Ms.760 Paris Jet?

[falcon409]

Anything new you can share Tim?:jump::jump::jump:oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, lol

[Matt Wynn]

*jumps back on the MS760 bus* if we have to huff and puff we will.... c'mon piglet we're on tenterhoooks here :icon_lol:

[peter12213]

LOL, I bet what he is thinking when he see's this is get lost or words to that effect!

[falcon409]

:bump::bump::bump: Just on the Off chance he missed it the first time, lol.

[Piglet]

Get lost!:applause:
But here's some WIP's:wavey:

[spotlope]

Nice! Are those beer taps on the lower panel just forward of the stick? Those French think of everything. :icon29:

[falcon409]

Oh man, she's gonna be a beauty. Thanks for doing that Tim, really appreciated.:ernae:

[Naismith]

Strength to strength. I am always amazed by Piglets a/c.

[Matt Wynn]

oh my..... *falls off chair in awe* Piglet she's a stunner!

[anatolpopov]

Nice job there piglet! :ernae:

[Railrunner130]

Awesome job so far Tim!!

:ernae:

[Bjoern]

Oh wow!

I think I'm gonna found a religious cult centered around Piglet. "Pigletism" or so. Having at least one of His planes in your virtual hangar is mandatory for entry. :d

[falcon409]

Oh wow!

I think I'm gonna found a religious cult centered around Piglet. "Pigletism" or so. Having at least one of His planes in your virtual hangar is mandatory for entry. :d
Yea, when this get's released I'll be AWOL from the forum for about a week while I fly it cross country, lol. Can't wait.:jump::jump:

[Matt Wynn]

cross country..... i'm going global with it :icon_lol: left 'tap' has a P in it is that one a nice port? and the other must be for beer.... *father Ted moment* "Curtains!" do they come down, never know who you might meet en-route... i almost put bump into then rethought about the phrasing

[djscoo]

Having at least one of His planes in your virtual hangar is mandatory for entry. :d
Do I get a "High Priest" designation for having all of them?:mixedsmi:

[Matt Wynn]

do i get 'Lord Chief High Arbiter' for having them all and paintkits to match? :icon_lol:

[Bjoern]

Do I get a "High Priest" designation for having all of them?:mixedsmi:

You're from now on a "pigletist High Priest". May you honor Him who brings us our freeware until your PC gives out...and beyond!



do i get 'Lord Chief High Arbiter' for having them all and paintkits to match? :icon_lol:

And you are a "Lord Chief High Arbiter of Pigletism". May you spread the word of His great deeds and keep His gifts to us humble creatures free from viruses and properly defragmented at all time!

Brethren, let us now conclude this first priesthood seminar with a triple "SQUEE"!

"SQUEE!"
"SQUEE!"
"SQUEE!"

:icon_lol:

[Matt Wynn]

"SQUEE!"
"SQUEE!"
"SQUEE!"

all hail to the great Piglet (are we allowed to drink alcohol in this religion?):icon_lol:

[Tako_Kichi]

I detest religions of any flavour but I may become a convert to this one!

All hail the Piglet!

:ernae:

[peter12213]

Amazing job !!

[jdhaenens]

Awww...man...this is getting out of hand. Pass me that barf bag, Piglet. Looks like you've picked up a gaggle of aging male groupies....what's that tell ya?:sheep: <----OK, the sheep was a little sarcastic.LOL

[Piglet]

all hail to the great Piglet (are we allowed to drink alcohol in this religion?):icon_lol:

Of course!!!:ernae::ernae: Otherwise, what would be the point!?
Of course you all will now have to build the city of Porkopolis in my honour! BUILD, BUILD, MINIONS!!!

[Bjoern]

all hail to the great Piglet (are we allowed to drink alcohol in this religion?):icon_lol:

Of course. What would be the point in spoiling all the fun stuff, like other religions do? :d



I detest religions of any flavour but I may become a convert to this one!

You're free to join and leave at will. That's why Pigletism is cool. :d



Of course you all will now have to build the city of Porkopolis in my honour! BUILD, BUILD, MINIONS!!!

Umm...I've got stuff to do...like...erm...converting...err...penguins in...umm...a zoo...yes, I have to convert penguins to Pigletism. See ya in a few thousand years, oh great master!
*Runs*

[Matt Wynn]

i'm working on a hangar for the Koensayr BLT-Y-A4 you did oh great master with an opening in the top and giving the girl near VTOL ability :icon_lol:

[Piglet]

i'm working on a hangar for the Koensayr BLT-Y-A4

That sounds cool! Is it gonna be like the Yavin temple? Then maybe a Echo Ice Base for the snowspeeder?:ernae:
Now back to building my city, minion!

[peter12213]

Smootie yes mate, might we work on that together son? ( I like to throw my self off things) haha!

[Matt Wynn]

aye if ya want to help man, i have nothing against it, once it's made and ready to go i'll use you as one of the Beta testers :kilroy: Oh great god piglet, is there any plans to update the old Star Wars bits? the Theed Engineering Corps N-1, Incom T-47 & Koensayr BLT-Y-A4 :icon_lol: shame you Never Did the famed Incom T-65 :kilroy:

[stansdds]

Strength to strength. I am always amazed by Piglets a/c.
Yes, he's definitely not churning out a new aircraft every few weeks, but what he does, he does very, very well.:applause:

[CodyValkyrie]

Tim, I really enjoy the fact you bring a lot of interesting planes I am not aware of to the forefront with your releases. I enjoy every plane you release, and it is a testament to your work that you have such a faithful following.

Cheers,
-Cody

[VFR Reviews]

Holy Cow :D

I love this forum. Where else would you find these people, or

SQUEE!!!
SQUEE!!!
SQUEE!!!


:ernae:

[Matt Wynn]

welcome to the alliance VFR :ernae:

[Tako_Kichi]

You're free to join and leave at will. That's why Pigletism is cool. :d
That's good to know....but I just had a nasty thought.....if this is a religion to give thanks to the great Ghod Piglet are we still allowed to eat bacon butties or BLT's? :isadizzy:

Giving praise for his gifts to his followers is one thing but giving up bacon butties......man that's a hard choice! :eek: :rolleyes:

[stansdds]

Yeah, but you still get to drink beer.:ernae:

[Matt Wynn]

i wonder if Piglet would allows us the privilege of eating his fallen brethren :icon_lol: what better way to honour them?

[spotlope]

I can think of no more Pigletist act than downing a rasher of bacon. That's taking religion to heart, for sure. Or at least to artery.

[jdhaenens]

Well, Christian communion is basically ritualized cannabalism (don't go there, my wife is a Methodist Pastor...), so we could have 3 side orders of bacon and a Dr. Pepper. What do you think?

[Tako_Kichi]

Scratch the Dr. Pepper for me but I could wash the rest down with a nice pint of traditional Brit real ale.

[Slug Flyer]

Well, Christian communion is basically ritualized cannabalism

Only if you believe in transubstantiation, which most Christian denominations actually don't.

[Piglet]

Bacon, ham, pork! All good eatin'. We let no good piggie go to waste.
SO EAT UP!!
P.S. Now you all made me want a good home cooked porkchop!:ernae:

[Bjoern]

This thread has gone off-topic by three to four (swine) snouts.


SQUEE!
GRUNT!
SQUEE!

:icon_lol:

[Tako_Kichi]

This thread has gone off-topic by three to four (swine) snouts.
All the best threads wander off topic from time to time. ;)

SQUEE!
SQUEE!
SQUEE!

[heywooood]

looking forward to the plane Piglet....you might have to do a Ned Beatty pilot figure though...for all your 'minions'...maybe a little banjo music file too *shudder*

[JT8D-9A]

Many thanks, Tim! Downloading now :running:
DL:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=info&FileID=15086

[Matt Wynn]

downloading now also :ernae:

[ryanbatc]

The exterior is nice. The interior is pretty good. Some of the gauges are fuzzy on my end, but it could be something with my system. Where is BananaBob? It could use some exterior paints :icon_lol: Oh, if could ask: Any one know a way to remove the imperfections on the wind screen? It looks like little bugs all over the place. Also I just noticed I don't have NAV1 and COM1 radios working.... Like the digits don't show up, am I missing something?




http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/ms760.jpg

[falcon409]

Man, that Piglet is a sneaky one, lol. Not any fanfare or anything, just all of a sudden it's here. . . .Muchas Gracias Tim.:ernae:

[ryanbatc]

Yes! We need a sticky!!!!

also, anyone having issues not seeing the NAV1/COM1 radio digits?

[Henry]

yes indeed it does need a sticky
i just found it in the download section
Thanks
H:applause:

[Tako_Kichi]

Nice one Tim! :applause:

Now the inevitable question.................paintkit????????? :kilroy:

[Tako_Kichi]

also, anyone having issues not seeing the NAV1/COM1 radio digits?
The digits appear fine in my install but I am seeing some fuzzy gauges. Off to fix those now.

[falcon409]

Yes! We need a sticky!!!!
also, anyone having issues not seeing the NAV1/COM1 radio digits?
I did til I found the "Battery/Avionics" switches, lol. All seems fine now. I did notice that the attitude Indicator showed about a 5 degree nose up attitude when I was actually in a 1000fpm decent. Watching the VSI and AI at the same time, they didn't jive with what the airplane was doing. The VSI was correct, but the AI was showing opposite.

[falcon409]

A few shots!

