DH Sea Venom for FSX

[RyDraiggoch]

Rob Robertson just gifted the world of FSX with a DH Sea Venom for FSX Acceleration -- in FAA and RAN paints - its over at the Pond now :)


Leif

[jeansy]

any more info

payware freeware?

links links links

please

[Ferry_vO]

http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

:engel016:

[Bjoern]

Congratulations Sir, you've just beaten my otherwise excellent "interneting" skills, since I have no idea where in the corners of the world wide web this thing got uploaded to.

I've tried googling "FSX Sea Venom", "Rob Robertson" and a combination of those as well as assuming that "the Pond" is a nickname for www.mudpond.org (http://www.mudpond.org), yet I turned up empty handed every time.


A direct link or way more precise information could have worked wonders... Check Bob Jane Catalogue (https://www.ladysavings.com/publix-weekly-ad/?bob-jane/) on Catalogue AU (https://www.ladysavings.com/publix-weekly-ad/?).


- Edit: Too slow.

- Edit²: Thanks, Ferry!

[Daube]

Thanks for the info, downloading right now :)

[jeansy]

thank you

[falcon409]

. . . . .A direct link or way more precise information could have worked wonders. . .Thanks, Ferry!
Yep, never assume that everyone knows the code, lol

[RyDraiggoch]

Gentlemen.
(And I use the term loosely ;) )
I was remiss...... usually I add the link after my signature - but I was at work minding MD80s and , after having several problems recently with the site due to a server crash about a week ago - we had finally got everything working again and could publish Robs Sea venom.

for those of you who don't know -- www.classicbritishfiles.com AKA "The Pond" due to our benefactors screen name "The Happy Otter" Rob English.

SO there you have it -- come visit -- browse the Library - its back up and running and for those of you who like old FAA aircraft -- there are more coming.

Also Dave Molyneaux, Keith Paine and Company have almost finished with the RAE Llanbedr project which includes the Jindivik in both flyable and AI configuration - numerous repaints for various AI aircraft and new scenery
specifically for JF .


Oh yes Bjorn and Matt
ALL freeware - the closest we get to payware is doing repaints for some payware - and of course passing the hat occasionally to keep Mr English
in Beer and Ciggies ;)

Thanks putting up with my over enthusiastic PR job -- I just get to manage the Pond and play with all those wonderful Beta toys.....Look for More Austers from Mr Molyneuax in the near future - although they are Fs9 they post over very well to "The Dark Side"

Cheers now

Leif

[ColoKent]

....a straight DH Venom?

Kent

[RyDraiggoch]

....a straight DH Venom?

Kent
I believe the UKMIL group is working on the Single seat Venom

The Sea Venom will be an on going project -- I know there is some talk
of upgrading the wingfold for it and a Shuttle and Strop so it may
be launched from some of the excellent FSX carriers.

Lars Fors has a request in to RobR to modify the FAW21 to a Swedish Air Force FB Venom for the
historical group he is with.

Leif:isadizzy:

RobR may beat me around the head when he comes back from his holidays (He scarpered as soon as the
Venom was released!!!. But there is a twin engined FAA aircraft with a fairly complicated wing fold sequence
in the offing for the Dark Side.

[Bjoern]

I was at work minding MD80s

That's too cool. You're off the hook. :d



Oh yes Bjorn and Matt
ALL freeware - the closest we get to payware is doing repaints for some payware - and of course passing the hat occasionally to keep Mr English
in Beer and Ciggies ;)

I know CBF...as long as it's referred to correctly. :engel016:

[peter12213]

Common guys no pics! I take it were talking Skysim??

[simkid22]

Images from the Classic British Files

http://classicbritishfiles.com/components/com_remository_files/file_image_1532/img_1532_03.jpg (http://classicbritishfiles.com/components/com_remository_files/file_image_1532/th_1532_03.jpg)
http://classicbritishfiles.com/components/com_remository_files/file_image_1532/img_1532_01.jpg
http://classicbritishfiles.com/components/com_remository_files/file_image_1532/img_1532_02.jpg

[dhazelgrove]

I believe the UKMIL group is working on the Single seat Venom


For "is" read "was".
It would have been the Venom FB.4 - and associated variants.

Dave

[UKMIL]

we could still be:applause:

[ananda]

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6707/venom1a.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/venom1a.jpg/)

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4411/venom3.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/venom3.jpg/)


http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5564/venom2x.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/venom2x.jpg/)

[falcon409]

Very impressive freeware offering. I like the sounds too.

[Roger]

Thank you very much:ernae:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/seavenom-1.jpg

[RyDraiggoch]

Roger
That is (as usual with you) a beautiful screenie, might we borrow it for the front page of "The Pond"

Cheers

leif

[Roger]

No problem Leif:engel016:

[Roger]

Could do with a sticky.

[Roger]

Here's the original jpeg Leif...

[Roger]

Leif,
I'm only seeing the RAN scheme. There is only one texture folder and one cfg entry for the Aussie aircraft.

[DaveWG]

Roger, the RN and RAN versions are separate downloads.

RN version: http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=130&func=fileinfo&id=1531

RAN: http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=130&func=fileinfo&id=1532

[Henry]

does deserve a sticky:applause:
H

[Roger]

Roger, the RN and RAN versions are separate downloads.

RN version: http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=130&func=fileinfo&id=1531

RAN: http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=130&func=fileinfo&id=1532

Thanks for that Dave! I'm ever capable of being daft and missing the obvious:ernae:

Thanks for the sticky H:ernae:

[wilycoyote4]

Must download the Aussie, too. :ernae::medals: Many thanks. :applause: Smooth stable low speed carrier approach, IMVVVHO. :icon29::guinness::icon29:

[noddy]

Great job.

11892

11893

11894

[ananda]

Smooth stable low speed carrier approach
Not like the real one then ;)

http://www.seavixen.org/index.cfm?fa=contentGeneric.pkbqykvfdkdyslax&pageId=95903



George

[noddy]

Not like the real one then ;)

http://www.seavixen.org/


Um wrong jet not the Vixen.

[ananda]

Ooops :isadizzy:

[Lateral-G]

http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

:engel016:

Link is dead...dreaded 404 error page...............

[kilo delta]

Link is dead...dreaded 404 error page...............


Try these links...

RN... http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=162&func=fileinfo&id=1531

RAN.... http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=162&func=fileinfo&id=1532

:)

[Daube]

I could finally test it. It's really a nice addon. I also appreciate all the additionnal cameras for external view, just so cool.
However, this has to be the strangest canopy I've ever seen. Since I do not know anything about the history of the real aircraft, can anybody explain why there's one seat high and one low ? Why not both on the same height ?
(explanations like "it's british so it has to be ugly" will not be sufficient ;) )

[calypsos]

The odd canopy is correct, the seating positions give the pilot a slightly raised view for carrier landings, whilst the observer (correct crew terminology for FAA nav/radar op in this aircraft) needed to be able to see the radar scope, which was lower down on the instrument panel. This arrangement led to the Sea Vixen, which had the observer sitting well below the pilot with no forward view at all.

[Daube]

Thanks for the explanations, Calypsos ! :ernae:

[Lateral-G]

Since I do not know anything about the history of the real aircraft, can anybody explain why there's one seat high and one low ? Why not both on the same height ?
(explanations like "it's british so it has to be ugly" will not be sufficient ;) )

The same seating arrangement was found in the A-6 Intruder. The B/N sat lower/a bit aft of the pilot. He had no flight controls to worry about so forward visibility wasn't an issue. It was his job to watch the radar. The seat needed to be aft and lower to allow using the hood on the radar scope.

-G-

[Daube]

Yes, but the canopy of the intruder was symetric, unlike this Sea Venom. Quite a strange technical choice they made....

[dhazelgrove]

Quite a strange technical choice they made....

Of course. It's British.
As an example, I can point you at the fact that the guns on the EE Lightning F.6 were sited immediately in front of a fuel tank.
Only the British could come up with a design like that.

Dave

[RyDraiggoch]

[QUOTE]Link is dead...dreaded 404 error page...............
Yesterday 14:19/QUOTE]

See thats what happens when you direct link into a site thats busy upgrading! :mixedsmi:


Rob English "The Happy Otter" has just finished a total overhaul of our site
it includes some new features - but by and large all the old stuff has been
cleaned up polished made to run faster and generally just a nice place for us
admin to hang out and work :guinness:

drop by we have some new things coming up for fsx and fs9 including the
fabled twin engined , Z pattern wing fold - very ugly FAA ASW aircraft. for FSX

leif

Oh yes and thank you gentlemen from the currently holidaying Rob Richardson for the wonderful response to
his first effort.

[rich byrne]

[QUOTE]Link is dead...dreaded 404 error page...............
Yesterday 14:19/QUOTE]




drop by we have some new things coming up for fsx and fs9 including the
fabled twin engined , Z pattern wing fold - very ugly FAA ASW aircraft. for FSX

leif



Fairey Gannet?

[djscoo]

[QUOTE=RyDraiggoch;259544]

Fairey Gannet?
OH PLEASE!:jump:
I will be a happy man if this is true...

[RyDraiggoch]

[QUOTE=rich byrne;259812]
OH PLEASE!:jump:
I will be a happy man if this is true...


Well Rob has it on his list -- and the ardous job of collecting information
has begun-- so far he has access to two possible three of the real thing.
The most difficult thing is finding a sound set to match the strange
Double mamba noise

Please have patience - it will be a while coming.

Leif

[calypsos]

What a cracking little aircraft this is!

I had trouble downloading it, but thanks to the nice people at Classic British Files, I now have it.

My payware FSX Alphasim Sea Venom is now history, I much prefer this one!!!

[ananda]

Fairey Gannet?

This one from FS9 works well as AI in FSX

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3865/gannet1.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/gannet1.jpg/)

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9774/gannet.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/gannet.jpg/)

[RyDraiggoch]

What a cracking little aircraft this is!

I had trouble downloading it, but thanks to the nice people at Classic British Files, I now have it.

My payware FSX Alphasim Sea Venom is now history, I much prefer this one!!!


Coming from you Trev that is high praise indeed! Rob will very very satisified
when he returns from the Canaries......

Ananda

While taking nothing from the Honorable Ito Sans models.

This will be a pure FSX model and judging by the amount of information we
"Trawlers" at CBF have already brought ashore for Rob - it will be worth the
wait.

Leif

[Z-AZ1USN]

A picture should be worth a few words here, look at how the nose tire is
sunken below the flight deck. How can we adjust for that, looks like it has
a very flat tire....

http://i35.tinypic.com/i525qd.jpg

[Rich]

AZ1USN

This is one of the worst cases of a flat tyre I have seen, what does it look like on concrete ??? not as flat as that I'll bet, What Carrier is that you have it on ????.

I use only the Ark Royal and HMS Victorious which have a slight flat tyre thing this I think is because the hardened deck is slightly lower than the visual deck giving the flat illusion entirely different to parked on concrete, the French Clemancau on the other hand has the hardened deck slightly higher than the visual as you can see in this screenshot.

So you have 2 choices do contact points for a model for each of your carriers set up on that carrier and have the plane hovering on a concrete apron or accept what you have.

Just a insight on what I have found, I had nothing to do with this model but it is very nice and is a keeper.

If you look at the main gear on this screenie you will see that it is above the deck, I would not hound modelers to raise or lower the hardened deck a inch or 2, very happy they gave it to us.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/RichRuscoe/SeaVenomgear.jpg

[Rich]

3 more screen shots to illustrate, 1 on concrete, 1 on HMS Ark Royal and 1 on HMS Victorious all the same aircraft model neither of the 2 on the carriers are sunk up to the hubs.


Concrete

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/RichRuscoe/VenomConcrete.jpg

HMS Ark Royal

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/RichRuscoe/VenomArk.jpg

HMS Victorious

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/RichRuscoe/Victorious.jpg

[Navy Chief]

Absolutely SUPERB! Thank you!

NC

[Z-AZ1USN]

[QUOTE=Rich;287737]AZ1USN

This is one of the worst cases of a flat tyre I have seen, what does it look like on concrete ??? not as flat as that I'll bet, What Carrier is that you have it on ????.

I was using Flight Deck 4 carrier (Nimitz or Reagan). I will try to see if
tire is flat on concrete.

[sparouty]

Hi!
Rich is right, hardened flight deck doesn't have the same altitude than the visual deck. I don't renember exactly why, but I had to move the Clemenceau hardened deck (a flickering something for sure :confused:)
I guess that SkippyBing had to do the same with his carriers.
The reason why I moved it up (and not down) was to make shadows showing up. FSX draws the shadows on the hardened surface, and if a visual surface is covering it, then no shadow should be visible.

By the way this Sea Venom looks great, and an Aquilon 202 repaint, with dark navy blue and French roundels (with anchor), should be perfect on Clemenceau's flight deck! :bump:

Regards,
Sylvain

[Rich]

Sylvain, many thanks for your reply, I am not a modeler so do not know what goes on in the modeling side all I can do is make a mess of a air file.

It is not realy practical for a aircraft modeler to have models individualy tailored to individual ships as they would practicaly all be wrong on land.

I apreciate all the work you modelers put in, I know Skippy and the team put in thousands of hours in one way or another on models and accept slight variations of how some aircraft appear on deck.

Re Aquilon 202 repaint it is not my model so can't comment though the FAA FAW 21 and FAW Mk53 which was the Royal Australian Navy version are availiable on Classic British Files check with Rob I would think he would be happy for a Aquilon 202 repaint.

Meanwhile to keep you all awake this version has not been released yet and is WIP as are the FAW 21 and FAW 53 this one has added eye candy inc Cat strop, deck tie downs and can be user set to have the missiles or not.

Hopefully I will not be shot for posting this

Cat Strop

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/RichRuscoe/Catstrop.jpg

Tie Downs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/RichRuscoe/Tiedowns.jpg

Tie Downs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/RichRuscoe/Tiedownsside.jpg

[Txmmy83]

I personally fly the Alphasim Payware Sea Venom but this freeware tempted me and looks worth a try and should be a nice alternative to the AS Payware
outside shots look awesome:applause:

[cvenom]

Greetings.
I found this forum via a google search for the Sea Venoms French cousin and was well pleased to find another Venom for FSX.
Apologies for being foward for a first time post but I would like to share some thoughts on how this sim compares to the real thing.
I have restored two Sea Venom FAW-53's (WZ-895 & WZ-937) to taxying condition and have been involved in the preservation of WZ-931 & WZ-897. I am presently looking after WZ-907.
I find this sim to be more accurate in the little details for a 53 than the alpha sim version. Very pleased with the cockpit as the 53 was very different inside to its British cousins. The alphasim version is for a 21/22 with a few things that arent in the real thing.
In the air it appears to fly like a real one, behaving as the pilots notes said it would. The only thing I'm not fussed with is the sound. Its more Vampire than Venom. The Ghost makes a god awful howl that sounds like the hounds of hell are behind your left ear. Maybe if I ever get the chance to give "907" a kick in the guts we can make a sound file from that.
Really really good effort on this one.
Cheers'
Steve

[calypsos]

Hi Steve, it is always nice to hear form somebody with 'real world' experience of aircraft modelled in MSFS.

If you are not already a member, perhaps you would be interested in my other little internet 'local'...

http://www.cbfsim.org/cbfsim/cbfsBB/

Technical expertise is always welcome there too.