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glennc
April 25th, 2009, 11:01
Downloading now - first flight soonest

http://www.realairsimulations.com/home.php?page=home

Glenn

6297J
April 25th, 2009, 12:05
You've just given me the biggest shock I've had since I peed on that electric fence on my Uncles farm when I was eight :isadizzy:

I thought it would be months before this would be out!

glennc
April 25th, 2009, 12:14
97J,

Roger that. First flight is in the can. I usually don't start seeing things until the second or third flight. All I can say for now is - You're going to love this machine. Real Air has outdone themselves.

Sierra Hotel.:applause::engel016: :medals:

Glenn

6297J
April 25th, 2009, 12:30
97J,

Roger that. First flight is in the can. I usually don't start seeing things until the second or third flight. All I can say for now is - You're going to love this machine. Real Air has outdone themselves.

Sierra Hotel.:applause::engel016: :medals:

Glenn


How about these new stereo sounds mentioned in the manual - did you notice them?

JIMJAM
April 25th, 2009, 12:41
No surprises here.
Its just as you would expect. I have a mid range dual core setup and tweeked as such. First thing I noticed was the sounds. VERY well done. Interior is crisp and clean. I have thousands of hours in real world mid to heavy twins and have not had time to evaluate the flight model. I am really not into not nit picking anyways as FUN and a brief suspension of reality is all I am after. I just did a short flight with a few touch and goes. Plane is very easy to fly. Almost to easy especially when you have been flying the A2A warbirds. Performance again on my mid range system running a VERY high rez is good. Very good considering the graphics. I have a few bare bones freewares that suck up the fps so the coding done on the Duke must be top notch.
Only gripe and it might be my setup but the gps and other readouts are blurred and I must zoom in to read them.The 2nd pic below next post is how mine looks at 1920x1080
Again no surprise its a well done,nice looking,performance friendly plane.

ryanbatc
April 25th, 2009, 12:42
Beautiful! A little bit harder on the FPS than their last one (spit and Scout pack), but there's just more gauges and stuff. You can choose VC reflections on/off - I will get back to you on the sound, heres some pics

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr004-17.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr001-24.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr002-23.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/ryanbatc/fsscr000-28.jpg

glennc
April 25th, 2009, 12:47
I do have one squawk but it may be covered in the manual I haven't read yet. The individual power levers are not individually selectable. The tool tips identify left and right, but moving one (mixture, prop or throttle), moves both. If anyone planning single engine ops, it may be difficult.

Later: Now I've read the manual - right drag to move one side or the other.

Oh, yeah - the sounds are wonderful. I'll let the screen shots above speak for themselves. My first landing was to a full stall, horn going off at the right time. Perfect.

Glenn

StickMan
April 25th, 2009, 13:16
Lovely plane just downloaded. Screens From First Flight.
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq210/StickMan2385/2009-4-25_16-18-56-203.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq210/StickMan2385/2009-4-25_16-25-33-839.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq210/StickMan2385/2009-4-25_16-27-22-653.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq210/StickMan2385/2009-4-25_16-41-10-555.jpg

She Is A MUST Have!

Gdavis101
April 25th, 2009, 13:20
I am counting the minutes here at work! Looks awesome!

Ark
April 25th, 2009, 13:24
I always the thought the Duke looked like it was going 200 kts just sitting there.

Great looking add-on! Just purchased my copy, can't wait to take her up. All I need is my little 11 month old co-pilot. When nap time is over, we will go flying together. :applause:

Cirrus N210MS
April 25th, 2009, 13:33
just got mine! about to go fly her in a few min:ernae:

bkeske
April 25th, 2009, 13:39
97J,

Roger that. First flight is in the can. I usually don't start seeing things until the second or third flight. All I can say for now is - You're going to love this machine. Real Air has outdone themselves.

Sierra Hotel.:applause::engel016: :medals:

Glenn

Got it and installed....unfortunately this Browns fan has to watch the draft...will be taking it up later this evening.

Thanks Glenn.

gajit
April 25th, 2009, 13:39
:jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:

ryanbatc
April 25th, 2009, 13:43
Football or Flying?

Easy choice :running:

bkeske
April 25th, 2009, 13:47
You just don't know what being a Browns fan means :monkies:

Cirrus N210MS
April 25th, 2009, 14:02
nice i just did my first landing using mouse only!!

