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Cirrus N210MS
July 30th, 2009, 12:24
well here is Mine


Very soon ill try Get a New automatic rifle! :icon29:

SKS

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8347/dsc08063.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8646/dsc08062q.jpg

djscoo
July 30th, 2009, 12:30
Is the bayonet used for hunting?

Willy
July 30th, 2009, 12:48
Don't have one. I like the lever action rifles myself.

Drat, forgot the forums aren't letting us attach pics right now :banghead:

Cirrus N210MS
July 30th, 2009, 12:59
nope the bayonet is used for running threw people who brake into peoples homes if they get to close to you :173go1:


though i dot think they would get that close to you when ur shooting 122 grain hollow points eheh

Brett_Henderson
July 30th, 2009, 13:07
Ummm.. an SKS is a semi-automatic rifle ;)


They really are amazing weapons, for the price. Rugged, dependable, and reasonably accurate :jump:



Edit: I have what's suggested in this thread's title :monkies:

Cirrus N210MS
July 30th, 2009, 13:07
and here is my other automatic my little old ruger 10\22 with a military \ police sniper optics scope was from a M24 sniper rifle the scope was given to me by my uncles friend in las vegas

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/6913/dsc08196.jpg

you sure can see the target like it is right next to you :jump:

PRB
July 30th, 2009, 13:09
No automatics here either. But I do have these… :d

http://www.prbsystems.com/pics/guns.jpg

Cirrus N210MS
July 30th, 2009, 13:15
wow nice!

Lucky You WOW nice M1

pointy31
July 30th, 2009, 13:30
No automatics here either. But I do have these… :d

http://www.prbsystems.com/pics/guns.jpg


I recognize the one on the bottom, got the thumb to prove it...:ernae:

EMatheson
July 30th, 2009, 13:54
Largest calibur projectiles in my house are .177 BBs - and that was an earthquake when my father bought it for me, too!

PRB
July 30th, 2009, 13:55
Rgr "M1 thumb"... It hasn't bit me yet... Seems like that would hurt, as the bolt slams fwd with considerable force!

djscoo
July 30th, 2009, 14:36
Largest calibur projectiles in my house are .177 BBs - and that was an earthquake when my father bought it for me, too!
same here... I'd like a Dragunov someday though.

FlyTexas
July 30th, 2009, 14:49
Here's the only automatic rifle I've ever owned. :engel016:

Brian

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/FlyTexas/Maurader.gif

TeaSea
July 30th, 2009, 15:00
M1 Garand and an M1 Carbine....both of which I need to clean.

No bad thumb here either -- yet.

BurningBeard
July 30th, 2009, 15:12
I have some BB's around the house too, ranging from .32 cal to .58 cal.

Beard

mcjerkyls
July 30th, 2009, 15:42
Ive got two clones of HK rifles, the 91 (.308) and 93 (.223) gotta love roller locked goodness.

smoores
July 30th, 2009, 15:59
I've got a small .22 Winchester 74 long rifle, and an M-4

jkcook28
July 30th, 2009, 16:14
No automatics here either. But I do have these… :d
Nice ones Paul!

Some shots from 5yrs ago...I've added to the arsenal substantially since...:USA-flag:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jkcook28/1903A3/th_Firearms2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jkcook28/1903A3/?action=view&current=Firearms2.jpg)http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jkcook28/1903A3/th_Firearms3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jkcook28/1903A3/?action=view&current=Firearms3.jpg)http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jkcook28/1903A3/th_50Cal0051.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jkcook28/1903A3/?action=view&current=50Cal0051.jpg)

Willy
July 30th, 2009, 16:53
Carried around one of those 1903A3 Springfields in boot camp. Often thought about getting one just for old time's sake.

Ridge
July 30th, 2009, 17:24
No autos here, only semis :)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/GSG/family.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/GSG/9ve.jpg

GT182
July 30th, 2009, 18:16
Give me an old Winchester or Remmington lever action rifle any day. I'm sorry I sold my 1935 30-30 94 Winchester and 1100 Remmington before I moved here to DE. All I have now is the Mossburg 152 semi automatic .22LR I got for Christmas in 1961.

oakfloor
July 30th, 2009, 18:30
Thats all very nice, now try to buy some 7.62X39 ammo..

Willy
July 30th, 2009, 18:30
Gary, make mine a Marlin! In 44-40 preferably.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/zoom_1894_45colt.jpg

Drzook
July 30th, 2009, 19:04
I had an SKS for many years; it even had a bayonet. Nice rifle. I just traded it this year for a vintage S & W Model 10 revolver and got about what I paid for it in the first place. Not bad.
So my current guns are:

Ithaca .22 magnum lever action single shot (model 48 saddlegun)
Smith & Wesson Model 10-6 (.38 special, heavy barrel d/a revolver)
I also have a few airsoft guns as well that I use to teach my kids about gun safety and the occasional plinking in the basement (cannot do this with the S&W)

Donnybrooke
July 30th, 2009, 19:27
This thread reminds me of something several years ago. I was visiting the Frank Ryder WW1 Museum (that was located in Lake Guntersville, Alabama) in preparation to doing an article for a WW1 website. Frank Ryder and family were killed in an aircraft crash, and there was no one to take over the running of the business. The staff and executors were selling things off, and I wanted to see the museum one last time before it was completely gone. The people were very nice, and I took quite a few photos and bought a few of the paintings that were for sell (though the really "good" ones by Dietz, etc. were well out of my price range). As they were showing me around, they took me upstairs (where all the "nice" stuff was stored) and led me to a closet. Inside were two very nice and serviceable Spandaus. My guide told me that they really needed to find a buyer for these, as they did not have a license to own fully automatic weapons. Unfortunately, I could not help them, and I never mentioned this in the article. The ATF has some very long ears. :monkies: But enough time has passed now that I can mention it. :) Too bad I didn't have the license then...

Piglet
July 30th, 2009, 19:36
AR-15
Valmet M-76
FN FAL
SKS
SVT-40
M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
MAS 49/56

Contrary to poplular belief, the average U.S. citizen cannot legally buy full auto weapons, Nor can suppressors, sawed offs, or big stuff, like RPG's and bazookas, be had. So don't believe the movies and TV, or mis-informed politicians !:wavey:
Also got a bunch of bolt actions, handguns, a shotgun, and a lever gun.
Do I need more? No, the question is do I WANT more?

Ridge
July 30th, 2009, 19:48
Contrary to poplular belief, the average U.S. citizen cannot legally buy full auto weapons, Nor can suppressors, sawed offs, or big stuff, like RPG's and bazookas, be had.

Hate to do this to you, Piglet. But that is incorrect. Full autos and explosives are quite expensive, but sawed off shotguns/rifles can be had for $200 on top of the cost of the weapon...Supressors are rather expensive (between $300 and $1800)

http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq212/KAB12869/68LWRC003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/JoshSC/DSC_0146.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/Jimmy2Times/S1051883.jpg

Heck, my .22 is a sawed off rifle...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/GSG/Dsc_0001-1.jpg

FengZ
July 30th, 2009, 19:53
nice collection Ridge!

