MJ's C-47 Livery question.. [Archive]

heywooood

February 24th, 2019, 13:20

So I posted this in another thread but maybe the question needs one of its own..

I don't often ask for specific paints as they are usually easy to find (if they exist) or because they generally come available in their own time..however -

Is this scheme available for this model somewhere that I just haven't been able to spy, or can it be created by one of the artists here or there..?

https://i.imgur.com/Qs86I2D.jpg?1

heywooood

February 24th, 2019, 19:02

so with a little more digging I found this repaint for the 'awesome4sum' updated DC-3 files for the default aircraft.

https://i.imgur.com/jA0K2UI.png?1

it'll do for now - and maybe I could move Jan's updated VC over to this folder and be closer to where I want to be

heywooood

February 24th, 2019, 19:06

Bjoern, I tried your VC functionality upgrade with this model but I guess it only works with the original default DC-3 and not the modified one..?

mgr

February 25th, 2019, 02:15

Hi,

Found this one for the X-plane version of MJ's, could probally be converted back to FSX format:
https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/41124-western-dc-3-nc18801-aeroworx-c47-dc3/

Marcel

heywooood

February 25th, 2019, 05:20

Interesting...I have no idea how plausible or even possible it is to take a paint from a P3D object and ‘convert it’ to FSX. I appreciate your reply though - I like that Western livery also.
I’m sure that eventually there will be lots of airline repaints available for this model in BOTH flight sims. Finding the one I’m using on the modified default Dc-3 is good enough to hold me over for now.

Bjoern

February 25th, 2019, 05:47

Bjoern, I tried your VC functionality upgrade with this model but I guess it only works with the original default DC-3 and not the modified one..?

Yep.

The one for Jon's models is here: https://sites.google.com/site/fsxstuffbybk/aircraft/dc-3-enhanced

heywooood

February 25th, 2019, 07:00

oh I missed that! Thank you Bjoern - d/l'ing it now, can't wait to try it out

heywooood

February 25th, 2019, 10:50

ok - that works...

better functionality in the VC, better sound, lighting, actual rain on the windscreen while in the VC if the weather gets mushy - outstanding!
https://i.imgur.com/I1R6i05.png

https://i.imgur.com/9RXaiOw.png

You actually have to use the yaw trim now

gharper

February 25th, 2019, 12:31

I painted the WAL Awesum4sum DC-3 years ago and was thinking of repainting it for Manfred Jahn's model.

Gary

heywooood

February 25th, 2019, 14:06

You did it perfectly to my eye..I hope you will make a new one for the MJ Douglass!

gharper

February 25th, 2019, 16:57

Thank you. It was on my list so I'll get started.

Gary

Bjoern

February 26th, 2019, 07:46

ok - that works...

better functionality in the VC, better sound, lighting, actual rain on the windscreen while in the VC if the weather gets mushy - outstanding!

...

You actually have to use the yaw trim now

I'm prouder of the "under the hood" stuff, although I've never managed to complete it.

heywooood

February 26th, 2019, 17:53

it's definitely 'busier' in the cockpit now..which is closer to my understanding of actually flying this type.
I knew a feller who had spent a couple of lifetimes in the Dc-3...said that when it rained your lap would get soaked from all the water leaking in around the wind screen.
Also that when things got interesting in a Dc-3 they got really interesting in a hurry. The paint was worn off the hydraulic pump levers for a reason.

heywooood

February 26th, 2019, 19:25

Thank you. It was on my list so I'll get started.

Gary

This would be outstanding!
I am a bit chagrined that I didn't make a bigger deal about the quality of this repaint immediately in this thread. "It'll do for now" is an understatement as anyone can see who looks at the screenshot above.
You nailed it.

If anyone else wants to see for themselves - I found both the awesome4som files and this repaint at flyaway https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/18649/fsx-western-airlines-douglas-dc-3/
(https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/18649/fsx-western-airlines-douglas-dc-3/)

https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/18547/fsx-douglas-dc-3-awesome-4some/

heywooood

February 26th, 2019, 19:30

also - I can highly recommend Bjoerns .MDL and VC enhancements which he has already linked in this thread !

altogether these efforts make the default DC-3 astronomically better than it ever was - and it's worth having both versions on your HD (this and the MJ) for all kinds of reasons

heywooood

February 26th, 2019, 19:41

@Bjoern - I turn off the VC labels in FSX so figuring out cockpit controls is an adventure at times. I love that you have included the Douglas training manual in your reader files..

I had one kind of hilarious moment when I flipped on the throttle lock levers at cruise altitude thinking they were mislabeled carb heat controls..trying to make an approach with locked throttles in a driving rainstorm after sundown is probably best to try when sitting comfortably at your desk, at home

Bjoern

February 27th, 2019, 09:10

The manuals were immensely useful as a reference and to avoid having to write a manual myself. :mixed-smiley-010:

Sometimes I really regret not finishing it. But then again, I've got a civilian C-47 for X-Plane 11 that I can play with (not MJ's model though as it's still a very much military rendition).

heywooood

February 27th, 2019, 09:13

so I guess you've got some xplane'n to do then...

Bjoern

February 28th, 2019, 12:59

Well, I've sworn to strictly stay on the consumer side when I bought XP11, but lo and behold, I'm back to developing. :dizzy:

stansdds

March 1st, 2019, 01:42

Well, I've sworn to strictly stay on the consumer side when I bought XP11, but lo and behold, I'm back to developing. :dizzy:

So what you are saying is...

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/65418174/just-when-i-thought-i-was-outthey-pull-me-back-in.jpg

Bjoern

March 1st, 2019, 10:09

Nah, brought that onto myself.

heywooood

March 1st, 2019, 15:36

Nah, brought that onto myself.

what are you working on for Xplane? what's the project..

gaab

March 2nd, 2019, 07:00

May I ask a question corresponding to the initial topic subject ;)

It is the 100th birthday of BEA, and I would like to get a BEA livery for the MJ's C-47 -
So far, to my surprise, no such texture found on Internet.
Any suggestion where I should look...

I know that there is one for the MAAM-SIM R4D, but I have no idea if it could be adapted.

Sorry to disturb your conversation - thanks

Gérard

gharper

March 2nd, 2019, 07:47

About done.

Bjoern

March 2nd, 2019, 08:00

what are you working on for Xplane? what's the project..

Nothing that'd interest you.

heywooood

March 2nd, 2019, 12:33

About done.

gobsmacking gorgeous, Gary !

heywooood

March 2nd, 2019, 12:39

Nothing that'd interest you.

oh? that's a bit dismissive and condescending even for you..lol
but then the superiority complex on display in every last xplane forum I've seen just naturally lends itself to this kind of discourse.

I hope they can manage to appreciate your efforts in a manner fitting to your expectations, Bjoern.
us heathens will just continue to scrape by somehow

gharper

March 2nd, 2019, 18:10

At Flightsim.com search for beadc3.zipp

gaab

March 3rd, 2019, 00:01

At Flightsim.com search for beadc3.zipp

FS2004 BEA Douglas DC-3. Textures for the default DC3

Could it be adapted to the MJ's C-47 ?

gharper

March 3rd, 2019, 04:14

Now that Western is almost done. I'll paint BEA on MJ's DC-3.

Gary

heywooood

March 3rd, 2019, 09:27

I look forward to seeing any and all DC-3 airline liveries you care to create - thank you for your efforts, Gary

gaab

March 3rd, 2019, 13:14

Now that Western is almost done. I'll paint BEA on MJ's DC-3.

Gary

Wow !! - Thank you so much :)

Gérard

Bjoern

March 4th, 2019, 09:09

oh? that's a bit dismissive and condescending even for you..lol
but then the superiority complex on display in every last xplane forum I've seen just naturally lends itself to this kind of discourse.

I hope they can manage to appreciate your efforts in a manner fitting to your expectations, Bjoern.
us heathens will just continue to scrape by somehow

Sigh. The highest priority has a rewrite of my MITool in Lua for that bit of purpose in flying, then there's a univarsal Lua script to punish mishandling of engines, then there's Lua-based fixes for the C-47 I'm using (note a pattern there), an update to the default (Gateway) TXL scenery and tucked away in Blender is the L-39C awaiting a rebuild for XP11.
No rustbuckets, nothing revolutionary.
As good as the base sim is, the community (sometimes) tends to display unprecedented levels of idiocy and therefor, I'm not expecting much in terms of appreciation once I throw any of this out.

gaab

March 4th, 2019, 10:17

Now that Western is almost done. I'll paint BEA on MJ's DC-3.

Gary

Hi Garry,

Got your Western livery. Looks very nice :)

Thanks

Gérard

heywooood

March 4th, 2019, 10:35

Sigh. The highest priority has a rewrite of my MITool in Lua for that bit of purpose in flying, then there's a univarsal Lua script to punish mishandling of engines, then there's Lua-based fixes for the C-47 I'm using (note a pattern there), an update to the default (Gateway) TXL scenery and tucked away in Blender is the L-39C awaiting a rebuild for XP11.
No rustbuckets, nothing revolutionary.
As good as the base sim is, the community (sometimes) tends to display unprecedented levels of idiocy and therefor, I'm not expecting much in terms of appreciation once I throw any of this out.
Lol - poor guy.
one of the reaons I like to fly the old Aerosoft Hughes H-1 is that it has an engine management requirement, albeit basic AF - but it has one...not to mention the skill required to get it airborn and landed successfully, sans tomato crop.
sorry to hear that all flightsim communities were created so damned equal in both temperament and cognition. Ah well - most artisans and engineers are really in business for themselves anyways, proving to themselves whether or not they ‘can do’ this or that. If someone else manages to appreciate the work even partly it’s a bonus and not so much the goal. Or is that just me?

heywooood

March 4th, 2019, 19:28

I'm just d/ling it now..thank you for working it up, Gary - much appreciated

https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?searchid=69524091

Bjoern

March 5th, 2019, 12:17

Spot on. If not for intrinsic motivation, I wouldn't bother to spend a good part of my (unpaid) time on all that stuff. A bit of honest appreciation is okay, but popularity only builds idolization and expectation.

gharper

March 7th, 2019, 12:50

BEA DC-3 preview

simondix

March 7th, 2019, 13:11

Nice, I will look forward to its release.

heywooood

March 7th, 2019, 13:57

Nice, I will look forward to its release.

me too -

Gary's Western airlines livery sure looks terrific on the MJ Douglas

https://i.imgur.com/Xvn5X6L.png?1

gaab

March 8th, 2019, 00:23

Superbe !

Gérard

huub vink

March 8th, 2019, 00:31

Lovely repaints Gary :encouragement:. I particularly like the BEA livery. Most likely as it flew in my part of the world. Or perhaps because it reminds me to this aircraft....

http://classicwings.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/G-DAKK-1.jpg

This picture is actually the start of a quite sad story........

Cheers,
Huub

gharper

March 9th, 2019, 18:34

Good looking livery. Never heard of South Coast Airways.

simondix

March 10th, 2019, 00:00

Good looking livery. Never heard of South Coast Airways.

They went bust in 2002, Seemed to be a charter operation for the DC-3 only.

mgr

March 10th, 2019, 01:36

TiAr

March 10th, 2019, 15:54

Working on G-ANAF. This one is still in service out in Prestwick. In 1988 was purchased by Atlantic Air Transport and was being used for MoD contract work for Thales as a radar test bed and was later used for pollution control fitted with spray bars.

https://up.picr.de/35254351aj.jpg

Thomas