Cirrus for FSX?

[tigisfat]

Who makes one? is it good?

Ya'll know me; if there's a horrible review, please don't hold back. I want to hear it all.

[glennc]

Other than http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/?

Glenn

[spotlope]

The Eaglesoft version is damn nice.

[tigisfat]

The Eaglesoft version is damn nice.


That's a portover, isn't it? How well does it do on frames, and how does the glass cockpit compare to the real thing?

[spotlope]

As far as I know, it's a native FSX reworking of the FS9 version. My frame rates are quite acceptable, although slightly less than steam-gauge aircraft. I'm not familiar enough with Avidyne glass to comment on how it compares to the real deal.

[tigisfat]

Can I have some screenies?

I became a Cirrus pilot last week, I can try to tell you how close the avionics are.:jump: This is also why I'm shopping for one.

To be honest, I've made it a point to never buy eaglesoft products because of their attitudes and treatment of customers and forumgoers. My last spat with them was years ago, so I may be willing to forgive and forget.

[Wombat_VC]

If the Eaglesoft Cirrus Avidyne is not close enough, one can upgrade it to this one:

http://www.flight1tech.com/avidynestudent.asp

[Wombat_VC]

Dusted my Cirrus SR22G3 Turbo (rev. 1.5) and flew it. The exterior and cockpit are nice but the Avidyne is as basic as FSX default G1000.

[n4gix]

Dusted my Cirrus SR22G3 Turbo (rev. 1.5) and flew it. The exterior and cockpit are nice but the Avidyne is as basic as FSX default G1000.

The Avidyne MFD is a display device and relies entirely on external sources to provide the inputs...

...so, it is as realistic as the real one is, insofar as the GPS inputs from the default fs9gps.dll engine is capable.

If one wants more realism, RXP are the only source for an "authentic as possible" GPS source.

[n4gix]

That's a portover, isn't it? How well does it do on frames, and how does the glass cockpit compare to the real thing?

It is most decidedly not a portover, as I invested several hundred hours* carefully rebuilding the model to be 100% native FSX... :ernae:
*many of which were spent translating the model's internal XML script from the FS9 syntax to the new FSX syntax.

[tigisfat]

Dusted my Cirrus SR22G3 Turbo (rev. 1.5) and flew it. The exterior and cockpit are nice but the Avidyne is as basic as FSX default G1000.


pics please?:ernae:

[CBris]

If you can't wait, simply Google "Eaglesoft Cirrus" and take your pick of the images. This plane was a fairly early FSX release and there were many screenies posted on various fora at the time.

That Google search gives quite a few results to cover all eventualities ;)

[ryanbatc]

Can I have some screenies?

I became a Cirrus pilot last week, I can try to tell you how close the avionics are.:jump: This is also why I'm shopping for one.

To be honest, I've made it a point to never buy eaglesoft products because of their attitudes and treatment of customers and forumgoers. My last spat with them was years ago, so I may be willing to forgive and forget.

Lucky for you hehe....those things are pricey. They are built at the airport I control traffic at (DLH)

I use Eaglesoft's SR22 G3 models with the Avidyne avionics. Most the newer Cirruses today fly the Garmin G1000 units. I've only had a few rides in cirruses but the PFD portion of the simulation is very close to real life. The MFD like Bill said is based on the default GPS system, but I like it fine. I've also swapped out the ES GNS units for the RXP GNS430W units - love it!

Odd you have had bad experiences with ES - I've only had good ones...

One of the best native GA acft for FSX imho

Anyway, some pics:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr000-43.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr007-19.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr013-6.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr004-30.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr019-3.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr005-31.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr007-21.jpg

[bkeske]

Many real world pilots have 'flown' the Eaglesoft Cirrus' and have never had a terrible thing to say. In fact, many have applauded ES's work and utilize it as a great training tool for the Avidyne avionics.

As I mentioned on another forum, I have all three, and enjoy them all.

A 'must have(s)' IMO.

[N400QW]

Who makes one? is it good?
Ya'll know me; if there's a horrible review, please don't hold back. I want to hear it all.

Here ya go. No this is not an FS9 "portover" and neither are our SR20 or SR22 Turbo.

Eaglesoft has been working for quite a few months to revise our Avidyne Entegra Systems for use in FSX.
In addition, we have managed to rebuild our FSX Cirrus SR22G2 to Full FSX/SP2/DX10 Compliance.
This Upgrade adds Scimitar Prop and 16:9 Ratio Widescreen Panels along with View and VC Window Tint toggle as in our SR22G2/G3 Turbo.
This is a first look at the new low Draw Call, .DDS Textured, DX10, 3D Studio Max model for improved performance in FSX!
Now completed and released this FSX SR22 Upgrade is provided at NO COST to current owners of our original FSX Cirrus SR22!
Current owners should remove their current installation and simply redownload and reinstall using their original Key and Password :D
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_01.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_02.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_03.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_04.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_05.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_09.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_10.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_11.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_12.jpg
Thanks for your patience while we've rebuilt this one from scratch ;)

[N400QW]

That's a portover, isn't it? How well does it do on frames, and how does the glass cockpit compare to the real thing?
No "portover" of the SR22 Turbo either. Our Avidynes are currently being used in some real world motion simulators as are our Dual GNS 430s.

Sorry for the poor resolution. Resized from 1680X1050.:icon_lol:
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/gx1.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/gx2.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/gx4.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/gx5.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/gx6.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/gx7.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/gx8.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/gx9.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/gx10.jpg
Nick Preston has outdone himself on this one! These are a must see at hi res in sim! :lol:

[Wingnut172N]

I notice that Eaglesoft didn't model the new G3 features, such as the new wing with increased dihedral, or the new, narrower track, higher landing gear....that's disappointing. :(

Just flew a G3 today and was all set to buy the model before I saw the screenshots

[ryanbatc]

lol? :icon_lol:

[N400QW]

Can I have some screenies?

I became a Cirrus pilot last week, I can try to tell you how close the avionics are.:jump: This is also why I'm shopping for one.
To be honest, I've made it a point to never buy eaglesoft products because of their attitudes and treatment of customers and forumgoers. My last spat with them was years ago, so I may be willing to forgive and forget.
This is WIP. Haven't had time to do the FSX Shots yet but it too is FSX Compliant!
First look at Eaglesoft FS9 SR22G3 Turbo "Perspective" with G1000!
More about the FS9 and FSX Versions as schedules permit.
FS9 Shots as placeholders for short term.

http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22P5.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22P6.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22P7.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22P8.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22P9.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22P10.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22P11.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22P12.jpg
Nick Preston is doing an outstanding job on these!

[N400QW]

pics please?:ernae:
This is SR22G2/G3 Turbo Panel.
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/panel1.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/panel2.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/panel3.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/panel4.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/turbo_pnl4.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/panel21.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/panel22.jpg
Reduced from 1680X1050 ;)

[ryanbatc]

What sort of VC will the Perspective models have (avionics-wise)?

[N400QW]

I notice that Eaglesoft didn't model the new G3 features, such as the new wing with increased dihedral, or the new, narrower track, higher landing gear....that's disappointing. :(
Just flew a G3 today and was all set to buy the model before I saw the screenshots

Please read and understand the following.
Then go back and compare the G2 Wings and Fuselage with the G3 and "Perspective" Wings and Fuselage and you'll notice the differences.

All G2 models are designated GTS or SE while all G3 models are designated GTSX. That's the easy way for me to tell them apart ;)

Note: The wing root on the G2 models has air intake on each side and the Deice Leading Edge does not extend nearer to the Fuse.

Note: the wing root on the G3 model eliminates the air intake on the wing and moves it to right side of Fuselage near the nose and Deice Leading Edge does extend nearer to the Fuselage

Note: Another key is the Deice filler is on the left side of Fusealage on G2 models and on the top of left wing on G3 models.

Note: We could not offer both the G2 and G3 in the same package due to aircraft.cfg limitations and also pricing considerations.
Thus the SR22 G2/G3 Turbo Package does not have the G3 narrower and taller gear.

What has not been done is to narrow and raise the gear height on the "Perspective" Turbo Model. Try to keep in mind that it is a work in progress.:isadizzy:

[N400QW]

What sort of VC will the Perspective models have (avionics-wise)?

