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wombat666
July 9th, 2009, 02:19
FOTA teams stage fresh walkout

Wednesday 8th July 2009

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<!-- /storybox --> The future of Formula One is again "in jeopardy" after the eight members of FOTA walked out of a meeting with the FIA.
Just two weeks after peace appeared to have broken out in the wake of FOTA's threat to form a breakaway series, the battle lines have seemingly been drawn again.
The latest dispute centres around the legality of the eight teams' entry into next season's world championship, and voting rights in relation to the technical and sporting regulations.
The furore follows a meeting of the FIA's Sporting Working Group chaired by Charlie Whiting, the FOTA eight - Ferrari, McLaren, BMW Sauber, Renault, Toyota, Red Bull Racing, Toro Rosso and Brawn GP - as well as Williams, Force India and the three new teams in US F1, Campos Meta and Manor Grand Prix.
A statement issued by FOTA read: "Representatives of all FOTA teams attended a meeting of the Sporting Working Group at the Nurburgring today.
"During the course of this meeting, the team managers were informed by Charlie Whiting of the FIA that, contrary to previous agreements, the eight FOTA teams are not currently entered into the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship and have no voting rights in relation to the technical and sporting regulations thereof.
"It will be remembered all eight active FOTA members were included on the "accepted" entry list as endorsed by the FIA World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) and communicated by FIA press statement on June 24.
"In light of these claims, the FOTA representatives requested a postponement of today's meetings.
"This was rejected on the grounds no new Concorde Agreement would be permitted before a unanimous approval of the 2010 regulations was achieved.
"However, it is clear to the FOTA teams that the basis of the 2010 technical and sporting regulations was already established in Paris.
"As endorsed by the World Motor Sport Council and clearly stated in the FIA press statement of June 24 'the rules for 2010 onwards will be the 2009 regulations as well as further regulations agreed prior to April 29, 2009'.
"At no point in the Paris discussions was any requirement for unanimous agreement on regulations change expressed.
"To subsequently go against the will of the WMSC and the detail of the Paris agreement puts the future of Formula One in jeopardy.
"As a result of these statements, the FOTA representatives at the subsequent Technical Working Group were not able to exercise their rights and therefore had no option other than to terminate their participation.
"The FOTA members undertook the Paris agreement and the subsequent discussions in good faith and with a desire to engage with all new and existing teams on the future of Formula One."
In their own statement, the FIA put it more bluntly as they said: "Following the decision of the World Council on 24 June to revert to the pre-29 April version of the 2010 F1 Sporting and Technical Regulations, the FIA today met the teams which have entered the 2010 championship to seek their agreement to these changes.
"All changes have now been agreed subject only to the maintenance of the minimum weight at 620kg and the signing of a legally binding agreement between all the teams competing in 2010 to reduce costs to the level of the early 1990s within two years, as promised by the FOTA representative in Paris on 24 June.
"The eight FOTA teams were invited to attend the meeting to discuss their further proposals for 2010.
"Unfortunately no discussion was possible because FOTA walked out of the meeting."
The walk out has again thrust F1 back into an unsavoury spotlight at a time when the sport finally appeared to be getting its act together after weeks of feuding.

Cazzie
July 9th, 2009, 11:40
Yep, getting a bit silly now. Using soap opera trying to save everybody's arses.

Caz

demorier
July 10th, 2009, 01:17
Yeah, didn't get to excited about the "peace process", had a pretty good idea somebody would start anoughter mud slinging match. I'll wait till they all stop being stupid before I take to much notice of any of them.

wombat666
July 10th, 2009, 02:29
Bernie, Bernie, Bernie ........................!!!!:173go1:

"Bernie Ecclestone has found himself in even hotter water today after comments he allegedly made to reporters. According to the Daily Mail, the FOM Chairman reacted angrily to being informed that the World Jewish Congress had called for his resignation.
‘It’s a pity they didn’t sort the banks out,’ he is quoted as saying by the Mail.
‘They have a lot of influence everywhere,’ he added.
The sinister nature of Ecclestone’s reported comments – which come days after a furore over his Hitler remarks – will not go down well with German companies ahead of this weekend’s German Grand Prix at the Nurburgring. A number of high-ranking German officials have called for Ecclestone not to attend the event because of his words in recent days.
The row surrounding Ecclestone does not bode well for the future of the sport either. The existing management – Ecclestone and FIA President Max Mosley – was already seen to be anachronistic. But teams with squeaky-clean brand images cannot afford to be associated with a condonement of Adolf Hitler, especially if – like BMW and Mercedes – they are German. Rumours that are probably unfounded have linked the German teams to a boycott of the grand prix on Sunday in protest at Ecclestone.
But a spokesman for Germany’s Central Council of Jews called for teams to abstain from working with Ecclestone nonetheless.
‘No team should work with him any more – a boycott would be more than appropriate.’
Such problems add to the conflagration surrounding the new rules, which the FOTA teams are not allowed to help construct until they submit unconditional entries. The FOTA teams believed they had overcome this particular hurdle with the Paris agreement last month, but that does not appear to be the case."

Time to go!!

Ferry_vO
July 10th, 2009, 07:16
Time to go!!

Straight to the nuthouse...!

Though I'm beginning to see why he and Max get along so well.... :kilroy:


BTW According to rumours former rally driver and member of the European parliament Ari Vatanen is the favourite to follow up as president of the FIA when Max sods off..

Naismith
July 10th, 2009, 11:01
Seems to me that certain people think they have egos that are bigger and more important than the sport which they purport to represent. If they are not careful they will destroy F1.

demorier
July 10th, 2009, 17:35
We have ways of shutting you up Bernie.