-feng

Ridge
July 30th, 2009, 20:09
Hah! I wish those were mine! My collection is at the bottom of page 1...

Wing_Z
July 30th, 2009, 20:29
Looking at the above, I'm sure someone can tell me:
1. What's the difference between a semi-automatic and an automatic?
2. How hard is it to convert a semi to automatic?
3. WTF would a civilian do with a fully automatic weapon???

Ridge
July 30th, 2009, 20:37
Looking at the above, I'm sure someone can tell me:
1. What's the difference between a semi-automatic and an automatic?
2. How hard is it to convert a semi to automatic?
3. WTF would a civilian do with a fully automatic weapon???

1. Semi-autos, 1 bullet is fired for each time the trigger is pulled. Autos shoot bullets until you let off the trigger, or the magazine empties.
2. Depends on the gun. AR-15s can be made automatic by dropping in a special piece of metal. However, that piece of metal runs about $16,000, and must be registered to you through the US Gov't.
3. Have fun, of course!!

th_FpwgGc-E

Cactuskid
July 30th, 2009, 21:45
OK, here's mine...

1. Aussie L1A1 SLR (FAL) (Lithgow 1968)
2. Colt AR-15 SP1
3. Bulgarian SA93 Pre-ban AK-47 with Soviet Type 3 furniture
4. Soviet SKS (Tula Arsenal 1951)
5. Inland US M-1 Carbine (All matching 1943)
6. International Harvester M-1 Garand (All matching 1953)
7. Polytech Legend Chinese Type 56 AK-47
8. US M-14 (built on Smith Ent. receiver)

I also collect US military shotguns and have a Win. 97 WWII take-down, a WWII Stevens 520, and a Vietnam issue Ithaca 37 (I carried one just like it in-country)

Ridge, Love the M-79's! I toted a thump gun occasionaly, but hated wearing that damn vest!

Tim, Ridge is correct... any law abiding US citizen can legally own a class 3 weapon. All you have to do is go through the ATF background check and purchase a tax stamp for each class 3 weapon.

FengZ
July 30th, 2009, 23:28
i only have a replica. :P Took these pics about 10 years ago....i have no idea where it is these days...somewhere in a garage i guess

http://www.fengzhudesign.com/fs2004/mp5_01.JPG

http://www.fengzhudesign.com/fs2004/mp5_02.JPG

http://www.fengzhudesign.com/fs2004/mp5_03.JPG

-feng

Piglet
July 30th, 2009, 23:46
What I meant was the average Joe can't just go to any gunstore, and say "gimme a machine gun, please."
I know about Title II guns and Class 3 dealers, and all the paperwork involved, and all that other stuff. Yes, it is legal to own such high speed stuff, but it's a long, involved process.
And if you live in a non-free state, like Kalifornia People's Republic, things get tougher.
And I got tons of airsoft, get em' while they're still legal!

Dangerousdave26
July 31st, 2009, 05:53
This is the only Fully automatic I have...

Feel free to step in front of it. :icon_lol:

0GAUnuuBkW4

Cazzie
July 31st, 2009, 06:12
None here, don't plan to go to war. Home defense is best done with a shotgun. Those I have, old Fox 12-gauge double-barrel, Winchester over-under 16-gauge double-barrel (a sweetheart of a pattern), and a Browning 16-gauge semi-automatic. Hope I never have to use any on a human being.

I collect CO2 and air rifles and pistols. Cheap and fun. Two are semi-automatic, both .77-caliber. They Sheridan .22-caliber air rifle is super for killing varmints like groundhogs and squirrels that get too close for my liking. For sorry birds like Starlings and Grackles, I use the .77-caliber rifles. I don't shoot Crows and Blue Jays though, had a pet Crow once. Funny birds, will mimic too if kept in captivity. Despise pigeons too, but they're not a problem here in the hinterlands. Shot a plenty for the City of Danville though. Really stupid birds, you can plink one and the one beside it will not flutter and you catch it too. Like an arcade with real birds. Always use air rifles, safer, wouldn't dare use a real rifle shooting pigeons or squirrels for the city. I even got the Danville PD to use air rifles eliminating pests. Told them they should hire me. :icon_lol:

Caz

Matt Wynn
July 31st, 2009, 06:15
Ahh my kind of thread :icon_lol: being British i don't own any rifles or pistols ('cept my old airsoft kit and my air rifles for sorting rats/mice out), but i will entertain you with a list of what i have fired....



H&K G3
H&K MP5A5/AG/SD6
H&K MP7
L1A1 SLR (Semi auto version of the FN FAL)
SA80A2
M16/203 (Wouldn't let me use the 203.... killjoys)
C8 Carbine (Licence Built M4 in essence)
AK47 (3 rounds, hated it, handed it back)
Sig Sauer P226
Sig Sauer P228
Browning HP
Accuracy International/Arctic Warfare L96A1
Accuracy International/Arctic Warfare AW50F
SVD 'Dragunov' (another i hated and handed back after a few shots)
Enfield No.4 Rifle
M1 Garand (firing this and the Enfield were a true joy)
M249PARA (Shorter M249)
GPMG (ok us British Forces guys, lets be correct it's the Gimpy 'jim-pee')


thats all i can think of for the moment, out of them all i'd have to say the L96 was my preffered Bolt, the MP5 preferred Fully auto/semi auto, and the P228 in the pistols :icon_lol: beggars can't be choosers so if i hear shots at the local range i go say Hi, and usually am lucky enough to get a few shots off :kilroy:

Terry
July 31st, 2009, 07:13
To those of you in the US. Have you considered there are three and a half years left of this administration? If you think the BATF can't backtrack the postings in this thread, think again! Be careful what you show them.

jkcook28
July 31st, 2009, 07:44
To those of you in the US. Have you considered there are three and a half years left of this administration? If you think the BATF can't backtrack the postings in this thread, think again! Be careful what you show them.


Living in Illinois, they are all on record as purchased anyway. FOID card sees to that. Plus, I have a Curios & Relic license issued thru BATF I must log each purchase too. They know what I have, it's all legal and until the rules change, I'm not worried. After the rules change the creativity begins...:icon_eek:

P.S. In the Peoples Republic of IL. Class III weapons are not legal. Unless you are grandfathered in prior to the ban back in 80-something or so. Even then you must apply for permission to take it somewhere, legally. Gov't for you.:kilroy:

GT182
July 31st, 2009, 08:30
Gary, make mine a Marlin! In 44-40 preferably.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/zoom_1894_45colt.jpg

That one will do just fine too Willy. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/GT182/Thumbup.gif :d

Ridge
July 31st, 2009, 09:20
:wavey:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/RPG.jpg

lefty
July 31st, 2009, 09:35
For those of us in slightly, er, how can I put this, gentler parts of the world, this thread is jaw-dropping.

If the Taliban ever get to Colorado, they are in for a tough time. I suspect, though, that all this Rambo weaponry will ultimately result in the demise of a few rabbits.

At least I hope so.

Ridge
July 31st, 2009, 09:49
Prarie Dogs are the primary victim of our offensive ;)

Matt Wynn
July 31st, 2009, 10:01
or in my case huns head/Q targets on the range, and pigeons and rabbits with the air rifle, rabbits are tricky critters to bag... slightest thing out of place spooks them, why i love my Ghillie suit, sit up a tree above their runs in a field, only problem then is you'll probably wake up a kestrel and boy it'll have an appetite and scare your targets off :icon_lol:

Matt Wynn
July 31st, 2009, 10:02
Prarie Dogs are the primary victim of our offensive

RPG for a prarie dog.... i hope you cluster them together score a multi-hit :icon_lol:

lefty
July 31st, 2009, 10:06
Rabbits? Must be a different breed over there. Here, even I used to hit 'em with an old .22, and none of your nancy-boy telescopes either !

Matt Wynn
July 31st, 2009, 10:12
ahh only time i use a scope is when i'm on the range behind the L96 or AW50F, i use a .22 ratcatcher for rabbit hitting, ratcatcher with a supressor, and the standard sights, only once or twice used the scope... but also have a bipod for it, rabbits don't know what hit em!

Willy
July 31st, 2009, 10:13
My Marlin in 44-40 is my all purpose gun. I use it on everything from tin cans to deer. The low power target ammo for the small stuff and the good ammo for large game.

Terry
July 31st, 2009, 10:22
Living in Illinois, they are all on record as purchased anyway. FOID card sees to that. Plus, I have a Curios & Relic license issued thru BATF I must log each purchase too. They know what I have, it's all legal and until the rules change, I'm not worried. After the rules change the creativity begins...:icon_eek:

P.S. In the Peoples Republic of IL. Class III weapons are not legal. Unless you are grandfathered in prior to the ban back in 80-something or so. Even then you must apply for permission to take it somewhere, legally. Gov't for you.:kilroy:

I was born in Illinois and left for Arizona in 74. They kept after me for a year or so in Arizona for moving the guns without a permit until they finally gave up.

I suspect within a couple years we will have to bury them to keep them.

Ridge
July 31st, 2009, 10:36
Illinois, D.C., NYC, Massachusetts and California...they are the worst offenders. I loved living in CA, but will never go back unless they start to respect human rights.

Henry
July 31st, 2009, 11:02
Ridge that somehow looks a little unfair even for a prarie dog
i could change your user name to Rambo
H

Ridge
July 31st, 2009, 11:23
Hey, prarie dogs had just as much time to develop shoulder-launched, rocket-propelled explosives as humans did...

Matt Wynn
July 31st, 2009, 11:29
well you can't really miss the little critters with an RPG can you, even if they don't get obliterated the concussive force'll do the trick! actuall it'd kill and partially cook at the same time.... great thinking Ridge!:icon_lol:

wombat666
July 31st, 2009, 13:27
or in my case huns head/Q targets on the range, and pigeons and rabbits with the air rifle, rabbits are tricky critters to bag... slightest thing out of place spooks them, why i love my Ghillie suit, sit up a tree above their runs in a field, only problem then is you'll probably wake up a kestrel and boy it'll have an appetite and scare your targets off :icon_lol:

A Ghillie Suit!
For Rabbits??????
You have got to be joking!!
:icon_eek:
I learnt to shoot rabbits with .22 Browing single shot bolt action 'gallery rifle', and 5 rounds allowed, no rabbits collected and all rounds expended earned me a thick ear!
We did use a 'Wookie Suit' in Bosnia ....... but that was different.

Matt Wynn
July 31st, 2009, 13:35
not just for rabits, i like to cast no human silhouette, which they can easilly attribute, used to have a CO2 air pistol, lie under the ghille downwind so they don't sense me weapon forwards get one inside 20ft night night bunny! at the moment my ghillie sees more use at airsoft than anywhere else, no1 likes tripping on a pile of leaf litter with myself and an airsoft P228 amongst it :icon_lol:

TeaSea
July 31st, 2009, 15:44
Looking at the above, I'm sure someone can tell me:
1. What's the difference between a semi-automatic and an automatic?
2. How hard is it to convert a semi to automatic?
3. WTF would a civilian do with a fully automatic weapon???


Well actually, mine are semi's. You can convert an M1 Carbine to full automatic (the M2 was an automatic version of the same rifle), but to do that to me would be like chopping up Magna Carta and using it for 3m sticky notes.

Obviously, your mileage may differ.

As for why you need an automatic?....well, why do you need a car that does more than 75 mph??

Roger
July 31st, 2009, 16:46
Never wanted to kill anything that didn't want to kill me and the urge to want guns left me when I was about 12. Still we're all God's creatures I suppose.

Roger
July 31st, 2009, 16:54
not just for rabits, i like to cast no human silhouette, which they can easilly attribute, used to have a CO2 air pistol, lie under the ghille downwind so they don't sense me weapon forwards get one inside 20ft night night bunny! at the moment my ghillie sees more use at airsoft than anywhere else, no1 likes tripping on a pile of leaf litter with myself and an airsoft P228 amongst it :icon_lol:

Oh dear, oh dear.
Good God man what has your life been like to want this?

mcjerkyls
July 31st, 2009, 17:38
It is documented that Yamamoto had advised against an invasion of the mainland United States, due to their being "a rifle behind every blade of grass". He knew this from his time spent studying at Harvard. Their was gun registration in nazi germany, and of course guess what people were banned from owning guns... I think we all remember what happened next. Not trying to spark political debate, just a friendly reminder...for every joan of arc, there is a hitler on the other end of the teeter-totter.

Matt Wynn
July 31st, 2009, 18:38
Oh dear, oh dear.
Good God man what has your life been like to want this?

summarised:
"a complete P*$$ take so far"

basically was born in Greece, nice and hot, then family thought it would be better for me in england, grey and rainy as we know, bad news i found a liking for weaponry while i was in the Air Training Corps (Spaceys :icon_lol:), found i could get 5 shots with a 22 inside the size of a 2p coin first time out shooting... things progressed a bit, fired my first L96 when i was 14 over 250 yards, hit the target second and third shots (first shot to check the scope) and the rest as they say is history... :icon_lol:

smoores
July 31st, 2009, 19:28
are grenades illegal yet?

Willy
July 31st, 2009, 20:19
are grenades illegal yet?

Just slightly illegal ;)

Ridge
July 31st, 2009, 20:24
Destructive Device. In addition to paying for it, you got to pay $200 each to the BATFE!

Wing_Z
July 31st, 2009, 20:27
...As for why you need an automatic?....well, why do you need a car that does more than 75 mph??

True...True...

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h200/CHARL_photos/SIlliness/HuntingBunniesinNZ.jpg

stiz
July 31st, 2009, 21:45
It is documented that Yamamoto had advised against an invasion of the mainland United States, due to their being "a rifle behind every blade of grass". He knew this from his time spent studying at Harvard. Their was gun registration in nazi germany, and of course guess what people were banned from owning guns... I think we all remember what happened next. Not trying to spark political debate, just a friendly reminder...for every joan of arc, there is a hitler on the other end of the teeter-totter.

and it was documented that the US didnt want to invade japan because everyone would fight to the last, guns or no guns and cause massive casulitles ....

PhilRamone
July 31st, 2009, 21:49
threads like these make me glad i no longer live in the U.S.

r678idtyj
July 31st, 2009, 23:10
threads like these make me glad i no longer live in the U.S.

I have to agree. Sooner or later, you always get the "why do you need that for, civvies don't neeeeeed those, they are eeeevil!" types to ruin the party. :icon_lol:

Ridge
July 31st, 2009, 23:12
Okay, so pop quiz. You prefer/are not allowed to have firearms.

Someone breaks into your home. What are you going to shoot them with!?

stiz
July 31st, 2009, 23:17
simple .. nothing ... you wouldnt have a gun to do it with jee ridge i thought you where clever ;) :icon_lol:

PhilRamone
July 31st, 2009, 23:25
Okay, so pop quiz. You prefer/are not allowed to have firearms.

Someone breaks into your home. What are you going to shoot them with!?


are you being serious?

what would you do? with the arsenal youre showing off they'd have you at gun point with your own gun in no time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uApZuZ6RPy4

Ridge
July 31st, 2009, 23:32
My arsenal consists of 1 rifle, 1 shotgun, 1 pistol and one .22lr range toy :)

I keep the handgun loaded somewhere close to me but not somewhere they can get to without waking me. The long guns are in a case, unloaded near my bed. The .22 is in a locked hard case under my bed.

PhilRamone
July 31st, 2009, 23:36
well with the way the world is seeing America at this time, i dont blame the paranoia

Cactuskid
July 31st, 2009, 23:41
Guys, to each his own. We are fortunate in most of the US to have the right to bear arms or not. I have friends in the UK and Australia who wish they had that right, but unfortunately not. I have friends here in the States who wouldn't touch a gun with a 10 foot pole, even thought they have the right to do so. Unfortunately, we also have a lot of disturbed people here who also have that right and many who have had that right revoked who are armed, which is why I choose to bear arms. I'd much rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it.

Peace :USA-flag:

Brett_Henderson
August 1st, 2009, 05:02
I'd much rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it.


:applause: :ernae: :applause:


The freedom to choose for yourself, which side of that statement will apply to you ..

:USA-flag:

TeaSea
August 1st, 2009, 05:24
True...True...

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h200/CHARL_photos/SIlliness/HuntingBunniesinNZ.jpg

LOL!!

My point exactly....note the threatening posture of the bunny....

TeaSea
August 1st, 2009, 05:46
Never wanted to kill anything that didn't want to kill me and the urge to want guns left me when I was about 12. Still we're all God's creatures I suppose.


I don't hunt either Roger. Never really liked it and I don't care that much for the taste of wild game (other than fowl) having been brought up on grain fed beef. Rather go fishing.

That being said, I do enjoy shooting. I've gone out with more than one person to the skeet range, who never previously saw the appeal, and made them into raving skeet lunatics in less than 5 minutes. Also,accurate shooting at stationary targets requires good physical conditioning, patience, experience, and practice, practice, practice. There's a Zen-like quality to it when you get in "the zone". One of the best shooters I've ever known was also a yoga instructor.

Another sport which admittedly, I don't do now, is biathlon. You run a cross country course rather than a skiing one, usually a 5 mile run, and every 1.5 miles the runner stops and engages a stationary target (in our case with a 9mm Beretta). Points are deducted from your running time for every target missed. This is loads of fun and we did it in my unit in Germany with our partnership unit in the Bundeswehr several times (they host one, we host one -- then we drink beer).

Everyone says they go out just for the fun, but about half way through this becomes incredibly competitive -- guys (and gals) throwing up on the track kind of competitive. :barf:

(I added that last part because I always wanted to use that smiley...but it is true)

stiz
August 1st, 2009, 06:25
I
Points are deducted from your running time for every target missed.

so you get rewarded for being a bad shot? :icon_lol:

familton
August 1st, 2009, 09:52
Phil I am sorry you feel that way but you are sure entitled to it. Glad you are no longer in the U.S. Regards, Bob.

FengZ
August 1st, 2009, 10:14
man, this thread must freak out people not living in the US! LoL.

i'm living full time in Singapore now, where it's illegal to own firearms. I've been telling them stories about living in Los Angeles, and how EVERYONE pretty much have a gun there.

It's interesting to live in a place where weapons are banned (even cops here have weak guns).

-feng

Panther_99FS
August 1st, 2009, 10:23
Let's keep it civil without upsetting folks......

That being said, what about knives? A lot of know that excellent French simulator artist Bruno Duffort is also a VERY ACCOMPLISHED knife maker

--> http://www.brunoduffort.fr/indexUS.html

stiz
August 1st, 2009, 10:36
thing with knives though is that their used for other things, their sole reason for being around isnt just to kill :engel016:

AckAck
August 1st, 2009, 10:50
I have a proton pack, in case they get the gun. I just flip it on and say, "Why worry? I just have an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on my back," and they edge away slowly to the other side of the elevator and ...

Wait, maybe that doesn't happen. :running:

Brian

AckAck
August 1st, 2009, 10:53
thing with knives though is that their used for other things, their sole reason for being around isnt just to kill :engel016:

Guns are far more often used as a deterrent than an actual weapon. Just like nuclear bombs.

Now swords - that's kind of like a knife, but with only one purpose. Except for spreading jam, of course.

Brian

Henry
August 1st, 2009, 11:34
Guns are far more often used as a deterrent than an actual weapon. Just like nuclear bombs.

Now swords - that's kind of like a knife, but with only one purpose. Except for spreading jam, of course.

Brian
hey it cuts bread great:applause::applause:
Deja vue
we have had similar threads just vanish:pop4:
it all comes down to the person
who has the responsibility not the weapon itself
i have no guns myself but i have pretty mean dogs
if someone came to my house
my personal take
a gun collector is like a guitar collector
we all like objects
this is a www and different laws come into play
in different countries
so be nice and understand some of us can collect and others cannot
H

Willy
August 1st, 2009, 11:36
Bruno does make some very nice looking knives.

Most shooting I do now is at cans and stuff. If the deer get in my father in law's vegetable garden I will go up there to clear them out and get some venison for the freezer though.

At one time I was into Civil War re-enacting and still have some of my old guns from that. Then I was getting into Cowboy Action Shooting, but after a few rounds with the "costume nazis" I gave up on that although it is a lot of fun when people who can't shoot straight aren't pinging on you about your boots. So now it's mostly putting 44 caliber holes in tin cans.

viking3
August 1st, 2009, 12:41
Another sport which admittedly, I don't do now, is biathlon. You run a cross country course rather than a skiing one, usually a 5 mile run, and every 1.5 miles the runner stops and engages a stationary target (in our case with a 9mm Beretta). Points are deducted from your running time for every target missed.

I participated in a similar exercise while in the Canadian Forces, where we would start at the 600yd hill on the range, fire 5 rounds, run up 100 yds to the next hill and adopt a different firing position fire 5 rounds, jump up and run forward 100 yds. and adopt a different position to fire and so on up to the 100 yd. hill. We were judged by both accuracy and time so it was a real challenge to move as fast a possible but maintain steady breathing and shooting discipline.
We were using the FNC1 which I really liked even though it was a heavy sombitch. It could be converted to a full-auto with a file, and of course we had the FNC2 which was a fully auto version of the same rifle with bifold legs. Lot's of punch in those 7.62 NATO rounds.

Regards, Rob:ernae:

Mâra Trilokadev
August 1st, 2009, 14:31
Beretta CX4 in 9mm, Vector Arms AK-47, and a Lucznik Wz88 Tantal.

Wing_Z
August 1st, 2009, 14:44
...We were using the FNC1 which I really liked even though it was a heavy sombitch. It could be converted to a full-auto with a file, and of course we had the FNC2 which was a fully auto version of the same rifle with bifold legs. Lot's of punch in those 7.62 NATO rounds... Regards, Rob:ernae:
Heh the FN was a tight-tolerance weapon, which meant that in most of the real scenarios around the world (=dust, heat, condensate, sand) it was all but useless and jammed if you as much as looked at it.
And if you were stupid enough to do the mod and make it fire fully-auto, chances were it would kill you because the barrel would overheat, distort, and create a blow-back :d

I'm surprised no-one has come up with one of the greatest bits of engineering ever produced in the 20th century, product of Mikhail Kalashnikov:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h200/CHARL_photos/SIlliness/ak47.jpg

This thing could go through sandstorm, blizzard, river and sea, and still go on doing that which is the primary function of any automatic weapon: kill people, lots of them.

Cactuskid
August 1st, 2009, 15:08
I'm surprised no-one has come up with one of the greatest bits of engineering ever produced in the 20th century, product of Mikhail Kalashnikov:

This thing could go through sandstorm, blizzard, river and sea, and still go on doing that which is the primary function of any automatic weapon: kill people, lots of them.

You need to go back and read through this thread again Wing... I own two of them! :kilroy:

Wing_Z
August 1st, 2009, 15:26
Oops sorry there it was, item 7.
How d'you get a licence for a thing like that?
And tell us, what is it you do with this baby?

Ridge
August 1st, 2009, 16:24
Let's keep it civil without upsetting folks......

That being said, what about knives? A lot of know that excellent French simulator artist Bruno Duffort is also a VERY ACCOMPLISHED knife maker

--> http://www.brunoduffort.fr/indexUS.html

:isadizzy: You want to keep it civil, then you bring up Bruno Duffort?

MudMarine
August 1st, 2009, 16:29
No automatics here either. But I do have these… :d

http://www.prbsystems.com/pics/guns.jpg

hehe Looks like my collection except add: (2) K98 Mauser's, M1 Carbine, STAG AR-15 w/aimpoint, M1A1 Thompson, 1898 Winchester pump shotgun, Remington 870, India pattern Brown Bess. I won't get into the pistol stuff!

PS No AK's.....I've fired them before and I think they're junk, my opinion, but then again I was only a four time Marine rilfe expert and rifle team member what do I know?! :-)

PPS WWII auto weapons I've fired.....I don't own any auto's myself: B.A.R (all time favorite), all models Thompson, 1918 .30 cal and .50 cals, MP40, MG42, MP44, auto M2 Carbine (Korean war), most rare weapon I've fired is probably the M1941 Johnson .30cal rifle, not many people have fired that one.

Piglet
August 1st, 2009, 21:08
Didn't the USA gains its independence from England with firearms? The most advanced firearms of the day?
Notice that no one in this whole thread said that they wanted to kill people, or cause mayhem, yet we own tons of weapons? Guess we're not THAT bad!
Firearms are one of those interests that either you understand, and like, or you don't. Either way I hope your gov't allows a choice.

TeaSea
August 2nd, 2009, 05:21
In general, I believe folks can discuss things at SOH for a longer period of time before one of us accuses the other of being a Nazi.

You have heard that the longer a given thread goes on, the closer we all get to being Nazi's!! :mixedsmi:

wombat666
August 2nd, 2009, 06:08
Heh the FN was a tight-tolerance weapon, which meant that in most of the real scenarios around the world (=dust, heat, condensate, sand) it was all but useless and jammed if you as much as looked at it.
And if you were stupid enough to do the mod and make it fire fully-auto, chances were it would kill you because the barrel would overheat, distort, and create a blow-back :d

I'm surprised no-one has come up with one of the greatest bits of engineering ever produced in the 20th century, product of Mikhail Kalashnikov:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h200/CHARL_photos/SIlliness/ak47.jpg

This thing could go through sandstorm, blizzard, river and sea, and still go on doing that which is the primary function of any automatic weapon: kill people, lots of them.

Access to weapons for me of many 'interesting' types is more or less unlimited, thanks to my 'part-time' employer ........... :kilroy:
Could not agree more about the above, we hated our SLR 'Mechanical Muskets' with the same amount of venom as the M16!

The Kalashnikov was our (unofficial) weapon of choice, particularly for SAS Insertions and Recon Ops in Viet Nam.
Never ever had one give up on anyone in my squadron and we never ran short of ammunition .... with only 11 moving parts it was ideal.
Same applied in Bosnia, as long as they were the old heavier calibre, not that woosie little 5.5 round.

FWIW, full-auto weapons are not and never have been issued on a large scale to the average member of the PBI in the ADF.
We Aussies can't afford the cost the ammunition and replacing the burnt out tubes.
:mixedsmi:

Matt Wynn
August 2nd, 2009, 09:39
M16 is commonly misconcieved as a bad design, but you keep that guy on semi-auto and she loves you... SLR is a sumb!tch, weighs a fair bit and loves jamming up if you so much as breathe on it let alone go on ops in a cold wet environment... it really doesn't matter what you own as long as you're responsible with it, only use it for say range days and not terrorising... i'm in the category of people that wish the UK had what the US has and the right to bear arms, most kids nowadays think you hold a pistol sideways, like to see them aim and shoot straight like that, instead of the Weaver stance or modified weaver... anyways back on topic... only 1 weapon i would love to fire again... the MP7, next to no recoil, compact yet surprisingly stable and a round designed to penetrate boday armour, mind you the AW50F could penetrate body armour given half the chance, anyways on an off note whats the longest shot you've made using either a)Iron Sighted rifle, or b)telescopic sight mounted rifle? and what rifles were they, reason i ask is that i am intrigued to hear first hand 'reports' over ranges (never trust the owners manuals)...

viking3
August 2nd, 2009, 10:51
The FNC1 was heavy and prone to jam, and would leave a pretty good bruised cheek if you didn't have the gas return set right:173go1:, but for just playing on the range I found it to be pretty accurate. At 300yds I could group 5 shots in 6 inches on the bullseye which I thought was fair to middlin. Any further than that the groupings were not so good. At 200 yds we would shoot out the 2x4s holding up the targets just to piss off the poor buggers in the butts. Guys used to shoot at the pointer sticks when they would try to show you where you shot:kilroy:. Good thing we were just a bunch of aircraft mechs playing grunt as the 'Base Defence Force', I would hate to have gone into action with some of those GIJoes and that heavy old FN.