[ryanbatc]

I did til I found the "Battery/Avionics" switches, lol. All seems fine now.


Oops, a classic case of PEBKAC and my part :running:

[ryanbatc]

The digits appear fine in my install but I am seeing some fuzzy gauges. Off to fix those now.

Let me know what you do - I have some similar issues

[Matt Wynn]

do a search for piglets stuff there is a paintkit...

[falcon409]

. . . . Any one know a way to remove the imperfections on the wind screen? It looks like little bugs all over the place.
Yea, that's a Piglet trademark, lol. There probably is a way to take those off, but Tim will probably have to answer that one.

[CG_1976]

I'll have to pick up mine later and ferry it to YZF. Piglet I'll pick mine up at ViVa HQ CYYJ. Thank You and agaign a wonderful model and VC:medals::icon29:.

[jankees]

Whoopeee!
What a wonderful gift, Tim! Thank you very much!
Outstanding, I love that naval paint job!

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1997.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2002.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2006.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2009.jpg

[Henry]

Whoopeee!
What a wonderful gift, Tim! Thank you very much!
Outstanding, I love that naval paint job!

yup me too
normally not a jet fly'er
but a piglet jet, just have too:medals:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/henrybaker/p1-1.jpg

thanks
H

[Bjoern]

Thanks, oh great master Tim! :ernae:


Any recommendations for a soundset?


SQUEE!
SQUEE!
SQUEE!

[Tako_Kichi]

If anyone is interested I added A2A lights to the Paris Jet. Here are my configs:
[lights]

//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing


light.0 =1, -17.990000, 0.000000, 4.930000, fx_shockwave_beaconh //fx_beacon
light.1 =1, 1.150000, 0.000000, -1.750000, fx_shockwave_beaconb_nl //fx_beacon
light.2 =3, -18.820000, 0.000000, 0.452000, fx_shockwave_navwhi //fx_navwhi
light.3 =3, 3.300000, -15.820000, 0.938000, fx_shockwave_navred //fx_navred
light.4 =3, 3.300000, 15.820000, 0.938000, fx_shockwave_navgre //fx_navgre
light.5 =5, 13.55, 0.00, -0.1250, fx_shockwave_landing_light_narrow_old
I also felt that those 50's jet engines would be smoky old things so I added some smoke . If you want smoke too add the following after the [lights] section above:
[smokesystem]
smoke.0 = -10.00, -1.30, -0.60, fx_smoke_f6
smoke.1 = -10.00, 1.30, -0.60, fx_smoke_f6
NOTE: This calls the smoke effect used on DG's freeware Hunter. If you do not have that excellent aircraft then you will have to substitute 'fx_smoke_f6' with a suitable effect file that you do have.

The smoke is turned on/off with the 'I' key as per normal operation.

[Tako_Kichi]

Let me know what you do - I have some similar issues
Well I had a quick play but the other gauges I have are not much better so I left it as is.

[Roger]

Oooh I missed this...off to download now! Thanks Tim:ernae:

[falcon409]

Well I had a quick play but the other gauges I have are not much better so I left it as is.
Just wondering if you saw any problem with the attitude gauge? Seems to be showing a slight nose up attitude when in a 1000fpm decent.

[BananaBob]

A true artist who keeps getting better, beautiful job Tim, gotta try a photoreal on this baby, you always have a great texture layout! :applause::applause::applause:

[JayKae]

For sounds I reckon either the sound of the Magister availabe here:

http://www.restauravia.com/page31.html

Awesome work Piglet!

[ryanbatc]

gotta try a photoreal on this baby :applause::applause::applause:

Please do! :wiggle:

[Roger]

:engel016:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/parisjet.jpg

[ryanbatc]

I'm still not seeing NAV1/COM1 - the radio switch is on, and the master battery is on. What am I missing?

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/nav1.jpg

[falcon409]

I'm still not seeing NAV1/COM1 - the radio switch is on, and the master battery is on. What am I missing?
Yep, my apologies, I took a quick look once the battery was on and just assumed both sets were up. In that case. . .no, you aren't the only one, lol.

[falcon409]

For sounds I reckon either the sound of the Magister available here:. . . . . . .Awesome work Piglet!
Well, that sounded like a good idea, but that airplanes sounds are aliased to the Lear.

[Ferry_vO]

For sounds I reckon either the sound of the Magister availabe here:

http://www.restauravia.com/page31.html


Had the same thought earlier but that one doesn't have a soundset; it's aliased to the default Lear!

For a realistic soundset, get Mikko Maliniemi's old Fs2002 Fouga from Avsim and use the sounds included (Made by Mike Hambly) Search for Foufinn1.zip.

Warning: The real Fougas/Paris uses two Marboré engines which produce a high pitched whine which is loud and annoying. Mike captured this very well!

BTW: Great aircraft Tim! :applause:

[falcon409]

Ok, here's what I have after going into FSPanel Studio and checking the VC gauges. . .that one was missing. So I pointed it to the Bendix Comm/Nav Radio correctly and got what you see here. I've attached the panel.cfg file. Try that and see if it works.

[Tako_Kichi]

Originally Posted by ryanbatc http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/soh/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?p=266183#post266183)
I'm still not seeing NAV1/COM1 - the radio switch is on, and the master battery is on. What am I missing?Yep, my apologies, I took a quick look once the battery was on and just assumed both sets were up. In that case. . .no, you aren't the only one, lol.
Ooops I guess I was wrong too as I am only seeing NAV2/COM2 active! :isadizzy:

Strangely the pop-up radios (Shift+1) are showing both active.

[falcon409]

Ok,
After looking at the original and the current one I did, the problem was a typo in the original:
gauge00=Bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 6,2,246,47
gauge01=Bendix_king_dark!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 274,6,213,78

lol, so you can fix it easily by just correcting that typo

[falcon409]

. . . .For a realistic soundset, get Mikko Maliniemi's old Fs2002 Fouga from Avsim and use the sounds included (Made by Mike Hambly) Search for Foufinn1.zip.

Warning: The real Fougas/Paris uses two Marboré engines which produce a high pitched whine which is loud and annoying. Mike captured this very well!

Yep, must be the same one being used with the freeware Venom that was posted here a few weeks ago because that's the sound I opted for and it is indeed an annoying high pitched sound. . .very much like the Tweets!

[Tako_Kichi]

Your file fixed the radios for me Falcon. I am not seeing your nose up attitude in descent though.

[kilo delta]

Warning: The real Fougas/Paris uses two Marboré engines which produce a high pitched whine which is loud and annoying.

I used to love the sound of them.....I saw the Irish Air Corps "Silver Swallows" team (equipped with Fougas) on numerous occasions. I was always impressed at their polished displays considering the lack of raw power in their mounts....definitely a case of excellent energy management.:)


Another thumbs up from me, Tim :ernae:

[sparouty]

Hi everybody,
What can I say more? Ferry_vO is right, for the Restauravia's Fouga and Zephyr, it's highly recommended to use the Mikko Maliniemi's soundset.
So it should be the same for the "Paris".
To my own point of view, Mister Piglet made (once again) a very good work!! :medals:
And, once again, I love his paintjob: this bare metal effect/rendering is great!

Thank you Tim for this brillant "aeronavale" release, I appreciate!!:ernae:

Regards,
Sylvain

[falcon409]

Your file fixed the radios for me Falcon. I am not seeing your nose up attitude in descent though.
Ok, it may have been the lack of sleep or the grilled cheese sandwich. . . .or both. . .lol. That's minor anyway, I'm usually watching the VSI more. Glad the file worked. If I had looked at the cfg file sooner I could have just said. . ."change "dark" to "radio" and been done with it, lol.

[txnetcop]

Hey Bob, how about this for a paint job! Anyone wanna lend a feller some money for a nice toy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-6gnQKr7rI
Ted

Listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PKkPOGXQbw&feature=related
Ted

[stansdds]

This looks fun. And yes, some civilian paints would be nice.:ernae:

[Flyboy208]

Thank you Piglet for another work of art. Gonna go fire her up right now!

Cheers! Mike :ernae:

[doublecool]

Piglet, she's a Wonder...:jump: man she looks good a dusk flyin the coast line

:applause::applause::applause: Thank very much Sir

[BananaBob]

:engel016:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/parisjet.jpg

Beauty of a shot Roger! :ernae:

[Tako_Kichi]

This looks fun. And yes, some civilian paints would be nice.:ernae:
I wouldn't mind having a go at N87NY if nobody else is doing it.

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N87NY.html

[falcon409]

I wouldn't mind having a go at N87NY if nobody else is doing it.
Looks like a winner!!
There are at least two that I did for Ito's version that I'd like to do for this one, but I'm very slow when it comes to FSX type repaints, so they may be done before I ever get part of one done, lol.

[Flyboy208]

I think I am in love with an old French Lady !!!:jump:

Thanks again Piglet! Mike :applause:

[Flyboy208]

More ...

[stansdds]

Installed it and took it for a spin. Nice!!!! Definitely another masterpiece from Piglet. :applause:

[Lewis-A2A]

Looks wonderful matey, dare I say your best work to date! :ernae:

[txnetcop]

Thanks a million, Tim she really is a wonder to behold!
Ted

[ryanbatc]

This has become my favorite acft for VATSIM. Here's why:

1) It's fast
2) It's light and nimble
3) I have all the gauges I need to perform
4) Nice VC
5) FPS friendly - bout as good as default models.... so it replaces the Citation Mustang hehe

[falcon409]

Yep, I flew the Ito version all the time in FS9 and when Tim let it out that he was doing his own version for FSX. . .OH YEA BABY, lol. This is so terrific and so much fun to fly. I just completed an IFR Flight from NAS Ft Worth to Portland Int'. That engine noise is annoying, lol, lol.

[Piglet]

Glad you all like Paris!
Sometimes I like to sneak up a drop a plane on ya all!
Look forward to the repaints, all SOH'ers are pre-approved:ernae:
I hear of gauges being fuzzy, or missing. Never had those bugs pop up on my system, maybe something in upload?
Falcon 409
Good eye on that panel.cfg typo. That was a bit of debris from some gauge lighting experiement gone horribly awry...

[JayKae]

Well, that sounded like a good idea, but that airplanes sounds are aliased to the Lear.


That is weird, my Magister has no aliasing to anything, I checked this morning, but I will check again... *scratches his head* maybe at some point I replaced the Magisters sounds with a custom one and I have just forgotten about it. Sorry to lead you astray if I did :(

[falcon409]

. . . . .Falcon 409
Good eye on that panel.cfg typo. That was a bit of debris from some gauge lighting experiement gone horribly awry...
lol, No Problem Tim, glad I could help. Beautiful job on the Paris Jet. . .very much appreciated.

[falcon409]

That is weird, my Magister has no aliasing to anything, I checked this morning, but I will check again... *scratches his head* maybe at some point I replaced the Magisters sounds with a custom one and I have just forgotten about it. Sorry to lead you astray if I did :(
Not at all JayKae, I had already loaded the sounds from the freeware Venom which, as it turns out, is exactly what it needed. I went to check on the Magister hoping it was a better sound set is all and discovered when I unzipped it that it was aliased to the Lear. No problem at all.

[anatolpopov]

Better sound here (http://files.fsnordic.net/?download=709).

It is link for FS2002 Fouga Magister Package by Mikko Maliniemi and others. It doesn't work in FSX, but sounds are like real.

[scotsman]

Hi Folks,

Tim - thank you first for that nice trip to Paris. Another great "Piglet-Art".
There is a free download for a RNZAF Strikemaster somewhere (maybe Avsim?). That plane also had that very type of TUROBOMECA jet engine - or at least a licenced version - as I learned from Wikipedia.

Mike

[Wombat_VC]

Try this for sound:

Hawker Hunter RR-Avon " the real deal "

http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=86617

[Dain Arns]

Hi Folks,

Tim - thank you first for that nice trip to Paris. Another great "Piglet-Art".
There is a free download for a RNZAF Strikemaster somewhere (maybe Avsim?). That plane also had that very type of TUROBOMECA jet engine - or at least a licenced version - as I learned from Wikipedia.

Mike


Or, what about Rick Piper's BAC Jet Provost T5 & Strikemaster v2.0 instead? Aaron Swindle did the sound for it. FS2004, the early days...

Rick's download site is here:

http://www.btinternet.com/~rick.piper/page_16.htm (http://www.btinternet.com/%7Erick.piper/page_16.htm)

[JayKae]

Ok, I checked at one point I actually downloaded that package by Mikko and had just forgotten that I had put that in there... again terribly sorry to anyone who wasted their bandwidth on downloading the Magister.

[simkid22]

And so it begins...

[jimjones]

Beautifully done, Tim, as usual. Many thanks.

[alain0568]

-Thank you Piglet!:applause: :applause: :applause:






Alain

-

[Ferry_vO]

Or, what about Rick Piper's BAC Jet Provost T5 & Strikemaster v2.0 instead? Aaron Swindle did the sound for it. FS2004, the early days...

Rick's download site is here:

http://www.btinternet.com/~rick.piper/page_16.htm

AFAIK the Jet Provost/Strikemaster uses the RR Viper engine, a different design than the Turbomeca Marboré used in the Magister and Paris.
From my own experience with Magisters and Strikemasters they sound quite different, and Mike Hambly's soundpack included with Mikko Maliniemi's Fs2002 Fouga is the best option for Tim's Paris.

[Tweek]

Hi Folks,

Tim - thank you first for that nice trip to Paris. Another great "Piglet-Art".
There is a free download for a RNZAF Strikemaster somewhere (maybe Avsim?). That plane also had that very type of TUROBOMECA jet engine - or at least a licenced version - as I learned from Wikipedia.

Mike

I've heard a fair few JP's taxying around in my time at Cosford, and I don't seem to recall them being anywhere near as high pitched at low RPMs. I do think your best bet is to go with the Magister sounds, seeing as it actually uses the same engine.

[Railrunner130]

Many thanks Tim! Once again, you have worked miracles!

:ernae:

[falcon409]

. . . . .From my own experience with Magisters and Strikemasters they sound quite different, and Mike Hambly's soundpack included with Mikko Maliniemi's Fs2002 Fouga is the best option for Tim's Paris.
It looks like this same sound set has made the rounds for quite a while now because I pulled the sound set from the "Sea Venom" I recently downloaded by Robert Richardson to use in the Paris and that sound set is attributed to Mike Hambly.

[noddy]

What a little cracker.

13023

13024

[Dain Arns]

AFAIK the Jet Provost/Strikemaster uses the RR Viper engine, a different design than the Turbomeca Marboré used in the Magister and Paris.
From my own experience with Magisters and Strikemasters they sound quite different, and Mike Hambly's soundpack included with Mikko Maliniemi's Fs2002 Fouga is the best option for Tim's Paris.

Ah, okay. :applause:

[txnetcop]

Yep when I do get a few minutes I can't quit playing with it. This and the Cub by A2A have taken all my flying time-SWEEEEEEEEEEET! And wait until you guys see Flight Replica's Super Cub-oh man it's raining cubs! I love it-BTW it ain't slow either:ernae:
Ted

[Tako_Kichi]

I just uploaded the following repaint so it should be available within the next 24 hours once the Admins clear it.

http://media7.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091010/b_141247.jpg
http://media6.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091010/b_141543.jpg

Seeing as this is a civilian repaint I also reworked the interior to have brown leather seats and changed the pilots uniforms to a civvy type of white shirt and blue trousers/pants. I also gave them bright yellow life jackets in case they do any over-water flights. ;)

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091010/b_141746.jpg

Enjoy!

:ernae:

[Stan V.]

Tim,

FYI, I think there is yet a missing gauge in your Fix pack, namely the "ahi" gauge. It was there in the original cab file but not in the HOTFIX version downloaded here from SOH.

[Bjoern]

For a realistic soundset, get Mikko Maliniemi's old Fs2002 Fouga from Avsim and use the sounds included (Made by Mike Hambly) Search for Foufinn1.zip.

Thanks for that, Ferry.

[CG_1976]

Make a excellent Canada Snowbird fictional replacement considering to my knowledge there is no native snowbird close to the actual AC.

[Flyboy208]

Cool civvie livery here ...

Mike :wiggle:

[Tako_Kichi]

Make a excellent Canada Snowbird fictional replacement considering to my knowledge there is no native snowbird close to the actual AC.
Hmmm...interesting thought but not close enough to be convincing I don't think. Rick Piper's Jet Provost would be a better candidate and that works just great in FSX.

[Piglet]

FYI, I think there is yet a missing gauge in your Fix pack, namely the "ahi" gauge. It was there in the original cab file but not in the HOTFIX version downloaded here from SOH.

Look for "Attitude_Indicator" instead.
Does your panel have a missing gauge?

[peter12213]

AMAZING JOB TIM!!

Fully enjoying this mate!
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7338/20091011533203.png

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2339/200910114593250.png

Excellent job!

[Vratan]

NICE addon and plane! Anyone knows if it is possible to use Paris Jet on unpaved runways? I found no photos from real.

[anatolpopov]

So Piglet, what is your next project? And thanks for this one!

[bmd]

Look for "Attitude_Indicator" instead.
Does your panel have a missing gauge?

Hello,

Frist, thank you very much for this wondderful aircraaft model.

Un the panel.cfg file of the original pakage, the attitude gauge is named "ahi".

[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
window_size_ratio=1.000
visible=0
window_size= 0.280, 0.983
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$ms760_01
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=MS-760!airspeed, 105,6,100,100
gauge01=MS-760!Altimeter, 205,6,100,100
gauge02=MS-760!ahi, 405,6,100,100
....

In the fix_kit package an updated panel.cfg file is missing. In order to see the attitude gauge, you shoulld use the following [Vcockpit01] secction in the panel.cfg file

[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
window_size_ratio=1.000
visible=0
window_size= 0.280, 0.983
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$ms760_01
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=MS-760!airspeed, 105,6,100,100
gauge01=MS-760!Altimeter, 205,6,100,100
gauge02=MS-760!Attitude Indicator, 405,6,100,100
gauge03=MS-760!G_Meter, 410,110,100,100
gauge04=MS-760!clock, 301,211,100,100
gauge05=MS-760!compass, 5,6,100,100
gauge06=MS-760!Turn Coordinator, 98,211,100,100
gauge07=MS-760!Vertical Speed Indicator, 201,211,100,100
gauge08=MS-760!Trim_Flap, 3,313,100,100
gauge09=MS-760!radar_alt, 203,313,100,100
gauge10=MS-760!oat, 303,313,100,100
gauge11=MS-760!RPM, 10,110,100,100
gauge12=MS-760!fuel_flow, 310,110,100,100
gauge13=MS-760!fuel_gauge, 403,214,100,100
gauge14=MS-760!EGT, 110, 110 ,100,100
gauge15=MS-760!Oil_Pressure, 210,110,100,100
gauge16=MS-760!Volt_Amps, 403,313,100,100
gauge17=SimIcons1024!ATC Icon, 391,423,26,26
gauge18=SimIcons1024!GPS Icon, 418,423,26,26
gauge19=SimIcons1024!Map Icon, 444,423,26,26
gauge20=MS-760!adf, 98,366,100,100
gauge21=MS-760!hsi, 305,6,100,94


Have a good day

Benoit

[doublecool]

That did the trick Thank you :ernae:

[Stan V.]

Look for "Attitude_Indicator" instead.
Does your panel have a missing gauge?

Yes there are two missing (blank) gauges in my VC - one in front of the pilot and one in front of the co-pilot) and one missing just to the left of center in the pop-up panel.

I can fix it myself, however. I need only to rename the original cab file and modify the panel.cfg references to the ahi gauge accordingly and then store both the original cab file and the HOTFIX cab file in my gauges directory.

[doublecool]

Piglet, your saab J 29 :applause:was my favorite of yours jet before this Beauty.
I know this may be asking for much but for those of us whom like the original interior and gauges is there an easy fix for the glass on the G meter? I tried the new interior model file with old gauges and the Attitude Indicator is off.

Piglet, I Thank you again for this wonderful plane :applause:

[Bjoern]

Make a excellent Canada Snowbird fictional replacement considering to my knowledge there is no native snowbird close to the actual AC.

There was a Tutor for FS9 out there, I think on Avsim. It might work in FSX...

[falcon409]

I just uploaded the following repaint so it should be available within the next 24 hours once the Admins clear it.
Seeing as this is a civilian repaint I also reworked the interior to have brown leather seats and changed the pilots uniforms to a civvy type of white shirt and blue trousers/pants. I also gave them bright yellow life jackets in case they do any over-water flights. ;)
Enjoy!
Beautiful job Larry:ernae:

[falcon409]

I have not seen any mention of this as a WIP, so if no one else is doing it, I'd like to take a shot at it.

[Piglet]

Interesting nose and canopy mods.
Doublecool,
The old attitude indicator was the one that was off, so I replaced it with one that I could get aligned. Also redid how I tex'd the polys. Maybe simply try inserting a different gauge? Did that make any sense?

NICE addon and plane! Anyone knows if it is possible to use Paris Jet on unpaved runways? I found no photos from real.

In FSX one can do anything!
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[falcon409]

WIP, taking a bit to convert what I knew (for FS9) to what I need to know for FSX repaints. It's coming along, just takes a bit longer so I don't miss a step. Hopefully this will be ready tomorrow for upload.

[neptuneman]

Hello everybody.
Congratulations for this amazing bird! I love it.
For those who are interested by replacing the attitude indicator. I changed the default one by FSKBT L188 electra's one. You can see the result on the attached screenshots. In my opinion it is more realistic.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/neptuneman/MS760%20Paris/MS760_8.jpg


As mentionned by falcon409 in a previous page


Ok,
After looking at the original and the current one I did, the problem was a typo in the original:
gauge00=Bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 6,2,246,47
gauge01=Bendix_king_dark!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 274,6,213,78

lol, so you can fix it easily by just correcting that typo
you can replace blackI noticed a problem with the radio altimeter. I found the problem.
The xml is searching for the needle! To fix it you can download the F5A_PACK by Mr Piglet for fs9

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?lloc=downloads&loc=downloads&FileType=fs2k4&page=downloads&Category=aircraft&ammm=100&pap=2#download (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/../index.php?lloc=downloads&loc=downloads&FileType=fs2k4&page=downloads&Category=aircraft&ammm=100&pap=2#download)

extract the file f5_asi_ndl.bmp from the f5a.cab
insert it in the MS-760.CAB

Now you can low pass with the Paris!
(you can view the result on the above screen shot)

Happy flying with this great aircraft and thanks for this forum, i read it each time with the same pleasure.

Some thank you screenshots for you guys.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/neptuneman/MS760%20Paris/MS760_5.jpg


http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/neptuneman/MS760%20Paris/MS760_18.jpg


http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/neptuneman/MS760%20Paris/MS760_19.jpg


http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/neptuneman/MS760%20Paris/MS760_25.jpg


http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/neptuneman/MS760%20Paris/MS760_27.jpg

[sorry for by bad english, i'm french! like the MS 760 so I'm proud to be french! ]:wavey:

[txnetcop]

Neptuneman, your English beats the heck outta my French, so no apologies are needed. Thank you for your info on the gauge switch-out. I will doing that tonight. Piglet sure hit the mark with this aircraft!
Ted

[ryanbatc]

Where can I download the FSKBT Electra?

[falcon409]

I think I'll stick to flying in FSX and forget about repaints, lol. If someone else had an idea to do the "Jetset" repaint, be my guest.

[astrojet]

Thanks, Tim!

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/314clipper/Paris_960.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/314clipper/Paris_Oshkosh_960.jpg

[neptuneman]

Hello ryanbatc,

you can download the electra
at simviation
http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?type=item&ID=61&page=25
or at flightsim
http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=L-188_ELECTRA_X.ZIP
Extract from L_L188.CAB the files with a name beginning by Attitude (12 files, 11 .BMP and 1 XML).
Take these files and put them into MS-760.CAB.
Now you have to change the lines in your panel.cfg

gauge00=MS-760!ahi, 380,828,186,177

and

gauge02=MS-760!ahi, 405,6,100,100

respectively
into
gauge00=MS-760!Attitude Indicator, 380,828,186,177
and
gauge02=MS-760!Attitude Indicator, 405,6,100,100

In fact you simply replace ahi by Attitude Indicator nothing more to change.

I think it's clear

[Tako_Kichi]

I think I'll stick to flying in FSX and forget about repaints, lol. If someone else had an idea to do the "Jetset" repaint, be my guest.
What's the problem Ed? You looked like you were doing OK and just needed to finish the tanks and canopy (you won't be able to paint the canopy exactly like the real thing though due to the glass transparency and the fact the blinds are part of the model).

[falcon409]

For anyone who hasn't already done this, I added a Radio Stack popup. Here's what you need to make it work:
Add this line under the [Windows Titles] section
Window02=Radio_Stack

Add this section after the [Window01] Section
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=340,660
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=30
window_size= 0.500, 0.500
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000
gauge00=Bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 5,61,332,117
gauge01=Bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 5,177,332,119
gauge02=Bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 7,3,329,59
gauge03=Bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 5,294,332,97
gauge04=Bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 5,391,332,80
gauge05=Bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 5,470,332,77
gauge06=Bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 5,547,332,110

I also added a simicon for the avionics popup but it doesn't show, so you'll just need to use the "shift+3" keystroke to bring that up. It may or may not need to be resized but I figure everyone is pretty much aware of how to do that.

[falcon409]

What's the problem Ed? You looked like you were doing OK and just needed to finish the tanks and canopy (you won't be able to paint the canopy exactly like the real thing though due to the glass transparency and the fact the blinds are part of the model).
The gold stripes did me in. Trying to get them to look correct, at the right thickness and taper correctly. . .I just got fed up messing with it. It took me a bunch of tries even when I did that repaint for Ito's Paris jet. . . .too much of a hassle and there are too many talented FSX artists out there that can produce these repaints much faster and better quality than anything I can do.

[Tako_Kichi]

The gold stripes did me in. Trying to get them to look correct, at the right thickness and taper correctly. . .I just got fed up messing with it. It took me a bunch of tries even when I did that repaint for Ito's Paris jet. . . .too much of a hassle and there are too many talented FSX artists out there that can produce these repaints much faster and better quality than anything I can do.
Hmmmm....OK...a convincing gold is always a difficult thing to get in a paint program. I will have to revist Chris B's excellent tutorial he put up on here and maybe give it a go myself.

[falcon409]

Hmmmm....OK...a convincing gold is always a difficult thing to get in a paint program. I will have to revist Chris B's excellent tutorial he put up on here and maybe give it a go myself.
No, it wasn't the color, I had that easily, it was just getting the flow of it to look right from the thin taper at the nose then maintaining an even thickness over the wing root and than tapering again up to the vertical stab. It just wasn't working.

[Tako_Kichi]

No, it wasn't the color, I had that easily, it was just getting the flow of it to look right from the thin taper at the nose then maintaining an even thickness over the wing root and than tapering again up to the vertical stab. It just wasn't working.
Ahhh OK...yes they can be a bit tricky. The trick to that is to use vector graphics and especially bezier curves. I would be lost without my 'pen' tool in PS.

It would appear that scheme has had two different registrations too. I just found this shot of N760JS with the same 'Jet Set' scheme but in this shot the gold lining looks more silver. There aren't many decent shots of that scheme around on the net unfortunately, I have only found about six in my extensive searches.

If you want that scheme I can give it a go for you if you like.

[falcon409]

Ahhh OK...yes they can be a bit tricky. The trick to that is to use vector graphics and especially bezier curves. I would be lost without my 'pen' tool in PS.
Yea, you'd think after spending 30 years as a graphic artist, this little piddly stuff wouldn't be a big deal. Guess I don't have the patience I used to have. I use PSP 8 and the bezier curve is what I was working with, I just couldn't get it to look the way I wanted.

