its a no brainer. The 767 wins by a land slide.

Sounds like Airbus almost got the deal through some 'under the table' activities, as usual...

Boeing and America need the work. Thats my humble two cents..

Bill

Emil Frand
December 14th, 2009, 12:48
I dont understand how this could even be an issue or why theyd even consider letting another country bid on this.

CWOJackson
December 14th, 2009, 13:21
There are some in Congress, in committees that control these things, that are opposed to awarding a major government contract without "competitive" bids. In practice, I can understand why you wouldn't want to give out contracts to a single bidder but if that's their concern then compare the current Boeing bid with it's previous bid and determine whether any changes in bottom line are justified/reasonable.

If Boeing is ready to build, give them the contract. Maintaining our own defense manufacturing assets and the national economy are just as much a part of "defense" as the tankers are.

Wing_Z
December 14th, 2009, 14:02
This all started here:
Congress killed an earlier $23.5 billion Air Force plan to lease 100 Boeing 767 tankers amid a procurement scandal that sent two former Boeing officials to prison and prompted the resignation of two senior Air Force officials.


The pendulum probably swung a little too far the other way in trying to make amends... defense contracting is a dirty business.

Allen
December 14th, 2009, 15:43
Let em pull out ... :mixedsmi:

Goodbye!

Tom Clayton
December 14th, 2009, 16:10
It's too bad that Lockheed's not still in the airliner business. Not just because of what the L-1011 might have evolved into by now, but because of what that aircraft might be capable of in a Tanker role.

Railrunner130
December 14th, 2009, 16:56
I've read that Northrop is posturing. Whatever it is, it's certain to cause yet another delay in a very, very, long delayed program.

I was hoping that the Dreamliner would've been roped into the tanker program, much like the 720/707 got roped into the KC-135 program.

tigisfat
December 14th, 2009, 17:05
I've read that Northrop is posturing. Whatever it is, it's certain to cause yet another delay in a very, very, long delayed program.

I was hoping that the Dreamliner would've been roped into the tanker program, much like the 720/707 got roped into the KC-135 program.

The KC-135 came before the 707. The original dash 80 is what the KC-135 is based on. 707s and KC-135s don't even share many common parts.

cheezyflier
December 14th, 2009, 20:58
Maintaining our own defense manufacturing assets and the national economy are just as much a part of "defense" as the tankers are.

i don't know about this kind of stuff but the above seems to make sense to me.

Bjoern
December 16th, 2009, 14:01
Take the A330 -> improve runway infrastructure -> be able to operate the KC-10 from those runways as well -> increased flexiblity -> awesome.

Donnybrooke
December 16th, 2009, 16:15
Well... I wonder who Boeing paid off this time? LOL!

Ten years from now we may know the story. Whether we will have new tankers is another matter.