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OBIO
June 19th, 2009, 13:04
As many of you may already know, my wife, Deb, had a very large tumor removed from her brain last August. Still on the mend and doing rather well considering the size of the tumor. In mid-April, her employment with the hospital she worked at ended due to her not being able to return to work by that date...and thus, at the end of April her insurance coverage ended. We were told that we could continue her coverage under COBRA for $502 a month, which was more than we could afford, regardless of how much sacrificing we did.

Then, come the middle of May, we get a package from the insurance company stating that President Obama signed into law the ARRA (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act) and that Deb may be eligible for a government subsidy that would reduce the monthly COBRA premium by 66%...down to $164 a month. For a few days, we read and reread the paperwork, crunched numbers again and again. Then we sent in the paper work to see if she was eligible for the subsidy.

Then comes the first week of June and we receive an evelope with payment coupons showing the monthly premium of $163 and some change. About this same time, we find out that Deb's monthly disability insurance pay will be reduced by $400, that she is being sued by a credit card company for a card that she did not have (turns out her ex-husband had gotten the card using her information without her knowing about it) so I had to scramble and set up a payment plan to prevent the seizure and auction of what little personal property we do have to pay the balance, setting up payment plans for a number of outstanding medical bills not covered by her insurance....basically our income for the month went down $400 while monthly expenses went up by roughly $500.

We tighten our belts even more, somehow manage to cover all our monthly expenses and still have a bit of money left over for groceries...but no money to buy Deb anything for her birthday.

Then today we find out that the payment we sent in for June's insurance was not actually for June...it was for May and that we still have to send in another $164 for June's premium. What the insurance company did not clearly spell out in the paperwork, and that according to them they are not allowed to clearly spell out, is the fact under ARRA, we have to pay the monthly premiums beginning when normal insurance coverage ended, which was April 30. So, unbeknownst to us, we had to pay May's premium, even though we did not know for sure that Deb qualified for the ARRA subsidy until the first part of June, did not receive any payment information until the first part of June.

So, know we are faced with the fact that:

A) we sent in $163 and some change to pay for a month of insurace for a month that had ended before we even sent in the payment.

B) we have to somehow manage to pull another $163 and some change out of thin air and send it in to pay for June's coverage.

And just when you begin thinking that for the first time in history the US Federal Government has done something to benefit the average, working class American....you find out they have actually just found another way to bend you over the barrel and stick it to you.

OBIO

Rami
June 19th, 2009, 13:09
Obio,

Keep the faith, and contact your politicians, even State Senators. I had to pull out these "big guns" to help my dad dealing with this.

Remember, politicians are vote-whores, and are willing to help a supportive voter in need. It makes them look good!

gera
June 19th, 2009, 13:13
Amigo, I appreciate what you tell us and hope your wife gets well soon. I also hope things start to get better on your economy.....sadly those who think that government works for the people today usually get those surprises. In the latter part of the XX century governments all over went sour or worst and that´s how things apparently will be for a very long time. The less government you have the better you will be anywhere. You can see this on the news everyday everywhere......

Navy Chief
June 19th, 2009, 13:36
OBIO,

I am so, so sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope you are able to get help soon. The past presidential election put me over the edge. So much so, in fact, that I no longer watch ANY tv news, or listen to any news on the radio. I am clueless to what's happening - both locally and internationally. I prefer it that way.

I don't trust anything coming from the govt. anymore, period. All politicians, in my book now, are dishonest.

I pray your wife gets better, and your financial troubles improve, my friend.

NC

gera
June 19th, 2009, 13:56
OBIO,

I am so, so sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope you are able to get help soon. The past presidential election put me over the edge. So much so, in fact, that I no longer watch ANY tv news, or listen to any news on the radio. I am clueless to what's happening - both locally and internationally. I prefer it that way.

I don't trust anything coming from the govt. anymore, period. All politicians, in my book now, are dishonest.

I pray your wife gets better, and your financial troubles improve, my friend.

NC

Hi Navychief......its like that all over man, I go to my second country, Italy, every year and things are worse there every time, here, if this new government we elected on May 3rd does not comply with its promises and starts to clean up and jail a bunch of crooks we will elect a "dictator" or worse next time!!!!!! look Paraguay´s "new Dude"---he was a Bishop for some 12 or so years, jumped the church about three years ago, started a political party, won the elections-----Now get ready for this!!!!....three or four months being Presidente....Four Women have sued him since he is the Father of their sons!!!!..the guy admits it....then Two more women show up with two more kids saying " Oh daddy, Presidente"!!!!!!!!!!.......now he does not admit the last two and a whole DNA scandal is going on!!!!...Mamma Mia!!!!!!!! look at the Koreans and the Japanese, two of their late Dudes commited suicide for otherwise Jail was in their future!!!!!...this business of Goverment is becoming a scary Joke!!!!!!!...then a few nights ago I see a "Presidente" kill a fly while in an interview!!!!!!!..Circus man!!! Circus....and all the rest of the people in "Hotel Rut"!!!!!!!!!.....have some wine!!!:guinness::isadizzy::pop4:

Brian_Gladden
June 19th, 2009, 14:05
she is being sued by a credit card company for a card that she did not have (turns out her ex-husband had gotten the card using her information without her knowing about it)

That is identity theft... Plain and simple. Collect all the information and forward it to the local police and or state's/district attorney's office.

You shouldn't have to pay that bill due to the fraud. If they insist, counter sue the credit card company along with the ex-husband. Get your local legal aid to help.

Also, don't hesitate to ask for help from your local service organizations.

It takes some pride swallowing but any port in a storm.

Also get in touch with the cancer society. they have emergency funds set aside for situations like this.

I know from experience due to going through it all last winter with my girlfriend.


Brian

OBIO
June 19th, 2009, 16:15
Fortunately, and unfortunately, my wife's tumor was not cancerous...so any aid through the American Cancer Society is out.

The credit card...we are pretty much stuck with it. The card was obtained while my wife was still married to the crack head, and since it was not contested during the divorce, Deb is now legally stuck with the debt. As far as proving who obtained the card originally, that is a dead end. The debt has been sold so many times that finding out who the original card company was has proven to be impossible. Once I ran into four brick walls and realized that we were boxed in with this thing, I took the only action that would prevent the seizure and auction of our small pile of personal property that is worth anything....made arrangements to pay the debt off.

OBIO

gigabyte
June 19th, 2009, 17:21
Fortunately, and unfortunately, my wife's tumor was not cancerous...so any aid through the American Cancer Society is out.

The credit card...we are pretty much stuck with it. The card was obtained while my wife was still married to the crack head, and since it was not contested during the divorce, Deb is now legally stuck with the debt. As far as proving who obtained the card originally, that is a dead end. The debt has been sold so many times that finding out who the original card company was has proven to be impossible. Once I ran into four brick walls and realized that we were boxed in with this thing, I took the only action that would prevent the seizure and auction of our small pile of personal property that is worth anything....made arrangements to pay the debt off.

OBIO

Obio, I am not sure if this is avaliable in the US but check around, if you have a local Better Business Bureau or some like group close by, they often offer Credit Counselling Services, in Canada it is called OPD Orderly Payment of Debt, (or something like that) they will act on your behalf and structure the repayment and most of the time will get interest and or penetlays reduced or sometimes even waved, if you are lucky (and your case sounds like it would qualify for "Hardship" consideration) you could even get the initial debt reduced and only have to repay a portion of the total. The other thing that occurs to me is if the collection department is not able to prove who originally obtained the card and verify that it was actually legitmately the responsibility of your wife, how could they get an order of seisure and sale. A credit specialist would be able to advise you on that but it does not sound right to me, if they can't prove the original applicant and ownership they probably should not be able to seize property to satsify the debt? I am not saying you will get anywhere but it never hurts to do some checking.

On the other issue of the insurance, did you have any "out of pocket" medical expenses in May, if they demanded the premium you should be sending in receipts to get reimbursed for those and it may even give you a wash out of the premium?

Best of luck to you and you wife.