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[Mathias]

Some ingame cockpit shots of the Butcherbird, an Fw190 A-5.
I basically started from scratch on the shader and low poly geometry front over the early variants.
Most of the stuff is in except a few screws and needles.
Needs a bit of texture tweaking and #1 should be done by the end of the week.
Enjoy!

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/2009-8-26_12-47-10-385.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/2009-8-26_12-48-15-833.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/2009-8-26_12-48-51-635.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/2009-8-26_12-49-36-20.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/2009-8-26_12-50-19-762.jpg

[michael davies]

YOU !, Kind sir, have too much spare time on your hands LOL, very tasty indeed.

Best

Michael

[spotlope]

Flippin' gorgeous!

[Gibbage]

Outstanding work!

[Henry]

Could you do one with MPH instead:icon_lol:
that looks Awesome:applause::applause:
Stunning
H

[CG_1976]

Usually im not one for a Focke Wulf, but looking at that detail in the VC and the smoothness I may just breakdown and buy her when released. Splendid job:medals:

[Mathias]

Could you do one with MPH instead:icon_lol:

H

Uhm, actually yes, Henry.
We do the Flugwerk A-8/N as part of the package which has modern gauges.
It's just too early to show this one off.

[dswo]

Mathias, THIS is the bird I've been waiting for. Screenshots look even better than I hoped for.

But what is that little white rectangle at the top of the artificial horizon? Is that supposed to be part of the turn indicator? On the real ones that I have seen, the rectangle is attached to a stick, not painted on the horizon.

I know this must seem like nitpicking...

[MudMarine]

WOW and double WOW!! Just beautiful!!:applause:

[Mathias]

But what is that little white rectangle at the top of the artificial horizon? Is that supposed to be part of the turn indicator? On the real ones that I have seen, the rectangle is attached to a stick, not painted on the horizon.

I know this must seem like nitpicking...


There's two rectangles at the top, the upper one painted on the inner rim, the lower one attached to a "needle" (invisible inside the housing) which does the turn coordinator job.
EDIT: I see where you're coming from as it appears to be painted on the horizon ball, but it is not, it's kinda free floating.
Thanks for pointing that out, I'll bake a bit of ambient occlusion under it to better pronounce it.

[Scratch]

OUTSTANDING!!! That cockpit looks so real I swear I can almost smell it. Dang that is some fine work!:applause::ernae:

[jankees]

WOW! That looks so good I want to reach out and touch it!
Outstanding work!

[Roger]

I think they like it Mathias:d

[Cerberus]

Thats amazing work Mathias. What does it say on the blue ink scribble?

[Mathias]

Thanks everyone, much apprechiated!
I'll put up a little video sometime next week (maybe) to show off a bit of the dynamic shine in the cockpit which really adds a lot to the immersion.


Thats amazing work Mathias. What does it say on the blue ink scribble?

"Zum Mittag bei Mutti", in Sütterlin, old German handtype. :bump:

[jdhaenens]

Gorgeous Mathias, just gorgeous.

Jim

[Bjoern]

Wow....wowowowowow!

[MudMarine]

Thanks everyone, much apprechiated!
I'll put up a little video sometime next week (maybe) to show off a bit of the dynamic shine in the cockpit which really adds a lot to the immersion.



"Zum Mittag bei Mutti", in Sütterlin, old German handtype. :bump:

Sutterlin is a beautiful script, I was just practing it the other day. Writing like that is a dead art form........sad! Looking forward to drooling on my keyboard somemore! You're a real artist Mathias! Once the Fw is done is it on to a Bf110?:jump::applause::engel016:

[Lionheart]

:faint: :isadizzy:

Awesome awesome work M!



Bill

[Mathias]

Mathias, THIS is the bird I've been waiting for. Screenshots look even better than I hoped for.

But what is that little white rectangle at the top of the artificial horizon? Is that supposed to be part of the turn indicator? On the real ones that I have seen, the rectangle is attached to a stick, not painted on the horizon.

I know this must seem like nitpicking...

Appologies Dave, gotta quote you another time.
There were many different artificials in use.
The one in the screenshots is an Fl. 22411-1 which has the "stick" running horizontally into the rear of the housing, that's why it's not visible.
The A-8 for instance was more commonly seen with an Fl.22415 which had the turn coordinator attached in a more classical manner vertically at the bottom, running right through the horizont bar and the aircraft symbol.
Some A-5/A-6 have also been equipped with an Fl. 22410 which had the turn coordinator attached vertically, too. I decided to use the 22411-1 in the A-5/A-6 because I just like that thing and the 22410 is too similar to the 22426 that we allready produced for the Bf110. Diversity is the spice of life.:bump:

[dswo]

There were many different artificials in use. The one in the screenshots is an Fl. 22411-1 which has the "stick" running horizontally into the rear of the housing, that's why it's not visible.
The A-8 for instance was more commonly seen with an Fl.22415 which had the turn coordinator attached in a more classical manner vertically at the bottom, running right through the horizont bar and the aircraft symbol.
Some A-5/A-6 have also been equipped with an Fl. 22410 which had the turn coordinator attached vertically, too. I decided to use the 22411-1 in the A-5/A-6 because I just like that thing and the 22410 is too similar to the 22426 that we allready produced for the Bf110. Diversity is the spice of life.

Beauty and scholarship, united in one thread. Tell me friends, is this not a great forum?

[kjb]

Now THAT is impressive! The attention to detail and modeling is amazing.

[JamesChams]

Very nice work. looking forward to the end-product! :wiggle:

[Mithrin]

Beautiful work!

[peter12213]

Can't wait!

[deimos256]

As a lifelong lover of the 190, that cockpit looks amazing, now you said #1 will be done at the end of the week, does that mean your first variant in the pack is done?

[Mathias]

now you said #1 will be done at the end of the week, does that mean your first variant in the pack is done?

Yes.
While there are minor changes in every plane of the whole lot there are three basic layouts:

- A-5/A-6 as shown in the screenshots.

- A-7/A-8/A-9 with a different main panel layout and some gauges added and moved around.

- Flugwerk A-8/N with modern "international" gauges

[Javis]

I'll put up a little video sometime next week (maybe) to show off a bit of the dynamic shine in the cockpit which really adds a lot to the immersion.

Please don't, Mathias, my jaw has already reached the floor... :jawdrop:
any lower and my head will come off... :isadizzy::pop4:


:applause::applause::applause::ernae:
Hals und beinbruch,
Jan

[JoeW]

Could you do one with MPH instead:icon_lol:
that looks Awesome:applause::applause:
Stunning
H

Well ..... Henery .... As long as it's got them little red marks on it ............ That be OK.

[Bjoern]

[QUOTE=Mathias;239200 Some A-5/A-6 have also been equipped with an Fl. 22410 which had the turn coordinator attached vertically, too. I decided to use the 22411-1 in the A-5/A-6 because I just like that thing and the 22410 is too similar to the 22426 that we allready produced for the Bf110. Diversity is the spice of life.:bump:[/QUOTE]

Field mods...a joy for the pilots, a PITA for the historians. :d

Just look at all the late Bf-109s. Tall tail, small tail, tall wheel, small wheel, Erla canopy, regular canopy, armor head plate, no armor head plate, new cowling, old cowling...

:isadizzy: :icon_lol:

[Nick C]

I have to say Mathias that your previous FW190A is one of my favourite planes in my sim and this version looks even better. I'm really looking forward to this being released.

It's perhaps not the correct place to ask, but is there any possibility of a little update on the Swordfish progress?

[Mathias]

I have to say Mathias that your previous FW190A is one of my favourite planes in my sim and this version looks even better. I'm really looking forward to this being released.

It's perhaps not the correct place to ask, but is there any possibility of a little update on the Swordfish progress?


Thanks much Nick, really glad that you like it.

As for the Swordfish.... man, that reminds me to fire up the web editor and update the pages.:173go1:
I've abandoned the Stringbag as I feel we better do with old German iron, that's where we have our knowledge and expertise.
I've passed on the source files to Skippybing so it'll eventually see the light of day as freeware sooner or later.

[Marvin Carter]

Mathias, you come a long way my friend!!!

[SirBenn21]

WOW DUDE!!!

:applause::applause::applause:

[Mathias]

Cheers guys!

One more shot for David, re the turn coordinator shadow.:engel016:

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/2009-8-28_2-27-10-778.jpg

[CodyValkyrie]

Kicking ass! I'll be buying it, for sure.

[Mathias]

Hiya guys,
just a bit more stuff to look at,
some VC shots and two A-8 Sturmjäger with extra side armor, one of them with "Scheuklappen", extra glas armor on the canopy sides. Both have the nose MG's stripped.
Unedited FSX screenshots except some cropping.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190_09-09-03_01.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190_09-09-03_02.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190_09-09-03_03.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190_09-09-03_04.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/fw190_09-09-03_05.jpg

[peter12213]

Lovely shots, lovely bird!!!:ernae:

[Barvan40]

Fantastic Mathias! :applause:

[deimos256]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG Im having a stroke over here!!!!! As I stated I'm a lifelong 190 fan, im also a serious VC fan and this thing is like a dream for me. I hope we get to see some realllyy rough paintjobs for these later variants, rudimentary markings, dirt, oil, patch jobs, rust. Oooooo I cant wait superb work!

[Navy Chief]

GASP!!! Unbelievable detail!!! NC

[Scratch]

That's just plain freaky in a very good way:kilroy:

[MudMarine]

Oh Ya! Oh Ya! Baby!......I think I just wet myself!!:icon_lol:

[tigisfat]

That's how every VC should look. We have had great offerings, and many not so great. Can you teach classes?:icon_lol:

[Mathias]

Here's some shots of the A-7/R2 pit.
New Revi 16 B gunsight and a somewhat simplified left console make the difference over the previous versions. The 12-Lampen-Gerät (gear/flap indicator) replaced by the 4-Lampen gear indicator and two simple mechanical indicators for flap position.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/2009-9-30_16-8-44-64.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/2009-9-30_16-9-44-836.jpg

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/2009-9-30_16-12-7-607.jpg


There's a lot more detail in the cockpit to be seen from the outside this time around.
Gauges and night lighting works also in the exterior model.

http://www.classics-hangar.de/vorschau/2009-9-30_16-40-46-341.jpg

[BananaBob]

Geeze Mathias, the VC is perfecto but that metal on the nose is perfect, the detail is amazing brother!! :applause::applause::applause:

[italoc]

Amazing !!!
Never seen such a perfection of details !!!! :applause:
How? when? where?
Italo

[mike_cyul]

Absolutely beautiful work. :applause:


Mike

[Henry]

Geeze Mathias, the VC is perfecto but that metal on the nose is perfect, the detail is amazing brother!! :applause::applause::applause:
I got to agree there:applause::applause::applause:
simply stunning!
H

[Mathias]

Geeze Mathias, the VC is perfecto but that metal on the nose is perfect, the detail is amazing brother!! :applause::applause::applause:

You're talking about "the bulge", the Mg131 cover in front of the canopy?
Yeah, that's a weird shape.
No surprise that the Flugwerk guys didn't get it right in their real world replica.:bump:
Thanks mate!

[Akatsuki]

Every new update amazes me more than the previous one.:medals:
Great work Mathias!:applause:

A bit OT but i'm looking for books on the FW190, any recommendations?

[Dougie]

"Gauges and night lighting works also in the exterior model."

As good as that sounds it really more of a gripe for me. Who needs working gauges in the external whenever you can texture them on nicely enough.

Although I do like working collimation so hats off for the gunsight :D

Dougie

[Mathias]

"Gauges and night lighting works also in the exterior model."

As good as that sounds it really more of a gripe for me. Who needs working gauges in the external whenever you can texture them on nicely enough.


Dougie

Because it comes at no cost.
The externally visible gauges are of course drastically polygon-reduced as compared to the interior gauges but use the same textures.
We actually save noticeably on drawcalls and texture loading time since we don't have to apply an extra sheet to the external stuff.

[Mathias]

Thanks again everyone, makes me really happy that our 'lil underdog's plane appears to be well received.




A bit OT but i'm looking for books on the FW190, any recommendations?

Well Josquin, there's unfortunately no such thing like the universal Fw190 book.
Particularly older literature, while often a good photo reference, tends to be prone to errors and miss-interpretions and at times pure phantasy on the author's side. Then you have the situation that one author copies from another and in no time is a myth turned into publically accepted fact.
The Kagero issues "Focke Wulf Fw190 Vol. 1 - 4" is a quite comprehensive rundown of the 190's version and unit history, though it repeats at times old errors in the version history.
"Focke Wulf Jagdflugzeug Fw 190 A, Fw 190 Dora Ta 152 H" by Peter Rodeike has loads of reliable and well researched info and photo-references on 444 pages. Drawback is a. the somewhat low quality print, b. the information is somewhat hidden within the many picture captions and c. AFAIK it's only available in German language.

[Dougie]

"The externally visible gauges are of course drastically polygon-reduced as compared to the interior gauges but use the same textures."

Yay, that's very good :D
One notable payware aircraft just has the gauges tetured on to a 4 polygon plane hehe

[Mathias]

One notable payware aircraft just has the gauges tetured on to a 4 polygon plane hehe

Well you can't please every blessed mother's son, hehe.
All I can say is that Roger would be dissapointed if I took them out again.:bump:

[Roger]

Well you can't please every blessed mother's son, hehe.
All I can say is that Roger would be dissapointed if I took them out again.:bump:

Absolutely:engel016:

[Roger]

Just thought I'd post this shot of the panel from vc but just outside. The realism is incredible and goes further than most to the goal of "willing suspension of disbelief" that all sims and games strive for. I just want to walk through the screen and strap in...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/190A5-5.jpg

[Bjoern]

Benchmark! :jawdrop:

[gajit]

yes Bjoern you are right :ernae:

[Roger]

Vc view from the starboard wing...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/A5betavc-4.jpg

[Roger]

It's nice to see that Radium glowing on the gauge needles and markers:applause:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/A5betapanel-1.jpg

[peter12213]

Amazing Roger mate how lucky are you getting to fly that wow cannit wait here!!

[Mathias]

As promised here's a little video:
http://www.classics-hangar.de/videos/Fw190A5_wip.wmv
Not the artistical video editing art that some of our resident video makers are able to do and the only music is the sound of the BMW 801. Hope you enjoy it anyway :wavey:

[N2056]

Man...I'm textless! :jawdrop:

[RudiJG1]

I bought Mathias' first 190 and love it...but this ratchets things up to a whole new level...simply spectacular and can't wait to fly it.:applause:

[MudMarine]

Me like!!:jump::applause:

[Akatsuki]

There's the word "soon" in that video!:engel016:

[CodyValkyrie]

Damn you.....


















... for making me wait!

[Panther_99FS]

Phew! :isadizzy: