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gera
February 27th, 2009, 07:59
Tibet is a wonderful country--or was, since it was "gobbled up by the Red Chinese" as you´ll know, many years ago....FSX has done a very poor job in that territory so I am making Lhasa and other Cities (some fictitious) in it. It is a huge country and the views are marvelous......The Scenery will cover small and large airfields I have placed in order to make this a good FSX flying experience.

"The Mission...."
40 Century Zebra films has been allowed by the Chinese Government (?) to make a documentary about Old Tibet. You have been hired as their pilot since you know the country well---you moved around the area working for some secret British outfit back in the 80´s (Good old 004.2)--. The group will start the trip in Bhutan where they landed just a week ago under dire atmospheric conditions. It has not been decided what aircraft will be used, but it has to take a lot of film equipment and people, so you are nosing around the old hangars in the hilly airport......
Episode 1----On toward Tibet "Land of Gods"..The filming starts in earnest!!

Episode2:....Unexpected Trouble!!!!! the film company has found a temple that had been lost for centuries by a scary mistake!!!!!..danger looms and the film expedition can easily be in front of their final take and Doom!!!!! the flight is now in total danger.....

In a Sim Near You....Soon!!!!:greenf:

harleyman
February 27th, 2009, 08:16
That is going to be fun...Many thanks Gera....:applause:

gera
February 27th, 2009, 08:22
That is going to be fun...Many thanks Gera....:applause:

You bet.....but since am making all those cities and airfields, it will take some time.......

harleyman
February 27th, 2009, 10:45
Keep us posted.. :applause:

gera
February 28th, 2009, 06:23
check LHASA capital of Tibet.....FSX just places a village there, no airport..Two or three more cities and then I start the Mission...

harleyman
February 28th, 2009, 06:27
:applause:

gera
March 2nd, 2009, 07:37
Hi everyone...

I have taken seriously the "Refurbishing" of Tibet in FSX now that I have finished Lhasa´s Gongar airport (ZULS) in the south west banks of the Yarlung Zongbo River, only 28 miles from the capital The airport is connected to the rest of China which includes cities such as Beijing, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Chongqing, Xian, Xining, Kunming, Diqing and Chamdo Region and an international route connects Katmandu Nepal ......that scenery is finished....I also finished Nyingchi Airport ( ZUNZ), which is located in the South East- It is suggested to be one of the most challenging instrument approaches in the world, since the airport is in a winding valley. There is a very interesting article how this airport will eventually be serviced by Satellite links to help with navigation entering and leaving the airport....In FSX, it will quite a challenge making your final approach and getting out of it!!!!!!...
Next will be Qamdo Bangda Airport (ZUBD), which has the honor of being the highest airport in the world, with an altitude of 4,334 metres (14,219 ft).Visitors are warned before landing to move slowly on leaving the plane and that they may feel light headed or dizzy because of the thin air. (This also happens in La Paz, Bolivia with its airport at 13,300 ft)....It was pretty hard to find the location (or nearby one) of this airport in FSX, but I think I nailed one....Once I finish with this, the Mission will start...

Finally I also made two "small rural" airstrips which will also test your nerves in this wonderful country. Since many do not like missions I will put out just the scenery for those who wish to fly in Tibet by themselves....

check this out...
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/aw092506p1.xml

gera
March 4th, 2009, 12:11
Ok...Pilotos!!!! the Mission is about to go up!!!!! planes have been tested in these high airports and the
crew has chosen the following....

The old FS9 Vanguard...from Classic British Files:
(DOWNLOAD:) VANGUARD.zip at:
http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=28&func=fileinfo&id=14
it flies very well in the thin air......and in FSX

And.........

Miles HP Reading Marathon Mk2 .
http://classicbritishfiles.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=28&func=fileinfo&id=523 or in AVSIM.com---m69.zip)----flies perfectly in FSX

Not Very Common Aircraft!!!!! but right for the Mission.......the latter one, the Miles, was an experimental plane
that made outstanding flights......and its just right for the "out in the boondocks" small airfields out there
in the plains and Mountains of Tibet.....

Hope to have the mission and scenery by next weekend...............so if you want some real --hard as nails
flights-- get these planes and practice some around Nepal in order to be "Fit" for what´s in store in--
Good old Tibet, Land of the Gods and a few Lamas....................:173go1:

Pips
March 4th, 2009, 12:27
Since many do not like missions I will put out just the scenery for those who wish to fly in Tibet by themselves....

Personally I prefer missions that are matched to scenery rather than just swanning about. Gives more purpose to the flight.

Really looking forward to this one Gera. :wiggle:

CrisGer
March 4th, 2009, 12:39
This looks wonderful, I found a Lhassa in an old scenery add on for one of the older FS versions but i think it only had the Potala, i hope you got that palace in your scenery, it is such a historic and fascinating structure. I really look forward to your work here , thanks for doing it. Namaste as they say over there.

gera
March 4th, 2009, 12:40
Personally I prefer missions that are matched to scenery rather than just swanning about. Gives more purpose to the flight.

Really looking forward to this one Gera. :wiggle:
Hi Pips....

Me too.....if you got a story to go with the flight is much more fun.....but then again, with this one you´ll get airports to go fly by yourself anytime you like in Tibet, which is totally bare in FSX.........send feedback after you fly the Mission!!....:wave::wave:

gera
March 4th, 2009, 12:43
This looks wonderful, I found a Lhassa in an old scenery add on for one of the older FS versions but i think it only had the Potala, i hope you got that palace in your scenery, it is such a historic and fascinating structure. I really look forward to your work here , thanks for doing it. Namaste as they say over there.

You will find my "version"of the great Palace in Lhasa.....and others around the country..:kilroy:

gera
March 4th, 2009, 20:26
Some airports you will find in Tibet...

crashaz
March 4th, 2009, 22:00
WoW! Nice! Gonna grab this!

CrisGer
March 5th, 2009, 00:44
wow, looks great!! thanks so much for doing all of this, !!

gera
March 5th, 2009, 06:00
Glad to see you guys like it.......two more landing areas and it will be ready to go, a very small airfield by a lake and a "road" used as landing area for a small town. This "country" is really beautiful and the mountain area is huge!!!!, I might just have a second edition coming along later on.....back to work.:rapture:

GT182
March 5th, 2009, 07:01
Ahhhh Grasshopper, the land that time forgot is not forgotten after all.

Looks great Gera. :applause: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/GT182/Thumbup.gif

EgoR64
March 5th, 2009, 07:53
:wavey:

Hi Gere,

Looks like some good flying Fun !!

Thanks for your Mission !! :friday:

Many Cheers !!

foreigndevil
March 5th, 2009, 09:00
Looking good!:applause:
Just a small historical correction: Tibet was not "gobbled up by the Red Chinese". It's been part of the Chinese Empire since the Yuan (Mongol) Dynasty, more than 700 years ago! Leave the re-writing of history to the politicians!

gera
March 5th, 2009, 10:26
Looking good!:applause:
Just a small historical correction: Tibet was not "gobbled up by the Red Chinese". It's been part of the Chinese Empire since the Yuan (Mongol) Dynasty, more than 700 years ago! Leave the re-writing of history to the politicians!


Tell that to the Dai Lama!!!!!.....but I guess their liberty is of no interest to many hu????....

"2008 Tibetan Protests against the Chinese powerholders -- initiated by Buddhist monks -- flared up again in 2008. The Chinese government reacted strongly, imposing curfews and strictly limiting access to Tibetan areas. The international response was likewise immediate and robust, with a number of leaders condemning the crackdown and large protests (including some in support of China's actions) in many major cities............Nice Chinese!!!!----The protest of people "gobbled up by sadistic Communist regimes" will go on and on and on until they are free...................am no politician amigo, but the Tibetans are as free today--- as Yaks in a zoo!!!!----:focus:

foreigndevil
March 5th, 2009, 23:36
Tell that to the Dai Lama!!!!!.....but I guess their liberty is of no interest to many hu????....

"2008 Tibetan Protests against the Chinese powerholders -- initiated by Buddhist monks -- flared up again in 2008. The Chinese government reacted strongly, imposing curfews and strictly limiting access to Tibetan areas. The international response was likewise immediate and robust, with a number of leaders condemning the crackdown and large protests (including some in support of China's actions) in many major cities............Nice Chinese!!!!----The protest of people "gobbled up by sadistic Communist regimes" will go on and on and on until they are free...................am no politician amigo, but the Tibetans are as free today--- as Yaks in a zoo!!!!----:focus:
It's clear you never met Tibetans in China (I did) and only listen
to the Dalai Lama's propaganda talks, but this is not a history forum nor a political one, so, let's leave it there.:focus:

gera
March 6th, 2009, 04:51
It's clear you never met Tibetans in China (I did) and only listen
to the Dalai Lama's propaganda talks, but this is not a history forum nor a political one, so, let's leave it there.:focus:

:amen::amen::amen:

foreigndevil
March 6th, 2009, 07:06
And your scenery does look very promising!:ernae:

gera
March 7th, 2009, 08:58
A little update.................

Lasha's Airport --ZULZ-- and the Great Temple...........

harleyman
March 7th, 2009, 17:47
That is looking fantastic Gera...Nice work.....:applause:

gera
March 7th, 2009, 21:46
That is looking fantastic Gera...Nice work.....:applause:


Molto Grazie Amico..................:jump:

CrisGer
March 8th, 2009, 00:12
Just a small historical correction: Tibet was not "gobbled up by the Red Chinese". It's been part of the Chinese Empire since the Yuan (Mongol) Dynasty, more than 700 years ago! Leave the re-writing of history to the politicians!


No it was not part of China.true it was attacked by the Mongol invaders who also invaded and conqured China until it too was liberated.....Tibet was a unique area with its own historic culture, unqiue language and unique blend of orginal Budhism which flourished for thousands of years. Actually the historic land of Tibet was several cultures, including Ghorm and some smaller kingdons...but largely it was a pair of independent kingdoms of its own origin. Modern China has NO cliam to the independent Kingdom of Tibet or any claim to sovereignty over it or the Dalai Lama. This has been one of the great tragedies of modern times and I pray for liberation of these fine people and their wonderful leader who i venerate greatly. Lies are lies spoken in political motivation or not. Tibet and will always be free, even if enslaved and exploited now for its mineral resources and for political reasons that are created not historic.

China invaded and murdered thousands of innocent and peaceful monks who had not lifted a finger against the invaders, they burned monastaries that were thousands of years old, and destoryed countless irreplaceable doccuments and religious artifacts because they feared and loathed the spiritual path of the Tibetans and still do. They murdered and imprisoned hundreds again last year and few spoke out against it and now that there is an international economic meltdown, the west has no courage to support Tibet in exile. My family fought for freedom here in the US for generations, both in military service and in government and for the very same principles that the Tibetan People have been fighting since their country was invaded by the Chinese. I have the greatest respect for China and its great and historic culture but it has no right to invade and exploit a free people and to try to submerge it in a wave of forced immigration, roads, railways, and modern industry that Tibet, which is a fragile and unique eco system, cannot support and does not want. Eventually i hope that the chinese invaders are thown out and all vestiges of the "modern" implanted culture are destoryed and removed. Until then, I am sorry to see people here who do not stand up for freedom that our own country is built upon. Technology including airports and planes is not a souless apolitical tool for use by anyone who has the funds for it, and I for one have no wish to use a add on made by anyone who will not stand up for freedom and truth.

China did suffer what is known as the Century of Humiliation when parts of China were split off and taken by European powers, but that time is over. Tibet has unfortuantly become a symbol for modern China of that time, and a false history has been created that claims historical 'special relations" between the independent Kingdom of Tibet and China that were continued by the Republic of China and then by the Peoples Republic. This was not and is not true. Since the invasion in 1959, China has build roads, railroadds, airports and intrstructure that they claim is a major investment and gives them further claim, but these things do not serve the people of Tibet and their tradditional culture which is largely self sustaining and was developed over thousands of years to fit in with the high alpine and arid climate and the very slim natural resources of the region.

the current president of china was the Chairman of the chinese communist party at the time of the Tienamen Square uprising and there were also uprisings and revolts in Tibet that were harshly attacked and respressed and at least 5000 people were killed in Tibet but possibly many more. China has just issued a "White Paper" demanding that the Dalai Lama cease all activites and surrender all claims to autonomy, and give up any independence. This will never happen i hope, and is another example of a modern nation state exploiting and trying to dominate an indiegenous people for its own aims.

If you are interested in one of the most remarkable modern men, the Fourtheenthj Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso, winner of the 1989, Nobel Peace Prize, you can read a speech he gave to the United Nations and get a sense of his great humanity and intelligence and compassion....here:

http://www.cosmicharmony.com/Tibet/DalaiLama/DalaiLama.htm

I hope that people will realize that Tibet is not a Hollywood image or a rebellious and wayward provice as claimed by one of the most powerful modern nations that has no need of this small corner of the world...... Tibet is a unique and remarkable nation of its own long history and past, present and hopefuly future. I am hopeful that my sharing here will be allowed to remain, and that it is seen as a sincere sharing for truth. However, if my post is removed or edited, i will leave this forum, for i feel strongly that much of the history that we enjoy and study as part of flight and aviation has been dedicated to freedom and protecting the rights and freedoms of speech, culture and independence that Tibet symbolizes, and i could not read statments being made that were travesties of the historic truth claiming that Tibet is part of China and remain silent.

Namaste. In the end, Peace is stronger but for it, many have to suffer it seems.

gera
March 8th, 2009, 13:18
It's going to be fun flying in these mountains with so much history......Guaranteed......:focus::amen:

foreigndevil
March 10th, 2009, 02:31
No it was not part of China.true it was attacked by the Mongol invaders who also invaded and conqured China until it too was liberated.....Tibet was a unique area with its own historic culture, unqiue language and unique blend of orginal Budhism which flourished for thousands of years. Actually the historic land of Tibet was several cultures, including Ghorm and some smaller kingdons...but largely it was a pair of independent kingdoms of its own origin. Modern China has NO cliam to the independent Kingdom of Tibet or any claim to sovereignty over it or the Dalai Lama. This has been one of the great tragedies of modern times and I pray for liberation of these fine people and their wonderful leader who i venerate greatly. Lies are lies spoken in political motivation or not. Tibet and will always be free, even if enslaved and exploited now for its mineral resources and for political reasons that are created not historic.

China invaded and murdered thousands of innocent and peaceful monks who had not lifted a finger against the invaders, they burned monastaries that were thousands of years old, and destoryed countless irreplaceable doccuments and religious artifacts because they feared and loathed the spiritual path of the Tibetans and still do. They murdered and imprisoned hundreds again last year and few spoke out against it and now that there is an international economic meltdown, the west has no courage to support Tibet in exile. My family fought for freedom here in the US for generations, both in military service and in government and for the very same principles that the Tibetan People have been fighting since their country was invaded by the Chinese. I have the greatest respect for China and its great and historic culture but it has no right to invade and exploit a free people and to try to submerge it in a wave of forced immigration, roads, railways, and modern industry that Tibet, which is a fragile and unique eco system, cannot support and does not want. Eventually i hope that the chinese invaders are thown out and all vestiges of the "modern" implanted culture are destoryed and removed. Until then, I am sorry to see people here who do not stand up for freedom that our own country is built upon. Technology including airports and planes is not a souless apolitical tool for use by anyone who has the funds for it, and I for one have no wish to use a add on made by anyone who will not stand up for freedom and truth.

China did suffer what is known as the Century of Humiliation when parts of China were split off and taken by European powers, but that time is over. Tibet has unfortuantly become a symbol for modern China of that time, and a false history has been created that claims historical 'special relations" between the independent Kingdom of Tibet and China that were continued by the Republic of China and then by the Peoples Republic. This was not and is not true. Since the invasion in 1959, China has build roads, railroadds, airports and intrstructure that they claim is a major investment and gives them further claim, but these things do not serve the people of Tibet and their tradditional culture which is largely self sustaining and was developed over thousands of years to fit in with the high alpine and arid climate and the very slim natural resources of the region.

the current president of china was the Chairman of the chinese communist party at the time of the Tienamen Square uprising and there were also uprisings and revolts in Tibet that were harshly attacked and respressed and at least 5000 people were killed in Tibet but possibly many more. China has just issued a "White Paper" demanding that the Dalai Lama cease all activites and surrender all claims to autonomy, and give up any independence. This will never happen i hope, and is another example of a modern nation state exploiting and trying to dominate an indiegenous people for its own aims.

If you are interested in one of the most remarkable modern men, the Fourtheenthj Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso, winner of the 1989, Nobel Peace Prize, you can read a speech he gave to the United Nations and get a sense of his great humanity and intelligence and compassion....here:

http://www.cosmicharmony.com/Tibet/DalaiLama/DalaiLama.htm

I hope that people will realize that Tibet is not a Hollywood image or a rebellious and wayward provice as claimed by one of the most powerful modern nations that has no need of this small corner of the world...... Tibet is a unique and remarkable nation of its own long history and past, present and hopefuly future. I am hopeful that my sharing here will be allowed to remain, and that it is seen as a sincere sharing for truth. However, if my post is removed or edited, i will leave this forum, for i feel strongly that much of the history that we enjoy and study as part of flight and aviation has been dedicated to freedom and protecting the rights and freedoms of speech, culture and independence that Tibet symbolizes, and i could not read statments being made that were travesties of the historic truth claiming that Tibet is part of China and remain silent.

Namaste. In the end, Peace is stronger but for it, many have to suffer it seems.
You are re-writing history. I have a PhD in Oriental History and can assure you that what you are writing is a myth! But go tell "your side of the story" on a history/politics forum if you like. Let's enjoy Gera's scenery/adventures here and leave the other discussion aside.:amen:

kyulin
March 10th, 2009, 04:31
I agree, too. Let's enjoy Gera's wonderful piece and leave the political discussion aside.:amen:

gera
March 18th, 2009, 07:15
Hi Guys....

If everything goes as planned I will upload both the Mission and the Scenery on Friday night so you´ll can have a "Tibetan Weekend"...

I have added the Three Real airports of Tibet plus Four Fictional ones so you can go Mountain flying around the country in your VFR but potent aircraft.

This is a "high" country and most piston driven airplanes simple don´t "take off" due to the lack of oxygen so you must fly in at least a Turbo....

Lhasa Gonggar (ZULZ) is located more than 3500 metres above sea level, making it one of the highest airports in the world.
Nyingchi Airport(ZUNZ) is an airport in Nyingchi and it is suggested to be one of the most challenging instrument approaches in the world, since the airport is in a winding valley at an altitute of 3,836 metres.
Qamdo Bangda Airport ( ZUBD) located in Bangda, Qamdo, is the highest airport in the world, with an altitude of 4,334 metres (14,219 ft). At 5,500 m (18,045 ft), runway 14/32 is the longest publicly used runway in the world.
Some interesting data of this Land.
"Tibet occupies an area of around 1,000 by 2,500 kilometers, and has an average elevation of over 4,500 meters. Sometimes called "the roof of the world," it is the highest and biggest plateu, with an area of 2.5 million square kilometers ,about four times the size of Texas or France. Here Annual precipitation ranges from 100 mm to 300 mm and falls mainly as Hailstorms!!!
Permafrost occurs over extensive parts of the plateau. Proceeding to the north and northwest, the plateau becomes progressively higher, colder and drier, until reaching the remote Changtang region in the northwestern part of the plateau. Here the average altitude exceeds 5,000 meters (16,500 feet) and year-round temperatures average −4 °C, dipping to −40 °C in winter."

As you can see, Tibet is indeed a mysterious land which we FSX`ers must be in a position to fly too and explore......

Hope you have fun in Tibet!!!:faint: