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dswo
October 14th, 2009, 05:48
Just passing on something I received in this morning's email:



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hinch
October 14th, 2009, 08:34
It's a great product, I think I got mine on offer too!

dswo
October 14th, 2009, 08:53
AVSIM review here: http://www.avsim.com/pages/0909/A2A/F4U.htm

peter12213
October 14th, 2009, 12:59
I have to say as an owner of this aircraft if you don't already have it then buy it now its well worth it!

MCDesigns
October 14th, 2009, 13:11
I have to say as an owner of this aircraft if you don't already have it then buy it now its well worth it!

Agreed!! :ernae:

Dain Arns
October 14th, 2009, 13:39
According to the review, there is an Accusim module in the works for this one?

Of course at $13.49 who cares. :icon_lol: Sold!

BOOM
October 14th, 2009, 13:44
Accusim would make this aircraft fantastic!! But I believe The A2A B-17 is up next

jpmes
October 14th, 2009, 14:01
Wow, she's a beauty

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t45/jpmes/crs4.jpg

Jean-Paul

krazycolin
October 14th, 2009, 15:33
Thank you. Glad you like it. We like it too.

peter12213
October 14th, 2009, 15:55
Yeah I love it!! Had it for a while and these were probably my best shots of her!
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8981/2009992211531.png

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6826/20099703230906.png

lawdawg
October 14th, 2009, 17:08
How good is the sound?
Is it pretty much the same as the P-47?

peter12213
October 14th, 2009, 17:40
Its amazing it sounds pretty much like the real steel, A2A always have had excellent sound, thats just my opinion though!

Rich
October 14th, 2009, 19:35
As far as I can tell it only has 3 paints, 1 for each model and all US, has anyone done FAA paints, as it is, not very tempting even at that price.

lawdawg
October 14th, 2009, 19:48
Thanks Peter.

Rich
October 14th, 2009, 23:41
Found 1 Royal Navy paint for The Fighter collection at Duxford so got the Corsair, added catapult and fixed the noseover on wire catch so not too bad, the model is quite nice but my flying needs polishing

spatialpro
October 15th, 2009, 03:05
added catapult and fixed the noseover on wire catch

How did you do that? I'd like to do the same...

Thanks

Andy

Snaker
October 15th, 2009, 03:51
Here is a link to several repaints. WWII, Korea, etc....

http://wingsofpower-repaints.blogspot.com/2009/05/a2a-aircaft-factory-repaints-f4u-1d.html

:ernae:

Rich
October 15th, 2009, 04:12
Unfortuntely no FAA


Here is a link to several repaints. WWII, Korea, etc....

http://wingsofpower-repaints.blogspot.com/2009/05/a2a-aircaft-factory-repaints-f4u-1d.html

:ernae:

Rich
October 15th, 2009, 04:14
For me to Know and you to find out,trial and error


How did you do that? I'd like to do the same...

Thanks

Andy

SkippyBing
October 15th, 2009, 07:05
Bizarrely if you download the paintkit it includes a layer for FAA Pacific markings. Admittedly all the versions have the wrong wingtips but it's something I can live with.
Managed to land once on the Vic without Rich's adjustments which I feel may have been more luck than judgement!
Has anyone got the wings to fold?

peter12213
October 15th, 2009, 08:08
yeah its the wingfold tab just like normal for me anyway!

BOOM
October 15th, 2009, 10:38
On early morning patrol,somewhere in the south Pacific.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/badaboom/fsx2009-09-2703-10-02-13.jpg

Bomber_12th
October 15th, 2009, 10:39
Very nice screenshot, Patrick! Reminds me a lot of the game "Pacific Fighters".

Peritas
October 15th, 2009, 11:49
Hi! Which are the coordinates for Acceleration's hook and catapult?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Luca

spatialpro
October 15th, 2009, 11:58
Which are the coordinates for Acceleration's hook and catapult?

Yes, please tell us. Pretty please.

Lateral-G
October 15th, 2009, 14:52
Great add-on! and a perfect price to boot.

