Milton's Dash-7 status

[Paul K]

Milton, can you or a member of the team, or anyone here, advise me as to the current status of this model, with regards to FSX Accel, SP1 and 2 ? I had it ( and loved it ) for FS9, and last time I looked, some updating was being done. However, I have completely lost track of its progress or useability in FSX.

Any information would be gratefully received.

:ernae:

[Milton Shupe]

Hi Paul,

The de Havilland Dash 7 is awaiting textures and a few cleanup items for FS9. There is no FSX native version but I will make the gmax source available for anyone who wishes to convert it. Sorry that I do not have the resources to run or build for FSX.

Thank you for your interest.

[Matt Wynn]

ooooh Milton, thats a stunner can't wait... gonna have to go grab the older one and paintkit and set to work... after i finish current task anyways...

[Reddog]

That will work just fine in FSX,w/sp1 that is:applause:

[peter12213]

yeah that really looks good Milton! That cabin looks great
:applause:

[Paul K]

Milton, thanks very much for your reply. I am pretty much hooked on FSX now, and FS9 rarely gets an outing, so its an aircraft I sorely miss, along with many others by yourself and other developers.

While I have your ear, I thought I would post these...another aircraft you are very familiar with. They were taken at last year's Flying Legends airshow at Duxford, just down the road from here, and as far as I know, she is the only one in the UK.

Anyway, all the best to you Milton, and thanks for the terrific models. :ernae:


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/Geomitrak/IMG_1995.jpg


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/Geomitrak/IMG_1999.jpg


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/Geomitrak/IMG_1997.jpg

[Roger]

Paul,
I take it you're aware that the Spartan has been converted to FsX by M. Allen Richards

http://fsnorthwest.net/index.php?ind=downloads&op=section_view&idev=3

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/spartanxg-1.jpg

[Milton Shupe]

Whoa Paul ... nice bump mapping on that Spartan Executive :d

Thanks for sharing ... great pictures.

[Paul K]

Paul,
I take it you're aware that the Spartan has been converted to FsX by M. Allen Richards

Oh blimey, no I didn't know that, Roger. I'll be interested to see how successful the transfer has been. Thanks very much, you've given me a good excuse not to do other things this weekend !

:ernae:

[Roger]

You have to join to download and you'll see there's Milton's Howard too. Some of my favorite repaints are uploaded here under my name as one of the texture files in each repaint needed a little surgery.

[Paul K]

Roger, I've registered and downloaded, installed and flown it. It was like meeeting up with an old friend, and I'm amazed that the existence of an FSX SP2 adaptation had slipped under my radar.

I've tried downloading your textures from here, but on clicking the 'download now' link I keep getting a 404 error message. Any idea why that might be happening ?

Regards

Paul

[Roger]

I've tried downloading your textures from here, but on clicking the 'download now' link I keep getting a 404 error message. Any idea why that might be happening ?

Regards

Paul

You're right Paul,
I'd guess that it needs resetting by admin. I'd pm maybe Henry, Panther or Willy.

[Paul K]

Thanks Roger, I'd very much appreciate that. Its great to have the Spartan back!

[n4gix]

Paul,
I take it you're aware that the Spartan has been converted to FsX by M. Allen Richards

http://fsnorthwest.net/index.php?ind=downloads&op=section_view&idev=3



Is it available anywhere else? I'm not "authorized" to download from there...

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

Now that is most certainly more welcome than a new tie for Father’s Day! , it was my favourite aircraft for FS9 and will be a most pleasant way to cruise the Tongass Fiords , Many thanks for this to both Uncle Milton and Allen Richards .<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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I will need to inform the Review Team at Avsim that it's available,the Spartan Executive gets my vote as the pinnacle of Milton’s outstanding career .<o:p></o:p>
C.Jodry, Managing Editor Avsim.com<o:p></o:p>

[Roger]

Is it available anywhere else? I'm not "authorized" to download from there...

I don't think it is Bill but joining the site is simple enough.

[Roger]

Still one of the nicest vcs in the business:applause:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/Spartanxx-1.jpg

[Milton Shupe]

Thanks everyone. That VC cockpit and cabin area is the artwork of a great texture artist, Urs Burkhardt. His textures are so very realistic looking. He really made the Spartan Executive ... executive-like for the era. Scott's panel and gauges really compliment the appointment.

[Paul K]

Milton, as one of the admins here, is it possible for you to rectify the problem I'm having downloading Roger's texture updates for the FSX Spartan ?

The file name is:

spartanfs9_to_fsx_texture_update.zip

I keep getting that 404 error message when I click the download now link. I have a feeling quite a few people will be after that file now the existense of the SP2 model is more widely known.

Thanks for your help.

[yago9]

Great models..Here,s one that I made for Fs9 and lost in my old computer crash.If a FX version is available i may have to redo it .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/yago9/bas.jpg

[swimeye]

Just for your information, i have sent a PM to Henry about the file error.

[Paul K]

Just for your information, i have sent a PM to Henry about the file error.


Thanks very much, Swimeye ! :ernae:

[Paul K]

Great models..Here,s one that I made for Fs9 and lost in my old computer crash.If a FX version is available i may have to redo it .


Yago, if it comes about, and you do another BAS paint, I'll send you all the photos I have of her. I daresay you can never have too much reference material when repainting. She saw out the Antarctic winter at Duxford a couple of years ago...same airfield as the pictures of the Spartan earlier in the thread.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/Geomitrak/Dash01.jpg

[Milton Shupe]

Great models..Here,s one that I made for Fs9 and lost in my old computer crash.If a FX version is available i may have to redo it .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/yago9/bas.jpg

That looks like the version I still have for the original FS2002 release ... did you do that awesome texture?

[yago9]

That looks like the version I still have for the original FS2002 release ... did you do that awesome texture?

Realy ? You did a photo texture for this one also ? Great,post a shot so I can see the uncanny resemblance..No need to redone mine then..Cheers!

pS.
wait, are you talking about the model only, the texture or both ?

[gera]

This model is one of FS "Classics", I modified it somewhat and still fly it to do some Hurricane hunting in FSX with it´s NOA texture.......absolutely a classic.:applause::applause::applause:

[Henry]

Just for your information, i have sent a PM to Henry about the file error.
it seems that it is still missing
a corrupt file on our back up
Rog can you re upload
H

[Roger]

Yes H,
I'll reupload tonight. Would you pm me my upload password etc as I appear to have lost it, as I only ever used it the once?

Cheers,

Roger.

[Henry]

Yes H,
I'll reupload tonight. Would you pm me my upload password etc as I appear to have lost it, as I only ever used it the once?

Cheers,

Roger.
i dont have it:kilroy:
check with Douglas
H

[Milton Shupe]

Realy ? You did a photo texture for this one also ? Great,post a shot so I can see the uncanny resemblance..No need to redone mine then..Cheers!

pS.
wait, are you talking about the model only, the texture or both ?

No, it is a texture that was done for the original Dash 7v1 back in 2002-3. I do not recall who did it but it should be at Flightsim.com.

[Roger]

Okay,
I've reuploaded the modified Spartan repaints and should be available when Douglas turns them on.

Cheers,

Roger.

[Paul K]

They are available now; just downloaded them. Thanks, Roger . :)

[yago9]

No, it is a texture that was done for the original Dash 7v1 back in 2002-3. I do not recall who did it but it should be at Flightsim.com.

Nope,not at Flightsim...Pls post a shot if you have it to see if is any resemblance..wich I doubt deeply.

[Milton Shupe]

Here ya go ... :)

[warchild]

One huge favor i would like to ask of anyone updating the dash 7 for FSX is "Please dont touch the FDE?" it flies incredibly well in FSX with SP/2.. Making any changes to the flight model in my opinion would just be plane criminal..
Thanx..
Pam..

[yago9]

Here ya go ... :)


Thx for the effort . Ok!!..So those two to be confused as one ? If they do ,i,m a thief and you cought me red handed..:icon_lol:

[Milton Shupe]

LOL no, Ed Knapp I think did one but I can't tell if it is this one. The two are actually quite different. Look at the tail textures.

[yago9]

lol..and the engines,and the fuselage and that one is photoreal when the other is not..Anyway ,not much substance other than this shot..lost it for good.

[Wild Bill Kelso]

Just in case you FSX hogs missed this one:

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/wildbillkelso_berlin/dhc7_tindi_fsx.jpg


Just uploaded to flightsim and the Outhouse (FS2004 section).

This repaint was also tested in FSX SP1 and seems to work quite well with it (besides the usual gauge issues...).
Thumbnail and altered 'spinprop_t.bmp' texture (recommendation by Milton) included.

Cheers,
Markus.

[CG_1976]

See the neighbor thread for the sp2 spinprop_t.bmp.
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=22424&page=4

[Wild Bill Kelso]

These two are out now too:

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/wildbillkelso_berlin/cc132001_4.jpg



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http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/wildbillkelso_berlin/cc132001_6.jpg


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Available at SOH too (link below).

Has anyone tested them with SP2 / Acceleration?
I wonder if there are any issues?

Cheers,
Markus.

[Berlopez]

I have installed the Dash 7V2a in my FSX SP2 installtion, Fixed the props.textrs.( Thanks Milton) For the file.

...But I am experiencing weird behavior with the Dash.

Everytime I load and fly it my graphics go haywire: I loose all textures, clouds and ground, form every view :isadizzy: I have to reload the sim and start a new flight. This only happenes with the Dash 7. Though I have a few addons installed.

...And I still have the issue with some gauges that don't load or get accepted. I managed most of them. But I still get when choosing the Dash:Aoaind;Lear-45.Radio...And then when the plane loads:Lear-45.Radio

Do I have the right Dash/ version for FSX SP2?,Or should it be:D/VCMDLA? Downloaded the d7vcdal_u And installed. All the gauges showed up again. I guess the replacement of the Aircraft.cfg is at fault here. Took her for a short flight and ...Again the graphics went haywire...

Thanks.

[CG_1976]

I report no issues related to the FIP paint just a prop adjustment provided by Milton, no panel issues, only a annoying red light disco show in the VC.

[Milton Shupe]

Not sure what version you have but here is the link from my site for the FS9 version with all updates applied:

http://www.flightsimonline.com/downloads/d7vcmdla.zip

[Mobayrasta]

Earlier in this thread Milton said he does not have the resourses to developep for FSX. If that means he needs a new computer and he would develop for FSX I would gladly chip in.

[Berlopez]

Hello Milton: Thanks for the link. I downloaded a new file.It was the same I was using. Same issue with the gauges. i had managed to edit out HGHB_ALTWARN_LIGHT...

Now with the new file all the '98 gauges show again. I also downloaded and tried the file d7vcmdla-update-2 ( Which as it says in the read-me has not been tested in FSX...Didn't work for me either)

And I can't find them all, not even in the .gau (zip) files; I wonder if anyone could share a panel.cfg that is already fixed?

[Milton Shupe]

Earlier in this thread Milton said he does not have the resourses to developep for FSX. If that means he needs a new computer and he would develop for FSX I would gladly chip in.

Thank you but not necessary. That is very kind.

I have since upgraded and can run FSX beautifully now. :jump:

[Milton Shupe]

Hello Milton: Thanks for the link. I downloaded a new file.It was the same I was using. Same issue with the gauges. i had managed to edit out HGHB_ALTWARN_LIGHT...

Now with the new file all the '98 gauges show again.

And I can't find them all, not even in the .gau (zip) files; I wonder if anyone could share a panel.cfg that is already fixed?

I do not have that gauge in my panel.cfg ... attached.

[Berlopez]

Hello Milton: thank you forthe panel.cfg. I inmediately got on to installing it...:jump:...Along with other fixing I have had to do to my installation of the Dash 7 in my FSX SP2.

Went on to load and all the gauges '98 came up again :confused:...obviously with a new .cfg file that hasn't been edited. So I went on to edit it again...Found the HGHB_ALTWARN_LIGHT [vcockpit+02] gauge02 and [window03] gauge00 I put two(//) in front. But I cannot find any of the other gauges anywhere.

aoaind
PJD Hydraulic Pressure (shows twice.)
Lear-45.Radio ( Shows also twice).
HGHB-ALTWARN_Light or ALTALERT

I checked the .cab files and s earched all over FSX and computer...
:monkies: I'm lost in this install. Where can they be?

[Milton Shupe]

I posted my panel.cfg out my FSX SP2 ACCEL Dash7v2a folder.

Maybe you need to update your .cab files.

http://www.flightsimonline.com/downloads/ST_Dash.CAB

http://www.flightsimonline.com/downloads/annun.CAB

Put these into your Panel folder.

[Berlopez]

Thanks Milton! Just did that. Noticed though, I didn't have any .cab files in my panel folder????...So I just downloaded them from the links above and pasted in the .cab files. I didn't unzip them. Still I got the messages,when I loaded up the Dash for:aoaind and Lear-45.Radio.( Comes up twice) Again I did a visual search through the panel.cfg and the .cab files, and FSX gauges folder.Didn't find anything. Didb a search in th enet regarding this and someone wrote that the gauge was located:[window01] gauge 31 and again [default view] gauge00; But I suspect this later one is for Fs9 as I do not have a default view section in my panel.cfg

[falcon409]

Berlopez, I had that problem only on the initial installation of the Dash7, once I moved the two cab files to my panel folder and moved Milton's cfg file into the panel folder to overwrite the original all was well. It actually gives you a very nice set of radios now and the 98' gauges are gone.

[Milton Shupe]

Be sure to remove those old cab files from where ever you had them.

I moved teh Dash 7 into my FSX SP2 ACCEL setup just 2 weeks ago. The only issue I had was the prop texture. But, I always put all gauges in my panel folders.

[Wild Bill Kelso]

Sorry, I have to get back to the spinprop issue again:

A FSX user of my yellow repaint just wrote to me

...However the props when running appear to be see through. I installed the spin_prop-t file in the DC7 but they still look alike.

Milton, you posted in the FS2004 thread:


I'll try to attach the spinprop.bmp here for you to copy to each of your texture folders. (Basically, all I did to the alpha was reduce it to 15,15.15)

That's it.




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Now I'm a little confused: :isadizzy:
Did I get it right to change the alpha channel of the spinprop.bmp (not spinprop_t.bmp) to a RGB value of 15/15/15?
That's quite dark/lucent...

What did you successful FSX/SP2 users do to get the props whirling?
(Too bad I can't test it here on my own...).

Or am I currently a little mind-blocked :redf: ?

Thanks in advance,
Markus.

[falcon409]

. . . .Did I get it right to change the alpha channel of the spinprop.bmp (not spinprop_t.bmp) to a RGB value of 15/15/15?
What did you successful FSX/SP2 users do to get the props whirling?
(Too bad I can't test it here on my own...)
Thanks in advance,
Markus.
Yep, The original alpha was almost pure white, I just changed it to 15,15,15 and the solid prop went away, Looks great now and I'm running Accel/SP2

[Berlopez]

Falcon409: Just did that and moved Miltons' panel.cfg into my Dash. Got the gauges again, I had managed to get rid of most of them,as I say above,to Milton. Luckily I saved that panel.cfg and put it back. It still has the aoaind and the Lear-45.Radio showing. I've searched everywhere for these two, panel.cfg,air.cfg FSX gauges folder, computer,.cab files and .gau files. All I know is when I use the overhead panel icon the aoaind shows again. The panel.cfg section of the overhead doesn't mention this gauge

[Berlopez]

I can't help but thinking maybe one of the old .cab or .gau files is still residing in my FSX gauges folder? I have in there too.


...While trying to figure this out I decided to play around with the Dash. I added the [camera definitions] of the default 737-800,under general, to make it more true FSX. It puts the cherry on the icing

[Milton Shupe]

You can remove from your general FSX/Gauges folder any .cab or file named:

ST_Dash
ST_Dash7
Annun
PST_hghb.altalert*****
ST_*******
D7_******
Dash******

This may help. Sorry that I can't be of more help without seeing the problem.
Screenshots would help.

Is this the only Dash 7 version you have installed in FSX?

[Berlopez]

Only found ST Dash.cab, removed it, went on to load the Dash again...But still the aoaind and Lear-45.Radio came up :isadizzy:

I have a Panel.cfg Build 14852

[Milton Shupe]

You should be using the panel.cfg I posted above. That's the one I am using here in FSX, the same I use in FS9.

From this point, simce I cannot experience the problem, you can isolate the problem by eliminating whole sections or groups of code in the panel.cfg.

Keep a copy of the panel.cfg aside.

Then remove window00, then window01, window02, vcockpit00, etc. one at a time until the problem goes away.

Now start with a fresh copy of the panel.cfg with all sections in place.

Once you determine what section it is in, then, eliminate half the gauges in that section and test. Keep eliminating half of the gauges until the problem goes away.

Now refresh that section and isolate the gauge.

Once you find that gauge, post the line out of the panel.cfg here.

Since we are both running FSX/SP2/ACCEL and you say you are running what I posted above ... I do not understand why we have different results.

[Berlopez]

Nor do I Milton, and again thanks for your help with this little annoying issue...Otherwise the dash flies wonderful.

I started my old compt. and checked my old Fs9 version of the Dash, I have in there only 2D panel.You say:You should be using the panel.cfg I posted above. That's the one I am using here in FSX, the same I use in FS9...(?)

I copied this panel.cfg to my FSX-SP2 ( I'm not running accel.) The gauges and others showed up again...So I resorted for my old .cfg which only has two offending gauges: aoaind and Lear-45.Radio. Searched again for them, came out empty.

[Berlopez]

Another thing I have notived strange of my Dash 7 installation is despite the fact that I accept the gauges in one plane ( I have three reapaints/textures) I have to load the gauges again when I change.This being a panel gauges issue...I don't see the connection, why the gauges show up again while loading another texture?

I have recently updated my Vista to SP2...I doubt this may have anything to do with it???

[Milton Shupe]

Please keep in mind that this aircraft is not built for FSX and was released for only FS9.

I am willing to help you but you must be willing to assist.

Earlier I asked you to do this:
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From this point, simce I cannot experience the problem, you can isolate the problem by eliminating whole sections or groups of code in the panel.cfg.

Keep a copy of the panel.cfg aside.

Then remove window00, then window01, window02, vcockpit00, etc. one at a time until the problem goes away.

Now start with a fresh copy of the panel.cfg with all sections in place.

Once you determine what section it is in, then, eliminate half the gauges in that section and test. Keep eliminating half of the gauges until the problem goes away.

Now refresh that section and isolate the gauge.

Once you find that gauge, post the line out of the panel.cfg here.
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I am in the process of trying to release another project but I am willing to help but you need to do the things I ask.

Thanks

[Berlopez]

Thanks Milton, Sorry to bother you with this,I'll get on with it this week ( Holiday here in DK). And will repport....

Thanks

[Milton Shupe]

Not a problem berlopez. I have zipped my Dash 7 from the FSX folder that works for me without issues, and uploaded the zip to my web site. I will give you the download link by PM.

EDIT: Well, I see that you do not accept PM's or Email so please PM or Email me for the link.

Thanks

[Berlopez]

Thanks MiltonHave just changed my PM settings ( hope I did it right) so...Looking very much forwards to the link.