Same as the 2D. Eaglesoft Version of a very special build of the G1000.
Some may be aware that G1000s are tailor made for each aircraft and the "Perspective" is no exception.
The "Perspective" G1000 contains a lot of Cirrus Design Layout which resembles Cirrus Design Avidyne in appearance and function.:icon_lol:

[ryanbatc]

Cool. It's fun when you talk about the wing root fairings etc. I used to build these parts in Grand Forks, ND - I worked the wing line and built many wings/root fairings for the G2 and also some for the G3 once we transitioned to G3 the part schedule. My better half also worked wing line but did the bagging prep prior to the ovens...Too bad Cirrus has cut back A LOT of work in the past year. Many coworkers I met now are out of jobs :(

Here's one short final for Ry27 in DLH, probably one of their "first flight" models. I took this back in late 2007 though, when Cirrus was booming, we probably had 15 flights/day

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/ducttape1-1.jpg

[Wombat_VC]

How to tell if I have the latest installer?


Here ya go. No this is not an FS9 "portover" and neither are our SR20 or SR22 Turbo.

Eaglesoft has been working for quite a few months to revise our Avidyne Entegra Systems for use in FSX.
In addition, we have managed to rebuild our FSX Cirrus SR22G2 to Full FSX/SP2/DX10 Compliance.
This Upgrade adds Scimitar Prop and 16:9 Ratio Widescreen Panels along with View and VC Window Tint toggle as in our SR22G2/G3 Turbo.
This is a first look at the new low Draw Call, .DDS Textured, DX10, 3D Studio Max model for improved performance in FSX!
Now completed and released this FSX SR22 Upgrade is provided at NO COST to current owners of our original FSX Cirrus SR22!
Current owners should remove their current installation and simply redownload and reinstall using their original Key and Password :D
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_01.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_02.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_03.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_04.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_05.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_09.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_10.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_11.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/22_12.jpg
Thanks for your patience while we've rebuilt this one from scratch ;)

[Wombat_VC]

Here is the Flight 1 Tech version of the Avidyne:

http://www.flight1tech.com/Simulation/AvidyneStudent/stupop01.jpg

http://www.flight1tech.com/Simulation/AvidyneStudent/stupop02.jpg

http://www.flight1tech.com/Simulation/AvidyneStudent/stupop03.jpg

http://www.flight1tech.com/Simulation/AvidyneStudent/stupop04.jpg

http://www.flight1tech.com/Simulation/AvidyneStudent/stupop05.jpg

http://www.flight1tech.com/Simulation/AvidyneStudent/stupop06.jpg

http://www.flight1tech.com/Simulation/AvidyneStudent/stupop07.jpg

http://www.flight1tech.com/Simulation/AvidyneStudent/stupop08.jpg

http://www.flight1tech.com/Simulation/AvidyneStudent/stupop09.jpg

http://www.flight1tech.com/Simulation/AvidyneStudent/stupop010.jpg

http://www.flight1tech.com/avidynestudent.asp

[N400QW]

How to tell if I have the latest installer?

If in doubt, just redownload from our website and reinstall using your current key and password.
If you own the F1 Avidynes you already know the drill for their custom panel.cfg and that there is a performance hit associated with it.
The F1 Avidynes are a nice piece of work but their panel.cfg leaves parts of ours in place which result in a bit of a hit. :cool:

[N400QW]

Dusted my Cirrus SR22G3 Turbo (rev. 1.5) and flew it. The exterior and cockpit are nice but the Avidyne is as basic as FSX default G1000.

Wombat, just an FYI but... Our Avidynes are currently being used in some real world motion simulators as are our Dual GNS 430s. Hardly as basic as you suggest. :mixedsmi:

[cfso002]

I happened to log 15hr in an avidyne avionics SR22, and countless hrs in eaglesoft's SR22,

compare to a real SR22 with avidyne avionics,the eaglesoft's SR22 :

GNS430 lack of many function.
MFD lack of many function, as well as MAP item, data block item.
engine CHT too easy to overheat than the realthing.
fuel flow smaller than the real POH.
lean assist function only have best econ, without best performance.
the 2nd GNS430 is only a picture.
some electronic/power supply logic wrong.

even with these, the eaglesoft's SR22 is still a GREAT tool to help real world pilot in transition training for SR22 .
you can also download a free garmin GNS430 simulator in garmin's web, it's stand alone run,can help to learn more function of the GNS430.

if you like SR22, the eaglesoft's product is must have, absolutely.

[CBris]

I keep seeing thos "FSX Fully Certified" stickers... Can anyone who has one of these planes tell me if the paint textures include separately mapped specular textures that we painters can edit?

[N400QW]

I keep seeing thos "FSX Fully Certified" stickers... Can anyone who has one of these planes tell me if the paint textures include separately mapped specular textures that we painters can edit?

Chris, the "FSX Fully Certified" stamp means this is a true FSX/SP2/DX10 Compliant product.
We chose to not have a specular map or a bump map because this aircraft is so smooth.

I'll check to see if the spec map is still supported.:mixedsmi:

[N400QW]

I happened to log 15hr in an avidyne avionics SR22, and countless hrs in eaglesoft's SR22,

compare to a real SR22 with avidyne avionics,the eaglesoft's SR22 :

GNS430 lack of many function.
MFD lack of many function, as well as MAP item, data block item.
engine CHT too easy to overheat than the realthing.
fuel flow smaller than the real POH.
lean assist function only have best econ, without best performance.
the 2nd GNS430 is only a picture.
some electronic/power supply logic wrong.

even with these, the eaglesoft's SR22 is still a GREAT tool to help real world pilot in transition training for SR22 .
you can also download a free garmin GNS430 simulator in garmin's web, it's stand alone run,can help to learn more function of the GNS430.

if you like SR22, the eaglesoft's product is must have, absolutely.

Thanks. Actually the Lean Assist does have Best Performance but if you try you must do so in small slow increments as the band is very narrow.
GNS 430 #2 is as fully functional as GNS 430 #1.
The simulator supports one and only one active GNS at a time so no crossfill is possible.
The simulator power system does not support things as the real world.
Example: A six cylinder engine in real world is actually one cylinder in the simulator.:wavey::isadizzy:

[BananaBob]

How are the texture sheets? sections all over? Easy to do photoreals?

[Chacha]

WOW!

I am Speechless.... :applause:

I LOVE IT!!!

[N400QW]

How are the texture sheets? sections all over? Easy to do photoreals?

Bob, the repaint kits are on our Downloads Page. http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/downloads.htm
Suggest you take a look as you and Chris would produce some outstanding work.:icon_lol:

[N400QW]

WOW!



I am Speechless.... :applause:



I LOVE IT!!!


Many thanks Chacha.:mixedsmi:

[BananaBob]

Bob, the repaint kits are on our Downloads Page. http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/downloads.htm
Suggest you take a look as you and Chris would produce some outstanding work.:icon_lol:

OK, thanks Ron! :ernae:

[CBris]

Chris, the "FSX Fully Certified" stamp means this is a true FSX/SP2/DX10 Compliant product.
We chose to not have a specular map or a bump map because this aircraft is so smooth.

I'll check to see if the spec map is still supported.:mixedsmi:

Ah... thanks. I think I understand now.

[N400QW]

Chris, thanks for bringing this to our attention.
We will need to recompile the models to accept separate spec maps for fuse A and fuse B.
The originals included one general spec map for both sides as this work was done prior to the final FSX SDK.

No time frame but all of this will be done and a Free Upgrade issued at the appropriate time.:icon_lol:

[n4gix]

Ah... thanks. I think I understand now.

As Ron said, at the time we (mostly "I") worked without benefit of the full SDK, so I had to do a lot of by-guess-and-by-gosh to grok it out... :)

Having checked the FSX Materials this morning at Ron's request, adding the support for per-pixel-specular bitmaps is simple...

...what isn't simple is the time required to recompile all the various models and variations... :ernae:

[heywooood]

you Eaglesoft guys are alright...I don't care what anyone says haha:ernae:
I need that Sr22 - its on my short list...are you going to do the new Diamond D-Jet?

[N400QW]

you Eaglesoft guys are alright...I don't care what anyone says haha:ernae:
I need that Sr22 - its on my short list...are you going to do the new Diamond D-Jet?

Thanks. The DJet is on the long list, not the short list,:)

[heywooood]

thanks for the reply - I really do like what you guys are doing WRT current GA aircraft and systems.

There is a great write up in the newest 'Flying' mag...and its on the cover.

The D-Jet looks like a winner

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

So with respect to the glass panels I think I like Avidyne better than Garmin. I've several planes with the Garmin but based on screenshots like how the Avidyne displays better. If I buy an Eaglesoft cirrus can I put the Avidyne in say a Kodiak? I've been looking at the F1 Avidyne for some time now - what makes it so attractive to me (other than how it displays) is the TAWS - the big negative is of course the $100. But performance is also a concern. How many TAWS gauges are out there? I take it Eaglesoft does not do TAWS. Any plans for TAWS from Eaglesoft?

As for planes - when it comes to modern sleek aircraft I prefer Diamond. Cirrus are nice and I have no problem buying one from Eaglesoft but when are we going to see the DA-42 and are there any plans to do a DA-40?

