Beech Duke

[Mongo]

I enjoy flying the RealAir Beech Duke alot. The level of detail in the vc is amazing, and the exterior model is just as good. One thing I've noticed since day one is that it seems to take a "mile" of runway to get up in the air. Am I doing something wrong or is it truly just this way?

[Marlin]

Well shoot if you love it THAT much, you should post some pics of it.

[Kiwikat]

It is known for taking up quite a bit of runway. I don't usually lift off until 90 or 95 knots, that's with a notch of flaps.

[Mongo]

Kiwikat - I'm not getting airbourne much before 110 KIAS with flap. ?maybe a joystick problem
Marlin - promise to post pics in near future...:ernae:

[Kiwikat]

Kiwikat - I'm not getting airbourne much before 110 KIAS with flap. ?maybe a joystick problem

You have to use quite a bit of elevator trim. By that I mean like 15 or 20 on the indicator.

[Mongo]

Thanks for the tip - I'll give that a try.

[ryanbatc]

Hmmmm, I can get it off pretty quick, flaps one notch, trim set to 15. Actually the flaps part is my own, I think it's not recommended by the POH. I rotate around 95kias. Climbout 500fpm until I get to 120, then I retract the flaps and gear.

[bstolle]

<TABLE class=tborder style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR title="Post 305226" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1>>Climbout 500fpm until I get to 120, then I retract the flaps and gear. </TD></TR><TR><TD class=thead colSpan=2>If you retract the gear as soon as you have a positive rate of climb you will
a) accelerate much faster to 120
b) be in a MUCH better situation if one engine quits

Regards

Bernt

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[ryanbatc]

I'm not a RW BE60 pilot, but this is how I do it in FSX. By the way, it takes about 1-2 seconds to get to 120, because by the time I'm airborne, I'm already at 100 kts. Plus, why would you retract gear right away? I depart from long runways (hometown rwy is over 10,000ft long). If you have an engine failure it would be better to land straight ahead. But if your gear is up then you have to put it back down, etc etc

[bstolle]

>I depart from long runways (hometown rwy is over 10,000ft long)

Ok, but if that's the case I don't understand why you use (not approved) flaps???

Regards

Bernt

[cheezyflier]

I don't understand why you use (not approved) flaps???



because slices of lunchmeat have proven ineffective in clinical testing :icon_lol:

[ryanbatc]

something like that...

Maybe because it's flight sim, and I can do whatever I want :kilroy:

[bstolle]

Of course, just wondering due to your PPL signature

[ryanbatc]

The plane I checked out in was a P28A Warrior. I don't have any complex endorsements or my instrument rating. So I don't know the rules of landing gear etc. I don't know when you decide to continue a takeoff with gear up, and when you decide to abort with wheels down

[bstolle]

>I don't have any complex endorsements or my instrument rating. So I don't know the rules of landing gear

That's exactly the reason why I wrote my first reply.
To give you, a real world pilot, real world operational tipps :)
You try to reduce drag as much as possible as fast as possible.
Using no flaps (if permitted or recommended) reduces drag even more.

[Mongo]

You have to use quite a bit of elevator trim. By that I mean like 15 or 20 on the indicator.


That's solved it - Thanks Kiwikat!

[Warrant]

Excellent bird, and a joy to fly.
Only wish there were more repaints (both military and civil).

[Mongo]

I agree with you warrant - it would be great to find more repaints (especially Canadian regs... not that I am at all biased that way :icon_lol:)

[Kiwikat]

That's solved it - Thanks Kiwikat!

Good to hear! She's really one of the best GA planes available right now. Even better with the RXP GNS430 or 530 installed. :jump:

[normb]

Beechcraft recommends 15 degree flaps for short field takeoffs in a Duke.

See:

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1969/1969%20-%200847.html

BTW: There is an outfit now replacing the recips with PT6's. Makes a good looking plane look even better.

[OBIO]

BTW: There is an outfit now replacing the recips with PT6's. Makes a good looking plane look even better.

How can the replacement of real aircraft engines with over-amped hair driers make a plane look better?

OBIO