TeaSea
August 2nd, 2009, 13:11
Hmmm,

about to get into the M16 vs AK47 discussion.....these are almost religious in nature and there are rarely any winners....

So, I"ll plunge right in!! :wavey:

AK-47 is an excellent design, robust, cheaply manufactured, and easy to learn to fire. It also has a relatively low muzzle velocity of some 2300 feet per second, it's inaccurate beyond 200 yards, and it's weight with ammunition makes it a beast (in my experience rifles without ammunition are not effective).

M-16 is also an excellent design, robust when maintained properly, costs a bit more than the AK, easy to learn to fire, accurate on a point target out to 500 yards, and it's lighter with ammunition (lot's more ammunition) than the AK. It's muzzle velocity is over 3000 feet per second, so that tiny little 5.56 round does a LOT of damage.

Having fired and carried both in the field, I would have to call my self an "M-16 man" (particularly the M4 variant -- I retired before the A4's became prevalent) . It's just more accurate and in my opinion a better all around tool. I also find it telling that given a choice, former Communist countries will select the M-16 over the AK-47 for their own armies. The Iraqi's were particularly insistent that the M-16 replace the AK-47 in the emerging Iraqi military.

I will have to defer on the FAL as I have no personal experience with the rifle other than one instance of range familiarization. I found it to be a fine weapon at the time, but having never had to carry one around....

Several folks I know collect AK-47's and the variants. There's also a guy in the neighborhood here who collects Japanese weapons from WWII. He has converted a part of his house to the collection (alarmed room). He must have hundreds. These are all operational and are of museum quality. I asked him why Japanese weapons, and he had a pretty good answer....they were the cheapest firearms available at the time he started his collection!

Snuffy
August 2nd, 2009, 13:38
I don't need an automatic rifle to put out a hail of lead ... I use a single shot and usually hit with the first ... :bump:

Piglet
August 2nd, 2009, 17:02
Ahhh the ol' AK-M16 debate.
Got an answer to that.
The Valmet M-76. AK-type action built to Western standards. Good fit and finish, well designed sights, and just looks cool! Too bad Valmet doesn't make em anymore. Got mine on sale in the early '80's.
Semi auto only, which suits me just fine. Full auto is fun, but can get real expensive to shoot and own, even if Kalifornia law allowed it.


thing with knives though is that their used for other things, their sole reason for being around isnt just to kill

Same with my firearms, used for range work, plinking, sport, but never killed anyone.

RickN
August 2nd, 2009, 22:41
Saiga 7.62x39 is my main semi-auto rifle. An AK action sort of sporterized and more accurate then a standard AK. Comes with 10 round mags but I also have some 20 rd mags or it can be easily modified to use standard AK mags. Below is a pic of mine.

I am planning on buying one of the 12ga versions soon. It is comes with a 5 rd mag but you can get 8,10,12 round mags or a 20 round drum.

stiz
August 3rd, 2009, 02:22
Same with my firearms, used for range work, plinking, sport, but never killed anyone.

knive = invented to make cutting of things easier
gun = invented to kill stuff in the quickist way

but as you said, you either like it or dont and the argument is never ending :engel016:

txnetcop
August 3rd, 2009, 02:43
Hey Stiz when I hunt here in Texas I have a sidearm with me at all times. Several times it has either saved me or a friend from a trip to hospital or maybe even death. We have more rattlesnakes and cottonmouth water moccasins than you can shake a stick at...thank God for guns. It really is difficult to hit them with a knife ya know what I mean?
Ted

stiz
August 3rd, 2009, 03:34
dont get me wrong, i'm not total anti gun, and i admit they have their uses like any other tool, but there just isnt need to have em in the house and buyable at a store like percripstion drugs (if you have the paper work you can pretty much get what you want), nor is there a true need to have the lastest near mil spec semi automatic rifle with nvg scope and silencer or a 50 cal sniper rifle ... to shoot a sodding tin can.
:kilroy:

RickN
August 3rd, 2009, 03:56
Knives were invented to make cutting things easier. Other humans and food were the first things and they were later used for cutting other things, but as a weapon and for hunting was the first uses.

Firearms evolved the same way. First for war and hunting, later for target practice, plinking and sport.

As for a need for them in the home, it all depends on if you are wanting to defend yourself and family, or expect others to do it for you. In a country were it can take up to half an hour for the police to arrive in some locations, you are better off planning on protecting yourself.

Matt Wynn
August 3rd, 2009, 03:59
oh i agree Stiz... in a way, for plinking tin cans an air rifle or a BB Gun will do just fine, but to shoot a tin can at a mile (and further) yer gonna need a 7.62 or .50, there is a need for a semi auto, silenced mil spec rifle... in the military, mostly. only rifles you can get nowadays here in the uk are .177 and .22 and are air/co2 powered, or airsoft BB guns. amazing Stiz shows the diversity of humanity, both of us being Brits, both 21 yet the viewpoints are miles apart... half an hour, f**k that i'd mount an M60 on the stairs, teach the wife and kids about the G3 and then watch a burglar try it and so much as fire 1 shot, then watch him/her get taken down (alive still preferably,let the justice system earn its keep)... they fired first therefore returning fire is allowed. here in the UK you're lucky if the police even turn up sometimes, they usually are back at base doing paperwork! is it just me or should police be both pro-active AND re-active, simplified they are out and about while others do paperwork on their behalf at base, and leaving them more time to be out 'on the beat' or reporting to calls...

redriver6
August 3rd, 2009, 08:12
as long as they were the old heavier calibre, not that woosie little 5.5 round.

one of the things i have discovered with the AR platform is that it is extremely easy to convert to different calibers...which is why i just ordered one of these....

DPMS Barrel AR-15 7.62x39mm Russian Heavy Contour 1 in 10" Twist 16" Chrome Moly Matte with Front Sight Pre-Ban

http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=764881

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Wing_Z
August 3rd, 2009, 12:18
one of the things i have discovered with the AR platform is that it is extremely easy to convert to different calibers...which is why i just ordered one of these....
DPMS Barrel AR-15 7.62x39mm Russian Heavy Contour 1 in 10" Twist 16" Chrome Moly Matte with Front Sight Pre-Ban
http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=764881
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You bought...a STICK??
with a convenient carry handle?
Come to think of it - no calibre problems there, alright :d

peter12213
August 3rd, 2009, 12:47
oh i agree Stiz... in a way, for plinking tin cans an air rifle or a BB Gun will do just fine, but to shoot a tin can at a mile (and further) yer gonna need a 7.62 or .50, there is a need for a semi auto, silenced mil spec rifle... in the military, mostly. only rifles you can get nowadays here in the uk are .177 and .22 and are air/co2 powered, or airsoft BB guns. amazing Stiz shows the diversity of humanity, both of us being Brits, both 21 yet the viewpoints are miles apart... half an hour, f**k that i'd mount an M60 on the stairs, teach the wife and kids about the G3 and then watch a burglar try it and so much as fire 1 shot, then watch him/her get taken down (alive still preferably,let the justice system earn its keep)... they fired first therefore returning fire is allowed. here in the UK you're lucky if the police even turn up sometimes, they usually are back at base doing paperwork! is it just me or should police be both pro-active AND re-active, simplified they are out and about while others do paperwork on their behalf at base, and leaving them more time to be out 'on the beat' or reporting to calls...

Yeah its really takes the mick trying to be a weapon owner in the uk, making us paint replicas red..I say no way so heres mine!!
sorry the photo quality is bad but it was off my old phone, I can only dream of owning some of the real kit you guys have in the US!
As for the Police smoothie your right they never turn up when you actually need em but if your driving 5 mph over the limit they soon find you the B*stards!
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1095/dsc00042lig.jpg

I have more but no pics as yet. Ignore the maglite also lol my gun lamp broke on that occasion!

Henry
August 3rd, 2009, 13:06
Hey Stiz when I hunt here in Texas I have a sidearm with me at all times. Several times it has either saved me or a friend from a trip to hospital or maybe even death. We have more rattlesnakes and cottonmouth water moccasins than you can shake a stick at...thank God for guns. It really is difficult to hit them with a knife ya know what I mean?
Ted
that is correct you dont need to be hunting either
mind you i dont own a gun i get the wife to go first:icon_lol:
There is a large difference between the UK and the US
regarding guns i actually had some in the UK
and none in the US
here if i have one for protection i best be willing to use it
or i will be shot myself
in the UK chances are i will never need one for protection
and im talking about someone attacking me with a gun
lots of drive by shootings here
when was the last drive by in the UK?
H

Jagdflieger
August 3rd, 2009, 13:16
My duty weapons are a full auto M4 A1 carbine and the M9 semi-auto pistol. Over the years I've been issued or have used the M-14, M-16A1, M-16A2, M-60 MG, M-240 MG, M-249 SAW and the M-21 and M-24 sniper rifles as well as the old war horse Model 1911 pistol.

My favorite weapons are old Army rifles and I shoot these all the time when not deployed. I reload my own ammo (replicating the issue 50/70 and 45/70 loads) for them and I've shot them all the way out to 1,000 yards with very good accuracy. Believe it or not, the latter versions with the 1879 and 1884 patern sights are calibrated out past 2,000 yards and are adjustable for deflection (windage) too.

Here are my rifles made between 1870 and 1888.

peter12213
August 3rd, 2009, 17:45
that is correct you dont need to be hunting either
mind you i dont own a gun i get the wife to go first:icon_lol:
There is a large difference between the UK and the US
regarding guns i actually had some in the UK
and none in the US
here if i have one for protection i best be willing to use it
or i will be shot myself
in the UK chances are i will never need one for protection
and im talking about someone attacking me with a gun
lots of drive by shootings here
when was the last drive by in the UK?
H

thats very true your much more likely to be stabbed that be shot in the uk!
When I was in the army my weapons I used to get issued were the L7 GPMG, our version of the FN MAG or your m240
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/imgs/l7a1.jpg
and the L86A2 LSW which is a very accurate weapon, pulls to the left during full auto firing which is a good thing sometimes, its also extremely light!
http://www.wolfarmouries.co.uk/airsoft/bb/bin/image-lib/products/AEG08.jpg

OBIO
August 3rd, 2009, 18:23
I sold my firearms nearly 20 years ago....places to shoot and places to hunt became harder and harder to find and I got tired of fighting rust on my guns from them sitting around being unused.

I had the following:

Mosin-Nagant Model 1891 Infantry Rifle, built in 1901. Got it for $65 at a small gun shop out in the country. Had about half of the original bluing on it. Was a blast to shoot. The cheap ammo, from Czeckoslavakia, had corrosive primers...so I didn't shoot that stuff. The good ammo had none corrosive primers, but set me back nearly $20 for 7 rounds. I made sure to get maximum enjoyment out of every shot fired.

1916 Spanish Mauser: Found this rifle at the same gun shop I found the Mosin-Nagant. Set me back about $100. Had been rebored and rechambered for .762 NATO (.308 Winchester) by an company in Florida that dealt in ex-military foreign firearms (Sun Valley, Sun Tech, Sun somethingorother). Was a very accurate rifle. I had plans to have it drilled and tapped for a scope, but sold it before I got that done.

Winchester Model 94 lever action, 30-30: The newer Model 94s were a hit or miss purchase, in that you either got a really good one or a really bad one. Mine was middle of the road I suppose. Took quite some time to get the sights drifted enough to make the rifle passingly accurate. This was the only rifle I purchased new, and was the most disappointing.

30 Carbine. Funnest rifle in my arsenal. Light, accurate, cheap to shoot...could buy a box of 50 rounds by Olin for $7. It had a tendency to stove pipe rounds....turns out it had a chip in the bolt rail/guide. Took it back to the gun shop where I bought it (same one were I got the Mosin and the Mauser) and the guy fixed it for free. I got this rifle for the astonishingly low price of $45.

Daisy .22 long rifle. Yes, Daisy. It was a cute little gun with black synthetic stock. Bolt action. Very very stiff bolt action at that. Had a 10 shot rotary magazine. Was intended to be shot by small people (youngsters, like my niece and nephews), but the butt stock could be extended a bit to be shot by bigger people. I used this rifle to teach my niece and nephews to shoot (after having them on a number of spring and air rifles first).

Winchester Model 70, 30-06. Got this rifle when I was 12. I spent 2 weeks working on this milk farm, shoving up every bit of poop that the cows dropped. There was some viral/bacterial thing going on and part of the preventative was to keep the manure cleared out of the pastures. Also painted one of the barns. When it came time for pay, the farmer was strapped after two weeks of daily vet visits and treatments for a couple hundred head of milk cows. So, he asked if I would take the Winchester as payment. Had a nice scope on it, military style sling. And he threw in a few boxes of ammo. I was 12, was offered a high powered rifle with bullets....I took it as payment without hesitation.

Remington 870 Slug Master. Deer slayer extraordinaire. Camo stock, matte black finish. 4x power scope. This gun put a lot of meat on the table.

Dan Wesson 44V revolver, .44 magnum. 10 and 3/4 inch heavy under lug barrel. Combat grips, hammer, trigger and sights. Had an Uncle Mike's shoulder holster to carry this monster in. 4X scope. Was a blast to shoot. My neighbor hand loaded rounds for me at a fraction of store bought. With the long, heavy barrel, recoil wasn't all that bad to deal with.

Colt 1911 .45 pistol. Highly modified with a 6 inch barrel and slide, combat grips, hammer, trigger and sights. Had some extended clips for it, with 10 shot capacity, but they were not all that reliable....the guy I got the pistol off of modified the clips by taking two normal clips, cutting and welding them together and reworking the springs...and I think it was the springs that were the weak areas.

I ALMOST bought a couple SKSs, and would have if the place would have taken checks....my best friend was in from the US Army on leave, we went with this aunt and grand parents to a smorgas board place (all you can eat for $4.00). After eating, the aunt and grand parents went shopping and my friend and I took a walk. Found a gun shop, went in, and they were packing up to go to a gun show. Opened a crate and there were 2 brand new SKSs, with the triangular bayonets. Neither of us had much cash on us, my friend had his check book, but since his bank was in Texas (federal bank that his military pay went into), they would not take his check. His aunt would not write a check for guns (she was anti-gun, anti-hunting).

There are times that I miss my firearms.

OBIO

ckissling
August 3rd, 2009, 18:32
I wonder if all the anti-gunners like, Handgun control are paying any
attention to all of this. Even going as far as copying the posts and so
on???????? ckissling

redriver6
August 3rd, 2009, 18:34
You bought...a STICK??
with a convenient carry handle?
Come to think of it - no calibre problems there, alright :d

nah i already got a stick:pop4:
http://www.boomspeed.com/redriver6/2871STICK16.jpg

Piglet
August 3rd, 2009, 18:55
I wonder if all the anti-gunners like, Handgun control are paying any
attention to all of this. Even going as far as copying the posts and so
on???????? ckissling

Nah, they got their hands full with all the gun/gunowner sites out there. They're prolly not smart enough to think of a flightsim site as a place for gun talk.
Or they're off getting sticking their noses into some other areas of human activity!:173go1:
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Wing_Z
August 3rd, 2009, 19:04
nah i already got a stick:pop4:
http://www.boomspeed.com/redriver6/2871STICK16.jpg
LOL...a telescopic model no less.
I am outgunned :kilroy:

redriver6
August 3rd, 2009, 19:16
LOL...a telescopic model no less.
I am outgunned :kilroy:
:icon_lol::icon_lol:

peter12213
August 3rd, 2009, 19:18
I keep one of those in my car..just in case lol, there now illegal in ENgland, just like everything else fun!!

Marvin Carter
August 3rd, 2009, 19:22
Not a Auto, but can stoot the freckles off a nats ass at 100 yards, and have the awards to prove it.I have many Autos but this one you have to make count first time around, and my favorite one!!!! Was going to say something but will be good.
http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss241/Marvin-56/DSC00786.jpg

RickN
August 3rd, 2009, 20:18
It is getting harder to find safe places to shoot, but there is a local gun club with a very nice range, our farm for plinking, and I am a very happy camper since I found out last week that they are building an indoor pistol range right around the corner from my house. The wife even is tickled about it and let me order a new reloading press to keep us in ammo.

My old press still works but we wanted something a little faster and went from a single stage to a turret press. I will keep my single stage for fine work but the new press will turn out more loads while letting me keep the control I like.

Moparmike
August 3rd, 2009, 22:12
While I personally don't mind the shooting threads, I think the Other Hobbies forum is a better place for them in Newshawks. Carry on! :)

As for my own gun locker...
The only semi-auto rifle I currently own is a 597 Remington .22LR.
I have owned several SKS variants back when the Chinese import ammo was dirt cheap. I wouldn't mind picking up a good Yugo SKS again just to say that I've got one.
The rest of my long guns are bolt action rifles and the lone 870 Remington.

wombat666
August 4th, 2009, 00:32
It is getting harder to find safe places to shoot.

Try Iraq.
:kilroy:

Ridge
August 4th, 2009, 08:56
Okay, now for some automatic rifles:applause:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/stupid/kitchen2.jpg

peter12213
August 4th, 2009, 09:03
Try Iraq.
:kilroy:

Yeah or Afghanisitan

TeaSea
August 4th, 2009, 11:48
Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt, used it to wax the car....

RickN
August 5th, 2009, 08:53
Try Iraq.
:kilroy:

Already been there. They would not let me shoot.

Canberra Man
August 20th, 2009, 09:50
In the UK when I did my National Service in the Royal Artillery, we only had the Lee Enfield SMLE. I got my marksman with it! We actually got pay for it. Then when I was demobbed from the army, I joined the Royal Air Force, I got my marksman again,but you don't get paid for it in the RAF. Then,years alter in 1960, I joined Air cadets as a Warrant officer and there I managed to train the air cadets on the SLR 7.62, a very nice weapon. Though I still liked the Enfield.

Ken

Ridge
August 20th, 2009, 09:59
Enfields are a great weapon...a while back I saw a SMLE at a pawn shop several miles away...I was too tacticool at the time to appreciate it, but would not mind a good bolt action nowadays...

3/7charlie
August 20th, 2009, 10:38
I will not admit to owning any firearms, as here in the great white north, fire arm ownership is veiwed as evil, and a sign of grave psychological pathology. Especialy-GASP- military arms.
I learned my craft on the FN C1 and C2. Still my all time favorite combat rifle. Proper 7.62 instead of that silly little varmit plinker they issue nowadays. Wood and steel furniture, so if you
had to butt stroke some silly bugger, he would stay down, and you still had a servicable rifle, something you cant do with these plastic popguns. I allways thought that if the job is to hurt people and break things, why on earth muck about with a toy round like 5.56.
Had some barmy jerk of a taxi driver blow through a road block once. ( the sappers were getting rid of some UXB) Put 2 rounds(AP) through the rad of that Mercedes at 70 or so meters, and stopped that sucker in his tracks. Not a scratch on the dumb ass behind the wheel. Destroyed the rad, water pump, knocked a big chunk out of the block and dislodged the front of the crank. When faced with the same situation today, the guys have no choice but to dump 30 round through the windscreen.( Why do they charge road blocks?) Fabrique National all the way.

But of course, I would NEVER own one


:engel016:

Ridge
August 20th, 2009, 11:16
Fabrique National all the way.

Sorry, what was that about pop guns?:kilroy:
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3984/p90q.jpg

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3/7charlie
August 20th, 2009, 11:25
The P-90.great for personal defence,and vehicle crews.
Popgun. no penetrating power. No stopping power. Would it make a hole in a BTR or a BMP?
No. The Rangers in Moug found out that the 5.56 would not penetrate mud brick walls.Hence the re-emergance of the SAW in 7.62.
5.56 is a great plinking round, or varmit round. Thats all .222 is. Now, if you want to reach out and touch some one at any more than 50 meters, and make the buggers eyes water, don't reach for 5.56
The C1 is robust, reliable,accurate, and,( this is important in this application) intimidating. It looks mean. Yeah, Its heavy, and so is the ammo, and you cant carry as much of it as 5.56, but 2 or three rounds of 7.62 gets the job done, where 8 or 10 rounds of 5.56 might or- might not. And I like the kaBOOM a C1 makes.


Gun control- hitting what you aim at!

Ridge
August 20th, 2009, 11:58
Gun control is using both hands :)