FAC257
April 25th, 2009, 14:14
A few from the first flight.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4609/fsscr010.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7789/fsscr011v.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6233/fsscr012.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3771/fsscr013l.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8238/fsscr014d.jpg

Wow, wow, wow !!!! :)

I was a little concerned as I taxied towards take-off that the engines sounded a little wimpy. Well, that went away real quick when I advanced the throttles and the engine sounds came alive. Think I rattled the front windows a bit. :)

A small HU for anyone not using an external logbook editor. She logs flight hours as an "Amphibian" like A2A/Shockwave aircraft do. But it also means safely ditching the aircraft is allowed.

FAC

Chuck_Jodry-VJPL
April 25th, 2009, 14:22
Congrats Rob , hope it does well for you and the team , i am sure it flies like a dream !

Cirrus N210MS
April 25th, 2009, 15:00
well i did my first flight in the duke to my grandpa old ranch sandy valley nv WAS A NICE flight

bkeske
April 25th, 2009, 15:01
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She logs flight hours as an "Amphibian" like A2A/Shockwave aircraft do. But it also means safely ditching the aircraft is allowed.

FAC

You can fix that.

Go into the aircraft.cfg and go down to the 'contact points'



//----------------------------- gear up crash points------------------------------------------------

The defaults are :

///point.9= 4.000, -8.600, -3.0, -2.00, 15000.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.00, 0.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000 //5
///point.10=4.000, -4.000, 0.0, -1.70, 15000.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.00, 0.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000 //6
///point.11=4.000, -8.600, 3.0, -2.00, 15000.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.00, 0.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000 //5

Change to:

point.9= 2.000, -8.600, -3.0, -2.00, 15000.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.00, 0.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000 //5
point.10=2.000, -4.000, 0.0, -1.70, 15000.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.00, 0.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000 //6
point.11=2.000, -8.600, 3.0, -2.00, 15000.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.00, 0.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000 //5

Now it will be recorded a 'Plane'

Further info:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc526949.aspx#mozTocId836373

gajit
April 25th, 2009, 15:05
Well done Realair :applause::applause::applause: Its everybit as good as anticipated. It has now my favourite twin in the hangar. :jump::jump::jump:

glennc
April 25th, 2009, 15:08
It'll be fun to see how long this thread runs. :wavey:

Glenn

pbearsailor
April 25th, 2009, 16:34
This is the best job of replicating engine out performance I've seen in flight sim. Pulling the levers with right mouse button drag is so intuitive and seems really natural. SE performance is lousy, just as it should be on a Duke. Really like the mouse drag for setting radios and HSI knobs too. :applause:

The Duke is right there with Digital's Cheyenne for me and I'm naturally biased towards the PT6 engines on the Cheyenne, but this is really well done.

Company I was flying for acquired a smaller outfit that had a Duke and all of us in the flight department were very happy that acquisition DIDN'T include the Duke. Didn't feel like we were nearly as safe in it as we were in our King Airs. Sure don't mind flying this one in FSX, though. Great job Real Air. :ernae:

cheers,
steve :wavey:

Cirrus N210MS
April 25th, 2009, 17:52
very sweet airplane for sure http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4554/duken210ms.jpg

bkeske
April 25th, 2009, 20:47
A nice 2.8 hour flight from KRDU to KSWF (Stewert Intl). Beautiful aircraft, but I was expecting no less.

Enough time to check everything out while in cruise mode, but more to learn, like the cabin pressure...thought I had it correct before take-off, but my cabin pressure was at 3,400 at 15,000. Flew 'by the numbers' provided in the doc's, and hand flying the approach was smooth as silk. Rob is a magician with his models. Incredible how quiet everything gets once you get to cruise.

A bunch more frame rate hungry than most all the RealAir offerings, but again, smooth as silk. I simply shut the FR display off and enjoyed the ride. It really does not matter.

I believe I better plan an extended trip with this baby...and read the doc's more fully before the next flight :mixedsmi:

What can you say....worth the wait...:wiggle:

gajit
April 25th, 2009, 22:44
The Duke is right there with Digital's Cheyenne for me and I'm naturally biased towards the PT6 engines on the Cheyenne, but this is really well done.
steve :wavey:

I agree Steve - the more you fly the Duke the more you apprechiate it comapred to the D Cheyenne :jump:

shackleton_boy
April 26th, 2009, 03:40
How long did you guys wait for your download email? i've been waiting 30 mins now and nothing from Swreg

gajit
April 26th, 2009, 03:43
How long did you guys wait for your download email? i've been waiting 30 mins now and nothing from Swreg

Yesterday mine was almost instantatious

shackleton_boy
April 26th, 2009, 03:44
oh right - still waiting :(

gajit
April 26th, 2009, 03:45
oh right - still waiting :(

I simpathise - I hate that when it happens.

shackleton_boy
April 26th, 2009, 03:47
thanks man :sleep: i really wanted to play with it before i leave for NL

shackleton_boy
April 26th, 2009, 05:40
WoW WoW Wow!!!!!!!!

this is SO cool! loving it guys! eventually had to go buy it in SimMarket

wombat666
April 26th, 2009, 07:22
nice i just did my first landing using mouse only!!

Mickey or Minnie ......:mixedsmi:

Panther_99FS
April 26th, 2009, 07:49
Looks quite impressive!

Cirrus N210MS
April 26th, 2009, 10:55
skin downloads!!!

http://sites.google.com/site/n210msrealair/Home

shackleton_boy
April 26th, 2009, 11:27
I must say i love this aircraft! Its so well done i might just fly an online rally in it end of May.

I have to add to that the customer support from Rob was amazing! the moment he saw in this thread i am having problems with swreg he sent me a mail and started helping me. AMAZING customer support - thanks Rob! :medals::icon29:

lawdawg
April 26th, 2009, 13:57
Very nice aircraft. Flies like a dream.
Thank you Rob and team for this.

Nick C
April 26th, 2009, 14:52
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Well I really should be tucked up in bed right now, but I just had to stay up long enough for a quick spin. What an aircraft, it looks like Rob and Sean have come up trumps again. :applause:
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http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk/images/ras/duke/ras_duke_01.jpg
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Cirrus N210MS
April 26th, 2009, 16:29
just one sweet plane!


http://sites.google.com/site/n210msrealair/_/rsrc/1240791837043/Home/Realair%20Duke.jpg

jetstreamsky
April 26th, 2009, 18:48
Well I almost resisted this one as the DA Cheyenne eats too many frames for my old single core PC, but I'm VERY happy to say the RealAir Duke flies beautifully and doesn't give me any frame rate problems at all, amazing.

:guinness: cheers :medals:

euroastar350
April 26th, 2009, 18:56
Airplane looks good, will have to pick up this package when i get the chance.

spotlope
April 27th, 2009, 07:42
I had a quick flight last night that turned into a longer one. This is a NICE bit of work, this Duke. One thing I've noticed about sim aircraft is that sound is more important than I usually think, being a visual guy by nature. The Duke's sound set goes a long way towards closing the believability gap and letting you fool yourself into thinking you're flying a real plane. Doesn't hurt to have stunning modeling and great flight dynamics, either. :applause::applause::applause:

StickMan
April 27th, 2009, 12:59
Had to make a video hope you like it guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RcrPKMajqk

6297J
April 27th, 2009, 13:06
Had to make a video hope you like it guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RcrPKMajqk

Very nice video - (would be even nicer to have heard a bit more of the engine sounds though :engel016:)

StickMan
April 27th, 2009, 13:09
Very nice video - (would be even nicer to have heard a bit more of the engine sounds though :engel016:)

Agree, still working on mixing FSX sound with music. Plus this was only two hours of work. Glad you liked.

6297J
April 27th, 2009, 13:30
Agree, still working on mixing FSX sound with music. Plus this was only two hours of work. Glad you liked.

It is a good video and I have been longing to see one as I won't be able to buy this for a while but I've heard so much about the great sound it has that I have been longing to hear one too!

