Another new Connie ( C-121A )

[GypsyBaron]

There is another new Connie at AVSIM, created by Darko Tralic.

It is a C-121A made for FS9 but also works quite well in FSX. Full VC.

Here's the download link:

http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=141088

Paul

[Sidney Schwartz]

It's Conniepalooza! :icon_lol:

[Jagdflieger]

Thanks Gypsybaron. I'm a sucker for Connies.

[Blackbird686]

Goes for me as well. I have always been a fan of the Military Connies, including the YC-121, a rare turboprop version of the C-121. The C-121 airframe was fitted with the same turboprop engines that were used on the Lockheed C-133 and the added power really enhanced the Constellation's performance.

Thanks Gypsybaron:applause::applause::applause:

BB686:USA-flag:

[GypsyBaron]

The thanks should go to the creator, Darko Tralic.

I'm just a messenger :)

Paul

[Volker Böhme]

Hi,

I might be partial to Manfred Jahns team and the degree of modelling is quite good actually. But it is actually a Super Constellation (1049B/R7V-1) and quite a few details are better modelled by Manfred. But of course, getting this far is quite an achievent on its own.

Best regards,
Volker

[hawkeye52]

....the same turboprop engines that were used on the Lockheed C-133 and the added power really enhanced the Constellation's performance.

Thanks Gypsybaron:applause::applause::applause:

BB686:USA-flag:

Small correction: the C-133 was a Douglas bird, known to its crews as "The Weenie"

- H52

[Wild Bill Kelso]

... But of course, getting this far is quite an achievent on its own.

That's a quite diplomatic statement, Volker!

I'd put it this way:
I simply can't imagine that Darko's Connie could be a 'better' rendition in any aspect. Maybe I do him an injustice, but I don't even feel the need to give his bird a try...
Sorry for him and his work - but standing in a giant's shadow, it's hard to be seen.

Cheers,
Markus.

[GypsyBaron]

That's a quite diplomatic statement, Volker!

I'd put it this way:
I simply can't imagine that Darko's Connie could be a 'better' rendition in any aspect. Maybe I do him an injustice, but I don't even feel the need to give his bird a try...
Sorry for him and his work - but standing in a giant's shadow, it's hard to be seen.

Cheers,
Markus.

Well, Darko's Connie is derived in many ways from the FS9 L-049A
from John Howard White.
The VC features a fully functional FE station. Something that
is implemented by a 2D panel in Manfred's Connie.

I prefer to stay "in the VC" when flying, thus a minimum use of
2D panels is my preference.

I also prefer the photo-real texturing of the VC in Darko's Connie.
All the other Connie's I've seen are too 'flat' in texturing and look very artificial.

To each his own....

Paul

[Sunny9850]

Well, Darko's Connie is derived in many ways from the FS9 L-049A
from John Howard White.
The VC features a fully functional FE station. Something that
is implemented by a 2D panel in Manfred's Connie.

I prefer to stay "in the VC" when flying, thus a minimum use of
2D panels is my preference.

I also prefer the photo-real texturing of the VC in Darko's Connie.
All the other Connie's I've seen are too 'flat' in texturing and look very artificial.

To each his own....

Paul

That is indeed the beauty of it. Download it, try it...and either keep or delete it. With todays bandwidth it's not like in the "good old days" where one may have spent quite a long time to download a promising model only to find it lacked one thing or another that was for that particular user a MUST HAVE.

I have downloaded this particular Connie of course...simply because it is a Connie and to take a closer look at it. Just like I purchased every payware Connie available.

And like Volker I have noticed a few things that are not "correct" for a C-121A which is modeled here but there are also a few things that I do like quite a lot.

The fully functioning FE in the VC for example is one that we did discuss at length in the team ( Manfred is the one who would have to do most of the work anyways so we like to pile on until he cries uncle :wiggle:)
But in the end we decided to go with a compromise of just a few active gauges on the FE panel which you can see with a quick look over the shoulder during critical phases of the flight and a 2D panel to "work as the Flight Engineer" in less critical times.
The main reason for that was that a VC in general is a major FPS hog....and doing it this way combined with our rather complex systems model was what worked best for us.

Stefan

[Wild Bill Kelso]

I prefer to stay "in the VC" when flying, thus a minimum use of 2D panels is my preference.

It's exactly the other way around for me!
That's why I'm more than satisfied with Manfred's (and his team's) solution Stefan explained above. This 'full window FE station' amazed me right from the start.

I simply love hopping on the FE's chair during climb&cruise to do all the fine tuning on these tricky engines and I won't like to do this in VC with my head turned far right until it hurts... :mixedsmi:

Cheers,
Markus.

[Z-claudius24]

Hi,


I won't like to do this in VC with my head turned far right until it hurts

That's the problem of multicrew AC in FS2004
We simmers have only two eyes , two feets and two hands :)
Methink it's more of them at work in the RL Connie :)

[Ashaman]

It's exactly the other way around for me!
That's why I'm more than satisfied with Manfred's (and his team's) solution Stefan explained above. This 'full window FE station' amazed me right from the start.

I simply love hopping on the FE's chair during climb&cruise to do all the fine tuning on these tricky engines and I won't like to do this in VC with my head turned far right until it hurts... :mixedsmi:

Cheers,
Markus.

I cannot but quote. :ernae:

[GypsyBaron]

It's exactly the other way around for me!
That's why I'm more than satisfied with Manfred's (and his team's) solution Stefan explained above. This 'full window FE station' amazed me right from the start.

I simply love hopping on the FE's chair during climb&cruise to do all the fine tuning on these tricky engines and I won't like to do this in VC with my head turned far right until it hurts... :mixedsmi:

Cheers,
Markus.

Well I'm particularly biased to the 'stay in the VC' approach
since I fly FSX and spend most of my time in the
A2A B-377, managing the various systems on that
aircraft. ( Just finished and around the world series
of flights - 14 legs and 74 hours, all 'real time' -
went through 2 engines as well ).

I almost never leave the cockpits so the visuals from
the VC are very important to me.
As a retired engineer who used to do a lot of assembly language
programming, I can understand well the tradeoffs involved
in creating the environment for an aircraft.

I use TrackIR and have one of my X-45 hats set up
to change to 4 different camra views ( in FSX via
CameraDefinitions and HotKey assignments ).
I simply flick the hat switch back and I'm sitting
at the FE station. Flick right and I'm in the right seat.

I can look over my shoulder to scan the gauges, say
in the B-377 or Darko's connia, and when I notice
something that needs attention I can hop on back there :)
Also, I have dual Saitek Pro quadrants which provide
me with an abundance of switches to tweak thinks
like cowl flaps and intercooler flaps without having
to 'mouse' the controls.

So, alot depends on ones setup as well as personnal
preferences. I'm just thankful that I have all this
computing power at my disposal to be able to enjoy
our virtual world :)

As for the Connie, as a former aircrewman with somewhere
around 300-350 missions in C-121J's out of Tan Son Nhut
and DaNang back in '66 and '67, I'm glad to have as many
as possible in my inventory, particularly those that are
FSX compatible. :)

Paul

[Wild Bill Kelso]

Good point, Paul!

Isn't it great to have choices? :ernae:

[Tom Clayton]

And ain't it good to see a thread stay civil? This could have gone in any number of directions, including my toy's better than your toy. This thread's an example of how things are supposed to be around here!:applause: