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Henry
March 17th, 2006, 20:55
how do you start a new FD for a plane
do you take something similar
and tweak or start with an empty page,
myself the first
but i have found the original may have some or not
figures that are not correct and myself figured they should be
well:173go1: shows me for figuring,
obviously its easyer to correct something than create from scratch
but i have found that it is not the answer
because if someone else didnt do it corectly
that makes 2 of you:redf:
hmm live and learn
H

Wozza
March 17th, 2006, 22:20
Hi
I normally start with the templates in the fs9/aircraft folder and go from there
Wozza

sparks
March 17th, 2006, 23:02
For a completely new aircraft, I start with a clean spreadsheet and fill in the blanks. Just started a Cherokee Six this evening and it's already flying.

Wozza
March 17th, 2006, 23:25
For a completely new aircraft, I start with a clean spreadsheet and fill in the blanks. Just started a Cherokee Six this evening and it's already flying.
Ahhh man that sucks (in the nicest possible way :) )
Its takes me weeks to do what you can do in a night
Wozza

fliger747
March 17th, 2006, 23:37
If you have all of the data and research in one spot...

Jerry's Workbook is pretty fast. However ya still have to plow through all of the contact points and make those work.. and everything agree more or less between the air and cfg files. Being disorganized, it's my burden in this sort of deal. Being able to use something like Aircraft Container Manager helps a lot with the contact points.

Sometimes if I have an issue in flight charcteristics, I'll go peek at the workings in the appropriate area of an aircraft that does have acceptable performance in that area. A crutch for those of us with (1) short memories (2) don't understand ALL of the acronyms.

fly...fly...fly. For me there is still a lot of experimentation.

Tom....

Henry
March 18th, 2006, 11:59
one of the problems i have found personally is finding all
the figures i can normaly find wingspan rate of climb horsepower etc
but it is real hard to find everything
most of the research i do is online
and often i find conflicting figures
H

sparks
March 18th, 2006, 13:02
There tends to be a lot of good sources for modern GA and commercial aircraft. I found everything I needed for the Cherokee on the AOPA's members website on just a few pages. Elevon is a pretty good source for USAAF warbirds, but spotty on foreigh and USN contemporaries. Try this link for data sheets on a lot of USN aircraft:

http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org4-8.htm

Don't let a few missing data bits become a total roadblock. If all else fails, make an educated guess for anything you're missing. It only takes a few seconds to come back later and correct a few things.

That's the real advantage of tools like the workbook. You can fix things as you go, and it does the work of correcting everything else that's affected by what you changed.

fliger747
March 18th, 2006, 13:21
Jerry:

Thanks for sharing the link!

T.

Henry
March 18th, 2006, 14:45
thanks
thats the stuff i need:applause:
H

Tuor2112
March 18th, 2006, 21:26
Hello all

In the flight_tuning section what are the maximum and minimum values?How do they relate to 1.0 and do minus numbers have an effect .

Cheers James

Bradburger
March 19th, 2006, 12:11
For a completely new aircraft, I start with a clean spreadsheet and fill in the blanks. Just started a Cherokee Six this evening and it's already flying.

Me too.

First up though, I make a copy of the aircraft.cfg of the aircraft I'm working on, then open this up in ACM and sort out the contact points, pilot crew postions, tail & fin distance etc, to match & line up correctly with the visual MDL and basically everything important lines up and is correctly positioned for that particular MDL.

I also do anything else cfg related that ACM can do, such as the eletrical system and FF paremeters. Once this has been done, I rename it Aircraft ACM.cfg and can use it later if required.

I then import the former settings in to the FDWB (the contact points can be done with the click of a button) and then go from there.

If I'm using Air Wrench, I'll do the first step as descibed and then play around with all the important stuff like weight, climb rates, engine power etc.

One thing I love about these tools is just how quickly you can knock up an FM, even if you don't have all the nessecary data. :)

As Jerry says, it's very easy to come back later and fix & correct if wrong. :d

Cheers

Paul