CH Late Fw190A WIP and Quizzy

[Mathias]

Here's some shots of the late Fw190A currently in production at the Classics Hangar. These are completely unedited shots, no color correction, no cropping, no sharpening.
Textures are still in the paintshop and about to receive some finishing touches.
Let's combine this with a little quiz and see how many Luftwaffe experts we have around here. :wiggle:
So what is the exact subversion shown in the shots, inclusive "R" or "U" designation if you think it has one, and also tell why you think it is what it is.
One entry per person, the first who gets it right will receive the final product for free or alternatively, a free copy of the allready released early Variants (if you don't allready have them). No hints will be given, 95% right is 100% wrong.
Fire away Lads! :icon_lol:

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[VFR Alexander]

A-6/u10

[Steven190]

The Pitot tube is not far enought out, needs to be at the wing tip for later versions.

A6 R3
30 mm outer cannons

How about a

FW190A5/U11

I don't have my reference books so I am guessing. It has the engine spacers for the D-2 engine

[VFR Alexander]

The Pitot tube is not far enought out, needs to be at the wing tip for later versions.

A6 R4
30 mm outer cannons

Is that meant for me or him? :isadizzy:
Or, now, an A-7/R2 or R3.


Ha, last edit.
A-7 R2/R3.

[Mathias]

:bump:

I should add this is not an easy one, lot's of nonsense coursing around about this plane, esspecially in older literature and at the www. :-)

[Mathias]

Boahh guys! You keep editing your posts like mad, eh?
Again, one entry per person, tell why you think it's what you believe it is, and please no post editing. :-)

[VFR Alexander]

Last one:
A-7 R2/R3

A-6 and A-7 have the rings under the fuse, while the A-7 has the depleted ammo strap on the wings, and the R2/R3 variants are the only logical ones since I can see that it doesn't have 6 cannons as the A-7/R1 would have.

[Mathias]

:isadizzy: Alexandrer, one entry per person, that was allready your third. :monkies:

[Z-PurpleBubble]

The A-7 R2/R3

[Wulf190]

Mathias, this is a sneaky one. I had to do a double take. My limited English sources don't say very much about it (much less on the various field and factory conversions), and I may even be reading bad info on it.

This is a very rare type, not many of them were produced( my source says around 80), and can be easy to misidentify.

Its a Fw-190A-7 R-2.

It has two 13mm machine guns rather then the lighter 7.92mm of the A-6 and earlier variants. This would continue on in to the later types.

It also has the FuG 16YZ DF radio loop under the rear fuselage that was on Fw-190s from the A-5 forward.

The A-7 retained the Pitot tube in the same position as the earlier types.

Now as far as the R-2 field kit. The kit provided one Mk108 30mm cannon in each wing outboard of the Mauser 151/20 20mm cannon. Each Mk108 replaced the outboard cannons and each Mk 108 had 55 rounds each.

Now the real clincher to the type would be if I could have had a closer look at the gun sight. My source states that the A-7 started using the Revi 16B gunsight.

[GBrutus]

Well an outer-wing armament of MK108s and the position of the pitot tube suggest this is a Fw 190A-7/R2. Have a feeling I'm only 95% right here though...:icon_lol:

[GBrutus]

Wulf190 for the winner me thinks...

[Mathias]

Mathias, this is a sneaky one. I had to do a double take. My limited English sources don't say very much about it (much less on the various field and factory conversions), and I may even be reading bad info on it.

This is a very rare type, not many of them were produced( my source says around 80), and can be easy to misidentify.

Its a Fw-190A-7 R-2.

It has two 13mm machine guns rather then the lighter 7.92mm of the A-6 and earlier variants. This would continue on in to the later types.

It also has the FuG 16YZ DF radio loop under the rear fuselage that was on Fw-190s from the A-5 forward.

The A-7 retained the Pitot tube in the same position as the earlier types.

Now as far as the R-2 field kit. The kit provided one Mk108 30mm cannon in each wing outboard of the Mauser 151/20 20mm cannon. Each Mk108 replaced the outboard cannons and each Mk 108 had 55 rounds each.

Now the real clincher to the type would be if I could have had a closer look at the gun sight. My source states that the A-7 started using the Revi 16B gunsight.

That would be the correct answer except that there's currently proof for some 701 A-7's being build but that is irrelevant. It's an A-7/R2. Congratulations Wulf! I'll get to you by pm.
Alexander has hinted at it before but is out since it took him three posts and a lot of editing plus claiming R2/R3 is too vague. :-)
Correct also on the Revi16 gunsight. The Revi12 in the shots is a leftover from the older versions which is awaiting replacement with the correct type.
The bulged upper gun cover identifies the 13mm Mg131 which was used from A-7 onwards. The A-8 had the pitot tube relocated to the wingtip so we have an A-7 here.
The outer wing cannon with a short barrel, the blister on top of the wing and the shell ejection hole just inwards of the lower access panel identify the R2 Mk108 Ruestzustand

[GBrutus]

Congrats, wulf190.:applause: