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neutrino
December 5th, 2009, 12:07
Hi guys, after I released the new Realistic HUD for the F/A-18 a week ago, a lot of people requested to make it available for Dino Cattaneo's T-45C Goshawk. So this is done now, the HUD fits the T-45C perfectly :icon_lol:

I am waiting for Dino's permission to include the modified T-45 panel and aircraft config files in the HUD install package, and I'll post the download link here as soon as I get it!

Meanwhile you can check out the demo video I made featuring the Goshawk with the new HUD, which includes some formation flying and carrier landing near San Francisco:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Njnw3FwT9s

Here are are a couple of screenshots from the vid :)
http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/neutrino2009/T-45C_1.jpg

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/neutrino2009/T-45C_2.jpg

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/neutrino2009/T-45C_3.jpg

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/neutrino2009/T-45C_4.jpg

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/neutrino2009/T-45C_5.jpg

Enjoy ;)
J.R.

orionll
December 5th, 2009, 12:09
Great video and great work Jivko!

neutrino
December 5th, 2009, 12:19
Thanks, Orion! I am really looking forward to your new Multiplayer mission with the Nimitz for some formation carrier landings like in the video :icon_lol:


Great video and great work Jivko!

Mobayrasta
December 5th, 2009, 13:43
Really loved the video. Nice skills! Great Hud!

neutrino
December 10th, 2009, 06:40
Hi guys, I apologize for the delay, here is the link to the HUD:

http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?ID=7266

JamesChams
December 10th, 2009, 10:28
Hi guys, I apologize for the delay, here is the link to the HUD:

http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?ID=7266

Thanks, Mr. J. R. "neutrino" and Merry Christmas! :wavey:

UnknownGuest12
December 10th, 2009, 10:47
Wonder what to do to have more than one plane in the air....
thanks

jmig
December 10th, 2009, 15:36
That is a nice video. One question, however. Does the T-45 land without flaps as shown in the video? It would seem to me that you would want to use flaps on landing?

neutrino
December 10th, 2009, 16:22
That is a nice video. One question, however. Does the T-45 land without flaps as shown in the video? It would seem to me that you would want to use flaps on landing?

The correct thing of course is to land with full flaps, but I did not use flaps at all in the video. The reason is that Dino's T-45C reaches it's optimum approach angle of attack (about 8 degrees or the velocity vector centered in the E-bracket) at a very low speed of about 105 kts with full flaps. The real T-45C landing speed (with full flaps) however is about 120 kts. So I wanted to land at the optimum approach angle of attack AND at the real T-45C landing speed of 120 kts. I found that this could be achieved with flaps UP (no flpas) and speed brake ON. It also helps to land at a higher speed if you land at max fuel.

This is a screenshot from the video. You can see that the aircraft is at the optimum AOA (yellow donut on the indexer and velocity vector in the center of the E-bracket) at 119 kts:

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/neutrino2009/T-45COptimumAOA.jpg

peter12213
December 10th, 2009, 17:15
Your right neutrino, it doesn't quite behave as it should, its a great aicraft though and thanks for the HUD!

JamesChams
December 10th, 2009, 19:13
Mr. J. R. "neutrino,"

Thanks again for the fine work you've done to this...
The only thing I found missing in your Aircraft.cfg is the correct TAILHOOK settings for Mr. Dino's model.
You can find the settings here: Aircraft AI Carrier Configurations v1.9 by James F. Chams (http://x-plane.org/home/JamesChams/AI_Carrier_Addon_Aircraft_Configurations.txt)

==================================================


T-45C Goshawk v1.85
---------------------


Modify this "Aircraft.Cfg" File with the statements below:

...\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Boeing_T45C\Aircraft.Cfg



// Modified by James F. Chams @2009.
// ===========================

[tailHook]
tailhook_length=2.5
tailhook_position=-15.6, 0.0, -2.63 // -18.6, 0.0, -2.63 // Modified to align correctly with the Tailhook
cable_force_adjust=1.5



Launch Assist in coded into the model's (.mdl) file and is therefore NOT needed here.

==================================================


Thanks again! :wavey:

peter12213
December 10th, 2009, 23:35
Would someone please post a how to or a small video showing how to correctly use the TACAN, I'm using the ILS but can't quite get the tacan to work I read the read me but I'm still stuck a little!

Thank you mr JamesChams for the correct tailhook settings!

wilycoyote4
December 11th, 2009, 00:34
Peter----:guinness:

Perhaps this screeny can help. Since this is a T-45C Goshawk thread the screeny shows the Goshawk turning towards the carrier. Speed is high but that will be reduced quickly enough. Since you state you have ILS I will guess you have tuned NAV 1 to 112.00 on the radio stack popup panel.

Bring up the HUD Switches popup panel. At the top right in orange mark put there by me you see ILS and CAGE is on.

In red you'll see a 4-way switch set to NAV 1. When this is done the arrow appears which indicates the direction the carrier is moving towards. The arrow is outlined in yellow on the HUD. Marked in purple on the hUD Switch popup panel is a NAV 1 heading for the boat but basically it matches the arrow.

In blue on the HUD is a TACAN heading bug. In red on the HUD is the TACAN distance to the boat.

J.R. can probably explain more about it but this may help.:guinness::guinness:

peter12213
December 11th, 2009, 04:15
Yes i'm using NAV 1 ILS, Its the actual inputting of the tacan data I'm stuck on, using the hud I'm selecting tacan then entering 57 but how do I put in the X, then do I hit enter, on the hud panel to get it to appear! Its just the entering and getting the tacan to work that I'm stuck on, if you or someone could just simply explain the procedures I need to follow I'd be very grateful! Many thanks for your screen at least I know now what I should be looking for! Thanks Willy!

neutrino
December 11th, 2009, 07:50
Yes i'm using NAV 1 ILS, Its the actual inputting of the tacan data I'm stuck on, using the hud I'm selecting tacan then entering 57 but how do I put in the X, then do I hit enter, on the hud panel to get it to appear! Its just the entering and getting the tacan to work that I'm stuck on, if you or someone could just simply explain the procedures I need to follow I'd be very grateful! Many thanks for your screen at least I know now what I should be looking for! Thanks Willy!

Hi, in the Goshawk, you can enter the frequency by opening up the Cessna Radio Stack panel (Shift+2) - then place your mouse pointer over the button in the red circle and use the mouse wheel to select the frequency (112 MHz in the screenshot).

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/neutrino2009/Frequencyselection.jpg

In the Hornet, you can enter the frequency by pressing either the TCN or ILS button on the Up Front Control (UFC) panel, then press 5-7-X or 1-1-2-0-0-ENT. The 'X' symbol is entered from the button in the red circle and the 'ENT' symbol is on the UFC keypad. The shortest sequence would be to press TCN-5-7-X for the Nimitz or TCN-4-7-X for the default carrier. Note, that the ILS needles appear only when you are within +/-35 degrees from centerline!

F/A-18A/B Up Front Control (UFC) panel:
http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/neutrino2009/HornetUFCPanel.jpg

peter12213
December 11th, 2009, 08:18
Thats what I needed to know for the hornet thanks so much neutrino mate!

Now how to I get the Tacan for the hawk to work?

wilycoyote4
December 11th, 2009, 08:30
Thats what I needed to know for the hornet thanks so much neutrino mate!

Now how to I get the Tacan for the hawk to work?
Setting either TACAN or NAV 1 enables both. In the Goshawk setting NAV 1 is easiest. With the correct NAV 1 frequency TACAN is also working. The correct NAV 1 frequency depends on whether you have an Accel default carrier or Javier's Nimitz freeware as stated in the readme.

neutrino
December 11th, 2009, 08:40
Yes, I forgot to mention that the frequency for ILS and TACAN is the same. So once you have tuned the NAV1 radio to the correct carrier frequency, you can get both ILS and TACAN data. In order to see the TACAN steering arrow you need to put the 4-way steering switch on the HUD panel to NAV1 as described by wily here (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showpost.php?p=309053&postcount=13). If you put the switch to NAV2 or GPS, the steering arrow will show the data from the NAV2 radio (if there is a valid VOR at that frequency) or the GPS (if there is a GPS waypoint flight plan).

peter12213
December 11th, 2009, 08:52
I'm having problems I've followed your instructions to the letter but this is what I see on my hood!

My Tacan just won't work for some reason!

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8913/20091211174639578.png

Its saying NKW not TCN and pointing me back to the original airfield I came from, strange?

Its the same for the Hawk, it flashes up TCN then goes straight back to NKW what can be causing this!

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/349/2009121118230656.png

neutrino
December 11th, 2009, 12:28
Peter, I see what happens. When there is a VOR station at any of the carrier frequencies - 111 MHz or 112 MHz, it overrides the TACAN signal coming from a carrier. You have chosen the Diego Garcia airport, which happens to have a VOR at 112 MHz :icon_lol: So you are receiving signal from the VOR (its ID is NKW).

So if you really want to use that airport (I have to admit it's really nice - in the middle of the Indian Ocean), you can place a default carrier there (and use the 111 MHz frequency) rather than the Nimitz carrier. Diego Garcia is probably one of the very few sea based airports that have VORs operating at 111 or 112 MHz, so you will not have such problem at other airports and you can use the Nimitz carrier there.

wilycoyote4
December 11th, 2009, 13:56
Peter, I see what happens. When there is a VOR station at any of the carrier frequencies - 111 MHz or 112 MHz, it overrides the TACAN signal coming from a carrier. You have chosen the Diego Garcia airport, which happens to have a VOR at 112 MHz :icon_lol: So you are receiving signal from the VOR (its ID is NKW).....

Thanks neutrino, great detective work, :guinness::icon29::guinness: learn something every day for me.

peter12213
December 11th, 2009, 16:02
AHH thanks Neutrino, dammit yeah I love Diego Garcia but I'm so glad that its not something I'm doing wrong lol, to both you and Willy, I'm very gratefull and I'm going to try now from Ascension Island, thanks so much for your great support! :ernae:

I also have to say your knowledge of Diego is outstanding mate! unbelievable thanks so much!

wilycoyote4
December 11th, 2009, 16:28
AHH thanks Neutrino, dammit yeah I love Diego Garcia but I'm so glad that its not something I'm doing wrong lol, to both you and Willy, I'm very gratefull and I'm going to try now from Ascension Island, thanks so much for your great support! :ernae:

I also have to say your knowledge of Diego is outstanding mate! unbelievable thanks so much!
It's wily, actually Wil E. Coyote as well to some cartoon fans, :guinness::icon29::guinness: anyway I forgot you like that remote island. No matter, neutrino is far beyond me in knowledge. You could make some AI boat routes and/or use AICarriers2 to set carriers around such remote island locations. I have used Diego Garcia in FSX before a few times.

Prowler1111
December 11th, 2009, 16:43
1st all, thanks for a magnificent piece of freeware, one of it´s own class....
..now regarding that approach..
I´ll give it a fair pass, even as it was too fast, the break wasn´t that bad either, the pattern entry was also fair..
groove..man...it was a fair 2 wire on the 1st aircraft followed by a "Okay" 3rd wire for the 2nd aircraft BUT..it was on a foul deck..which leads me to the begining of the pass and the break..it was too fast..
other than that..awesome video..

...and please keep in mind..i´m pulling your leg...:bump:
Best regards
Prowler

neutrino
December 11th, 2009, 17:25
1st all, thanks for a magnificent piece of freeware, one of it´s own class....
..now regarding that approach..
I´ll give it a fair pass, even as it was too fast, the break wasn´t that bad either, the pattern entry was also fair..
groove..man...it was a fair 2 wire on the 1st aircraft followed by a "Okay" 3rd wire for the 2nd aircraft BUT..it was on a foul deck..which leads me to the begining of the pass and the break..it was too fast..
other than that..awesome video..

...and please keep in mind..i´m pulling your leg...:bump:
Best regards
Prowler

Hey Prowler, if you think that was a fast break, you have to check my Hornet landing (second part of the video) here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZplmhTGObQo) :icon_lol:

Anyway thanks for the objective evaluation of the passes, I especially appreciate your OK3 :icon_lol: As to the foul deck - the LSO is to blame :engel016:

peter12213
December 11th, 2009, 18:04
I'm not, I AM!!! BOULTER BOULTER BOULTER!!!

**** far to fast here... still drunk but look at that gorgeous TACAN thanks so much Neutrino, and inded Wily my mistake matey!!

shot of my horendous approach and ending in a boulter!

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3319/200912122565993.png

Far too low, far to fast but I was just loving the hood!:ernae: thanks so much you two!

(sorry for the language guys!)

neutrino
December 12th, 2009, 08:24
James, I was not aware of the corrected numbers for the T-45C, I noticed however your modification in the aircraft.cfg for Dino's F-14D, so they will go into the HUD package for the Tomcat :icon_lol:


Mr. J. R. "neutrino,"

Thanks again for the fine work you've done to this...
The only thing I found missing in your Aircraft.cfg is the correct TAILHOOK settings for Mr. Dino's model.
You can find the settings here: Aircraft AI Carrier Configurations v1.9 by James F. Chams (http://x-plane.org/home/JamesChams/AI_Carrier_Addon_Aircraft_Configurations.txt)

==================================================


T-45C Goshawk v1.85
---------------------


Modify this "Aircraft.Cfg" File with the statements below:

...\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Boeing_T45C\Aircraft.Cfg



// Modified by James F. Chams @2009.
// ===========================

[tailHook]
tailhook_length=2.5
tailhook_position=-15.6, 0.0, -2.63 // -18.6, 0.0, -2.63 // Modified to align correctly with the Tailhook
cable_force_adjust=1.5



Launch Assist in coded into the model's (.mdl) file and is therefore NOT needed here.

==================================================


Thanks again! :wavey:

JamesChams
December 12th, 2009, 12:01
Mr. J. R. "neutrino,"


James, I was not aware of the corrected numbers for the T-45C, I noticed however your modification in the aircraft.cfg for Dino's F-14D, so they will go into the HUD package for the Tomcat :icon_lol:
Great; looking forward to it! As you were... :salute:

Merry Christmas!

neutrino
December 13th, 2009, 07:11
OK, the HUD is now adapted for the Tomcat, download is here:

http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?ID=7302

J.R.