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PeteHam
December 4th, 2009, 21:10
I've just had a quick flight and it now sits at the top of My Favorites list :jump::jump::jump:

http://www.vanisleva.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10084


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Dimensionally identical to the first-generation Constellation (L-049), the post-war 749 had more powerful engines, additional fuel tanks, strengthened landing gear, and much improved performance. Equally good for shuttle hops and long-range flights, L-749 Connies entered service with major 1950s carriers such as Eastern, TWA, B.O.A.C., Air France, KLM, Quantas, and many others. Another customer was the Air Force, which placed an order for ten aircraft (designated C-121A) in 1948. Included in this sim package are seven models and five textures, covering variants with and without "Speedpak" cargo pannier, weather radar, and "jetstack" exhausts. KLM texture by Jaap de Baare (representing "Flevoland", the last 749 in flying condition today). TWA texture N6003C "Star of America" by Hans Herrmann. EAL, Air France, and MATS textures by Manfred Jahn (including "8609", a frequent visitor to airshows all over the world until 2005). Panel textures and additional gauges by Diego S. Barreto, model and VC by Manfred Jahn, panels, gauges, and animations by Hansjoerg Naegele, flight dynamics by Luis Pallas, wingview angles, lights, and exhaust effects by Bill Tyne and Roland Berger, checklist and documentation by Volker Boehme, flight test and handling research by Stefan Werner. The 749 project has been hosted by Tom Gibson's Calclassic forum at http://calclassic.proboards55.com.
Filename:lockheed749.zipLicense:FreewareAdded:5th December 2009Downloads:83Author:Manfred Jahn and 749 TeamSize:37041kb

Chacha
December 4th, 2009, 21:13
Thanks Pete!

:applause:

Favorite List.... :jump:

Z-claudius24
December 4th, 2009, 22:21
Hi,

Good news !
Downloading now :)

adhockey
December 5th, 2009, 00:04
Manfred and Company continue to flesh out the Connie bloodline.

Looking forward to this one!

Cees Donker
December 5th, 2009, 01:42
I don't fly ailiners regularly, but I'll have to make an exeption for this one!

:applause:

Cees

thedude247
December 5th, 2009, 03:42
I'm there!!!!!!!!! Good Stuff.:applause:

Ferry_vO
December 5th, 2009, 05:10
Thanks for the heads-up! :jump:

I see the real N749NL several times a year, and these Connies are the first that look correctly modelled IMHO. Every other has the 'hump' or the landing gear wrong. So far the venerable FSDezigns Short-nose Connie was my favourite, but that will now be replaced with this one! (Still keeping the sounds of the L-049 though; most realistic I've heard yet!)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsscr420.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsscr422.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsscr423.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsscr424.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsscr425.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsscr426.jpg

:applause:

P.s. The speedpack model is a really nice addition!

papab
December 5th, 2009, 07:44
Thanks for the find:applause:

I have there G & H models already and now I can add this to my hanger!

Rick

Jagdflieger
December 5th, 2009, 08:01
This probably my favorite version of the great Lockheed Constellation.

Many thanks to Manfred and his team artists!

LonelyplanetXO
December 5th, 2009, 09:34
Argh! Another manual to read! :isadizzy: This looks great, have to go get her now. Spent a few hours yesterday in the Super Connie and was planning to fly her again today. Maybe this one instead. After the great advice here at SOH and much time perusing the manual I seem to have this bird sorted, and man is it complex, detailed, visually amazing and very entertaining.
One thing I couldn't understand with the fuel management was why if you correctly select tanks 2A/3A, the board shows 2B/3B. The manual kind of explained it (FS limitation in the number of tanks/cross feeds you can have) but for the first time yesterday I risked letting 2B/3B run dry and sure enough the wingtip "A" tanks cut in...phew!
I've never been into airliners before but Manfred & his team have really produced something extroadinary. The connies are payware standard; true, new FS classics!

Thanks guys :)
LPXO

Cowboy1968
December 5th, 2009, 10:24
These are truely the best airliners to fly........I will take a prop over a jet any day'

hopefully they will do the 049, 649 and the old 6-69, our of all the connies built....for the sim...none has been produced as a C-69......that is a missing part in the Connie hanger.

Cazzie
December 5th, 2009, 10:46
Fantastic Pete! :ernae::medals::applause:

Caz

Flyboy208
December 5th, 2009, 11:16
Great news, gonna do me some Connie flying tonight ! Mike:jump:

bpfowler
December 5th, 2009, 12:19
cowboy, look at the FSDZ 049. think'n there's a c-69 version by gary harper. classy usaac paint

aeronca1
December 5th, 2009, 12:31
Is this available elsewhere? It keeps downloading as a 0 kb file :-(

Never Mind got it at flightsim.com :jump:

Blackbird686
December 5th, 2009, 12:49
I have a seperate hangar for all of these Connies, from the L-049 to the YC-121. This will be a nice addition too. Thanks Pete...:ernae:

BB686:USA-flag:

Moses03
December 5th, 2009, 14:08
This probably my favorite version of the great Lockheed Constellation.



Might have to agree with Jag. Fantastic work from Manfred & Team!

FlyTexas
December 5th, 2009, 14:10
Simply gorgeous. :medals:

Brian

Cowboy1968
December 5th, 2009, 15:27
Does anyone know wher i can get the C-69 paint at?

Sunny9850
December 5th, 2009, 15:32
Thanks for putting her out there Pete, I figured Volker or Roland would have already done that :salute:

Flightsim.com
http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=141458

Avsim.com
http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=141034

For sounds I am still not sure which one I personally like best....but either one of the two choices mentioned in the Readme by Manfred do work quite well. I'll have to try the L-049 again as well.

As for Manfred making a new L-049....who knows as far as I know right now he is taking a well deserved break.

LPXO : The reason why the fuel levers in the L-1049 do only have the 2A and 3A markings is because there simply is no 2B 3B valve in the airplanes plumbing. IF the additional tip-tanks are installed they are connected to 2B and 3B directly....no additional valves. Take a look at the 9-Tank configuration picture we included with the manual for the Super-Connies. That should explain it. The tool tip may tell you where the fuel is currently coming from ( can't remember now if that's how it ended up )

Good news is that if you learned the L-1049 systems the L-749 is a piece of cake.....no more tip tanks on her.

