Work in progress? [Archive]

huub vink

October 15th, 2009, 11:42

Believe it or not, but I know somebody who thinks you can still improve this! Therefore it is called "work in progress".

Huub

(Yes I know I'm privileged :d)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/VC_A5_1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/VC_A5_2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/VC_A5_3.jpg

Barvan40

October 15th, 2009, 11:46

Incredible detail Huub, Mathias is a perfectionist, looking forward to flying from this cockpit!
:applause::ernae::applause:

gajit

October 15th, 2009, 11:49

Oh wow :jump:

RudiJG1

October 15th, 2009, 11:51

Incredible detail Huub, Mathias is a perfectionist, looking forward to flying from this cockpit!
:applause::ernae::applause:

Me, too, brother...:jawdrop:

jankees

October 15th, 2009, 11:56

I agree with Mathias, it looks terrible.
I'm surprised, Huub, that you dare to show us images of such a messy, unfinished product. Brrrrrrr.

No, Mathias, please continue your work, and try not to listen to Huub too much, who thinks that this is already perfect...

:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

Bomber_12th

October 15th, 2009, 12:10

Here's some more admiration from a greatly impressed member of this site!
Quite amazing to think of all of the time and energy that has gone into getting these cockpits this far, and as close to perfection as likely there is to be - I still remember the very first renderings, posted to the FS2004 forum, and that was even before FSX ever was a thought.

huub vink

October 15th, 2009, 13:05

...... Mathias is a perfectionist.......

No doubt about that, he really is. I know it is not nice to talk about friends behind their back, but his drive to make these models absolutely perfect and as historically correct as possible is sometimes worrying me :d.

For those who love history and German aircrafts this will be a very interesting package. Every model has its unique cockpit and all in the same extremely detailed style. You can really follow the development of the war in these cockpits. Due to the lack of sufficient supplies and less skilled manpower the cockpits had to become more simple, however had to remain as functional as well. In these cockpit you can really follow this evolution.

Of course I'm biased and perhaps a bit over enthousiastic, but I really think the guys of Classics Hangar (not just Mathias) did re-create a part of history here.

Cheers,
Huub

Nick C

October 15th, 2009, 13:05

Geez, talk about stealing my thunder. :173go1:

Great work Huub, :applause::applause::applause:

Here are a few additional shots of the plane:

http://forum.siminsider.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=554

Yes, I also hold a privileged seat. :d

FelixFFDS

October 15th, 2009, 14:46

Wow, the things you can do with FLight SHop nowadays, who wudda thunk it!

2Low

October 15th, 2009, 17:55

I've only purchased Allied aircraft up to this point but that will definitely change when this pup goes to market! Outstanding detail.

Tylerb59

October 15th, 2009, 18:17

10/10 :applause:

RudiJG1

October 15th, 2009, 18:27

I've only purchased Allied aircraft up to this point but that will definitely change when this pup goes to market! Outstanding detail.

And, oh, the the early variants of these are FUN to fly...Axis or no.

Daycab

October 15th, 2009, 18:28

I got nothing here. I am simply in awe...

Do you have a guess as to how long you have in painting that?

daycab

Javis

October 15th, 2009, 18:59

I shot a lot of cockpit photos myself so i know how difficult it is. No clue as to what cockpit this actually is, judging by the km/h on the airspeed indicator and rudder peddals it might be German ?....Messerschmidt, Focke Wulf maybe ?...

What makes these photos stand out from most cockpit photos is the total lack of flashlight washout. He must've been using one of those fancy flashlight filters like my friend Bernard is using here :

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/bernards.jpg

Improve on these photos ? .... Well, there's always room for improvement of course but personally i think this collection will stand out positively amongst the truckload of cockpit photos i have on my HD.

Thanks for posting them, Huub, i hope you don't mind me copying them. They might come in very handy when sometime i might get to modeling an old German fighter aircraft. ( you like old German fighter aircraft, do you ?... ) I would need the name of the photographer when it'll come to that of course. I will be in touch with you then.

Cheers,
Jan :d

stiz

October 16th, 2009, 01:52

sure has come along way since the gauge thread over at netwings years ago! :applause:

Sascha66

October 16th, 2009, 06:38

The best!:medals:

Gibbage

October 16th, 2009, 07:56

That is amazing work. As an artist myself, I can tell this will be a step above the rest. The FW-190 will be an amazing product!

calypsos

October 16th, 2009, 08:03

It can be improved...................by being 'silky smooth' (like the L-39) too, on most people's systems. Looking stunning is only half the battle in FSX!

Mathias

October 16th, 2009, 08:26

WOW, thanks everyone for your overwhelming responses, didn't expect that, really.

It can be improved...................by being 'silky smooth' (like the L-39) too, on most people's systems. Looking stunning is only half the battle in FSX!

Calypsos, I'm running FSX on 3 machines ranging from a 2GHZCPU/256MBGPU laptop over an Athlon 64X2 4600+ with 512 Geforce 7600GT to an Intel E8600 Wolfsdale with 512MB ATI Firepro 7600. The fps always stay where I locked them on the various machines, that is 20/25/30.
Performance is taken seriously and we make sure that this ship will run on most machines.

Rezabrya

October 16th, 2009, 09:00

For somebody who is a bit ignorant on this subject, can anyone explain to me what the differences are between the old FW-190 release and this new one? I would really appreciate it.

Mathias

October 16th, 2009, 09:24

For somebody who is a bit ignorant on this subject, can anyone explain to me what the differences are between the old FW-190 release and this new one? I would really appreciate it.

Rezabrya, this new package renders the late Fw190A variants, A-5 to A-9 whereas the "old" package has the early variants A-1 to A-4.
Beside the version-specific differences there's a hole lot of improvements in the new package that will be applied to the early variants also.
Both packages will see some sort of marriage, that is if you purchase both or allready have one you get the second for something like the half price +- a few bucks.

Nick C

October 16th, 2009, 09:59

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http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_020.jpg

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_021.jpg

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_022.jpg

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_023.jpg
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huub vink

October 16th, 2009, 10:11

It can be improved...................by being 'silky smooth' (like the L-39) too, on most people's systems. Looking stunning is only half the battle in FSX!

Calypsos, As you might have understood I'm one of the beta testers of these models. Perhaps suprising, but I have a quite modest PC (see below). My framerates are locked at a target of 20 fps, but my PC has no problems of keeping the desired 20 fps with any of these models.

Intel Core2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13 GHz
4.0 Gb RAM (only 3.4 Gb is seen, due to limitations of 32 bits Vista).
Nvidea GeForce 8800 GTS
Vista Home Premium SP1
Monitor IIyama ProLite E1900WS, resolution 1440 x 900

Cheers,
Huub

Rezabrya

October 16th, 2009, 10:22

ryanbatc

October 16th, 2009, 10:38

Nick what levels of AA do you run? Must be 16x? I can never seem to get my shots that crisp....

jankees

October 16th, 2009, 11:22

Both packages will see some sort of marriage, that is if you purchase both or allready have one you get the second for something like the half price +- a few bucks.

Me and my plastic friend are anxiously waiting....

Nick C

October 16th, 2009, 11:24

Nick what levels of AA do you run? Must be 16x? I can never seem to get my shots that crisp....

Combined 8xS presently.

Mathias

October 16th, 2009, 13:47

So am I to understand that if I already own the previous package, not only will you give me the new one for roughly half price, but it will also feature an upgrade to the older models to bring them up to the new model's standards? If so you are a fantastic guy. This is exactly how other developers should do business.

Yes, so basically, except that the early variants update is obviously not part of the late variants but a free download for owners of the early variants.
The early variants upgrade should follow with about a month delay post late variants release.

Rezabrya

October 16th, 2009, 13:49

Still a sale in my book. Can't wait for you to make the already fantastic early variants even better! Will be buying the Late Variants when they come out.

Nick C

October 19th, 2009, 14:23

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Cockpit lighting is fantastic!

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http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_031.jpg

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_032.jpg

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_033.jpg

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_034.jpg

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_035.jpg

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_028.jpg

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/classics_hangar/fw190/ch_fw190_029.jpg
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2Low

October 19th, 2009, 15:50

Wow, there is some serious FANTASTIC going on in those screen shots Nick!

Mathias, gimme, gimme, gimme! Oops that slipped out:engel016: what I meant to say was please finish up soonish. It looks wonderfull.

Scratch

October 19th, 2009, 16:49

I love it when the realism bar gets raised. Looks like it went way up with this one.
This one looks so good that the only immersion killer will be looking outside the cockpit. Nobody has terrain to match the realism of this a/c.

Daycab

October 19th, 2009, 20:02

My God, where did you learn to make textures like that? :eek: I look at that and I am just amazed. The detail is simply something to behold and I don't think I could ever match it...:applause:

Daycab