-G-

BOOM
October 15th, 2009, 16:55
Very nice screenshot, Patrick! Reminds me a lot of the game "Pacific Fighters".

Cheers,Thanks very much John!!:ernae:

jojohnson9
October 15th, 2009, 17:27
I wondered what would get me out of my A2A "Cub". Well the A2A F4U has gotten me back to the Nimitz/Eisenhower flight deck. This is a great Corsair and at $13.49 is the best deal since the Louisiana purchase. Okay, that's maybe a little over the top...but it is very good deal. I love "flying" this airplane.

Rich
October 15th, 2009, 17:29
Cat launch settings


Copy paste this into your aircraft.cfg directly under the [LIGHTS] entries it will add cat launch to the Corsair and so you can see the hook up point switch on your lights and you should see a green light close to the deck just in front of the prop, that light is what you need to get onto the shuttle, press your Shift+I keys and you should be ready to launch.

light.3 = 3, 10.423, 0.0, -9.42,fx_navgre //launch_bar_lug

[launch_assistance]
launch_bar_pivot = 6.433, 0.0, -3.522
launch_bar_lug = 10.423, 0.0, -7.42

after pasting the above into your aircraft.cfg the bit we are concerned with should look like this

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing, 6=taxi, 7=recognition,
8=wing, 9=logo, 10=cabin
light.1=4, -5.1, 0, 2.0, fx_af_f4u_vc
light.2=5, 0.4, -17.3, -1.9,fx_shockwave_landing_light_tail_old
light.3=3, 10.423, 0.0, -9.42,fx_navgre //launch_bar_lug

[launch_assistance]
launch_bar_pivot = 6.433, 0.0, -3.522
launch_bar_lug = 10.423, 0.0, -7.42

As to the arrester bit I took at face value what a reviewer said about a nasty noseover and applied a cure before actualy testing it, since testing without the cure as Skippy never mentioned noseover it seems ok to me.
The arrestor is built into the model hence no [TailHook] entry in the aircraft.cfg

Please let me know if anyone suffers the noseover syndrome and I will look again at it, still checking the stopping distance.

Rich
October 15th, 2009, 17:48
Sorry should have asked in the previous post could anyone who tries it give some feed back, positive or negative as to whethere it works for you or not, works ok or it's crap will do

Many thanks

Rich
October 15th, 2009, 18:38
The arrested stopping distance is fine as far as I am concerned relevant info in the pic so I will leave the arrester bit alone.

The ship is the upcomming HMS Victorious but the deck is my own mess for doing arrester calibrating and cat launch testing and will not be part of the release version the 4 numbered lines represent the 4 wires stopping distance ignore the blue it was from a previous test on a different aircraft.

Look at the top right corner you will see the touchdown details, Wire caught,Speed and descent rate.

The Corsair has a small bounce tendancy so watch it

Rich
October 15th, 2009, 19:04
Luca,

There were none the hook is in the model so does not need a entry in the aircraft.cfg, there is no cat in the model so I added settings in the aircraft.cfg which gives cat ability




Hi! Which are the coordinates for Acceleration's hook and catapult?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Luca

Peritas
October 16th, 2009, 00:09
Thank you very much Rich!

Best regards,
Luca

Rich
October 16th, 2009, 00:13
Luca, does it work for you ?


Thank you very much Rich!

Best regards,
Luca

Peritas
October 16th, 2009, 00:18
I tell you this evening (Italy time zone)...
Thanks!

Best regards,
Luca

DennyA
October 16th, 2009, 07:50
Sooo bummed I saw this too late!

Rich
October 16th, 2009, 22:17
So can I take it no one tried it ? it did'nt work so will not bother answering ?

It is a bit disheartening when there is no feed back and makes it look like a execise in time wasting when people asked for the settings.

Peritas
October 17th, 2009, 00:00
Rich, you are right!
Your settings are ok for me! :ernae:
Thanks again!

Regards,
Luca

Rich
October 17th, 2009, 00:07
Luca, thanks there should be no reason for it not working it does on my setup but it is nice to know it works for others too

spatialpro
October 17th, 2009, 01:19
Hi Rich,

Trust me, I will provide feedback, just rushed off my feet and haven't had chance to try it yet...

I agree, there is nothing worse than silence! Apologies for that.

All the best

Andy

spatialpro
October 17th, 2009, 02:56
OK Rich, I had chance to give it a quick trial.

The tailhook worked as it should... although I admit I need some practice, especially at curved approaches! I can see why the hook is written into the model on this one.

http://photos.classicbritishfiles.com/hosted/images/02m2wtxmkydkyqqzzz22.jpg

http://photos.classicbritishfiles.com/hosted/images/d2wnlmcnrfynmgh3mtdm.jpg

I really like your idea of using a light to line up with the cat! I can attach to the cat and hold-back no problem. However, when I power up to full throttle it releases without me triggering the cat... sending me over the bows at very low airspeed and into the drink! I've tried this on two different carriers with the same result. What am I doing wrong, or should I ****?! Like I said, this was just a very quick trial.

Many thanks

Andy

SkippyBing
October 17th, 2009, 07:31
Knocked up a repaint of a Corsair Mk2 of 1836NAS from HMS Victorious. Needs a bit of minor tweaking but I'll try and upload somewhere by the end of the weekend if anyone's interested.

spatialpro
October 17th, 2009, 07:47
Lovely job! Yes, I'm interested!

Does it have a spec map?

cheers

Andy

Peritas
October 17th, 2009, 08:37
I'm interested too, thanks!

Best Regards,
Luca

SkippyBing
October 17th, 2009, 10:24
Hopefully have it up on the Flying Stations site this weekend. Andy, it's got spec maps as they were included in the paint kit and that way you don't get weird reflections that show where the markings are for another aircraft!

Lateral-G
October 17th, 2009, 11:07
Knocked up a repaint of a Corsair Mk2 of 1836NAS from HMS Victorious. Needs a bit of minor tweaking but I'll try and upload somewhere by the end of the weekend if anyone's interested.

I am interested!

-G-

spatialpro
October 18th, 2009, 01:29
Sorry, I meant to say custom spec map. ;) :)

cheers

Andy

Rich
October 18th, 2009, 16:58
Airtrooper, not sure what is happening there it does'nt happen like that for me, what keys are you using to launch ?

Peritas, do you have this problem ?

Since it seems only you 2 are using the cat launch settings I have to rely on your feedback

However, when I power up to full throttle it releases without me triggering the cat... sending me over the bows at very low airspeed and into the drink! I've tried this on two different carriers with the same result. What am I doing wrong

Rich
October 18th, 2009, 20:10
Skip I am interested, oddly enough I have been working on that paint but for the old AH Fs9 model that does have the correct wing tips for RN Corsairs


Knocked up a repaint of a Corsair Mk2 of 1836NAS from HMS Victorious. Needs a bit of minor tweaking but I'll try and upload somewhere by the end of the weekend if anyone's interested.

heywooood
October 18th, 2009, 20:12
well I had to have a Corsair didn't I ?

but I do wonder why there are so few new paints for it to date...

Rich
October 18th, 2009, 21:31
Airtrooper, I have been trying to replicate your problem and the only way I can do it is with the C model , the one in your screenshot which I have not put the cat launch entries into, when run up to full throttle it will move as the brakes will not hold it and off you go straight off the end at low speed.

I have had the ones with the cat settings in on the cat with holdback engaged for over a minute at full belt with no movement the launched ok with the correct keys

Make sure you have the cat entries in all 3 models and are using shift+spacebar as the launch trigger and not just releasing the brakes.

Please let me know how you get on

However, when I power up to full throttle it releases without me triggering the cat... sending me over the bows at very low airspeed and into the drink! I've tried this on two different carriers with the same result. What am I doing wrong<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

spatialpro
October 19th, 2009, 00:24
Hi Rich,

Will do... but tight on time at the moment. Rest assured I will get back to you though...

Andy

spatialpro
October 19th, 2009, 12:38
Hi again Rich,

I haven't had much time to try this, but I did give it a shot (excuse the punn!) using a different Corsair on a different carrier (Ark Royal).

As you can I see I can hook up the cat just fine:

http://photos.classicbritishfiles.com/hosted/images/hmunny2jki5ynzfjwmyj.jpg

I noticed it is possible to have too much flap, which when you throttle up causes the nose to pitch over and the cat to disengage... and off you go for a swim!

However, I also tried the same with less flap, which prevented nose-over. I steadily increased throttle and at 30-40%, sure enough the cat disengaged... and off for another swim!

Very frustrating! Is anyone else getting the same? Is it just me?

Rich
October 19th, 2009, 19:27
Airtrooper, just spent a bit more time with the same model you are using, all previous tests done on Victorious with no problems did the same sort of thing on Ark.

I get a occasional slight tail lift on full power on the hold back, that is with no flaps and full flaps certainly no nose over on either and no holdback dissengaging.

It will launch at around 170 Kts with the throttle closed and continue flying when the throttle is opened after leaving the deck.

Have you got any other carrier programes such as Arr Cab or 3 Wire installed ?

At the moment since you are the only one giving any feedback on problems, while I suspect a few people have at least tried the cat settings none are saying anything in which case I am afraid I do'nt know what to suggest.

For me it works ok on all 3 models

mfitch
October 19th, 2009, 22:06
I tried to catapult off the default carrier this evening with no luck. It will not engage on the catapult (CTRL-I fails). It bounces around for a few seconds, then stops trying. This is the same effect I get with basically all tail draggers.

Rich
October 19th, 2009, 22:34
Try shift+I that I think is the accepted key strokes not CTRL+I and thats what works for me.

What taildraggers are you using ? there are very few set up for cat launch.




I tried to catapult off the default carrier this evening with no luck. It will not engage on the catapult (CTRL-I fails). It bounces around for a few seconds, then stops trying. This is the same effect I get with basically all tail draggers.

Rich
October 19th, 2009, 22:49
Taildraggers setup for cat launch on my FSX,

AH Sea Hurricanes

AH Seafires

AH Corsairs

RF Hellcat

Wildcat/ Martlet

AS Firebrand

AS Swordfish

Mr Ito's Barracuda = prop problems

Swordfish the new one Skippy is working on though as with the AS Sworfish not practical as it launches twice as fast as its max speed

The donation ware Albacore.

Rich
October 19th, 2009, 23:09
Just did a cat launch with the Corsair in Airtoopers last screenies with the engine switched OFF left the deck at around 200 Kts and glided into to the sea

Rich
October 19th, 2009, 23:26
mfitch, as far as I can see CTRL+I is not allocated to anything


I tried to catapult off the default carrier this evening with no luck. It will not engage on the catapult (CTRL-I fails). It bounces around for a few seconds, then stops trying. This is the same effect I get with basically all tail draggers.

Rich
October 19th, 2009, 23:46
As far as I can remember the only taildragger set up for cat and trap straight out of the box is the Westland Wyvern.

All the ones listed above I added cat lanuch to and fixed some not so bright hook settings, often a straight copy paste from another model will not work well

SkippyBing
October 20th, 2009, 01:36
I don't get any problems launching off the cat with the Corsair either. I had problems trying a free take off but that's probably because there was only 6kts of wind over the deck!
Free take-off with the Swordfish is another matter, you wonder if the ship's going to overtake!

spatialpro
October 20th, 2009, 02:48
Just did a cat launch with the Corsair in Airtoopers last screenies with the engine switched OFF left the deck at around 200 Kts and glided into to the sea

A short message as I'm at work...

I'm guessing I could launch at idle in the way you describe above, then power up as I come off the deck. This could be a work-around, but I'd rather launch under power. In one of your posts above you mention powering up to 100% for a minute or more whilst still on the cat, but there is little chance of that in my case.