Cowboy: For the L-649 : Remove the 2A and 3A entries in the aircraft.cfg or better yet start those two lines with // and you have the 4 tank L-649. Visually there is no difference other than possibly the eye-brow windows on the cockpit. The rest of the modifications was under the skin so to speak.

As for the C-69 that is indeed the L-049. Same beast different name.

Cheers
Stefan

For those who really want to know the greatest airplanes ever a little better here is a great story line on the old gal.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19260104/Lockheed-Constellation-From-Excalibur-To-Starliner

Cowboy1968
December 5th, 2009, 16:18
Thanks for putting her out there Pete, I figured Volker or Roland would have already done that :salute:

Flightsim.com
http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=141458

Avsim.com
http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=141034

For sounds I am still not sure which one I personally like best....but either one of the two choices mentioned in the Readme by Manfred do work quite well. I'll have to try the L-049 again as well.

As for Manfred making a new L-049....who knows as far as I know right now he is taking a well deserved break.

LPXO : The reason why the fuel levers in the L-1049 do only have the 2A and 3A markings is because there simply is no 2B 3B valve in the airplanes plumbing. IF the additional tip-tanks are installed they are connected to 2B and 3B directly....no additional valves. Take a look at the 9-Tank configuration picture we included with the manual for the Super-Connies. That should explain it. The tool tip may tell you where the fuel is currently coming from ( can't remember now if that's how it ended up )

Good news is that if you learned the L-1049 systems the L-749 is a piece of cake.....no more tip tanks on her.

Cowboy: For the L-649 : Remove the 2A and 3A entries in the aircraft.cfg or better yet start those two lines with // and you have the 4 tank L-649. Visually there is no difference other than possibly the eye-brow windows on the cockpit. The rest of the modifications was under the skin so to speak.

As for the C-69 that is indeed the L-049. Same beast different name.

Cheers
Stefan

For those who really want to know the greatest airplanes ever a little better here is a great story line on the old gal.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19260104/Lockheed-Constellation-From-Excalibur-To-Starliner

Yes I know they were the same beast.

I have been looking for that C-69 point that was mentioned and can't find it, Does anyone have it?

Sunny9850
December 5th, 2009, 16:29
These are truely the best airliners to fly........I will take a prop over a jet any day'

hopefully they will do the 049, 649 and the old 6-69, our of all the connies built....for the sim...none has been produced as a C-69......that is a missing part in the Connie hanger.


Sorry just tried to reply to your post.

Cowboy1968
December 5th, 2009, 16:38
Sorry just tried to reply to your post.

I wasn't trying to jump you, just saying yes I know they were the same beast, and thank you for the suggestion fo the L-649 i have actually done that...and was just flying it.....Thanks

Cazzie
December 5th, 2009, 16:44
This really should be a sticky! :ernae:

Caz

Pete, I swear, I could just sit back and listen to the start-up all day! My memories slip back to a young boy smitten my aviation and instead of pushing his father to go for the mountains or the ocean, I had him take me to major airports so i could see Connies land and depart, I lived a fractured life. Funny thing, my old daddy never did turn me down! Think he had latent aviation bug too. :icon_lol::medals:

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Flyboy208
December 5th, 2009, 18:07
This latest offering from Manfred & Team is just the Bees Knees! Love it!

Some screenshots from my initial testing at Diego Garcia with The Eastern Speedpack version, a few of the MATS C-121A at modern day Beale AFB and a few departure shots at EHAM with the KLM ship.

Brilliant work Manfred and Team! Mike :ernae::applause:

Flyboy208
December 5th, 2009, 18:09
10 more piccies ...

Astoroth
December 5th, 2009, 18:16
Anyone have any idea why when I click on the cowl flaps icon to open or close them, my speedbrake activates? Killed me twice before I figured out what was happening....

Tom Clayton
December 5th, 2009, 18:44
This really should be a sticky!
Gimme time Caz - I just got here!:isadizzy::icon_lol:

Christmas came early this year - thanks to everyone that had a hand in her production!:icon29:

Sunny9850
December 5th, 2009, 19:58
Anyone have any idea why when I click on the cowl flaps icon to open or close them, my speedbrake activates? Killed me twice before I figured out what was happening....

Bugga really thought we would make it through the first day without someone having an issue somewhere :kilroy:

And unfortunately I have no immediate answer for you either. Since the L-749 does not in fact have a speedbrake I don't know why it would deploy one for you. There is a drag penalty coded into the cowl flaps...so when they are open 100% they act like little speedbrakes.......but it should not drop you out of the sky.

So let's sort this out step by step.

1. What configuration is the airplane in when this happens ?? (Speed,Flaps,Gear etc)
2. How much are the CFs opened in % ??? (Should be <30% pretty much any time she is airborne)

If you want to completely get rid of the Speedbrake code open the aircraft.cfg and look for this line:

spoiler_limit = 70.000

and change it to

spoiler_limit = 00.001

But I think there is something else not quite right....I have about 100h testing this bird and have had no such mishaps.

Stefan

And before I forget again....thank you all for the kind words. I am sure Manfred will be tickled to read these comments as well.

PeteHam
December 5th, 2009, 23:00
The more I fly the 749 the more I like it. :jump:

Out of all the Connies Manfred & Team have produced , I would have to say the 749 is my favorite.

I love the cargo pod and I can't wait to see the range of cargo paints to come ( both real and fictional ).

Once again my thanks to Manfred & Team for your dedication and gift to us. :applause: :applause:

:ernae:

Pete.

Sunny9850
December 5th, 2009, 23:17
The more I fly the 749 the more I like it. :jump:

Out of all the Connies Manfred & Team have produced , I would have to say the 749 is my favorite.

I love the cargo pod and I can't wait to see the range of cargo paints to come ( both real and fictional ).

Once again my thanks to Manfred & Team for your dedication and gift to us. :applause: :applause:

:ernae:

Pete.

I'll take my "pay" in the form of a Stearman flight mate :icon29::icon29:

Stefan

PeteHam
December 5th, 2009, 23:59
I'll take my "pay" in the form of a Stearman flight mate :icon29::icon29:

Stefan

Anytime :jump: ..... you get down here and I'll shout ya the flight ( I'll even let you do 'stick time' ) ..... and I'll buy you a Kiwi beer :ernae:

Pete

Wild Bill Kelso
December 6th, 2009, 04:40
... except a huge

Thank you! :applause:

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/wildbillkelso_berlin/749_eddi1.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/wildbillkelso_berlin/749_eddi2.jpg


I saw the MATS Connie at Tempelhof back in 1998 at the airlift anniversary show and took some 'analogue' pics back then.
Maybe I should fire up my slide scanner once again...

Wild Bill Kelso
December 6th, 2009, 05:27
Ahhh - great!

There were some other fellows taking photographs then too:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(The-Constellation/Lockheed-C-121A-Constellation/1261273/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockheed-C-121A-Constellation/0011242/L/

Volker Böhme
December 6th, 2009, 05:33
... hopefully they will do the 049, 649 and the old 6-69, ....



Hi Cowboy,

Sunny already mentioned it, but the 749 is very close to the 649. I doubt that there will be a dedicated version for it. Externally, the only difference is the lack of outboard wing fuel dump ports on the trailing edge between aileron and flaps (see manual ch. 2).
If you want to simulate the use of a 649 or 649A, just don't use the outboard fuel tanks. These planes have a lower MTOW (see manual p. 2) and fuel sequencing is slightly different (see operation section). But that's it. These types are pretty much covered in the current release.

Best regards,
Volker

Volker Böhme
December 6th, 2009, 06:37
Anyone have any idea why when I click on the cowl flaps icon to open or close them, my speedbrake activates? Killed me twice before I figured out what was happening....

Hi,

I couldn't reproduce your effect on my system. You can open or close cowls by SimIcon, keyboard shortcut or the dedicated switches on the propeller control subpanel.
However, I found that using the speedbrake keyboard shortcut will actually open the main gear bay doors. Seems like there is some old animation code still in the system dating back to the Starliner. Just don't use the speedbrake and you're fine.

Best regards,
Volker

Sunny9850
December 6th, 2009, 10:00
Anytime :jump: ..... you get down here and I'll shout ya the flight ( I'll even let you do 'stick time' ) ..... and I'll buy you a Kiwi beer :ernae:

Pete

Deal.... I'll have to make sure I plan this right with you being down under or on the flip side season wise :applause::applause:

Stefan

Astoroth
December 6th, 2009, 10:22
Bugga really thought we would make it through the first day without someone having an issue somewhere :kilroy:

And unfortunately I have no immediate answer for you either. Since the L-749 does not in fact have a speedbrake I don't know why it would deploy one for you. There is a drag penalty coded into the cowl flaps...so when they are open 100% they act like little speedbrakes.......but it should not drop you out of the sky.

So let's sort this out step by step.

1. What configuration is the airplane in when this happens ?? (Speed,Flaps,Gear etc)
2. How much are the CFs opened in % ??? (Should be <30% pretty much any time she is airborne)

If you want to completely get rid of the Speedbrake code open the aircraft.cfg and look for this line:

spoiler_limit = 70.000

and change it to

spoiler_limit = 00.001

But I think there is something else not quite right....I have about 100h testing this bird and have had no such mishaps.

Stefan

And before I forget again....thank you all for the kind words. I am sure Manfred will be tickled to read these comments as well.


First off, let me say that I was not complaining, I love this aircraft!

That being said, I do 90% of my flying from a custom minipanel that I have designed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Astoroth/mini.jpg

The little red light just above the DME and next to the gear indicator is a speedbrake indicator light. when it shows, it means the speedbrake is deployed.

When I load up the aircraft, I start in the 2D then switch to the VC, to initialize any XML guages or coding that might be. Then I switch to my minipanel.

when I load the L-749, the indicator is off. But when taxiing, any time I come to a full stop, the indicator comes on. I press the / key, and hear a click, like a switch has been thrown. Press / again, and the indictor will go off. put flaps down 1 notch and take off. Raise gear, raise flaps, gain some speed and start climb. Go into 2D, click on the cowl flaps indicator to shut cowl flaps. Come back to minipanel, and the indictor is back on. Fastest I can go in level flight with no flaps and gear up is 153 knots, at 500 feet. Press the / key twice, indicator goes off and speed starts to climb. Any time I adjust the cowl flaps, the indicator comes back on, and speed starts dropping quickly. Also comes on sometimes when I drop flaps, or when raising flaps. Sometimes if I make a hard bank. I've learned to quickly press the / key twice anytime I see that indicator pop on, or my speed will very quickly fall to no faster than 153 knots. Not a big deal not that I have figured out it takes 2 presses on the / key, I've learned to deal with it. Was just wondering why it happens. Probably has something to do with my flying from the minipanel....I just like to take in the scenery while I fly. Not a big deal.

I still love the plane, it's my favorite propliner by far! Thanks for the great bird!

~A~

Tom Clayton
December 6th, 2009, 11:06
If you want a good informative minipanel, get the Stratojet Merlin and copy that one. You'll lose your power level gauges, but just about everything else is there. I wonder if the issues you're having with the spoilers might not be the result of some conflicting code between the Connie's gauges and your minipanel.

Astoroth
December 6th, 2009, 11:32
I wonder if the issues you're having with the spoilers might not be the result of some conflicting code between the Connie's gauges and your minipanel.

Very well could be, it's just something I threw together....

Sunny9850
December 6th, 2009, 13:15
Well I'd guess that just about covers that :jump::jump:. Because of the special coding that is used to make the Connies ( all of them use similar but different versions ) it's generally a bad idea to add anything that might influence those gauges in any way.

And your mini panel certainly qualifies there.

Stefan

If you absolutely need that added panel follow the cfg edit I suggested in my earlier post and at least there will not be any drag associated with the spoiler action.

daypharris
December 6th, 2009, 15:19
:ernae: WOW!!!!!!!!! I LOVE THIS NEW CONNIE:jump:
Did my first successful longrange testflight from KBOS to KLAX this afternoon.
The L-749 is probably THE BEST CONNIE ever, and it's FREE!!:USA-flag:

Many thanks to Manfred and his great team!
Fantastic work:medals::applause:

daypharris

Tom Clayton
December 6th, 2009, 16:22
I think I've found another bug. I can't get the prop reverse activated without actually clicking the lights on the panel. Ctrl_F2 won't work. I switched to the Starliner to double check and it still works fine there. the reason the control key function is more important to me is because I have the prop pitch axis (all four at once) assigned to a rotary dial on my X52 and then a button is tied to the Ctrl+F2 function. That way, I can pull the pitch back and get into reverse without having to take my hand off the stick or throttle.

Sunny9850
December 6th, 2009, 18:40
I think I've found another bug. I can't get the prop reverse activated without actually clicking the lights on the panel. Ctrl_F2 won't work. I switched to the Starliner to double check and it still works fine there. the reason the control key function is more important to me is because I have the prop pitch axis (all four at once) assigned to a rotary dial on my X52 and then a button is tied to the Ctrl+F2 function. That way, I can pull the pitch back and get into reverse without having to take my hand off the stick or throttle.


Hi Tom that may be an unwanted side effect of a small change we have made to the way the throttle position is processed.
When you open the status window with the throttle closed what do you get for control position or percentage ???

If you want to test something real quick find these lines in the aircraft.cfg

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type= 0
Engine.0= 6.562, -30.417, 0.000 //-31.417
Engine.1= 8.858, -14.701, -1.969
Engine.2= 8.858, 14.701, -1.969
Engine.3= 6.562, 30.417, 0.000 //31.417
fuel_flow_scalar= 1.0320
min_throttle_limit=0.0300 // was 0.00990
master_ignition_switch= 0 //Master Ignition Switch
max_contrail_temperature=-20 //choose temp c below which contrails occur

and change the bold one back to the old value....there are other side-effects as usual in this case related to the hydraulic system model....just want to see if you then get your controls back.

Stefan

aeronca1
December 7th, 2009, 06:43
The first "official" Air Force One was a C-121A. How much different externally was it from the L-749?

In any case, I'd love to see a repaint even if fictional!

Z-claudius24
December 7th, 2009, 06:45
Hi,

Small clip:

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee295/belga8/?action=view&current=Constellation.flv

Cowboy1968
December 7th, 2009, 07:23
Actually the first officialy dedicated aircraft for use by the President of the United States was a Douglas VC-118 (DC-6B). It was used by Pres. Harry S. Truman and was named Independence.

Pres. Dwight D. Eisenhower chose a VC-121 (a Super Constellation) and it was named Columbine III.

Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt never had an officially designated plane. He used what ever was available. Fact is his trip to meet Churchill, in North Africa, was flown on a Boeing B.314 Clipper operated by Pan American.

Volker Böhme
December 7th, 2009, 07:33
The first "official" Air Force One was a C-121A. How much different externally was it from the L-749?


Hi,

download the new 3 military liveries - it's just like the white-topped one. The nine C-121A were cargo planes and had a cargo door and a stronger floor than the passenger planes.
The first of the lot of ten was a VC-121B, designed as a VIP transport right away. Actually, the Air Force expected Dewey to win the 1948 election and had this plane prepared for him, but to their surprise, it was Truman who won (and retained his previous plane). The VC-121B was having a passenger door and a standard floor only.
The 121A's were converted to VIP carriers, but apparently retained the cargo doors (and probably the cargo floor).
I would expect the 'Air Force One' to look just like any other VC-121A. No fancy different engines or something like that.

Bet regards,
Volker

chrisf36
December 7th, 2009, 07:34
Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt never had an officially designated plane. He used what ever was available. Fact is his trip to meet Churchill, in North Africa, was flown on a Boeing B.314 Clipper operated by Pan American.

Actually Roosevelt had a special VC-54C named "Sacred Cow" that was designed for his use. I think he only flew on it a couple times, but it even had a specially designed elevator to lift him on board.

Chris



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Maarten -
December 7th, 2009, 09:36
Hi there,

The successor of the 'Sacred Cow' was the Douglas VC-118-DO "Independence". Laid down as a DC-6 (the DC-6B did not exist yet) for American Airlines, it was taken over on the production line by the USAF. At least one photo exists of the still bare metal aircraft standing outside before the new window arrangement was applied.

FSX - FSX Modern Military FS2004 OR FSX Douglas VC-118-DO 'The Independence'
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http://www.flightsim.com/o/VC118DOX.GIF FS2004 or FSX Douglas VC-118-DO 'The Independence'. This Douglas VC-118-DO was the personal aircraft of President Harry S. Truman. It was named 'The Independence' after President Truman's home town in Missouri. The aircraft was delivered on 1 July 1947 and served from 4 July 1947 on as a presidential aircraft till 1953 when Gen. Dwight Eisenhower became President of the USA. It seems that the rather special paint job was based on an idea by President Truman himself. 46-0505 served on as a general VIP transport till 1966 when it was donated to the Smithonian Institute for preservation. It is on loan to the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB. 'The Independence' could accommodate for 24 day or 12 sleeper passengers (in the main cabin). It had a luxurious State Room aft of the passenger door. Usually there was a crew of eight. It is featured here in its original tan, blue and metal livery. You will require Jens B. Kristensen's FS2004 or FSX Douglas DC-6 (DC6_V20.ZIP (http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=DC6_V20X.ZIP) or DC6_V20X.ZIP (http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=DC6_V20X.ZIP)). Repaint by Maarten Brouwer.

Here are some links to photos of the first Connie President Dwight D. Eisenhower used as his personal transport. In 1952, President Eisenhower was flying to Florida. The Presidential plane was named 'Columbine II' (after the official flower of Colorado, the First Lady's home state), but it was identified to flight controllers as "Air Force 610" (from its tail number 48-610). However, flying in the same general region was Eastern Airlines Flight 610. The Eastern Airlines pilot overheard a conversation between flight controllers and the President's plane, and for a moment thought the references to flight "610" were meant for him. Although nothing untoward happened, the government realized that the confusion could have been tragic. Since then, any Air Force aircraft with the President on board has been referred to as "Air Force One." Thus, the 'Columbine II' was the first aircraft to be distinguished with this designation, and she served President Eisenhower for several years in this role.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockheed-C-121A-Constellation/0696488/L/&sid=881c81a0aa765453635e00ef30692124
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockheed-VC-121A-Constellation/1483696/L/&sid=881c81a0aa765453635e00ef30692124
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockheed-VC-121A-Constellation/1268264/L/&sid=4463292cd8bed1337b0f60ec90b47897
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockheed-C-121A-Constellation/0222439/L/&sid=4463292cd8bed1337b0f60ec90b47897
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockheed-C-121A-Constellation/0009738/L/&sid=4463292cd8bed1337b0f60ec90b47897

Cheers,
Maarten

Z-AZ1USN
December 7th, 2009, 09:55
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http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=file&ImageID=247349 File Description:
Dimensionally identical to the first-generation Constellation (L-049), the post-war 749 had more powerful engines, additional fuel tanks, strengthened landing gear, and much improved performance. Equally good for shuttle hops and long-range flights, L-749 Connies entered service with major 1950s carriers such as Eastern, TWA, B.O.A.C., Air France, KLM, Quantas, and many others. Another customer was the Air Force, which placed an order for ten aircraft (designated C-121A) in 1948. Included in this sim package are seven models and five textures, covering variants with and without "Speedpak" cargo pannier, weather radar, and "jetstack" exhausts. KLM texture by Jaap de Baare (representing "Flevoland", the last 749 in flying condition today). TWA texture N6003C "Star of America" by Hans Herrmann. EAL, Air France, and MATS textures by Manfred Jahn (including "8609", a frequent visitor to airshows all over the world until 2005). Panel textures and additional gauges by Diego S. Barreto, model and VC by Manfred Jahn, panels, gauges, and animations by Hansjoerg Naegele, flight dynamics by Luis Pallas, wingview angles, lights, and exhaust effects by Bill Tyne and Roland Berger, checklist and documentation by Volker Boehme, flight test and handling research by Stefan Werner. The 749 project has been hosted by Tom Gibson's Calclassic forum at http://calclassic.proboards55.com.


Would love to see the Navy WV-1 paint of this added.
http://www.dconsultants.com/EC-121/VW1_Page_1.htm

tgibson
December 7th, 2009, 10:24
Hi,

When you open the real cowl flaps, there is an increase in drag. In most FS propliners, this is coded by deploying the spoilers - a little bit for a little open, a lot for full open. So the "speedbrake" deployment you are seeing is completely understandable. Avoid using the / key, since it will either set the spoiler as up (no drag), or fully deployed (only true for cowl flaps full open, which should only be on the ground).

So think of your light as a "cowl flap open" light. :)

Hope this helps,

Tom Clayton
December 7th, 2009, 10:53
Stefan, I guess I should have pulled up the Status Page first. It turns out that the props were going into reverse, but the lights just didn't indicate that. The pitch number went into the negative just like they should with the minimum throttle at 3%. With the minimum throttle reduced to 0.99%, the lights worked as if you'd clicked them with the mouse. Either way, prop reverse apears to work fine.:applause:

Sunny9850
December 7th, 2009, 17:16
Hi,

When you open the real cowl flaps, there is an increase in drag. In most FS propliners, this is coded by deploying the spoilers - a little bit for a little open, a lot for full open. So the "speedbrake" deployment you are seeing is completely understandable. Avoid using the / key, since it will either set the spoiler as up (no drag), or fully deployed (only true for cowl flaps full open, which should only be on the ground).

So think of your light as a "cowl flap open" light. :)

Hope this helps,

I would have to look again if we are using that drag still or not Tom, since the L-1649A had an emergency speed brake system with associated drag value the cowl flap drag I think was coded into the Starliner.gau which in modified form still does duty on the L-749.

But of course the cowl flaps do create drag when they are opened into the slip-stream. Which is modeled in the L-749.
The reason why I think there is more of an issue with this mini panel is that it seems to know only two positions....ON and OFF.

Again my suggestion is to either use the airplane unmodified....or try to reset the line in the cfg I pointed to and see if that helps.

Stefan

Sunny9850
December 7th, 2009, 17:22
Stefan, I guess I should have pulled up the Status Page first. It turns out that the props were going into reverse, but the lights just didn't indicate that. The pitch number went into the negative just like they should with the minimum throttle at 3%. With the minimum throttle reduced to 0.99%, the lights worked as if you'd clicked them with the mouse. Either way, prop reverse apears to work fine.:applause:


Hi Tom the lines on the status gauge for the props should actually change to REV (or REVS) when the reverse pitch is engaged. I have made a note however about the 0.03 vs 0.0099 and we'll see what we can make out of it.

With the original value the props should also go into reverse with a preset of I think 60% throttle when you left click the lights.

Stefan

aeronca1
December 7th, 2009, 18:48
Actually the first officialy dedicated aircraft for use by the President of the United States was a Douglas VC-118 (DC-6B). It was used by Pres. Harry S. Truman and was named Independence.

True, but if wikipedia is correct, it never used the call sign "Air Force One".

Does anyone know a reliable source for info on these A/C?

Thanks also for the above info regarding other avail a/c and liveries!!!!!

Tom Clayton
December 7th, 2009, 19:23
OK - hopefully this will come out "on paper" as clearly as I see it in my brain...:isadizzy:

In both cases, proper operation depends on the prop RPM being 800 or greater.

Minimum throttle @ 0.99%:
Pull the pitch all the way back and the prop numbers go to 0.
Hit my Ctrl+F2 button and the 0 goes to "REV" AND the Beta switches from +15 to -44.
Reverse lights on panel are on.
Reverse works.
(Below 800RPM, you can have "REV" displayed all day long and the beta will stay put @ +15 and you won't have reverse thrust.)


Minimum throttle @ 3.0%:
Pull the pitch all the way back and the prop numbers go to 0.
Hit my Ctrl+F2 button and the 0 stays as is (no "REV" displayed), but the Beta still switches from +15 to -44.
Reverse lights on panel are off.
Reverse still works.

(And I almost posted this with a rather "Freudian" typo on the word "pitch!" :monkies: )

Sunny9850
December 7th, 2009, 21:55
Thanks for that Tom,

I will bring this back to our next team meeting and we'll see which direction to go with it.
If you leave the 0.0099 setting then there may be a problem with certain hydraulic controls especially if you had less than 4 engines running because of how the hydraulic pumps are arranged in the airplane (true in real life as well but the sim makes it's own problems on top of the real ones).

But that to be honest we did not get to test all that much before the release....so don your orange jump-suit and pack a chute and give her a spin with this setting if you like :ernae:

Most likely there will be a few other things discovered now that there is a few hundred people testing and not just 5 or 6 in the team.
Like with the Starliner and SuperG there will probably be a update to correct these things at some point.

I'll get back to you after a bit more in-house testing. As long as all 4 engines are running the 0.0099 setting should work fine. If you loose more than 2 look for a very long runway and land with %60 flaps....and extra time to extend gear. But it still works just fine.

Stefan

PS. After the props go into REV you indeed have to bring the throttles back up slowly to get actual braking action....if you click the lights that happens automatically (your virtual co-pilot doing the work for you)

Tom Clayton
December 8th, 2009, 04:56
PS. After the props go into REV you indeed have to bring the throttles back up slowly to get actual braking action....if you click the lights that happens automatically (your virtual co-pilot doing the work for you)
Yep - that part I knew. That's what I love so much about the way your team has modelled these birds. Real thrust reverse on any plane isn't just a matter of pulling the throttles below the zero point. You have to bring the throttles to idle, reverse the pitch (or dump the buckets), then bring the throttle back up to produce the revered thrust. I've only seen one throttle system with a detent below zero, and that detent was labelled "Fuel Shutoff."

I guess that's something else that MS thought the general public was too dumb to comprehend.:isadizzy:

Maarten -
December 8th, 2009, 06:05
I've only seen one throttle system with a detent below zero, and that detent was labelled "Fuel Shutoff."


LOL!

Cheers,
Maarten

Sunny9850
December 8th, 2009, 07:33
Yep - that part I knew. That's what I love so much about the way your team has modelled these birds. Real thrust reverse on any plane isn't just a matter of pulling the throttles below the zero point. You have to bring the throttles to idle, reverse the pitch (or dump the buckets), then bring the throttle back up to produce the revered thrust. I've only seen one throttle system with a detent below zero, and that detent was labelled "Fuel Shutoff."

I guess that's something else that MS thought the general public was too dumb to comprehend.:isadizzy:

Hi Tom,

I figured you know, but maybe someone else reading through this might get a little bonus info :D

Stefan

Wild Bill Kelso
December 8th, 2009, 08:10
The paintkit is out!

FS2004 (ACOF) - FS2004 Propliners FS2004 Lockheed L-749 Constellation Paint Kit
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http://flightsim.com/o/l749_paintkit.gif FS2004 Lockheed L-749 Constellation Paint Kit. This paintkit contains Photoshop (psd) master templates for creating L-749 liveries suitable for the L749 by Manfred Jahn and Team 749 (LOCKHEED749.ZIP (http://flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=LOCKHEED749.ZIP)).

Sunny9850
December 8th, 2009, 14:00
So Markus....what scheme can we look forward to ????

Stefan

Sunny9850
December 8th, 2009, 17:24
Hi,

When you open the real cowl flaps, there is an increase in drag. In most FS propliners, this is coded by deploying the spoilers - a little bit for a little open, a lot for full open. So the "speedbrake" deployment you are seeing is completely understandable. Avoid using the / key, since it will either set the spoiler as up (no drag), or fully deployed (only true for cowl flaps full open, which should only be on the ground).

So think of your light as a "cowl flap open" light. :)

Hope this helps,

Ok tested a bit more on the problem caused by the Mini-panel and Tom (as usual is right) the drag associated with cowl flaps is indeed still derived from the spoiler variable.

That means: If you use the workaround I had suggested you will also loose a bit of realism because the drag is simply gone.
On the positive side there is no more drag so you win a Trans-Con race against a Douglas DC-6 even easier than before :)

That is about all I can offer on that one at this point. The original configuration does work, but through this little deal we have discovered that pressing the spoiler key still activates half of the Starliners Emergency Air Brake System. The main gear doors open and you will have a lot of drag.
That we will fix.

Stefan

Stefan

hawkeye52
December 8th, 2009, 18:02
I received the following comment from a Connie captain after he viewed the C-121A video (elsewhere on this thread):

"The simulator video is well done, but if you remember, during the final approach with full flaps, the nose (pitch-down attitude) was more pronounced, requiring a greater "round out" (before touch-down.)

... tell your buddy it is nicely done and thanks again..."


To which I replied:

"Yes, I do remember a very pronounced nose-down attitude on Final. Perhaps the flight-dynamics gurus can incorporate that into an FDE revision."

How about it? Any takers?

- H52

Flyboy208
December 8th, 2009, 18:40
I received the following comment from a Connie captain after he viewed the C-121A video (elsewhere on this thread):

"The simulator video is well done, but if you remember, during the final approach with full flaps, the nose (pitch-down attitude) was more pronounced, requiring a greater "round out" (before touch-down.)

... tell your buddy it is nicely done and thanks again..."


To which I replied:

"Yes, I do remember a very pronounced nose-down attitude on Final. Perhaps the flight-dynamics gurus can incorporate that into an FDE revision."

How about it? Any takers?

- H52

I think the landing was very well done, this is, after all, a flight simulation.

Mike :running:

Z-claudius24
December 8th, 2009, 19:12
Hi,

I make the video .. so I was flying the crate .. lol.
If you check very well ... I roundup too early (in fact it was the first time I landed this plane) and the plane was beginning to climb again :) (I see that on the vario) .. so I released a little (maybe too much) the stick .. and the nose go down
That's how I feel this landing.

Volker Böhme
December 8th, 2009, 21:46
I received the following comment from a Connie captain after he viewed the C-121A video (elsewhere on this thread):

"The simulator video is well done, but if you remember, during the final approach with full flaps, the nose (pitch-down attitude) was more pronounced, requiring a greater "round out" (before touch-down.)

... tell your buddy it is nicely done and thanks again..."


To which I replied:

"Yes, I do remember a very pronounced nose-down attitude on Final. Perhaps the flight-dynamics gurus can incorporate that into an FDE revision."

How about it? Any takers?

- H52

Hi,

there are a lot of factors affecting approach attitude. Hard to tell if we don't know weight and speed of both aircraft compared. On top of that, the manual for the military C-121A suggests a very steep, 1000 fpm approach while our checklist takes it a bit slower. Headwind will also make a difference.

On the spectator's side, it can look quite different depending on perspective.

And finally, some effects, like additional lift from propwash over the wing, are not modelled in FS (or if it is, please let us know). So we have to add pitch to make up for that loss.

Best regards,
Volker

Sunny9850
December 8th, 2009, 22:11
As mentioned before the pitch depends on way too many factors you do not have any info on based on one (1) video.

By the way especially considered this was your first landing with her ... noting wrong at all :ernae:

Flown by the numbers and on the numbers she is if not on the dot but on the half....and that's good enough for the women I date :icon_lol::icon_lol:

Stefan

Wild Bill Kelso
December 8th, 2009, 23:50
Grüß Dich, Stefan!


So Markus....what scheme can we look forward to ????

Well - I know there are soooo many repainters waiting to set their brushes on this beauty, so I'll wait a little. First, I have to finish my part of Pete's and Sid's Yellowknife project.
I do love the several MATS versions, maybe one of them having been at Berlin-Tempelhof will be the one...

Cheers,
Markus.

mjahn
December 9th, 2009, 05:14
Great video, Claudius.

What's that lovely tire squeak you are using? Is it public domain and can you point us to it?

Best,
Manfred

thunder100
December 9th, 2009, 06:30
As mentioned before the pitch depends on way too many factors you do not have any info on based on one (1) video.

By the way especially considered this was your first landing with her ... noting wrong at all :ernae:

Flown by the numbers and on the numbers she is if not on the dot but on the half....and that's good enough for the women I date :icon_lol::icon_lol:

Stefan

Most of our teammembers have commented-->just one part missing

Yes we look into this pitch thing as well.

But although some of us are real pilots non of us ever flew a Connie.We have, after an endless search ,4 real pilots as advisors,which provided us (and still are) valuable input,but(bigger but) none of them is in the FS world.On annother project we tried to let some fly in the FS world but at 80 + age(Young though) the computer excitement took over from their real feelings(and what do you want to feel if nothing moves??)

So we try to find out what is real and then eventually update

Roland

Also teammember

Sunny9850
December 9th, 2009, 08:01
Grüß Dich, Stefan!



Well - I know there are soooo many repainters waiting to set their brushes on this beauty, so I'll wait a little. First, I have to finish my part of Pete's and Sid's Yellowknife project.
I do love the several MATS versions, maybe one of them having been at Berlin-Tempelhof will be the one...

Cheers,
Markus.

Well what ever it is going to be I know it's going to be good....and in my hangar. Btw did you ever finish the FW-200 repaint ??

Stefan

Z-claudius24
December 9th, 2009, 08:09
Hi,

mjhan please check your PM box.

Wild Bill Kelso
December 9th, 2009, 11:00
Thank you, Stefan! :ernae:

No, the fictional Lufthansa Condor still waits for its "time warp".
But I'll let you know...

Blackbird686
December 10th, 2009, 16:28
After spending several hours in the 749, I must say that I like this bird the best. It took me a while but I finally figured out how to manage the model in flight without having the engines fail. :isadizzy:

BB686 (insert American Flag here...)

Sunny9850
December 10th, 2009, 20:06
Glad you like her,

Works just like the others....Max Power is allowed for no more than 2 minutes, then a power and rpm reduction must be made. If you want to get a little extra help right click on the Check-List icon opens the "Virtual FE - Status Window" If you see yellow you are pushing hard and the timer is ticking slowly...if you see red you should immediately reduce MAP and RPM....or pick a suitable landing spot for your tripple tail glider.

More detailed information is of course in the Manual we included in the package :mixedsmi:

:ernae:
Stefan

Sunny9850
December 10th, 2009, 20:07
Thank you, Stefan! :ernae:

No, the fictional Lufthansa Condor still waits for its "time warp".
But I'll let you know...

Thanks Markus....my Condor is primered and ready for paint

Stefan

Tim-HH
December 12th, 2009, 15:10
I have uploaded a new livery for the marvelous L-749 to Avsim ('http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=l749a_boac.zip&CatID=root&Go=Search') :)

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q108/Tim-HH/L-749_BOAC5.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q108/Tim-HH/L-749_BOAC.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q108/Tim-HH/L-749_BOAC7.jpg

Hope you like it!

Greetings
Tim

Sunny9850
December 12th, 2009, 16:42
Sweet....looks elegant.

Stefan

bpfowler
December 12th, 2009, 19:48
very nice, just dl'd it!

all this boac reminds me of wayne tudor, who painted the fsdz connie so well. anyone know what he is up to?

FlyTexas
December 13th, 2009, 15:11
'Star of America' ready for departure. Man I love this aircraft. :wiggle:

Brian

tgibson
December 14th, 2009, 13:58
Hi,

The squeaking brakes are available separately in Diego's sound package:

http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=brakes+diego&CatID=root&Go=Search

Hope this helps,

Javis
December 16th, 2009, 23:05
Just for my own pleasure i thought i'd have a go at lively up the VC of Manfred's excellent 749 a bit. In my personal Connie book this venerable old Lady needs to be flown stricly from the VC and i thought the VC textures could do with a little enhancement here and there. Turned out quite a significant project though so i thought if there's enough interest i might try and contact Manfred for permission to upload this 'VC Repaint Kit'.

Here's a shot of what my KLM FLE office looks like now :

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/749vc1.jpg



It's all layered psd files so at one click on my colorize button i can change the color of just the panel. My old freighter needed a new Captain's panel, no time for painting, will probabely be just the primer for a long time to come :

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/749vc2.jpg


With a bit more effort it's also possible to repaint the whole cockpit. Here's my N494TW MATS office, just like the real thing, éh ? :costum:

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/749vc3.jpg

Personally i think it's nice to have a different cockpit appearance with every different Connie. Possible too with Manfred's Connies because there's no common texture folder for the VC textures. They work in FSX as well, in fact the screenies were taken in FSX.

If you like this 'VC Repaint Kit' for your own Connie cockpits we'll see what Manfred thinks about uploading here.

Cheers,
Jan, Connie aficionado pur sang :salute:

mjahn
December 16th, 2009, 23:35
My, that looks splendid Jan, go right ahead. And don't forget to drop a note over at Calclassic.

http://calclassic.proboards55.com/index.cgi?board=general

Best regards and thanks very much,
Manfred

Javis
December 17th, 2009, 00:09
My, that looks splendid Jan, go right ahead. And don't forget to drop a note over at Calclassic.

I just did. :)

Wow, that was quick,Manfred ! Great to know you like what you see and thanks very much for your permission to upload !

Congratulations with your ongoing, superb Connie line-up ! :applause::ernae::applause:

Tschüss!

Jan

Tim-HH
December 17th, 2009, 03:11
Wow Jan! That looks absolutely superb :applause:

I am looking forward to it :jump:

Greetings
Tim

Wild Bill Kelso
December 17th, 2009, 05:28
Hard to believe that a jewel like this still can undergo some improvements...

Excellent work, Jan! :applause:
Hartelijk bedankt!

Cheers,
Markus.

aeronca1
December 17th, 2009, 08:39
Wowsers! Awesome work!

PeteHam
December 17th, 2009, 09:38
Brilliant work Jan :applause: :applause:

I love the lighter grey version :jump:

:ernae:

Pete.

tgibson
December 17th, 2009, 10:46
Hi,

AFAIK Wayne Tudor has stopped painting for FS (about 2 years ago). I have talked with him via email since then, but he doesn't frequent FS sites much anymore.

Hope this helps,

Javis
December 17th, 2009, 18:14
Thanks, guys ! :salute:

As Manfred gave his permission i'll clean up the psd's ( about 35 layers each as it is now.. :) ) and package them up. Will upload here during the weekend hopefully.

Cheers,
Jan

bpfowler
December 17th, 2009, 18:53
this is a treat....applause from the balcony!

aeronca1
December 18th, 2009, 07:07
Thanks, guys ! :salute:

As Manfred gave his permission i'll clean up the psd's ( about 35 layers each as it is now.. :) ) and package them up. Will upload here during the weekend hopefully.

Cheers,
Jan

THANK YOU for my first Christmas present this year!

the king
December 18th, 2009, 09:59
Simply GREAT

THANKS a lot

just a little question is it possible to to have a point of you a little forward in order to see outside when we turn the head to the left or to the right at 90° (modification in panel.cfg or aircraft.cfg?);I use FSXand i see the cockpit inside when I have a look at 90°

Merci par avance

Volker Böhme
December 18th, 2009, 10:45
Hi,

we had lengthy discussions about the 'perfect' VC eyepoint and that's where we eventually decided it to be. Or points were a reasonable compromise between ability to see the outside for landing pattern (the more forward, the better) and the ability to see a reasonable amount of panel (the more back, the better). from the current position, you can still see at least one rpm gauge without having to change viewduring approach.

But feel free to experiment - the eyepoint setting is in the aircraft.cfg, I think.

Best regards,
Volker

Cazzie
December 18th, 2009, 11:09
Wow Jan. :medals:

Can't wait! :jump:

Sure would not mind a Paint Kit, I am peculiarly found of those. :engel016:

Caz

Sunny9850
December 18th, 2009, 19:04
Hi,

we had lengthy discussions about the 'perfect' VC eyepoint and that's where we eventually decided it to be. Or points were a reasonable compromise between ability to see the outside for landing pattern (the more forward, the better) and the ability to see a reasonable amount of panel (the more back, the better). from the current position, you can still see at least one rpm gauge without having to change viewduring approach.

But feel free to experiment - the eyepoint setting is in the aircraft.cfg, I think.

Best regards,
Volker

The thing with eye point settings like Volker pointed out is that in FS it is indeed a compromise. Especially when mixing FS9 and FSX since the two simulators draw the world slightly different on the big canvas outside of your cockpit windows.
It also doesn't treat the old 2D panel which some people still prefer the same as the VC cockpit.

All that means you have to compromise to some extent during the development....and about 50 or so team internal e-mails later this is where we ended up.

FS actually looks at two different places for this one is in the aircraft.cfg which basically defines where the eyepoint is in relation to the center point of
the 3D model in X Y and Z
But there is also the panel.cfg in which FS defines what you see from this point on both the VC panel and the VC.
To make it even more fun FS also treats views accessed via keyboard short cuts separately from the view which you can move around with your hat switch.

So before you do anything make a backup copy of the original aircraft.cfg files and the panel.cfg file.

Stefan

bpfowler
December 18th, 2009, 19:45
Wow Jan. :medals:

Can't wait! :jump:

Sure would not mind a Paint Kit, I am peculiarly found of those. :engel016:

Caz

there is an l-749 paintkit -- if that's what youre looking for--hyar:
http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=141494

cheerio ,
brady

Cazzie
December 19th, 2009, 01:38
Misunderstanding, I have the L749 Paint Kit, I was speaking of Jan's VC Paint Kit, that is layer so one can use different colors for the cockpit. :applause:

Keep us posted Jan.

Caz

Moses03
December 21st, 2009, 11:36
Dennis Kim has painted up the L749 in AOA colors. A real beauty!

"aoal049.zip" over at AVSIM.

Wild Bill Kelso
December 30th, 2009, 07:48
An annex for Tim's marvellous BOAC livery:

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/wildbillkelso_berlin/749boac.jpg

It's Berlin-Tempelhof, 1957.
Note how 'huge' this ship was, despite its grace!

Cheers,
Markus.

Moses03
January 1st, 2010, 13:07
FYI- Manfred has uploaded the update for the L-749 over at AVSIM.

Moses


New! Lockheed L-749 Constellation, Models Update http://library.avsim.net/images/ZipDive.png (http://library.avsim.net/zipdiver.php?DLID=142343) http://library.avsim.net/images/Download.png (http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=142343)


Other files which are related to, or may be required by, this file:

Lockheed L-749 Constellation Base Pack (Download #141034) (http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=141034)
Enhanced VC textures and 'VC Repaint Kit' for Lockheed L-749 Constellation (Download #141814) (http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=141814)
Lockheed L-749 Constellation Paintkit (Download #141079) (http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=141079)
Three military Lockheed L-749 / C-121A Constellations (Download #141089) (http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=141089)
Lockheed L-749 Constellation, Models Update (Download #142343) (http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=142343)

File Description:
This archive contains the following modifications to the L-749 Constellation base pack models by Manfred Jahn:
(1) Separately mapped right hand surfaces of center fins;
(2) Engine texture maps for Jetstack models;
(3) Moving VCrain effects;
(4) Parts texture layout for repainters.


Filename:749_models_update.zipLicense:FreewareAdde d:1st January 2010Downloads:140Author:Manfred JahnSize:9465kb

Jagdflieger
January 2nd, 2010, 07:46
Moses,

Thanks for the heads up in the update. Just got it.