[Tako_Kichi]

I have a short list of five civvy paints now...I guess I am going to be busy painting Paris Jets for a while. :icon_lol:

[ryanbatc]

Hello ryanbatc,

you can download the electra
at simviation
http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?type=item&ID=61&page=25
or at flightsim
http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=L-188_ELECTRA_X.ZIP
Extract from L_L188.CAB the files with a name beginning by Attitude (12 files, 11 .BMP and 1 XML).
Take these files and put them into MS-760.CAB.
Now you have to change the lines in your panel.cfg

gauge00=MS-760!ahi, 380,828,186,177

and

gauge02=MS-760!ahi, 405,6,100,100

respectively
into
gauge00=MS-760!Attitude Indicator, 380,828,186,177
and
gauge02=MS-760!Attitude Indicator, 405,6,100,100

In fact you simply replace ahi by Attitude Indicator nothing more to change.

I think it's clear

Thanks but I'm having trouble copying that bmp file into the .cab file. I use winzip and I cannot get it in there. Do you have to extract the entire cab file then re complile it with the new file?

[Tako_Kichi]

I just uploaded the following repaint so it should be available within the next 24 hours once the Admins clear it.

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091012/b_220934.jpg

Enjoy!

:ernae:

[GypsyBaron]

Thanks but I'm having trouble copying that bmp file into the .cab file. I use winzip and I cannot get it in there. Do you have to extract the entire cab file then re complile it with the new file?


To add to a cab file you do need to 'de-cab' it first, then
're-cab' it after you make changes.

Alternativey, you can just leave the de-cab'ed files in a
folder of the same name and place that in the panel folder.

FSX searches for gauges in the folder before it resorts
to looking in cab files.

Paul

[ryanbatc]

To add to a cab file you do need to 'de-cab' it first, then
're-cab' it after you make changes.

Alternativey, you can just leave the de-cab'ed files in a
folder of the same name and place that in the panel folder.

FSX searches for gauges in the folder before it resorts
to looking in cab files.

Paul

Yeah the de-cabbing part got me confused. How do you do that?

[Flyboy208]

I just uploaded the following repaint so it should be available within the next 24 hours once the Admins clear it.

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091012/b_220934.jpg

Enjoy!

:ernae:

Looking good Larry! Mike :applause:

[falcon409]

I just uploaded the following repaint so it should be available within the next 24 hours once the Admins clear it.
Enjoy!
Yep, great job. That's one of the two that I did for Ito's. Nice work.:applause:

[DennyA]

Just a big thanks for this one, Tim. Your panel looks fantastic. Really fun to fly!

[Dexdoggy]

I just woke up at my desk and realised this was here...:icon_lol:
Downloading now, will give her a whirl tonight!
Thankyou Tim! Thankyou Tim! Thankyou Tim!

[doublecool]

Interesting nose and canopy mods.
Doublecool,
The old attitude indicator was the one that was off, so I replaced it with one that I could get aligned. Also redid how I tex'd the polys. Maybe simply try inserting a different gauge? Did that make any sense?

In FSX one can do anything!
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Thanks for the reply Piglet, it looks like some good folks have been working on the a new attitude indicator :kilroy:

Many Thanks

[GypsyBaron]

Yeah the de-cabbing part got me confused. How do you do that?

I use PKZip or PowerArchiver 2000. Any program that extracts .zip files should
do the trick.

To 're-cab', there is a program in the FSX SDK under
"SimObject Creation", "CabDir SDK".

Paul

[Tako_Kichi]

Yea, you'd think after spending 30 years as a graphic artist, this little piddly stuff wouldn't be a big deal. Guess I don't have the patience I used to have. I use PSP 8 and the bezier curve is what I was working with, I just couldn't get it to look the way I wanted.
How does this look Ed?

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091013/b_233930.jpg

I played with the gold stripe in the spec layer so it changes colour as the sun hits it now and I am also totally reworking the interior as I felt such a classy outside needed an inside to match. ;)

It will be a day or so before it's ready to upload, lots of copying and pasting stuff to do so I can add layers under the knobs, switches and gauges. :isadizzy:

[Slug Flyer]

Tail N number looks a little misaligned. Nice otherwise!

[falcon409]

How does this look Ed?
I played with the gold stripe in the spec layer so it changes colour as the sun hits it now and I am also totally reworking the interior as I felt such a classy outside needed an inside to match. ;)

It will be a day or so before it's ready to upload, lots of copying and pasting stuff to do so I can add layers under the knobs, switches and gauges.
Yep, really well done Larry. I agree on the interior. . .it does need some updating to match the fancy exterior. Thanks for doing these two they are great additions to this beautiful airplane.

[Tako_Kichi]

Tail N number looks a little misaligned. Nice otherwise!
LOL :icon_lol:

It's straight on the aircraft, trust me. ;)

That shot is showing the model with full left rudder applied.

[Slug Flyer]

LOL :icon_lol:

It's straight on the aircraft, trust me. ;)

That shot is showing the model with full left rudder applied.

Ah, alright, my bad, I'll take your word for it.

[ryanbatc]

I use PKZip or PowerArchiver 2000. Any program that extracts .zip files should
do the trick.

To 're-cab', there is a program in the FSX SDK under
"SimObject Creation", "CabDir SDK".

Paul

Ok I read that page under the SDK but could you spell it out for me? I'm having issues getting the cab compress function to work. I rarely use CMD prompt and I don't understand the syntax:


cabdir [switches] source_dir [dest_cab]

For example, I have a folder on my desktop labeled "new cab files" - this contains all the new files AND piglet's original gauge files (of course newer files overwrote the older ones)

So I run the cmd prompt, and type cabdir [/compress] c:\users\ryanbatc\desktop\new cab files\*.*

And the message comes up: "Must specify a wild card, directory, or cab file with destination

What does that mean?

[jankees]

I just uploaded the following repaint so it should be available within the next 24 hours once the Admins clear it.


VERY nice!

[peter12213]

[QUOTE=Tako_Kichi;269096]How does this look?

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091013/b_233930.jpg

This is the repaint I've been waiting for, very much looking forwards to this!

[rdyoung]

syntax:


cabdir [switches] source_dir [dest_cab]

So I run the cmd prompt, and type cabdir [/compress] c:\users\ryanbatc\desktop\new cab files\*.*

And the message comes up: "Must specify a wild card, directory, or cab file with destination

What does that mean?

Here is some info I found awhile ago somewhere:

Simple syntax e.g.: cabdir c:\empty xxx.cab
or, even simpler, put all XML gauges in a folder and drop the folder onto cabdir.exe
to create the .CAB file.
*** Note: Appears to require more than one file in the folder or CABDIR crashes ***

Looks llike you went too far in specifying the \*.* -- maybe stop at the folder name. Dragging and dropping is far more efficient once you get the idea of how you can drag a folder from one explorer window and drop it onto the cabdir.exe filename being displayed in another explorer window. This creates a .CAB file with the name of the folder in the same location as the original folder that had all the .XML files in it.

Rick

[ryanbatc]

Alrighty, forget the old school MS dos prompt way...

I googled for cabdir and found this really basic cab maker with a simple GUI.

Link (in case anyone wants one)
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/CabPack-Download-69931.html

But now after all this work (lol) I've found my attitude indicator downloaded from the L-188 simviation link provided DOES NOT look the same as the one in your picture. I really like that one, but not the one that now resides on my panel

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/newatt.jpg

At least my radio alt works now! woohoo!

[GypsyBaron]

Ok I read that page under the SDK but could you spell it out for me? I'm having issues getting the cab compress function to work. I rarely use CMD prompt and I don't understand the syntax:




Forget the command prompt.

Just drag and drop the folder onto the cabdir.exe file and
it will automatically create the CAB of the same name as the folder.

Paul

[Tako_Kichi]

[QUOTE=Tako_Kichi;269096]How does this look?

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091013/b_233930.jpg

This is the repaint I've been waiting for, very much looking forwards to this!
You wait is almost over. :icon_lol:

I just uploaded the files and here are a few screenies to show it off.

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091014/b_201317.jpg

If you look closely you can see how the sunlight glints off the gold stripe.

Of course such a classy exterior needed a classy interior too so I fitted her out with cream leather seats, Berber carpeting, cream paintwork and an oak burr fascia panel.

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091014/b_201749.jpg
http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091014/b_201539.jpg

It took longer to rework the interior than it did to do the outside paint job but I think it was worth it. She certainly looks a million dollars now and incidentally there is a Paris wearing this scheme for sale right now at a quarter of that price! I need a lottery win.....FAST!

Enjoy!
:ernae:

[doublecool]

Nice :applause:

[falcon409]

Spectacular Larry. Thanks for all your hard work on this one. . . .amazing.:ernae:

[ryanbatc]

Nice work Larry. The exterior is gorgeous. I'm not too keen on the wood paneling though :kilroy:

[Tako_Kichi]

Spectacular Larry. Thanks for all your hard work on this one. . . .amazing.:ernae:
You're welcome Ed. It was frustrating at times trying to get the curves right and futzing around with all the screws and gauges that needed to be copied and pasted to a new layer one at a time! :isadizzy:

I still have a few more civvy paints I want to do, one day I may actually get to fly her again! :icon_lol:

[Tako_Kichi]

Nice work Larry. The exterior is gorgeous. I'm not too keen on the wood paneling though :kilroy:
I will upload a cream panel version tomorrow just for you Ryan. ;)

It will just be a couple of files to take out the wood in the VC and in the external view so you will still need the previous upload.

[ryanbatc]

That's very kind of you, wow, thanks!!! :jump:

[Tako_Kichi]

I just uploaded the cream panel files and this is how she looks.

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091015/b_101603.jpg
http://media7.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091015/b_101923.jpg

:ernae:

[falcon409]

You da man Larry. Perfect!!!

[ryanbatc]

Really nice! :medals:

[peter12213]

Thats very nice, love the oak burr fascia panel here!

[doublecool]

I gotta tell ya Tako Kichi you did a wonderful job on these Paints and interiors :applause::applause::applause:

and I thank you :ernae: you'll make piglet proud.

[Tako_Kichi]

Thanks for the comments guys and glad you like the paints.

I spent a solid 12 hours working on another one today and almost came to the point where I was ready to toss the lot in the recycle bin I was so frustrated. :isadizzy:

I was really struggling to get the paint to go where I wanted it to go due to 'pixel pulling' issues in the area of the rear fuselage near the strake. The perfectionist in me wasn't happy with a bodge job but in the end I simply had to use 'artistic licence' and make the paint go where it was happy to go rather than where it goes on the real aircraft. It still looks pretty damn good even though it is not 100% accurate so I hope you guys like it when it's finished.

I finally put it to bed for the night a few minutes ago with the main fuselage texture finished and tomorrow I can work on the tip tanks and the two spec map textures.

I think I need a big one of these now :guinness: !!!! :icon_lol:

[falcon409]

Larry, you ought to write some of your techniques down. I have yet to find a tutorial that's written so that someone who has never done this before can understand it and follow the steps. There are always steps left out or skipped either due to a mistake or because the writer has done it so many times that even he forgets some of them or they're such minor steps he doesn't see them as relevant, except that for a novice, every single step, every layer change, every flip or flop is important.

[txnetcop]

WOW Larry good stuff. Im testing a new HD5850 your repaint looks awesome beyond belief. Thank you
Ted

[Tako_Kichi]

I just uploaded another repaint folks and this one caused me more than a few grey hairs! The paint in the lower rear fuselage area just didn't want to go where I wanted to put it so in the end I had to compromise but I think it still looks good if not quite an exact copy of the original.

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091016/b_160229.jpg

I applied some spec map magic to the grey paint so that it glints with a metallic silver effect in the sunlight.

Enjoy!

:ernae:

EDIT: Damn! I just noticed a small problem in the spec map in the shot above! :banghead: :angryfir:

I will get a fix up ASAP. :redface:

[falcon409]

I saw this repaint mentioned in an earlier post and thought it looked pretty nice. . . .your rendition is exceptional. Well Done Larry!!!:ernae:

[Tako_Kichi]

Thanks Ed, I just uploaded the fix too. They will be available as soon as the Admins clear them, I have three files in the queue at the moment.

[Tako_Kichi]

ARRRGGGHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :isadizzy::frown::crybaby:

I just spotted a video of that plane posted by Ted about 4 pages back and I totally missed it the first time round!

I only had two poor photos to work from and now I realize the upper wings are painted with blue and grey areas too! :censored:

I guess it's back to the paintshop for me!

Can any of the Admins delete the two files I have in the upload queue please so that they don't get out and I will do this job properly once and for all!

The files are:

ms-760_repaint_n760pj.zip
and

ms-760_repaint_n760pj_fix.zip
Thanks.

[falcon409]

. . . .I only had two poor photos to work from and now I realize the upper wings are painted with blue and grey areas too!

I guess it's back to the paintshop for me! Thanks.
lol, yep, that's the danger with these aircraft. In almost every case we can find pretty decent side and front shots, but rarely do we have access to top and bottom shots. It's usually up to us to guess what the paint scheme might be, lol.

[DennyA]

Anyone done a fake USAF or US Navy trainer livery for this? Seems like it could look cool.

Oooh, or early 60's RCAF in bare metal would be awesome, if anyone's looking for ideas for fantasy livery. :)

[peter12213]

Many thanks for this repaint TAKO, the weather was terrible around Denham today though lol!
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8692/2009101725110921.png

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/8813/200910172525187.png

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8264/2009101724859875.png

For some reason though my nav lights don't seem to show and its not just this aircraft, I havent deleted any either, strange??

[stansdds]

Looks like you were flying in weather that was very similar to what we had in Virginia. The wind pitched me around quite a bit, but I still got the MS-760 home in one piece.

[Txmmy83]

any weather programms used in the last screenshots?

active sky ? cloud add-on ?


BR
Tom

[peter12213]

Yeah its REX2, personally I think its the best for clouds!

[Tako_Kichi]

I just uploaded my latest repaint (thanks to the Admins for stopping my other upload :ernae: ). This one caused me some major headaches and I am glad to be able to put it away to be honest.

I had to make compromises to the paint in the rear fuselage as I mentioned earlier in this thread but then when I came to paint the upper wings (missed in my earlier upload attempt) I hit more 'pixel pulling' issues. :isadizzy:

On the real aircraft there are two grey pinstripes that follow the curve of the blue area on the upper wings. Unfortunately these pass directly over the air brakes and instead of two nice, sweeping, curves the paint in this area turned into a grey/white checkerboard! I made multiple attempts to try and fix the problem but nothing worked so I had to leave those stripes off the finished repaint as it just looked awful.

I still think it looks pretty good even if it is not 100% accurate.....

http://media6.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091018/b_135351.jpg
http://media7.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091018/b_135559.jpg

Let's hope the next one doesn't give me the same problems! I have too many grey hairs now, I don't need more caused by repainting frustrations! :rolleyes:

[spotlope]

That's a pretty spiff looking paint, Larry.

[Tako_Kichi]

That's a pretty spiff looking paint, Larry.
Thanks Bill. :ernae:

It would have been even spiffier if the paint went where I wanted to put it! :isadizzy:

[falcon409]

Outstanding job as always Larry. . .thanks for the hard work! Still waiting for this one to be posted however.

[Tako_Kichi]

Thanks Ed glad you like it.

The uploads have been taking a while to appear recently but it will get there eventually no doubt.

[jankees]

..and they appeared, excellent stuff!

I don't know if you need more ideas:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-Soc.-Oronzio/Morane-Saulnier-MS-760B-Paris/1587033/L/&sid=7265b973cdf9d3ff69fd0deb3e520d38

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-A-Gerber/Morane-Saulnier-MS-760-Paris/1587032/L/&sid=7265b973cdf9d3ff69fd0deb3e520d38

http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Air/Morane-Saulnier-MS-760-Paris/1402775/L/&sid=7265b973cdf9d3ff69fd0deb3e520d38

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-%28ParisJet%29/Morane-Saulnier-MS-760-Paris/1230813/&sid=7265b973cdf9d3ff69fd0deb3e520d38

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Morane-Saulnier-MS-760X-Paris/1014693/L/&sid=7265b973cdf9d3ff69fd0deb3e520d38

[Flyboy208]

Ohhh yes! N626TC, one sharp livery!

Mike :wavey:

[Tako_Kichi]

..and they appeared, excellent stuff!

I don't know if you need more ideas:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-Soc.-Oronzio/Morane-Saulnier-MS-760B-Paris/1587033/L/&sid=7265b973cdf9d3ff69fd0deb3e520d38

This one has been on my list for a while but I wasn't sure if many people would go for it.



http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-A-Gerber/Morane-Saulnier-MS-760-Paris/1587032/L/&sid=7265b973cdf9d3ff69fd0deb3e520d38

This one is on my list too and just last night I was discussing it online with a Swiss friend of mine (a former, long-serving, Swiss Air pilot) as I cannot make out the 'signature' on the tail. He remembers the aircraft from the early 70's but in those days it was still in it's military trainer paint. He is trying to find out some more info on it for me but until I can find out what the name is on the tail this one is going to have to sit for a while.



http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Air/Morane-Saulnier-MS-760-Paris/1402775/L/&sid=7265b973cdf9d3ff69fd0deb3e520d38

This one is not on my list (yet) but looks easy enough to work it around Tim's stock military bare metal scheme. I would need to research the logo on the nose though so that I can get it right. Anyone have any ideas?



http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-%28ParisJet%29/Morane-Saulnier-MS-760-Paris/1230813/&sid=7265b973cdf9d3ff69fd0deb3e520d38

This is a very similar scheme to the Swiss one (with a few colour changes and minus the Swiss flag on the tail). Should be easy enough to do either before or after the Swiss one if anyone wants it (no point in me painting it if there is no interest in it though ;) ).



http://www.airliners.net/photo/Morane-Saulnier-MS-760X-Paris/1014693/L/&sid=7265b973cdf9d3ff69fd0deb3e520d38
I considered this at one point and then moved on again....lol. There are very few photos of it on the net and I am really not sure if the stripe is gold or silver. It's really had to tell in that shot. The nose area looks silver but the tail area looks gold.

If anyone wants one of the less appealing paints above shout up, I am too busy to spend my time painting skins that nobody wants. :icon_lol:

[Tako_Kichi]

Ohhh yes! N626TC, one sharp livery!
It certainly is sharp but interestingly I almost painted this registration in it's other scheme but went with the N760JS registration instead. There are (or were at some point) at least three Paris Jets wearing the same 'JetSet' paint scheme, N626TC, N760JS and N761X.

[Tako_Kichi]

I managed to bang out a 'quickie' today and it is already in the upload queue.

http://media6.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091019/b_175359.jpg

I have an urge for something black and very shiny next I think. ;) :icon_lol:

[falcon409]

. . . . .I have an urge for something black and very shiny next I think. ;) :icon_lol:
Ah, I was hoping you'd take a crack at that one. . .I think the stripes are gold too. Kinda looks that way anyway.

[Tako_Kichi]

I think the stripes are gold too. Kinda looks that way anyway.
Well I thought so too until a crawl through the darkest corners of the internet turned up this photo....

http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00662062

So it looks like it is silver after all.

[falcon409]

Well I thought so too until a crawl through the darkest corners of the internet turned up this photo....

http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00662062

So it looks like it is silver after all.
Wow, some good detective work there Larry. Well Done!!

[peter12213]

Really nice paints mate thanks a lot!
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/498/200910202290609.png

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5135/20091020221546781.png

Looking forward to the gloss black one, if indeed you do it thats one nice paint scheme!:ernae:

[Tako_Kichi]

Really nice paints mate thanks a lot!

Glad you like them. :icon_lol:


Looking forward to the gloss black one, if indeed you do it thats one nice paint scheme!
I have been working on it all day and have the main painting done. Now I just have to get the shine right in the alpha channel and then play with the 'magic' stuff in the spec map. I supposed I had better check on the interior too...don't want to slip the cream interior into this one by mistake. ;)

[Nick C]

Just got around to installing this plane and taking a quick flight in her. I think I need the fix, but that aside she's a great plane. Many thanks Tim. :applause::applause::applause:

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/piglet/parisjet/piglet_paris_001.jpg

http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/piglet/parisjet/piglet_paris_002.jpg

[peter12213]

Great news on the black one TAKO mate, looking forward to that one now then!

Nice shots Nick!

[Tako_Kichi]

N626TC has just been uploaded and should be available within 24 hours once the Admins clear it.

http://media7.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091020/b_202720.jpg

Enjoy.
:ernae:

[LordAkshay798]

Could someone make a fictional USN repaint of this in VFC-12 Fighting Omars colors? That would be appreciated. :ernae:

[falcon409]

Oh man,. she's a beauty Larry, nicely done!!:ernae:

[jankees]

oh yes, that black one looks very cool!

[jankees]

This one is on my list too and just last night I was discussing it online with a Swiss friend of mine (a former, long-serving, Swiss Air pilot) as I cannot make out the 'signature' on the tail. He remembers the aircraft from the early 70's but in those days it was still in it's military trainer paint. He is trying to find out some more info on it for me but until I can find out what the name is on the tail this one is going to have to sit for a while.



I think the signature says 'Morane Saulnier', probably with the type underneath



This one is not on my list (yet) but looks easy enough to work it around Tim's stock military bare metal scheme. I would need to research the logo on the nose though so that I can get it right. Anyone have any ideas?



I do, it's the slightly stylized logo of the city of Paris, nicely appropriate, as the plane is called Paris too.
http://www.ici.upmc.fr/images/villedeParisLogo.png

Great job on the repaints so far!

[anatolpopov]

I don't have a time read whole topic again if this is already posted but have you seen the news... about Paris Jet?

http://www.aopa.org/nbaa/2009/091020paris.html

All I need now is money for license and aircraft
:ernae:

[anatolpopov]

La Palma, another side of the island than where the airport is...

[Tako_Kichi]

I think the signature says 'Morane Saulnier', probably with the type underneath
Looking at the photo again I think you could well be right Jankees.


I do, it's the slightly stylized logo of the city of Paris, nicely appropriate, as the plane is called Paris too.
It looks like Piglet already has that logo on his bare metal scheme (I hadn't noticed that as I haven't flown that skin yet). :redface:


Great job on the repaints so far!
Thanks.

[Tako_Kichi]

I don't have a time read whole topic again if this is already posted but have you seen the news... about Paris Jet?

http://www.aopa.org/nbaa/2009/091020paris.html

All I need now is money for license and aircraft
:ernae:
Thanks for that link, it made very interesting reading and explains why there are a number of Paris aircraft all wearing the JetSet scheme. I wish them all the best in the venture as it would be nice to see more of them in the air and they look like they will be available at a fraction of the cost of a new VLJ.

[Tako_Kichi]

I just uploaded another repaint. ;)

This time it's for HB-PAA and here's a shot of her in her natural environment.

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/93830/20091021/b_211958.jpg

Enjoy!

:ernae:

[falcon409]

Oh baby. . . .you have made the Paris Jet a real showcase Larry. Beautiful work!!:ernae:

[Tako_Kichi]

Thanks Ed, Tim's paintkit makes it a joy to paint (with a couple of exceptions but I know how to work around those areas now).

[Flyboy208]

Thanks so much Larry for these 2 new beautiful repaints. Cheers! Mike :ernae:

[peter12213]

Tke like Mike said thanks a lot mate, you have outdone yourself yet again. Brilliant paints mate, very much enjoying them here!
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2306/200910234402015.png

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8480/2009102344141468.png

Thanks again!:ernae:

[doublecool]

:applause::applause::applause: You have again just done some great work on these paints Larry

Thank you

[Tako_Kichi]

Well who'd have thought it! :isadizzy:

I was just checking the download stats for my repaints and the Swiss Paris repaint has just become my most popular repaint so far. It just pipped the JetSet one for the title!

I know it's a nice paint scheme but I never thought it would reach 100 downloads never mind 240 (at the present time).

BTW if you are wondering why my Paris repaints have suddenly dried up it's because I hit computer problems last week and the only way out of them was to reformat my C: drive and reinstall XP and all my software again. Several days later I am still adding software but on an 'as needed' basis now and the good news is that all my paint kit files were safe so I should be able to pick up the painting process again shortly.

[peter12213]

good news mate!

[Piglet]

Glad to see ya all getting alot of pleasure out of my Paris Jet!:ernae::ernae:
Tako, with my current project, you may be booked for life! One of the reasons I picked this current project is the near endless repaint choices.
Details in due time....

[Tako_Kichi]

Tako, with my current project, you may be booked for life! One of the reasons I picked this current project is the near endless repaint choices.
Details in due time....
OH OH! :icon_eek:

Had I better clone myself now in an......ticip.....ation of what is to come! :running:

:applause::mixedsmi::applause:

[Bjoern]

Tako, with my current project, you may be booked for life! One of the reasons I picked this current project is the near endless repaint choices.

Boeing 737-200? :icon_lol:

[Tako_Kichi]

Boeing 737-200? :icon_lol:
I really hope not!

I HATE tubes! :angryfir: :tgun2::gameoff:

But then again we are talking about Piglet's Peculiar Planes and as all tubes look alike (AFAIAC) I think it is a safe bet it is not tube related.

[Bjoern]

I really hope not!

I HATE tubes! :angryfir: :tgun2::gameoff:

But then again we are talking about Piglet's Peculiar Planes and as all tubes look alike (AFAIAC) I think it is a safe bet it is not tube related.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/t3h_3vil/Smileys/bawling.gif http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/t3h_3vil/Smileys/bse.gif http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/t3h_3vil/Smileys/huh.gif http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/t3h_3vil/Smileys/motz.gifhttp://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/t3h_3vil/Smileys/no.gif


Sticks and stones may break my bones...but words will hurt forever.


;P

[peter12213]

No I don't think Tim would do a commercial tube to be honest (I ALSO HATE THEM). I hope not at least lol, shall we start taking bets as to what it is!

Ohh and happy Halloween lol :icon_twi:

[Piglet]

This is gonna be fun.......:applause:

[peter12213]

LOL I just hope we get some good guesses, I'm not hedging my bets yet though Tim!
One thing I would like to bet on though mate is that its a cold war era one, whatever it is I'm thourghly looking forward to it mate!:ernae:

[madia41]

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Here are a few repaints of Tim Conrad's magnificent MS760 in French markings which should be available for download soon. Many thanks to "Piglet", his planes are really a true wonder. And releasing a paint kit makes them even more appealing. Many thanks once again, Mr. Conrad!<o:p></o:p>
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This plane was designed and built in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region><st1:place>France</st1:place></st1:country-region>, so I thought it deserves some French markings, doesn't it? And who ever would have dreamed of such a little known plane being covered with so much care in Flight Simulator?<o:p></o:p>
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Yet this is work in progress, there still are plenty of details to be refined, so please indulge… Each time I look at the screenshots I realize how much work still has to be done!<o:p></o:p>
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N°01 as seen during its 4 ½ months commercial tour to the <st1:country-region><st1:place>USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region> (1955); it should have no VOR antennas on the fin and just a short VHF whip aerial over the nose. This aircraft suffered a landing accident in <st1:City><st1:place>Lisbon</st1:place></st1:City> in May 1958, caught fire and was written off.<o:p></o:p>
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N°26 - Escadron de Reconnaissance 2/33 “Savoie”, early sixties. As with all French Air Force MS760s, whatever the period, it should have the very prominent dorsal VHF2 crescent shaped antenna (painted black or very dark grey in this instance) on top of the fuselage. The VOR antennas on the fin sides are non-relevant for this early machine, as are the OMI, IFF and DME antennas under the front fuselage.<o:p></o:p>
http://nsm02.casimages.com/img/2009/12/10//091210044749920805030764.jpg (http://www.casimages.com)<o:p></o:p>
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N°34 - Escadron de Transport et d’Entrainement 2/65 "Rambouillet", 1975. This one lacks the ubiquitous large crescent shaped VHF2 antenna, painted dark grey-green on this instance<o:p></o:p>
http://nsm02.casimages.com/img/2009/12/10//091210044749920805030765.jpg (http://www.casimages.com)<o:p></o:p>
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N°35 - 2<SUP>ème</SUP> Escadre de Chasse, early sixties. The colour of the flashes on the tip tanks is only guesswork, working from 50 years old B&W pictures. This aircraft should have no VOR antennas on the fin sides and no OMI, IFF and DME antennas under the front fuselage. The very large crescent shaped VHF2 antenna on the fuselage spine should still be there, as always.<o:p></o:p>
http://nsm02.casimages.com/img/2009/12/10//091210044749920805030766.jpg (http://www.casimages.com)<o:p></o:p>
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N°39 as used by the French Civil Aviation Authority to train future airline pilots in the early seventies. The VHF2 antenna on the 6 machines used by this Authority was a large horizontal "V" shaped affair mounted on top of a forwards-canted mast, exactly like on the 14 French Navy aircraft. The 6 planes used by the French Civil Aviation Authority (F-BJET, F-BJLV, F-BJLX, F-BJLY, F-BNRG and F-BOJO) had no VOR antennas on the fin sides.<o:p></o:p>
http://nsm02.casimages.com/img/2009/12/10//091210044749920805030767.jpg (http://www.casimages.com)<o:p></o:p>
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N°65 - Escadron de Liaison 41 "Verdun", 1978. All antennas are nearly correct except for the missing VHF2 antenna; and, by the way, the VOR antennas on the fin sides should be half-rounded in shape, not rectangular as if they were looking like drawer handles<o:p></o:p>
http://nsm02.casimages.com/img/2009/12/10//091210044750920805030768.jpg (http://www.casimages.com)<o:p></o:p>
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N°73 - Escadron d'Expérimentation et de Transport 06.330 "Albret", 1997. This one should have the large VHF2 dorsal antenna too, obviously; and since it has red/white painted VOR antennas, the rogue rectangular shape is even more conspicuous<o:p></o:p>
http://nsm02.casimages.com/img/2009/12/10//091210044750920805030769.jpg (http://www.casimages.com)<o:p></o:p>
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N°116 - Centre d'Essais en Vol, 1985. Flight Test Centre aircraft have always had an avionics suite of their own, and this one is no exception. Yet the dorsal VHF2 blade antenna should be located further aft and it should be much larger – just like on most Argentine Air Force machines, by the way<o:p></o:p>
http://nsm02.casimages.com/img/2009/12/10//091210044749920805030763.jpg (http://www.casimages.com)<o:p></o:p>

[madia41]

THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME (continued)...

French Air Force MS760s were used as communication aircraft, most of the time carrying VIPs. Therefore they were kept in pristine condition, with little or no weathering or oil stains. In the early days the airframe was polished natural metal but later the aircraft were sprayed overall with a silver dope that gave them a satin finish. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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You will notice that the antenna arrangement varied greatly from one aircraft to the other, even when operated by the same user. So this is almost impossible to portray accurately, although some authors from time to time accept to take this kind of detail into account. Such has been the case with the FSX Vertol H-21 by Mick Posch or with the FS9 Cessna L-19 and Canadair CL-215 by Massimo Taccoli, for instance. Those little details make the difference.<o:p></o:p>
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Unfortunately there are a couple of other problems with the MDL file. The most conspicuous one is the way the outer main landing gear doors have been made to operate: on a Morane Paris those doors were always open when the gear was extended. They did not just open and close at the moment when the gear was extending or retracting, as depicted on the model. Thus, a <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>Paris</st1:place></st1:City> on the ground always had those gear doors open, quite an unusual feature and a much visible detail indeed. This detracts from the overall appearance of the aircraft which otherwise would be very convincing. (N°71/DE was painted just for comparison purposes with a series of old B&W pictures I took way back in 1976. There seems to be a few snags about the nose shape, the curves in the forward fuselage area and the shadow on the rudder).<o:p></o:p>
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I suspect there may be some kind of a problem with the way the tail assembly has been modelled, but this is faintly visible from most angles and does not detract from the overall appearance, which is magnificent.<o:p></o:p>
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Another annoying point in the MDL file is the way the wing tip tanks are modelled, which prevents from accurately painting a separate colour on the outer faces of those tip tanks. Since the majority of the aircraft (nearly all French Air Force machines, the half-dozen used by the French Civil Aviation Authority, the ten used by the Centre d’Essais en Vol, many ones in the Argentine Air Force too, etc…) had the outer faces of the tanks painted dayglo at one time or another in their service life, this is kind of a pity. But might be someone has found a solution to paint them correctly? I made many trials, albeit without success.<o:p></o:p>
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Now just in case you are interested in how a French Air Force MS760 instrument panel looked like, here is a picture showing what the layout was as from the early seventies and until the retirement of those aircraft in 2001. But here again things varied from one user to the other, and even the French Navy didn’t have the same layout as the Air Force!<o:p></o:p>
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Finally, one afterthought: I have seen the paint kit by Tim Conrad (without which I would have been unable to make those repaints, obviously; so many thanks to him once again) has been downloaded more than 120 times. Yet I have only seen repaints by three or four persons. One really wonders why some people download such files, if they don't know how to use them.<o:p></o:p>
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[jankees]

Looking very good indeed!
I'll most certainly download them


One really wonders why some people download such files, if they don't know how to use them.<o:p></o:p>.<o:p></o:p>

I was one of them, but it was more a question of time rather than knowledge...

[Tako_Kichi]

Another annoying point in the MDL file is the way the wing tip tanks are modelled, which prevents from accurately painting a separate colour on the outer faces of those tip tanks. Since the majority of the aircraft (nearly all French Air Force machines, the half-dozen used by the French Civil Aviation Authority, the ten used by the Centre d’Essais en Vol, many ones in the Argentine Air Force too, etc…) had the outer faces of the tanks painted dayglo at one time or another in their service life, this is kind of a pity. But might be someone has found a solution to paint them correctly? I made many trials, albeit without success.<o:p></o:p>
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I managed to get a clean line in that area but it took me a long time and much hair pulling before I figured out what was going on.

That is exactly where the texture wraps around on itself and the area on the tex map is larger than the area used by the model. The paint down that centre-line is pulled from both sides of the tex area too and not just one and it is not pulled in a straight line either but zig-zags from side to side down the length.

I suggest you download my Jet-Set repaint (N760JS) and have a look at where I painted my line between the black and white on the tip tanks, both on the outer edges of the tex area and more importantly on the inner edges (the black is a bit hard to see against the black background but you should be able to see it against the white area on one side ... I can ;) ). Just 1 pixel off those demarcation lines to either side and you will get the results shown above (it really is THAT critical).

Hopefully you will see what I did and will be able to correct your paint. Let us know how you get on with it.

[Piglet]

WOW! Find anything else? Oh well, considering the prices I charge.
Don't get me wrong, I don't resent feedback (good or bad!), just gotta work with what you have when trying to collect refs, drawings, etc.

[calypsos]

He, he....and some have called me a 'rivet counter' with British aircraft!

Don't worry Tim, she is perfect for 99.9% of us, if we paid $50 for it, then I would expect a multitude of different aerials etc. , but at your price, the Paris is a total gem and great value for money!! Hopefully we will not have an Antonov specialist pop up in the near future, with the multitude of different version there, it could be a long post:icon_lol:.


Those paints are very nice BTW, media41.

[stansdds]

Only problem I have with Piglet's MS760 is a lack of time to fly it.

[Ferry_vO]

My only problem is a lack of photos of this Dutch Paris, used by the 'Rijksluchtvaartschool Holland' (Dutch aviation school); would love to have a repaint of this aircraft!

[cheezyflier]

Only problem I have with Piglet's MS760 is a lack of time to fly it.

i just completed a long series of flights from isreal to greece, to london to greenland to new york to ohio with a few extra fuel stops here and there.
it's a cool model

[madia41]

Hi Tako and many thanks for your advice. Your method worked like a charm. I had tried several solutions, but none of them was right. I just have to rework all of my paintings now! <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Don't be puzzled by the inverted flying position. The <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>Paris</st1:place></st1:City> was supposed to be aerobatic capable and in those times in the French Air Force some people liked to fly inverted. Here is a picture I took in September 1987. I apologize for the poor quality, but I was starting wondering which way I was up myself!<o:p></o:p>
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Now to answer Ferry-vO's question, the RLJ operated seven MS760s between roughly 1962 and 1973/1974:<o:p></o:p>
N°102 PH-MSR<o:p></o:p>
N°103 PH-MSS<o:p></o:p>
N°104 PH-MST<o:p></o:p>
N°105 PH-MSU<o:p></o:p>
N°106 PH-MSV<o:p></o:p>
N°107 PH-MSW<o:p></o:p>
N°108 PH-MSX<o:p></o:p>
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Pictures of some of them can be found when searching from this page: http://www.aeroboek.nl/ab-111.htm (http://www.aeroboek.nl/ab-111.htm)<o:p></o:p>
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[Bjoern]

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