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krazycolin
November 17th, 2009, 05:18
Here's the Harrier AV-8BII fuselage progress! Nice work if I may say so!

kc.






P.S.: This IS a joke...

JamesChams
November 17th, 2009, 05:21
:applause:Very Nice, indeed! It looks so good that I'm wondering it it might be edible, too.

Keep up the good work! :icon29:

PS: Look at this FREEWARE's VC System; it'll give you an idea of what I'm looking for from MilViz's payware
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdXrgUWi8uA&NR=1

Thanks!

MudMarine
November 17th, 2009, 05:52
Paint it dark brown so it looks like a chocolate easter bunny.......harrier!:isadizzy::icon_lol:

krazycolin
November 17th, 2009, 06:13
Actually, when I saw this, my first reaction was.... : "I'm melting, ahhhh, I'm melting... ahhh... melting.... "

Needless to say, that person no longer works here.

kc

JamesChams
November 17th, 2009, 06:23
...Needless to say, that person no longer works here.Why? Was he all about the "Baking" and not about the "Icing"? Or, is it, all about being the "baker" and not the "Dishwasher"? :icon_lol:

Either way, it still looks edible to me....:birthday2

:isadizzy:

lukecrowley571
November 17th, 2009, 06:52
That looks like an extra from that Trebor Softmints ad from the '90's, starring Mr. Soft. If they made Harrier-shaped Softmints, I'd eat 'em. :applause:

Boomer
November 17th, 2009, 07:16
Needless to say, that person no longer works here.

kc

Let me get this straight, this was actually presented to you as a WIP?? :isadizzy:

krazycolin
November 17th, 2009, 08:49
Believe it or not, the answer is yes. Fortunately, not for this project.

So, I think we can all take a deep breath and relax!

kc

Gibbage
November 17th, 2009, 10:26
Yes, the wonders of mesh smooth. A great way to tell the nubs from the pro's.

Kavehpd
November 17th, 2009, 10:57
That's a lot of Botox!

N2056
November 17th, 2009, 11:00
It's an Inflate-a-Harrier!
Takes up less space when not in use :d

kilo delta
November 17th, 2009, 12:03
Wow.....a Harrier on steroids! :icon_lol:

Gibbage
November 17th, 2009, 13:11
Though I gotta say, im sure this harrier would fly. At the Macy's parade.

AckAck
November 17th, 2009, 13:19
What? - it looks like a Matchbox kit, before the 1.5" panel line gaps have been added.

Brian

jagl04
November 17th, 2009, 13:37
This is a Harrier¡

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhovd3JnIZI

djscoo
November 17th, 2009, 14:02
Better than I'd ever be able to do!

krazycolin
November 18th, 2009, 04:14
We're looking for pics of the gear bays if anyone has any.... can't find any on the net...

thanks

kc

Matt Wynn
November 18th, 2009, 06:35
y'mean like these:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk054c_AV-8B_Randy-Smith/09.jpg
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk054c_AV-8B_Randy-Smith/04.jpg
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk054c_AV-8B_Randy-Smith/10.jpg
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk054b_AV-8B_Randy-Smith/16.jpg
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk054b_AV-8B_Randy-Smith/43.jpg

and that was after a 5 minute quick search...

cheezyflier
November 18th, 2009, 06:39
This is a Harrier

in slew mode:icon_lol:

Gibbage
November 18th, 2009, 10:46
Ack. That gear bay does NOT look like fun.....

MCDesigns
November 18th, 2009, 11:01
Ack. That gear bay does NOT look like fun.....

Textures baby! LOL, there is absolutely no need to model all the parts inside that bay (assuming you know this already)

krazycolin
November 18th, 2009, 11:21
thanks for those pics. Nice ones. We will NOT be modeling everything in that bay. But some of the stuff maybe... we'll see..

thanks again.

kc

Matt Wynn
November 18th, 2009, 11:37
not a problem even as textures i think would be fine...

Gibbage
November 18th, 2009, 14:59
Its a fine line we walk between what we WANT to do, and what we CAN do. The P-38 had a birds nest of hydrolic lines in the back of the front well. Lets just say I had a really good photo I took that came in handy. Its good to know such small shortcuts are... acceptable, to a degree. There are just some details I never want to cut out, but in the wheen well I will. Only because 99% of the time its closed, and when its open, your more concerned with taking off or landing then looking up the skirt to see whats under. :ernae:

MCDesigns
November 18th, 2009, 15:42
Very true Kevin. When I started modeling it was for FS and was taught early on to use textures for detail to help on performance. Then I got into CGI modeling where everything is modeled since you use render farms and detail/performance isn't a concern. Then onto different game engines were you have to pick and choose depending on the engine.

That is actually one of the reasons I love modeling for FSX, I can add a little more detail/more parts to a scenery object without the hit I would get with the same detail in FS9.

Looking forward to the harrier, it's my fav military jet!

trevytt2004
November 19th, 2009, 03:34
The harrier in the youtube video, is it released, who developed it?
Looked at the site BVR but its in spanish or portugese.
Looked very nice

jagl04
November 19th, 2009, 09:16
The Harrier in the video is under development by a BVR team, the leader designer is DAGA, and the model is near to be finished.

Fying AV8B+, with red and yellow colors and with the word Armada, it is Spanish, of course.

krazycolin
November 19th, 2009, 10:09
I would very much like to see some shots of the VC if there are any...

thanks,

kc

trevytt2004
November 19th, 2009, 10:22
is there a site to go to for more dev. shots of the BVR AV8? who are the modellers?

kilo delta
November 19th, 2009, 10:49
is there a site to go to for more dev. shots of the BVR AV8? who are the modellers?

http://www.bvr.es/ hope you understand Spanish? :)

krazycolin
November 19th, 2009, 10:58
I'm not entirely sure, but, I think that it's for FS9. I MIGHT very well be wrong but the video is "coming" from a topic that has FS2004 in it... soooooo....

kc

krazycolin
November 19th, 2009, 11:04
Yup... it's for FSX. Well... that puts me into a weird position...

What to do?

kc

kilo delta
November 19th, 2009, 12:41
Plenty of room for another Harrier, KC....especially if you ever decide in the future to put your creative talents to the test and come up with a Sea Harrier.:bump:

krazycolin
November 19th, 2009, 12:43
Well, I'm thinking that with a Gr.7/9 and an Av-8BII AND an Av-8BII+, that ought to be enough...

kc.

kilo delta
November 19th, 2009, 12:47
The poor old SHAR.....always the bridesmaid!!:kilroy:

:icon_lol:

SkippyBing
November 19th, 2009, 13:18
The poor old SHAR.....always the bridesmaid!!

Yeah, but she's faster...

rcbarend
November 19th, 2009, 14:24
http://www.bvr.es/ hope you understand Spanish? :)
The exterior model looks quite stunning.
Unfortunately the video doesn't show a vertical takeoff/landing, which is my main point-of-interrest for obvious reasons :)

But the video *does* show that flaps and nozzles aren't independantly controlled, as far as I can tell .
The designer that models this (IMHO ... essential and unique) feature the right way really has a winner .....
(kc: *hint*)

Rob

Tweek
November 19th, 2009, 14:30
That also looks to be the Spanish version only (I could be mistaken, although I see no signs of an American AV-8B or a GR.7/9), and I'm sure the majority of the potential market will be wanting an American or British version. Don't get me wrong, I'll be snapping that Spaniard up as soon as it's available, but I still reckon it's worth continuing with the AV-8B and GR.9.

trevytt2004
November 19th, 2009, 14:38
That also looks to be the Spanish version only (I could be mistaken, although I see no signs of an American AV-8B or a GR.7/9), and I'm sure the majority of the potential market will be wanting an American or British version. Don't get me wrong, I'll be snapping that Spaniard up as soon as it's available, but I still reckon it's worth continuing with the AV-8B and GR.9.

Very true....the spaniard will be awsome....but i feel if the obvious is left out.....boy will peeps complain. Any news of expected eta's for either of these projects

jagl04
November 21st, 2009, 08:44
The only Spanish-only version of the Harrier was the older AV8S Matador, now in service in Thai navy. Nowadays the Spanish harrier is the same AV8B+ the US Marines and the Italian Navy fly, since the AV8B+ update was a common project. The only problem should be adding textures. The GR7 is really another model.

Anyway, the designs of the BVR are not commercial ones, up to date all of them are freeware. If this one becomes finally a pay model will be just to cover the costs.

Here are other samples of our work


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHYeVYN86pM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmTujDQGE08

Tweek
November 21st, 2009, 08:53
The only Spanish-only version of the Harrier was the older AV8S Matador, now in service in Thai navy. Nowadays the Spanish harrier is the same AV8B+ the US Marines and the Italian Navy fly, since the AV8B+ update was a common project. The only problem should be adding textures. The GR7 is really another model.

Of course, my mistake.

jagl04
November 21st, 2009, 09:32
Not a mistake, just some details for a great plane.

And I agree with you, any Harrier model including the British GR9 will have more success. In fact, we are flying the Iris GR9 by the moment, with Spanish textures, since it is the best model we know.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5899/despegando3pn3.jpg