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Netbuster
September 29th, 2008, 04:05
Hi all,
i'm in love with this old Falcon 50 by Fred Banting & Co. Did you know if
there is a fs2004 updated version. In virtual cockpit landing gear is hided
and seem to float over the runway.

Thanx

pfflyers
September 29th, 2008, 05:28
To answer the first part of your question: as far as I know there is no update.

Personally, I find the original version works quite well.

I'm not sure I understand the second part of your question, in my sim the wheels appear to be on the ground.

expat
September 29th, 2008, 06:40
I like and fly this aircraft a lot in FS9 and have just finished my own glass cockpit and other mods for her. Flight model is one of the best. There was definately a FS2004 update done. Works well in FS9. Think the link is to a French sim site. Will look around and try to post a link.

Alain_F355
September 29th, 2008, 08:41
You can find the link on www.flusi.info (http://www.flusi.info) under Geschäftsreiseflugzeuge (http://www.flusi.info/hangar/index_GA-2mot.html)

expat
September 29th, 2008, 09:46
Thanks - yes that site has the most up to date FS9 mods.

deathfromafar
September 29th, 2008, 13:41
I think the base pack link in that page is dead. the second link is fine.

Netbuster
September 30th, 2008, 08:05
Yes the first link is dead. Now i will try the second one. THANX!

Netbuster
September 30th, 2008, 08:11
To answer the first part of your question: as far as I know there is no update.

Personally, I find the original version works quite well.

I'm not sure I understand the second part of your question, in my sim the wheels appear to be on the ground.

In my original version when i set in FULL i see the plane suspended over the runway without landing gears.

I hope in this new 2004 version done any official update was released from authors.

Netbuster
September 30th, 2008, 08:35
You can find the link on www.flusi.info (http://www.flusi.info) underGeschäftsreiseflugzeuge (http://www.flusi.info/hangar/index_GA-2mot.html)

Yeah!!! Thanx Alain_F335 and all for the great support on finding a
Falcon 50 for FS2004 ... it WORKS!!!

Ciao

Lionheart
September 30th, 2008, 10:18
I love that thing. I logged a ton of hours in that back in the days of FS2002. The high rez paint scheme was hard on the computer, but it was simply the best!!! And what a cool interior! Little office room in the back, elegant wood, awesome VC, that cool clickable Annunciator panel, photo real textures....

Years ahead of its time in the Sim world.

I think the development team on it was led by Yannick Lavinne. Not sure. Wish he and they would do some more...


There is a brilliant documentary out on the creation of the Falcon Jets, well, the F-50 in particular. It was first developed for the French military. It had to be able to land on dirt strips. The wing design turned out to be way off, and on their last day of trials, during the night, all night, they refitted the wings top surfaces with foam and wood bits, covered it over, and created a different wing profile that they calculated they actually needed. The next day, it flew superb and they got the contract, and thus the F-50 was born.


Bill

deathfromafar
September 30th, 2008, 10:57
I took the old one and used the update an yes it works perfectly. Still an excellent model.

pfflyers
September 30th, 2008, 12:21
I must have had the update without remembering that I did. When I looked in the cfg file it is still identified as a 2002 model. Maybe that part of the cfg wasn't changed.

falcon409
September 30th, 2008, 21:11
Thanks for the HU. . .a beautiful airplane inside and out. I changed the soundfile, as anything would sound better than the Lear, lol. Is there any way to show a pilot (keystroke/hotkey, etc) or was this done without a pilot?

Either way a great airplane.:ernae:

simkid22
September 30th, 2008, 21:41
I think the pilot shows up when you turn on the lights.

Lionheart
October 1st, 2008, 00:50
I think the pilot shows up when you turn on the lights.

The classic ole Bill Lyons effects trick. :d

expat
October 1st, 2008, 02:05
When I looked in the cfg file it is still identified as a 2002 model. Maybe that part of the cfg wasn't changed.

I recall reading that the air.cfg continues to read 2002 even with the 2004 update.

Very glad to see others discovering or rediscovering this special FS a/c. This is such a great flyer and there are really too few good freeware business jets around. I have modded mine with different sound, smoke and into a longer range Falcon 50EX with a Rockell Collins Pro line type panel layout with color weather radar etc (using freeware gauges). I use it for transatlantic "commuting" - often over night - and it can get in and out of a lot of different, smaller airports.

Shame Gulfstream (and Lockheed I hear) are such a pain about licensing - I would spring for a high end payware eg G4 or 5 and Jetstar. FDS has been promising a Jetstar II forever but not sure its ever going to be released.


http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3255/dassault20falcon2050exbo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/dassault20falcon2050exbo5.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img114/dassault20falcon2050exbo5.jpg/1/)

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4226/f50egcynightir1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/f50egcynightir1.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img367/f50egcynightir1.jpg/1/)

http://img114.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Netbuster
October 1st, 2008, 04:52
I recall reading that the air.cfg continues to read 2002 even with the 2004 update.

Very glad to see others discovering or rediscovering this special FS a/c. This is such a great flyer and there are really too few good freeware business jets around. I have modded mine with different sound, smoke and into a longer range Falcon 50EX with a Rockell Collins Pro line type panel layout with color weather radar etc (using freeware gauges). I use it for transatlantic "commuting" - often over night - and it can get in and out of a lot of different, smaller airports.

Shame Gulfstream (and Lockheed I hear) are such a pain about licensing - I would spring for a high end payware eg G4 or 5 and Jetstar. FDS has been promising a Jetstar II forever but not sure its ever going to be released.


http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3255/dassault20falcon2050exbo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/dassault20falcon2050exbo5.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img114/dassault20falcon2050exbo5.jpg/1/)

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4226/f50egcynightir1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/f50egcynightir1.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img367/f50egcynightir1.jpg/1/)

http://img114.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Anyway the new FS2004 update has dinamics completely changed and modified and i dont like it. I've tried to adopt mines from FS2002 version but when i level the plane tend to turn right or sometimes to the left.

The model has been completely rebuilt and aircraft.cfg too. Hmmm i love
the new FS2004 update but mine (no virtual cockpit) completely modded
(aircgraft.cfg, smoke, sounds etc.) seem to me better :redf:

Ciao

vonstroheim
November 5th, 2010, 06:25
Don't miss to follow up to this thread here:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=417

Brian_Gladden
November 6th, 2010, 04:54
If anyone needs the FS 2004 version of the Falcon 50 (and can't get it anywhere else) I Have the Zip file squirreled away on my hard drive. I just reinstalled it this morning and I think I'm going to take her for a spin. by the way, all the original pant jobs available work on the 2004 model.

Z-claudius24
November 6th, 2010, 09:05
Hi,

That's a nice model ... a classic and I like it :)

http://simtube.com/video/3674/SAAF-Falcon-50

Astoroth
November 6th, 2010, 11:36
If anyone needs the FS 2004 version of the Falcon 50 (and can't get it anywhere else) I Have the Zip file squirreled away on my hard drive. I just reinstalled it this morning and I think I'm going to take her for a spin. by the way, all the original pant jobs available work on the 2004 model.

I'd take you up on that Brian, I have misplaced my download of it somewhere....thanks!

Brian_Gladden
November 6th, 2010, 12:10
Anyone who needs it, shoot me a PM with your e-mail adress

Sunny9850
November 13th, 2010, 16:27
The thread and pictures as so often happens inspired me to look around for my own copy of the F50. Especially since I just parked next to one last week at Bermuda Dunes Ap and talked to the crew for a bit.

I found all the required files for the airplane here after I was unable to locate them on my storage drives.

http://www.virtualairforce.ch/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=67:swiss-virtual-airforce--falcon%2050&catid=42:swiss-virtual-airforce--aicrafts&Itemid=59

Cheers
Stefan

fxsttcb
December 26th, 2010, 13:31
Eric Dantès has succumbed to Ludovic Von Stroheim's pleading for a re-release of the real FS9 version. It is hosted by Aquitaine Simulation, a French Association, near the real Dassault factory. Both the FS9 plane and coincidently, the official release of our FSX panel are available on one site: http://aquitaine.simulation.free.fr (http://aquitaine.simulation.free.fr)

On the left side menu of the Aquitaine Simulation website:
"Aide & Téléchargements"
Click Téléchargements, the panel download window appears
Click Avions FS2004 for the original Eric Dantès Falcon 50 installer

Happy Holidays...Don

This is Eric Dantès updated original Designed by Yannick Lavigne, Gauges by Fred Banting, and Aerodynamics by Rob Young

mgr
December 27th, 2010, 00:49
Eric Dantès has succumbed to Ludovic Von Stroheim's pleading for a re-release of the real FS9 version. It is hosted by Aquitaine Simulation, a French Association, near the real Dassault factory. Both the FS9 plane and coincidently, the official release of our FSX panel are available on one site: http://aquitaine.simulation.free.fr (http://aquitaine.simulation.free.fr)

On the left side menu of the Aquitaine Simulation website:
"Aide & Téléchargements"
Click Téléchargements, the panel download window appears
Click Avions FS2004 for the original Eric Dantès Falcon 50 installer

Happy Holidays...Don

This is Eric Dantès updated original Designed by Yannick Lavigne, Gauges by Fred Banting, and Aerodynamics by Rob Young

Site is a bit strange with links, so direct link to the download:
http://cid-7fe0d30f80350502.office.live.com/browse.aspx/T%C3%A9l%C3%A9chargements%20Avions (http://cid-7fe0d30f80350502.office.live.com/self.aspx/T%c3%a9l%c3%a9chargements%20Avions/install%5E_falcon50.exe)

Select -> "Install_falcon50" and select download.