A very special preview that's sure to excite

[tigisfat]

Here she is, made by the now-famous teaming of Milviz and FSD. Remember, these are representative of a beta being tested, and not of the final product, though I have a feeling that these betas are good enough for most as a final product.

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[taseal]

nice!!!!

[VFR Reviews]

:ernae:

Extraordinary metal portrayal, if I do say so myself :)

[MudMarine]

YEEE-HAWWW!! Been wondering what's up with the bolt? Just a question, repectfully asked: Did 38's really sit that nose high? I've never seen one first hand, I just honestly don't know?

[deimos256]

put me down on the purchase list

[tigisfat]

YEEE-HAWWW!! Been wondering what's up with the bolt? Just a question, repectfully asked: Did 38's really sit that nose high? I've never seen one first hand, I just honestly don't know?

I'm no P-38 expert, but when I saw the Red Bull P-38 that's exactly how it looked.

[Blue/Angel/Fan]

put me down on the purchase list

Me to!

[Helldiver]

Very nice looking Lightning. The framework looks just right.
Only question is why are the SCR-522 radios painted white? They're always black. I saw one once that had olive drab paint but had been done with a brush over the black paint.
Those things kept a lot of Hams busy for many a year. They were crystal controlled and could be used up to 10 Meters. Good reliable transceiver.

[Scratch]

:ernae:

Extraordinary metal portrayal, if I do say so myself :)

Yes indeed!! It looks just right:ernae:

[Lionheart]

Looking nice!!

How on Earth do they get that font resolution so nice??



Bill

[djscoo]

That metal looks 1000000000000000000000000000000x better than before!

Also, the age-old question: What scenery??

[tigisfat]

That metal looks 1000000000000000000000000000000x better than before!

Also, the age-old question: What scenery??

megascenery socal:

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/walkeramerican/screenshots/2009-9-17_18-52-43-303.jpg


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[tigisfat]

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[spotlope]

Deeeelicious. The Lightning is one of my favorite birds of all time, and definitely my fave WWII fighter. I've been following this one for a while, and it's great to see it drawing near to completion. Thanks for the pics!

[Matt Wynn]

How on Earth do they get that font resolution so nice??


large texture sheet and a good quality Font, is simple enough to do :ernae:

great looking P-38 keep it up :jump:

[tigisfat]

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/walkeramerican/screenshots/2009-9-17_22-43-39-21.jpg


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[Tim_Horton]

Only question is why are the SCR-522 radios painted white? They're always black. I saw one once

Love it! my Favorite movie was made around this plane, and then Remade about water bombing .. anyone know what im talking about?

Anyway I gotta laugh at helldiver...... why are they white, they're always black.... Cause I saw one once.... hahahahahah


Just in case you don't know... The premise is based on the 1943 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1943_in_film) movie A Guy Named Joe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Guy_Named_Joe) and follows the same basic plot line, The remake??? "Always" But a Guy named Joe was WAY better cause it has this plane in it, and well it was in black and white, its always better in black and white.

[gajit]

Very excited - lookng forward to this one :jump:

[italoc]

Very excited - lookng forward to this one :jump:

Me too :applause:

Italo

[Quicksand]

:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause: :applause::applause:

[Helldiver]

"Anyway I gotta laugh at helldiver...... why are they white, they're always black.... Cause I saw one once.... hahahahahah"

Tim, I saw them more than once. I stared at two of them plus the accompaning linear amplifier while riding in the ass end of various SB2Cs. They were always right in front of me.
Plus I saw probably a hundred of them in the original Radio Shack in Boston, when their only business was selling war surplus equipment.
Then in my Ham radio days I must have seen a coupla dozen in various ham shacks.
They were always painted a crinkly black.

[MudMarine]

Putting a "red bull" on the side of that beautiful warbird makes me want to puke.:icon_lol::engel016: But it each his own!!

[spotlope]

See, I was just thinking that some WWII pilot would have thought that was a kick-ass symbol to put on his plane. If you forget about the nasty-tasting "energy drink" it stands for, it's kind of a cool graphic. But like you said, to each his own.

[X_eidos2]

There's a very interesting video on YouTube about the P-38 restored by Red Bull. It might explain why the team decided to include a Red Bull paint scheme.

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[PRB]

YEEE-HAWWW!! Been wondering what's up with the bolt? Just a question, repectfully asked: Did 38's really sit that nose high? I've never seen one first hand, I just honestly don't know?

I’ve seen photos of P-38s in all attitudes from parallel to the ground to images like this one here. An extreme example, perhaps, since it looks like the nose wheel is actually off the ground, and the tails are touching the ground. I imagine it has something to do with weight distribution in general, and ammunition weight in the nose, in particular…

[MudMarine]

But it's not WWII nose art it's a commercial for an energy drink. They can do with it what they wish, they own it. Which doesn't mean I can't tell them it's ugly, God bless free speech!:engel016:

Back to the subject: HURRY UP AND RELEASE THE BEAST!!:applause::jump:

[MudMarine]

I’ve seen photos of P-38s in all attitudes from parallel to the ground to images like this one here. An extreme example, perhaps, since it looks like the nose wheel is actually off the ground, and the tails are touching the ground. I imagine it has something to do with weight distribution in general, and ammunition weight in the nose, in particular…

Great photo P!!:applause:

[Bjoern]

Quality modeling there, Milviz! :applause:


Yet, somehow my excitement can be pretty well described as "lukewarm".
On the other hand, if this one had jets could carry more than one passenger...

[tigisfat]

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[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

I came up with the idea to do a restored version with modern avionics and "Red Bull" was some pretty , i fell under its spell the minute i saw it and just had to do it, as well the group thought that having a modern pit would please those who like using those new toys , GNS systems and the like , all custom gauges as well , no default FSX stuff .

It also includes another pilot and quite a number of other changes to the fuselage, the version that Tigisfat has is the version i sent out first to have
the load manager prepared and is still being constructed .

C.J for FSD

[tigisfat]

If those two don't drop your jaw, you're in the wrong hobby. :ernae::monkies::icon_lol:

[Bomber_12th]

I'm quite excited to see the Red Bull (ex Lefty Gardner) example being done as well. For me, I greatly admire the real-life example, for the amazing quality of craftsmanship and metalwork that went into its rebuild. It also is very sleek, and reminiscent of a YP-38.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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The aircraft has its rear radiator housings painted silver, which is a necessity, as the paint prevents the aluminum from becoming too hot - the original units were made of steel I believe, and were not at such risks of temperature punishment. Also, a large section of the under-belly of the wing, is painted the same silver, as seen between the center gondola and outer booms. The nose art has changed, since the time you have it portrayed, now featuring writing. The gear doors and wells are painted light/grey primer, and the glare shields are more green than brown. The elevator balancers, are painted with the Red Bull logo, and there is Red Bull text on the inside of the two outer flaps. See attached images...

BTW, I am very glad to see the P-38 shaping up so well! The stance is excellent - which would change greatly with the amount of ammunition loaded in the nose. Of course it isn't preferred to operate a P-38 with the nose that lacking of weight. Current examples have a mixture of items to weight down the nose, so as to keep the center of gravity well forward, so the nose oleo is quite compressed - same goes for the P-39's and P-63's you might see flying around. The Red Bull P-38 has all of its boxes of avionics up in the nose, as well as a weight or two I believe.

[Bomber_12th]

Here is a great video showing Nelson Ezell piloting the Red Bull P-38 shortly after finishing the restoration, filmed by a passenger, cramped in behind the pilot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS6Xd8xbd6A

[Gibbage]

Yes. The Red Bull/restored P-38 is very special and has significant mods over a traditional P-38. It is, in reality, a P-38L. Left Gardner raced it extensivly in Reno and modified it with the engine coweling of a P-38F (small mouth) and removed the GE Turbo off of the back. The White Lightning had a small carb scoop on top. Sadly, while his son was flying it, the supercharger on the back of the Allison exploded, and a peace cut through a fuel line. That fuel spilled onto the hot exhaust ducting and caught of fire.

His son had to ditch the White Lightning in a corn field (minus the corn luckly) but the belly landing did a lot of damage. Too much for the family to pay for. Red Bull has a lot of aircraft, and purchased the wreck for restoration. After years, and many additional mods, its done. The biggest mod was the carb scoops. They are much bigger and extend forward along the coweling.

Due to trademarks and such, we cant call it a Red Bull P-38, and cant copy the logo or have the name. So we just call it a restored P-38 with modern avonics.

Since we are playing show-n-tell, let me show and tell you about some of the details in the P-38 package!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/gibbage/p38_02.jpg

The P-38 had a LOT of plumbing in the boom to duct air to and from the GE Turbo charger. Some of it extended into the main wheel well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/gibbage/p38_01.jpg

Here is the business end of the Lightning. The nose is packed tight with 4 .50 cal M2's and a big 20MM plus the ammo to feed them. The ammo for all guns were carried in an easy to remove ammo case that the ground crews could replace quicky. Most wing mounted guns (P-51 and P-47)had to have the wings packed with ammo and that took considerable time. Almost every detail is modeled, including the bullets, and the handle on the ammo tray.

The P-38 is by far my favorite aircraft, and its been a pleasure and honor to work on such a project. Im really looking forward to what the skinners can do!

[spotlope]

Yaay, a properly-sized pilot! In most sim aircraft, it looks like you can play hockey in the 'pit. This one does a good job of showing how shoehorned-in the driver really is. Stunning from many other angles as well, of course. Hats off! :ernae:

[Bomber_12th]

Hey Kevin, I completely understand where you are coming from with not wanting to deal with copyright issues, etc. I love your attention to detail with the modeling, and the texture work is superb as well - the crisp/clear stenciling around the bottom of the booms and other curved surfaces such as the radiator scoops and wing fairings, shows that the model features some amazing texture mapping as well! There are some great repaint possibilities with the P-38 - I personally would love to do "California Cutie", "Little Buckaroo", and "Journey's End".

[Mathias]

Quality modeling there, Milviz! :applause:


...
On the other hand, if this one had jets could carry more than one passenger...

We have room here for every kind of fetish. :bump:

[Gibbage]

It could carry a passenger, just not comfortably.

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

Mathias , your sense of humour is as refined as your design work , that is the funniest thing i have read in some time , a true master of the “ Quip “ you are someone i would enjoy meeting over a few beers .:icon29: cheers

[peter12213]

this just = class to me personally....
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11035&d=1253303142
Who does this I want my car done lol!
P.S. can not wait for this!

[tigisfat]

That is really cool.

[Gibbage]

Ya. Its possible with how I mapped out the mass balancer, just not to that detail as its such a small object.

The ironic thing about it all is there is no need for a mass balancer on the elevator. It was forced onto the design by a pre-war committe! There already is a mass balancer hidden inside the rudder's on each side of the elevator. The external one is just for looks and can be removed without hindering the performance. The thing is, that teardrop shape on the elevator is now iconic to the P-38. It just looks wrong without it.

[JorisVandenBerghe]

Fantastic. And the nicest thing is that I'll have the chance to see the Red Bull/Flying Bulls P-38 Lightning performing at Sanicole Airshow tomorrow. I really can't wait, both for the airshow tomorrow and this aircraft. It's been a while since I have flown in FSX - due to low in-game performance after installing REX 2, guess this old pc is really too old after all to run it decently - but this is one that will definitely get a place in my virtual hangar :jump:! Excellent work everyone!

[Gibbage]

WHat sort of show is it performing? I would love to get a video of it doing its thing!

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

While thinking about the repainting of the P39 i reminded myself that we included a version that should really simplify the process in the form of a <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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David Copley mentioned that all the L versions were shipped unpainted and the squadron markings were done when they got to their destinations, so a brand new L is included that will be a breeze to paint in the markings of your favourite outfit directly on the bitmaps with only two used, as well there were a couple of other features that are included , like functional Rockets and 500 pounders with sound and effects upon deployment ( The Machine Guns also ) .<o:p></o:p>

[gajit]

:jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:

[JorisVandenBerghe]

It's an 'ordinary' (I don't think there have been any Lightnings in the Belgian skies during the last ten or fifteen years or so) flying display, but I'll post the pictures here. If they're any good, that is, the latest weather forecasts don't indicate really good weather for an airshow but it's in Belgium and it's already late in September, so it is normal, maximum temperature 22°, min 12°, cloudy with possible precipitation and/or thunderstorm. But I'll see what I can do.
Mods, sorry for going slightly off-topic :kilroy:...

[jankees]

:jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:

:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

[Bjoern]

we have room here for every kind of fetish. :bump:

;p ;p