I think the next thing I'll try is replicate the situation with the Wyvern... then I'll know if it is the Corsair or something more generic with my setup...

All the best

Andy

Rich
October 20th, 2009, 03:03
Skip thanks for your reply, there should be nothing wrong with the cat launch all my tests were with Vic and Ark stopped just loafing around, the engine off launch confirmed a gentle glide from around 200 Kts leaving the deck to making a big splash.

Airtrooper the only explaination is there is something wrong in your setup, if you do the shift+I thing once only followed by full throttle then shift+space it should work, you should not need a zero throttle launch, however see how you fare with the Wyvern

Rich
October 20th, 2009, 03:45
Seems I can not edit to delete the Corsair cat settings please ignore that post as it looks like it does'nt work.

Mods please remove that post

mfitch
October 20th, 2009, 12:41
mfitch, as far as I can see CTRL+I is not allocated to anything

Thanks, I just typed that wrong. I was using the correct command (it attempts to connect).

For those who are launching tail draggers (except for the Wyvern which is special) what are your realism settings? Mine are always at max. Perhaps this makes a difference.

spatialpro
October 20th, 2009, 13:16
Thanks, I just typed that wrong. I was using the correct command (it attempts to connect).

For those who are launching tail draggers (except for the Wyvern which is special) what are your realism settings? Mine are always at max. Perhaps this makes a difference.

Always at Max!

Rich
October 20th, 2009, 15:55
mfitch, you said

For those who are launching tail draggers (except for the Wyvern which is special) what are your realism settings? Mine are always at max. Perhaps this makes a difference.

There is nothing special about the Wyvern it uses the same kind of cat and hook settings tailored to that aircraft and others with those settings tailored to the aircraft should and do work at least for some.

Not sure what settings I have for realism but will check max later.

How close are you to the cat hookup position? the settings I posted has a small blue lihgt just under the prop when the lights are switched on which is the hookup point, what carriers are you using ? I only use Ark Royal and the as yet unreleased Victorious that I know do work.

Rich
October 20th, 2009, 18:04
Airtrooper, just tried it with realism sliders to max and that gives around 5 seconds at max power then the launch assist dissengages and you move off under engine power only and fall of the deck into the drink try the realism settings as per this screenie which will give you a good bit longer, the 5 sec is I think a FSX thing.

Are you setting up the launch to watch it in spot view or setting it up in spot opening the throttle then going for cockpit view to launch, if you are doing that try engaging holdback etc and move to cockpit before opening the throttle and do'nt delay the launch.

Your problem is I think with the realism settings so you will need to juggle them to suit yourself.

mfitch, use the light to position it in the launch box, are you using the default F18 to position on the cat then swapping to the Corsair ? if yes before you activate the cat check the light is in the launch box there may be a difference in aircraft cat settings in the models.

The F18 settings are in the model not the aircraft cfg that thing has been moved to my backup hanger out of FSX altogether so do'nt know much about it, how are you getting on the default carrier in freeflight ?

Realism settings do not seem to affect the actual hook up to the shuttle.

spatialpro
October 20th, 2009, 23:05
Ahhhh, this sounds interesting!

I'll give it a try later tonight...

Andy

mfitch
October 21st, 2009, 14:14
My realism settings are also maxed out. Many of my tests are performed by starting the carrier practice mission (default F-18) then switching aircraft before taxiing to the cat.

If I find time, I will try some of the other carriers (Ark Royal, Clemenceau, Nimitz are in my collection).

The Wyvern is different in at least one way: they have period catapult cables in their animations. This of course does not affect functionality, but it does make it a great model. I'm not sure why it has worked when others have not on my machine.

Rich
October 21st, 2009, 16:12
mfitch, as I said before the Wyvern is the only taildragger I know of that has cat and catch out of the box all the others I listed I added catlaunch capability to, check the aircraft.cfg for each of your taildraggers and see if it has a entry something like this,

[launch_assistance]
launch_bar_pivot = 6.433, 0.0, -3.522
launch_bar_lug = 10.423, 0.0, -7.42

If not then it is not cat capable until such a entry is put in tailored to that particular aircraft and will not hook up on the shuttle

Rich
October 21st, 2009, 17:48
JF Sea Mosquito another that did not have cat settings so I added them works fine for me And I think Henry has used it

spatialpro
October 22nd, 2009, 10:28
Hmmmm, progress of a kind here... I changed my settings to match. I did manage to successfully launch off the cat of Ark Royal, once. However, this was after many disengagements and re-engagements. The Corsair bounces around quite a bit when the cat first engages, but then it disengages of its own accord... with the throttle still at idle (worse than before). Ark Royal seems to bounce around a lot for me anyway, so I'm wondering if this is the issue, i.e. aircraft being "thrown off" the cat. Perhaps this is something to do with me using real world weather (via REX v2) and it being pretty windy at the moment.

Again, I'll have to try other aircraft. Right now I just can't land the Wyvern successfully and getting very annoyed with myself... time to step away from the PC! If I were shotting this many approaches and been waved off this many times I would have been diverted ashore long ago!

I should also go back to basics and try the default F-18...

mfitch
October 22nd, 2009, 13:02
Likewise I have managed a single, successful launch of the Corsair from the Ark Royal. It failed to engage on the first attempt, but for some unknown reason it did work the second time and catapulted nicely. My first attempt on the Clemenceau engaged then disengaged when the throttle was increased.

The jumping around reported is what I normally see. It looks like FSX is trying to place the plane level which of course is wrong for a taildragger. This leads to a sequence of level then falling back on the tail wheel until FSX gives up and disengages the cat.

I still plan to check if FSX is overly concerned about position when engaging these. Normally if the plane is mostly in the correct position and attitude, FSX corrects the rest without complaint (any jet I have tried).

Rich
October 22nd, 2009, 20:42
Think I will leave things as they are as no amount of juggling the cat settings will fix the problems you both have, you could try putting your realism slider to easy and see what happens if all ok go to medium and try again if ok juggle the sliders upward 1 at a time, I tried the cat hookup with everything at max and it worked ok with no jumping about just a slide into position.

Maybe Ms interpretation of realism is fiction.

"Perhaps this is something to do with me using real world weather (via REX v2) and it being pretty windy at the moment"

Maybe I do'nt have it so can't say but I never have.

"Ark Royal seems to bounce around a lot for me anyway"

I do'nt have any bouncing around with Ark just slight swaying only noticable in gear legs compresing

Anyway I am happy with the cat launch settings I have done, they work for me.

spatialpro
October 24th, 2009, 13:40
I've had a chance to go back to basics flying the F-18 onto the Ark Royal in the FSX "fair weather"... with inconclusive results. At first when I hooked onto the cat it kept disengaging and re-engaging, on and off every few second. After taking a turn about the deck and hooking up again it stuck... I could spool up to full afterburner for minutes at a time and she wouldn't budge! Then another time I spooled up just beyond idle and the cat disengaged again!

This all means the problem is not the Corsair!

One theory I found on other threads is too much cross-wind over the deck (or even if low wind speed, the carrier steaming cross-wind itself) causes the cat to disengage. I'm using "fair weather" with low winds, but then I do have the Ark steaming at full tilt (~30 knots), so a few degrees sailing out of wind may cause a reasonable cross-wind component...

spatialpro
October 30th, 2009, 16:58
She is on SALE again... this time at 50% off!

http://www.fspilotshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=2075

For those who didn't get her last time, now is your chance...

RobH
October 30th, 2009, 18:22
Thank you for the heads up Airtrooper! I just picked her up:ernae:

DennyA
October 31st, 2009, 22:01
Sale's still going on!

http://www.fspilotshop.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=268

Not sure how long the sale will last. Just picked her up tonight.

Hopefully this is a result of the last sale doing so well, so we might see some more price drops. $12.50 is an awesome price for this great-looking/flying plane.