Also as an area for development - nobody is doing LSAs of any kind. Why not? The use of Dynon gauges are an ideal match for these aircraft. For example I'd buy in a heartbeat a Flight Designs CTSW with Dynon gauges that had the option of either flying at USA LSA speeds or optionally Canada, South Africa and other places not so hung up on speed regulation speeds (all that would take is a different airfile/cfg).

The only plane I would buy faster than a high quality Diamond or CTSW is the plane nobody in the world of FS will ever apparently do - a Cessna 180/185 package done up like the Carenado 206 package.

-Ed-

[cfso002]

tks, N400QW, I retry and found it's true that I rush too much lean after the first peak ,making 'best power' not display,even though enrich back.

[Wingnut172N]

Hey Ron,

Are there any plans to update to the narrower landing gear and higher dihedral wing, or are you going to stick with only texture changes from G2 to G3?

If so, is there a timeframe for the new model? I'd be really interested in purchasing it.

[N400QW]

Hey All,
As for planes - when it comes to modern sleek aircraft I prefer Diamond. Cirrus are nice and I have no problem buying one from Eaglesoft but when are we going to see the DA-42 and are there any plans to do a DA-40?
-Ed-
FS9 Placeholders since the FSX version is WIP. Still early yet but wanted to offer a progress report :)
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_01.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_02.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_03.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_04.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_06.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_07.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_08.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_10.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_11.jpg

[N400QW]

Hey All,

So with respect to the glass panels I think I like Avidyne better than Garmin. I've several planes with the Garmin but based on screenshots like how the Avidyne displays better. If I buy an Eaglesoft cirrus can I put the Avidyne in say a Kodiak? I've been looking at the F1 Avidyne for some time now - what makes it so attractive to me (other than how it displays) is the TAWS - the big negative is of course the $100. But performance is also a concern. How many TAWS gauges are out there? I take it Eaglesoft does not do TAWS. Any plans for TAWS from Eaglesoft?

As for planes - when it comes to modern sleek aircraft I prefer Diamond. Cirrus are nice and I have no problem buying one from Eaglesoft but when are we going to see the DA-42 and are there any plans to do a DA-40?

Also as an area for development - nobody is doing LSAs of any kind. Why not? The use of Dynon gauges are an ideal match for these aircraft. For example I'd buy in a heartbeat a Flight Designs CTSW with Dynon gauges that had the option of either flying at USA LSA speeds or optionally Canada, South Africa and other places not so hung up on speed regulation speeds (all that would take is a different airfile/cfg).

The only plane I would buy faster than a high quality Diamond or CTSW is the plane nobody in the world of FS will ever apparently do - a Cessna 180/185 package done up like the Carenado 206 package.

-Ed-

No plans for TAWS in our Avidynes at this price point.
We hope to have the DA42 available by years end but no promises at this point.
Still early yet but wanted to offer a Panel progress report :)
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/42PA.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/42PB.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/42PC.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/42PD.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/42P1.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/42P2.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/42P3.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/42P4.jpg

[heywooood]

*wow* thats some kinda nice right there boys...

you all at ES have the night lighting thang all figured out

[N400QW]

tks, N400QW, I retry and found it's true that I rush too much lean after the first peak ,making 'best power' not display,even though enrich back.

Yes, we tried to make the "band" a little wider but the Best Power feature is indeed present.:)

[N400QW]

Hey Ron,
Are there any plans to update to the narrower landing gear and higher dihedral wing, or are you going to stick with only texture changes from G2 to G3?
If so, is there a timeframe for the new model? I'd be really interested in purchasing it.

Not for the SR22G2/G3 Package for reasons already stated.
The wing dihedral has already been changed but the effect is more subtle in our model than in real world.
The SR22 Turbo "Perspective" version will have the taller and narrower gear.:)

[N400QW]

*wow* thats some kinda nice right there boys...you all at ES have the night lighting thang all figured out

Thank you and thank the mods here for allowing me to update you all.:)

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Ron I appreciate the screenies and year end would be great. If the FS9 version is done why not market it? You may well get double sales! Still though I would ask are your gauges substitutable at all? If I were to buy a Cirrus and then the DA42 came out could I move the Avidyne into the DA42 in place of the Garmin? An Avidyne in a Kodiak/Epic would also be awesome! I'd likely buy the Avidyne separately as I did the Sandel pakage you offered earlier. If substitutable though the Cirrus suddenly looks a lot more interesting! Is a DA-40 in the pipeline at all?

-Ed-

[Naki]

Hey All,

Ron I appreciate the screenies and year end would be great. If the FS9 version is done why not market it? You may well get double sales! Still though I would ask are your gauges substitutable at all? If I were to buy a Cirrus and then the DA42 came out could I move the Avidyne into the DA42 in place of the Garmin? An Avidyne in a Kodiak/Epic would also be awesome! I'd likely buy the Avidyne separately as I did the Sandel pakage you offered earlier. If substitutable though the Cirrus suddenly looks a lot more interesting! Is a DA-40 in the pipeline at all?

-Ed-

Iris are making a DA-40.

[Wombat_VC]

Looking at the pics, am I right to say that you have modeled the Thielert engine instead of the Austro?


FS9 Placeholders since the FSX version is WIP. Still early yet but wanted to offer a progress report :)
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_01.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_02.jpg
http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/forum_shots/DA42_03.jpg
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[n4gix]

Looking at the pics, am I right to say that you have modeled the Thielert engine instead of the Austro?

Yes, and considering the number of months it took to get the mesh and textures accurate, there's little chance of it changing anytime soon... :ernae:

[Naki]

Looks very nice...Ive asked this before but didnt get answer ...is there plans to model the Lycoming powered TwinStar?

[N400QW]

Hey All,
Ron I appreciate the screenies and year end would be great. If the FS9 version is done why not market it? You may well get double sales! Still though I would ask are your gauges substitutable at all? If I were to buy a Cirrus and then the DA42 came out could I move the Avidyne into the DA42 in place of the Garmin? An Avidyne in a Kodiak/Epic would also be awesome! I'd likely buy the Avidyne separately as I did the Sandel pakage you offered earlier. If substitutable though the Cirrus suddenly looks a lot more interesting! Is a DA-40 in the pipeline at all?
-Ed-

Ed, the goal is to have the FS9 and FSX DA42 available by years end but there is much to go on both projects. The FS9 version is still incomplete.
Our Avidynes are locked to the Cirrus and are not transferrable.
No DA40 planned at this time. I think someone else has that one in pipeline.:isadizzy:

[N400QW]

Looking at the pics, am I right to say that you have modeled the Thielert engine instead of the Austro?
Yes, the original TDI Thielerts. :)

[N400QW]

Looks very nice...Ive asked this before but didnt get answer ...is there plans to model the Lycoming powered TwinStar?

No, not at this time. We are aware of the latest chages to the DA42 but will continue on the present path. :)

[Wombat_VC]

Yes, and considering the number of months it took to get the mesh and textures accurate, there's little chance of it changing anytime soon... :ernae:

Perhaps you can consider offering an optional AIR and/or CFG file that is tuned to the Austro characteristics for those who want to experience the Austro engine.

[N400QW]

Perhaps you can consider offering an optional AIR and/or CFG file that is tuned to the Austro characteristics for those who want to experience the Austro engine.
The costs of offering what you suggest is extremely prohibitive.:isadizzy:

[Wombat_VC]

Our Avidynes are locked to the Cirrus and are not transferrable.

I bought the Liberty XL for some of its gauges and found out the hard way. I will have to be very careful on exactly what I want to do with the aircraft before spending on another Eaglesoft product.

[N400QW]

I bought the Liberty XL for some of its gauges and found out the hard way. I will have to be very careful on exactly what I want to do with the aircraft before spending on another Eaglesoft product.
Well we do build integrated packages gentlemen.
I'm unsure about other developers but do expect that they have the same policy.
Imagine trying to remove the avionics from a Flight One ATR and use them in another vendors freeware aircraft for example.:isadizzy:

[Wombat_VC]

Well we do build integrated packages gentlemen.
I'm unsure about other developers but do expect that they have the same policy.
Imagine trying to remove the avionics from a Flight One ATR and use them in another vendors freeware aircraft for example.:isadizzy:

There is nothing wrong with that as long as both aircrafts reside in my HDD and my HDD alone, and both are obtained legally.

I can buy 2 different cars and interchange their parts. I can no longer expect warranty support after that, but there is no law against it. If car company A makes their part to stop working just because it is used in car B, it is their right but that would be the last time company A get a cent out of my wallet.

Fortunately, not all developers share the same policy and I know which developers I shall gladly do business with. At the end of the day, it is about value, as perceived by the customer, not the seller.

[jmig]

... At the end of the day, it is about value, as perceived by the customer, not the seller.

So, so true!

This applies in any product or service. Flight sim addons are no exception. Especially as the price rises.

[N400QW]

There is nothing wrong with that as long as both aircrafts reside in my HDD and my HDD alone, and both are obtained legally.

I can buy 2 different cars and interchange their parts. I can no longer expect warranty support after that, but there is no law against it. If car company A makes their part to stop working just because it is used in car B, it is their right but that would be the last time company A get a cent out of my wallet.

Fortunately, not all developers share the same policy and I know which developers I shall gladly do business with. At the end of the day, it is about value, as perceived by the customer, not the seller.

I did not imply there was something wrong or illegal about the practice...
I well remember doing the same thing when I first began flightsimulation.

I've come to realize that a fully integrated package is much more enjoyable [read reliable and bug free] for me personally so that is my take on user perceived value.
Of course the other side of that coin is that some do weird stuff with avionics that should remain in the original aircraft then show up in forums asking support for what they broke.:isadizzy:

If your purchase criteria includes the ability to strip out avionics for personal use in other aircraft for personal use then so be it.:)

In our case the SR20, SR22, and SR22 Turbo Avidynes are specific to each aircraft and true to the real thing.
What that means is that users cannot take SR22 Turbo Avidyne and place it in some freeware SR20 and receive support when it doesn't work well.:)

[Wombat_VC]

I did not imply there was something wrong or illegal about the practice...
I well remember doing the same thing when I first began flightsimulation.

I've come to realize that a fully integrated package is much more enjoyable [read reliable and bug free] for me personally so that is my take on user perceived value.
Of course the other side of that coin is that some do weird stuff with avionics that should remain in the original aircraft then show up in forums asking support for what they broke.:isadizzy:

If your purchase criteria includes the ability to strip out avionics for personal use in other aircraft for personal use then so be it.:)

In our case the SR20, SR22, and SR22 Turbo Avidynes are specific to each aircraft and true to the real thing.
What that means is that users cannot take SR22 Turbo Avidyne and place it in some freeware SR20 and receive support when it doesn't work well.:)

I believe we both agree on 2 points: Ripping is for personal use only, and do not expect support from developer when something screws up. :ernae:

[N400QW]

I believe we both agree on 2 points: Ripping is for personal use only, and do not expect support from developer when something screws up. :ernae:
Precisely.:wiggle:

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Ron how different is the Avidyne in the Cessna 400 versus the Cirrus - is there engine/fuel parameter display in the Columbia?

-Ed-

[N400QW]

Hey All,

Ron how different is the Avidyne in the Cessna 400 versus the Cirrus - is there engine/fuel parameter display in the Columbia?

-Ed-
Yes the C400 "Portrait" Avidynes have an Engine Page which contains TIT and other C400 specific features.:mixedsmi:

[lawdawg]

Ron, which aircraft do you recommend.
The Cirrus (version) or the C400? I am asking because I have the G2 and have been considering the turbo version or the C400.

Edit: Hi Box car. Long time no see.
I hope all is well my friend.

[boxcar]

Edit: Hi Box car. Long time no see.
I hope all is well my friend.

Chad: Doing well, thanks. Good to see you here this day as well. Saw that Nick finally got his
black repaint with the bunny on her tail, heh. Good on him! Hoping all is well with you.

[N400QW]

Ron, which aircraft do you recommend.
The Cirrus (version) or the C400?

Edit: Hi Box car. Long time no see.
I hope all is well my friend.
We like both and would start with Cirrus and then get the Columbia 400.:wiggle:

[lawdawg]

Chad: Doing well, thanks. Good to see you here this day as well. Saw that Nick finally got his
black repaint with the bunny on her tail, heh. Good on him! Hoping all is well with you.

Yeah, saw that too.
Still flying that stang?
All is well up here considering current affairs. Take care bud.

[lawdawg]

I am sure you like the both of them.
What is your reasoning for the one before the other?
Am downloading the C400 now and am looking for something to push me over the edge so to speak...lol
Towards the purchase edge.

[N400QW]

I am sure you like the both of them.
What is your reasoning for the one before the other?
Am downloading the C400 now and am looking for something to push me over the edge so to speak...lol
Towards the purchase edge.
No other rational than personal preference I suppose.:mixedsmi:
Excellent choice! I actually enjoy both so can't think of a reason to not own both...