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Panther_99FS
July 31st, 2006, 09:45
A comment by a caller on SPEEDVISION last night prompted me to this post...:mixedsmi:

So let's see a coupla years back, Earnhardt Jr. gets fined 25 points for cursing on the radio....

Tony Stewart uses his car as a weapon, takes out 2 cars, and gets just a black flag.....

You be the 'judge' of the degree of ridiculousness......:engel016:

EasyEd
July 31st, 2006, 21:25
Hey All,

Yup! It is ridiculous! Directly attributable to NASCARs desire to remain wholesome family fun! :costumes: (And profitable for the Frances too) I've seen worse - usually on pit road where real pit crewmen can get seriously hurt.

-Ed-

CWD
July 31st, 2006, 22:02
Attempted vehicular manslaughter is wholesome, apparently.

EasyEd
July 31st, 2006, 22:27
Hey All,

CWD On pit road it should be a very serious offense. The bumping they do on the track is basically harmless anymore. Most everybody has lots of money so it don't matter if you tear up cars. That and safer barriers, hans devices, tremendously beefed up cages - tell me when was the last time a driver was seriously hurt in a Cup (the standards in Busch and ARCA may be different I don't know - note Stewart hurt his ribs in a Busch race) race? No now days it's crash and go have a beer afterwards. Look at some of the spectacular crashes - Newman or Sadler at Talledega - both are out and walking. Only fire is of great concern now. Before the death of Dale it was serious but since then driver safety has skyrocketed. That is perhaps the greatest legacy Dale left NASCAR. Unfortunately or perhaps profitably it allows the drivers to drive and pull Stewart kind of stuff with basically no fear.

-Ed-

Ferry_vO
August 1st, 2006, 07:00
Before the death of Dale it was serious but since then driver safety has skyrocketed. That is perhaps the greatest legacy Dale left NASCAR.

It was Dale himself who objected the most against the HANS device, ironically his own death could have been prevented if he used one..

Drivers should be careul though; (serious) injury might not happen that often anymore, but that's no excuse to ram each other into the barriers.
We are still talking big lumps of metal (Or carbon fibre) going around at amazing speeds; not only the driver could get hurt, but bystanders as well.

Panther_99FS
August 1st, 2006, 10:39
It was Dale himself who objected the most against the HANS device, ironically his own death could have been prevented if he used one..

Drivers should be careul though; (serious) injury might not happen that often anymore, but that's no excuse to ram each other into the barriers.
We are still talking big lumps of metal (Or carbon fibre) going around at amazing speeds; not only the driver could get hurt, but bystanders as well.

Pretty much all of NASCAR rejected the device. There were safety features out prior to Earnhardt senior's death, but for the most part, NASCAR didn't implement them......:isadizzy:

eddie
August 1st, 2006, 10:51
I thought Jr's fine for swearing was way over the top, considering the context it was used in. Not suggesting everyone should be out there trash talking, but that was an ignorant fine to give him!

I'm not sure what the cause is for this type of retaliation going on on the race tracks, a lot of pressure is being put on the drivers early in the season now because of the "Chase". I don't like this setup NASCAR has for the championship, because when you get to the last 10 races, all teams not in there are racing for what? The expense for the teams who are not in the Chase, far out weigh what they could win over those last ten races.

Imagine if they fined everyone in the NFL for swearing,:d

Ferry_vO
August 1st, 2006, 10:54
Pretty much all of NASCAR rejected the device. There were safety features out prior to Earnhardt senior's death, but for the most part, NASCAR didn't implement them......:isadizzy:

There was a documentary on Discovery here recently, where the NASCAR doctor stated it was Earnhardt himself who was most opposed against the HANS device. He refused to wear one.

The HANS system wasn't part of the rules until after his death.

Panther_99FS
August 1st, 2006, 12:30
There was a documentary on Discovery here recently, where the NASCAR doctor stated it was Earnhardt himself who was most opposed against the HANS device. He refused to wear one.

The HANS system wasn't part of the rules until after his death.

Definitely - But it was out there. Earnhardt and pretty much the rest of NASCAR were all against it....

wombat666
August 1st, 2006, 12:49
There was a documentary on Discovery here recently, where the NASCAR doctor stated it was Earnhardt himself who was most opposed against the HANS device. He refused to wear one.

It's called 'Freedom of Choice' ....:applause:
Seems to be in very short supply these days.