StickMan
April 27th, 2009, 13:34
It is a good video and I have been longing to see one as I won't be able to buy this for a while but I've heard so much about the great sound it has that I have been longing to hear one too!
I Have the next best thing then I guess as to what you are looking for besides the plane itself, a video with a few landings, all sound even a stall horn or two flaring right before touchdown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JxG5Xkq-Tk

ryanbatc
April 27th, 2009, 14:25
Had to make a video hope you like it guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RcrPKMajqk

Pretty nice, would be better if the angles weren't so stretched out, especially on takeoff, just my opinion though

gajit
April 27th, 2009, 14:30
I really, honestly hate to say this but................ having flown the Duke for a good 10 hours I think that the Digital Cheyenne is actually the better product. It just has more to it. More versions, better night instrumentation and effects, for me better FPS and even has parked bonuses like cones and tow bars. And some excellent external night lighting.

Please dont get me wrong - the Duke is excellent but hopping back into the Cheyenne was a real treat.

I am hopeing that this gets even more competitive with the inbound carenado Seneca II

I cant do screen comparisons as the site is preventing my uploads.

pbearsailor
April 27th, 2009, 15:36
I really, honestly hate to say this but................ having flown the Duke for a good 10 hours I think that the Digital Cheyenne is actually the better product. It just has more to it. More versions, better night instrumentation and effects, for me better FPS and even has parked bonuses like cones and tow bars. And some excellent external night lighting.

Please dont get me wrong - the Duke is excellent but hopping back into the Cheyenne was a real treat.

I am hopeing that this gets even more competitive with the inbound carenado Seneca II

I cant do screen comparisons as the site is preventing my uploads.

Yeah, like I said before, they're pretty close for me. But, saying the Duke is about as good as the Cheyenne is not knocking the Duke at all. I still think the Cheyenne is one of the really good ones. The Duke is too. Really like Rob's flight model and the single engine stuff is really well done: you'd better do it right or you won't make it. Funny that both of them get criticism for their respective GPS units, but I really don't care in either case as I'm usually navigating with VOR. GPS is silly newfangled stuff anyway. :isadizzy:

cheers,
steve :)

JIMJAM
April 27th, 2009, 15:37
Not bad STICKMAN.
Now lets see ya land at Lukla with a 50% fuel load,4 passengers and,uummm,say 400 pounds in luggage. Ok, 300 pounds.

Wing Nut
April 27th, 2009, 15:46
In my opinion the ES "Twinkie" gives the Duke a run for the money. I might even be leaning a bit toward the Twinkie.

Anyway the Duke is one sweet package.

mike678
April 27th, 2009, 17:32
I had very high expectations and wasn't disappointed. I've purchased every RealAir product going back to the Fly! days and they just keep getting better and better. Unfortunately I won't have much time to explore all the features until next week, but I really enjoyed a half hour flight around the Caribbean.

Congrats to Rob & Sean on another winner.

6297J
April 27th, 2009, 22:38
I Have the next best thing then I guess as to what you are looking for besides the plane itself, a video with a few landings, all sound even a stall horn or two flaring right before touchdown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JxG5Xkq-Tk

Thanks! That one gives me a much better idea :applause:

BananaBob
May 1st, 2009, 17:18
I'm simple minded so I love the plane. I've used my own global texture though. :ernae:

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7702/2009511510455462.jpg

spotlope
May 1st, 2009, 17:24
Two words come to mind: freaking. gorgeous.

:applause:

Akatsuki
May 1st, 2009, 17:58
Wow, now that's a great screenshot we got there! Well done Bob.:applause::applause::applause:

Here's one from me, no as good as Bob screenshot tho...

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Josquin-d/JosPic-020.jpg

ryanbatc
May 1st, 2009, 19:41
I'm simple minded so I love the plane. I've used my own global texture though. :ernae:

Care to share that texture? The bare metal paint is also my favorite!

BananaBob
May 1st, 2009, 21:36
Care to share that texture? The bare metal paint is also my favorite!


Sure thing bro, just uploaded it to Avsim, don't know when it will show, hopefully it will do well, should have released it sooner, thanks for reminding me. I think people will like it, just remember, some planes like the Duke, you just can't replace the textures in the main Texture folder, you have to put them inside the individual texture paint folders and overwrite the one in there, which is the Chrome one, btw.

Beautiful shot too Josquin!

:icon29::guinness::icon29:
All around!


Couple More of the VC, impecable as usual.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1310/vcdk1.jpg

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/5898/vcdk2.jpg

BananaBob
May 1st, 2009, 21:42
Two words come to mind: freaking. gorgeous.

:applause:

Bill, your sceneries are my favorite spots for pics, just brilliant work sir! As real as it gets, comes to mind. :ernae: Thanks.

6297J
May 2nd, 2009, 02:52
That Chrome looks awesome!

Just looked - it's not up yet :frown:

BananaBob
May 2nd, 2009, 03:09
That Chrome looks awesome!

Just looked - it's not up yet :frown:

I'm gonna try this, it's my own space at mslive, see if you can download it from here. http://cid-5ffab2d3eb4ba77f.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/GlobalEnv%7C_Texturesv1.zip

6297J
May 2nd, 2009, 03:13
I'm gonna try this, it's my own space at mslive, see if you can download it from here. http://cid-5ffab2d3eb4ba77f.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/GlobalEnv%7C_Texturesv1.zip


Worked perfectly! Thanks Bob :)

6297J
May 2nd, 2009, 04:04
.............................. and what a difference! :applause:

BananaBob
May 2nd, 2009, 13:32
.............................. and what a difference! :applause:

Good, now I know it's not only me, LOL. Avsim must not be accepting my uploads for some reason, never had problems before.

6297J
May 2nd, 2009, 13:36
Avsim has been down for me all day anyway.

hinch
May 2nd, 2009, 17:09
I've added the chrome texture there to the Real Air SF260 silver livery and it really makes the bump mapping pop out on the wings, it looks very cool.

bkeske
May 2nd, 2009, 19:15
I'm gonna try this, it's my own space at mslive, see if you can download it from here. http://cid-5ffab2d3eb4ba77f.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/GlobalEnv%7C_Texturesv1.zip

Wow Bob, I gotta tell'ya, I'm not typically a fan of most of these bare metal textures as they are done so poorly many times, but this addition to the....well....non-paint scheme....is really well done. I will definitely take this puppy for a ride....or two...or three.

I only put this in this particular texture folder, but I may have to try it in some of my DC-3/2 textures. In addition to the RA Spit.

Thanks.

....oh, and after a few flights in the Duke...man, this is one really nice aircraft, and a real joy to land...by hand....One of my favorites in my hanger, and probably will be for a long time.

BananaBob
May 3rd, 2009, 04:10
Wow Bob, I gotta tell'ya, I'm not typically a fan of most of these bare metal textures as they are done so poorly many times, but this addition to the....well....non-paint scheme....is really well done. I will definitely take this puppy for a ride....or two...or three.

I only put this in this particular texture folder, but I may have to try it in some of my DC-3/2 textures. In addition to the RA Spit.

Thanks.

....oh, and after a few flights in the Duke...man, this is one really nice aircraft, and a real joy to land...by hand....One of my favorites in my hanger, and probably will be for a long time.

Yep, I've tried many different ways but this one was my all around fav and especailly liked it on the bare metal spitfire from RealAir also in FSX and the glass textures of like the default Bell 206, the clouds in the sky often match the way I set up the clouds in the textures also, making the reflections just a little more realistic.

gajit
May 4th, 2009, 01:30
I have only worked on the landing and taxi lights - this is the best I have got at the moment.


Put this in the panel config in the [VCockpit01]
gauge13=shockwave_lights!SW Lights_gear, 1,1,1,1 //shockwave light

Put these in your Aircraft config - add after/below the existing in the [LIGHTS]
light.10 = 5, 2.50, -0.5, -2.0, Fx_shockwave_landing_light // Shockwave light
light.11 = 5, -6.4, 4.8, -1.5, Fx_shockwave_landing_light // Shockwave light
light.12 = 5, -6.4, -4.8, -1.5, Fx_shockwave_landing_light // Shockwave light

This is Ok but someone might be able to work out why in some angles you dont see all the lights - I tried other lights as options but they did not appear at all.

To make the front light go off when the gear is retracted i had to call it a Landing - not a taxi light.

Cheers

Nick C
May 4th, 2009, 01:51
Bob, any chance you can email me the file? I'd love to take a look but this is the second day I've not been able to log onto the Avsim file library.

Edit: Sorry, just seen the link!

BananaBob
May 4th, 2009, 03:00
Bob, any chance you can email me the file? I'd love to take a look but this is the second day I've not been able to log onto the Avsim file library.

Edit: Sorry, just seen the link!

Yeah bro, avsim has been really messed up the last few days, make sure you post some of those great shots when you try that. :ernae: